Is Andrew Yang fearmingering us on automation?

when more things are produced, prices fall, which allow anyone - whether they own industrial capital or not - to be wealthier by virtue of their purchasing power being greater than it otherwise would be with less productive output

it's coming and he's trying to get ahead before your parents and probably you ending up on the streets homeless and humiliated. UBI will also help stop immigration, legal and illegal.

And when the banks, once again collapse, something people don't seem to be paying any attention to, you'll already be bailed out , at least have a safety net this time.
You decide, plant apple trees or flowers in your neighborhood, volunteer coaching kids playing baseball, learn to play the piano or guitar or work at McDonalds flipping burgers?

Be a human being or stay a slave. which one?

Yes. To a large degree. And also how he plans to finance the UBI which in his own estimate would be 1.8 trillion annually. Is to carbon tax the shit out of the energy sector and industry in general for using fossile fuels. Care to think about what that will do for jobs in those sectors?
>but yang says he can pay for UBI through a vat tax.
Nope he´s gaslighting you it´s vat tax + a massive carbon tax. Here is his own policy paper admitting it.
yang2020.com/policies/carbon-fee-dividend/
>As President, I will…
>Propose a carbon fee and dividend systems that:
>Sets an initial carbon tax of $40/ton, which would increase in regular intervals
So he has no upper ceiling of how high this carbon tax should be. So he thinks he can just squeeze the living daylights out of industry and energy sector that way. For all the monies he requires for ubi and other things. With zero consequences.
>Use that tax to fund, after administrative fees:
>(50%) The Universal Basic Income
>(50%) Projects that are enhancing efficiency of fossil fuels or increasing availability of renewable resources
>Create a border carbon adjustment to protect American goods that would:
>charge a fee to imports from countries that don’t impose a similar carbon fee, or some type of carbon tax
>provide a rebate to exports to countries that don’t impose a similar carbon fee, or some type of carbon tax

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You're an idiot

All of his rhetoric is 100% kosher, when it's not kosher he apologizes and walks it back as this last week proves.

He looks like the perfect beta leader of all betas

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THIS

I'm actually gonna save this, thx

>so there is no way to distribute wealth without labor

That's not the problem. Labour is just too cheap.

that is not an argument. when we have UBI perhaps you can sign up for a course in logic, learn how to think rather than remain a greedy fucking boomer moron.

You have to understand all the 'free stuff' that bernie and others and people like yang promise you. It needs to be paid for through taxes. To get all those things you would have to pay 70% tax, for all including the highest income earners and it still probably won´t even be enough. This is why this charlatain the only way he can guarantee you 1000 dollars a month is with a literal fucking carbon tax on industry and energy sector! And get you to believe that it´s a low cost thing that people just don´t do right now because they are mean or something.
USA is 21 trillion in debt and has 1/3rd of pop on means tested government assistance. You can´t use debt to subsidize government spending anymore, been doing that for years in the USA. So there will essentially come a period where you have to increase gdp massively aswell as for maybe 10-15 years have to pay 60-70% tax. Just to reduce the deficit down to where you can use national debt again to subsidize some of the stuff. And take the weight off the taxpayers.
USA is running out of options that doesn´t include raising taxes massively in other words. Because too few in the US have paid enough taxes. Aswell as people have too small incomes and thus the tax revenue have become smaller. And employers have taken most of the wealth untaxed into their personal wealth. Another way out of it would be to go and tax all the super wealthiest total assets by 40% to recoup all the taxes they haven´t been paying for years. But you´ll still end up with paying like 50% tax rate for a decade just because of how much money USA has burned. If you want universal healthcare and universal education on top of it. it´s going to be more.
You need to understand that just taxing the wealthy is not going to be enough to cover it. Because there are so few of them. And giving tons of taxpayer money to several hundred million people is ridiculously expensive. Try to run the numbers.

be gone Euro white trash, you can't even vote in the US

yw
just 1000 dollars doesn´t sound like much, now realize it´s 325 million people that gets 1000 dollars a month. Is why to come up with that kind of money out of thin air he needs to literally fucking choke the energy sector and industry with taxation. Otherwise you can´t come up with the money without taxing all americans on their future income like 60-70% especially if you want universal healthcare and shit like that on top of it.
That you have a problem with the facts has nothing to do with me. I am quoting directly from his policy papers.

Yang is going to harness automation for all humanity, not just the billionaires.

Take the pink automation pill.

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aww looks like a Yang fag got triggered

>t.faggot

you're an idiot

regardless. learn to code or go into medicine.

>implying organized capital won't rig prices to engage in rent seeking

Whew.

VAT = Value Added TAX. robots are a value, they do the work of 2 to 5 men. Every man they replace their value is added to profits, but robots don't shop, human being buy products. You want to maintain a human slave economy rather than foster a smarter citizenry.

You also hate progress, you don't want indoor plumbing, modern tech, you would rather shit in a hole outside and wipe your ass with your hand.
You are either a slaver or the housenigger.

you need to remain an incel slave you're simply worthless.

you're an idiot

>as this last week proves.

Can you elaborate?

Bag status = Unsecure
Will you secure the bag? Y/N

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the incentives for price rigging is always for the parties to be the first ones to break with agreement
and unsurprisingly that's what we always witness happen

automation is comming here anyway, you can't stop progress, and replacing humans in meanial tasks is inevitable, just as replacing them in everything else is

My country has a VAT of 25% sales tax. we also are taxed around 50-60% and have a car tax of 180% to afford universal healthcare and universal education which is a fucking budget MAMMOTH when the system is in operation and the only way to run it without going bankrupt is through high taxes decent wages and extremely low unemployment. Is why it is often called a bumblebee model. Because people wonder. How the fuck can a bumblebee fly with all that weight and tiny wings. By flapping extremely fucking hard!

But that is not what we are talking about. You are not taxing automation. What yang is talking about is a fucking gigantic carbon tax on all energy and industry! Just to finance the fucking UBI! What will that do to jobs and energy prices btw.?
It´s also not going to be enough, you need far far more taxes like 60-70% on everyone especially on high income earners to even run these fucking systems you think you can afford with snap of a finger because morons like bernie and yang gaslight you about it.

we called your mother and let her know it's never too late to abort.

if you don't want $1000 a month give it to the Israelis kike

Yes. The level of automation he’s throwing out won’t happen for 15-25 years, so he’s actually accelerating the job losses by encouraging a faster push to automate. Only retards can’t see this.

Who doesn´t want 1000 dollars a month. Idiot. The question is where is it going to come from. Yang wants a carbon tax on energy and industry in general just to finance that fucking ubi. You have no idea the ramifications of that shit on those sectors.
it´s the thing about free stuff. it´s ALWAYS paid for by taxes somewhere. Or you can rake up your national debt to subsidize part of it and part tax money. problem with USA. you already maxed that out it´s 21 trillion now. You can´t really keep doing that anymore without raising the taxes through the fucking roof. Because your taxes have been so low for a long time as this was building up.
You simply cannot afford it you dipshit.

>MY FEELINGS DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR FACTS!
The post

Liberals need to create an imaginary crises to push their agenda.

>15-25 years
Are you in contact with companies in silicon valley or you pull that estimate from the air?

you mean, the machine where 6 people worked on and now nobody is working on but the guy who sits up on the balcony pressing buttons
>what changed? its a fucking mystery

you need more black migrants in the EU.

Yang's carbon tax is tossed back into converting to alt-energy, which is profiting people who collect and sell it back. It will also be used to CONTINUE to subsidize heat/electricity for the poor. which is ALREADY being done. UBI will end up saving money in this area because of the drop in subsidized legal and illegal immigration.

can't undocumented with a stolen Id fill out the opt in form?

you should mind your own business EURO trash

>so where is the 500$ rent three room in NY then

In some ways yes, I also think people without jobs will be slowly culled or sterilized

>I know nothing about technology
Automation is going to destroy not only blue collar factor and driving jobs but white collar office work, accounting, insurance and bank underwriting, call center work, the list goes on and on. This is coming whether you want it or not.

He is a hardcore socialist like any other insectoid

>you need more black migrants in the EU.
Look at this guy. So btfo.
>aww looks like a Yang fag got triggered
it´s funny because i literally post yangs policy page and quotes him how he plans to finance UBI. Through a massive fucking carbon tax. Just to be able to afford ubi. Which is a juggernaut of a pricetag on it obviously to give 1000 dollars a month to all americans. Or what he says is if they already recieve a subsidy say if they already get 700 in taxpayer, he make sure to add 300 on top of that so they get 1000 dollars each month guaranteed. No matter what. So he estimates in one of his interviews that it´s 1.8 trillion a year pricetag just for the ubi. he´s essentially using that 1000 dollars a month to buy fucking votes. And he gaslights them with that it´s the VAT that will pay for it. But his policy papers says very clearly it´s the massive carbon tax on industry and energy companies that will pay for it.
So he´s just spassing around angry that he might not get 1000 dollars a month. He seems rather unconcerned about that it will be accrued through massive taxation. Which is precisely how you fund everything with. And national debt can´t go much higher in USA it´s 21 trillion. US administrations have been raping the national debt for many years now. To avoid raising taxes massively. And now they are at point where they can´t do that anymore so there are 3 options.
a) increase taxes through roof to like 50-70% tax on all americans but especially on highest bracket of income earners.
b) go to highest wealth earners and take all their assets and tax all their assets in a 40% tax on all their personal wealth. to make up for the taxes they have been dodging for decades. Then you can lower tax on all americans to maybe 40-50%
Can´t use national debt to subsidize it´s already too high/basically maxed out, because of unwillingness to raise taxes for all these years.
if you want uni healthcare etc. taxes will have to be even higher!

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a particular productive process taking less human input for equal/more output means you have more of whatever it is that's being produced with less hands needing to be tied to that particular process

their time/energy/labor is freed up from one mode of production and are then able to be applied to other areas while maintaining the same or greater output

you're thinking when people become displaced from one mode of production (because they're no longer needed there to meet demand pressures) that they stay displaced forever, when that's not the case at all - the number of permanently unemployed people is vanishingly small, and has little to do with industries shifting (industries shift constantly, and have always done so for the whole history of industry)

>where is it going to come from.
Same place we paid for 2 wars, bank bailouts, and welfare programs.

here's a good audio senpai
youtube.com/watch?v=M60UVXlkbn8&feature=youtu.be&list=UUsgWR55UyAiFarZYl1u1l9Q

This pretty much sums Yang up, I really appreciate your responses

It's a serious issue that is only growing BUT his solution is incorrect.
> You have millions of whites(especially men) facing unemployment in the future and an inevitable conflict for survival.
Why intervene ? It is time for whites in this country to realize they are becoming the minority and they are the ones being treated unfairly and if they don't do something about it, they will slowly dwindle to nothing. Let the automation scare grow, only then can I have a hope for this country saving itself

So option c) in tandem with option a) and b) and raising gdp aswell as get as many as possible working. Is to introduce on top of it a massive carbon tax on everything to be able to afford the fucking spending. This is what yang is going to do. Taxing industry and energy will ofcourse cripple industry and increase energy costs for the end user. And possibly massive job loss aswell.
USA is not in a good situation.
The automation part is a tiny fucking thing in comparison to that. That he uses to justify the carbon tax.
>Automation is going to destroy not only blue collar factor and driving jobs but white collar office work, accounting, insurance and bank underwriting, call center work, the list goes on and on. This is coming whether you want it or not.
I know people in the industry with regards to the coming 5g and automation and stuff like that. You are fearmongering but there will be jobloss from it ofcourse. What you should focus on is government effort and private sector effort on retraining of these people to do other jobs! Not fucking introduce a carbon tax on all industry. And you should also raise taxes on everyone and including on the very wealthy. USA have simply gone a long time and paid very little taxes. And raised the US national debt. What you think you can afford, you can´t really afford. The money have to come through taxes or raising national debt to pay for it. You can´t raise national debt anymore. You need as many people working as humanly possible and high taxes on virtually everyone. If you want to even have a chance of being able to afford the things you think are so easy with snap of a finger.
You look at scandinavia and see universal healthcare. Forget to say how much taxes you need to pay to afford it, and how low unemployment + high taxes you need to have enough tax revenue to fucking pay for it!

>Same place we paid for 2 wars, bank bailouts, and welfare programs.
Yes, you maxed out your national debt and paid little taxes. No longer possible to do anymore.

I'd imagine not. I don't know exactly how the process would work though.

He says that he would be a bit stricter on immigration, but give current illegals an 18 year path to citizenship.

Thanks buddy.

>no, robots won't take all our jobs away.
Yes but most

>Is Andrew Yang fearmingering us on automation?
Of course he is fearmongering. That is all the Democratic Party Cult ever does. He's a member of the fear cult.

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We didn't maxed out. That's BS

UBI = Spiritual Slavery

If you want to be a domesticated cuck,
accept money from the government.

Baaa

you're lying. you're doing nothing, but projecting what's on Yang's campaign page. all you are doing is speculating in the negative cause you want Trump, that's your agenda here, fine EURO FAG, BUT you have NO say in the US Election. The bottom line is Trump sold out to Israel, kike, and /pol, nor pepe is KEKing back this time. Why don't you man-up, go stop the pakis and negros from raping your women selling your children, fuckingweekasscvck instead of concerning yourself with another nation's sovereignty. Jesus, you can't even protect your own white women from a fat commie German hag.

>unsurprisingly that's what we always witness happen

Not for housing.

you're an idiot

"jobs" aren't finite - any human can be produce things that are valuable to other people and thereby command an income via the sale of whatever it is they produce

and when machines are producing most of the physical niceties with less human input, you can engage in less and less laborious activities which will nevertheless be saleable

shill detected

YANG2020

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you are using psyop tactics

The whole multi-decade long "Weather Change" fear campaign no longer works. So, they are transitioning to different methods of fear mongering. It's all a total fraud and manipulation of low IQ democratic cult members.

>OMG TECHNOLOGY! WE ARE ALL DOOMED!
Democrats are literally the dumbest people. These are people who NEED conspiracy theories in order to function in life. Always... ALWAYS coming up with conspiracy theories and doom prophecies.

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this also

No you idiot, also AI will take more jobs then automation will.

>accepting free money from the government is slavery. Ok, schizo it's time for your meds.

toad. all you do is bend over for your EURO kike master, fuckoffhousenigger

lol sure I 50-60% tax. I pay 38% and the first 4200Kr I make per month is tax-free.

You are fake news.

you mad bro?

you have homeowners mafias and building/zoning mafias who don't get their income via competitive processes

when you have groups that get theirs no matter what, and aren't in competition with others, they don't have normal competitive human incentives to provide the best to the people they trade with, since those people don't trade with anyone in the capacity of their mafia-work - they just take their goon-tributes and live their cushy lives

Fuck trump and fuck boomers. $1000 now

>We didn't maxed out. That's BS
No it´s not. 21 trillion is where it´s at. 23 trill or so is point of no return where it is so high that you will struggle immensely to reduce it for a long time. With very high taxes and very low unemployment on basically every fucking person especially on the top 1% wealthy. But just on the top 1% wealthy is not even close to being enough. You have 1/3rd of your people in your country on government means tested assistance right now to make matters even worse for you. Gravy train is not looking so good anymore. The reason we pay very high taxes here is because we are fiscally conservatives and don´t want to be in the situation you are currently in fiscally! Because that´s what otherwise happens when you don´t pay your bills. And you just spend what you don´t have anyways. I don´t envy the future american workforce. You will have to work for decades with very high taxes to get back to the situation you had a few decades ago where the taxes can be reduced again. The gdp growth necessary for not raising taxes to like 60% on everybody even with a top tax of like 80% on the top top bracket earners. Is simply not going to be enough to cover the costs. And you utopianly want universal healthcare and shit like this on top of it. It´s amazing you don´t see it. Ask your people to run the fucking math.

Democrats are the anti-Technology Party. They think technology is made by Satan.

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I was waiting for your paranoia to show up, typical, can't make the argument so you scream, "CONSPIRACY!!!"
go back to sucking kikeshill Alex Jones' dick.

Trump is over!

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No

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>you're lying. you're doing nothing, but projecting what's on Yang's campaign page.
I´m not projecting or lying. I am directly fucking quoting his campaign page! How does yang says he will finance UBI? vat tax AND a massive carbon tax.
yang2020.com/policies/carbon-fee-dividend/
>As President, I will…
>Propose a carbon fee and dividend systems that:
>Sets an initial carbon tax of $40/ton, which would increase in regular intervals
So he has no upper ceiling of how high this carbon tax should be. So he thinks he can just squeeze the living daylights out of industry and energy sector that way. For all the monies he requires for ubi and other things. With zero consequences.
>Use that tax to fund, after administrative fees:
>(50%) The Universal Basic Income
>(50%) Projects that are enhancing efficiency of fossil fuels or increasing availability of renewable resources
>Create a border carbon adjustment to protect American goods that would:
>charge a fee to imports from countries that don’t impose a similar carbon fee, or some type of carbon tax
>provide a rebate to exports to countries that don’t impose a similar carbon fee, or some type of carbon tax
Tell me where i am lying? i am directly quoting his fucking campaign website!

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go back to re**it r/the_donald

Support the comfy collapse.

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Learn English Grammar First Euro Trash.
Then deal with your own migrant crisis kike

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Trump is over.

you're an idiot btw. Did i tell you before? cant remember

fuck me thats a subhuman skull shape. is this a politics board or a prehistoric missing link. any chinks on this board, you need to round up your small skulled amongst you and stick them in the pot along with any stray dogs

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Uhhh wut? How do you transfer wealth from the welfare class to the middle class if the welfare class literally pays $0 in federal income taxes?

>Learn English Grammar First Euro Trash.
Is there bad grammar on his website that i am quoting? If there is it´s certainly not my fault for quoting it!

lol

That is all you have? Omg you are pathetic. The mueller report literally just ended. Your entire fake political party is about to be smashed into the dustbin of history.

You are an unbelievable idiot.

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No, he's just exaggerating the speed at which automation will effect labor markets because it justifies ubi faster.
It's not fear mongering to say "we need to be active about the debt problem, it's too high" instead of "the debt problem is bad, but we can put off dealing with it"
Not fear mongering, but overselling