What about the brain scans?

trannies experienced some childhood trauma like diddling or so that fractured the psyche, and that coupled with MK ultra and the presence of estrogen-mimickers in plastics and atrazine makes the ego shatter off into a new identity to escape the trauma and create a new identity for them to not face reality. what they need is radical self-love and self-acceptance as well as facing their fears and traumas through non-jewed therapy like somatic experiencing or holotropic breathing coupled with exercise like swimming to synchronise the brain hemispheres and go back to wholesomeness instead of a fractured mind.
t. was diddled, fell for the tranny meme with hormones for 3 years and then detransitioned and reintegrated and now have a girlfriend and no more faggotry

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But do you see any significance in the correlation itself. To use a simplistic metaphor, imagine that 99% of females were born with brown eyes, and 99% of males were born with blue eyes. And the

8/10 kids who in their early teens show signs of body dysmorphia grow out of it.
It's not the brain.

All of these studies were done on people who had undergone exogenous hormone therapy. They are useless. At most, you can conclude that exogenous estrogen can change some brain structures, but it says nothing at all about gender dysphoria before hormone treatment.

Usually the people doing these "studies" are psychologists, who are universally retarded and don't understand science. That is why something like 95% of psych studies are not even replicable.

the brain is very mouldable and flexible. your brain scans will look different just if you meditate for 10 minutes a day. doesn't prove anything.

that's the point. If you'd support the trans theory about gendered brains you can easily defeat feminism because then all their arguments are for the garbage can. But instead you want to remain ignorant. You are no better than a fat feminist clit. And that's why feminism will win. It is all your fault.

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>itt Jow Forums takes a shot at neurochemistry and endocrinology
I'm sure the discussions will be well informed, logical, and lucid.

More bullshit.

Science is great when scientists come at a subject without biases or an agenda, and simply seek the truth... but we all know that when politics and big corporations get involved in the scientific process, that is rarely how things go. That is why big pharma can continue to publish science that shows that their drugs are safe and effective. Then, a few years later, there are class action lawsuits against them because it turns out the drug was not safe at all. The same applies to science that is highly political, and the study you are referring to was definitely driven by political interests. The brain scan study had a pitiful sample size and because of its political nature, it's a perfectly respectable position to just say "I don't believe your study". They may try to smear you and paint you as anti-science, but agenda driven science is not real science.

Furthermore, even if the brain of a trans was "closer" to the brain of the opposite gender, what would that show? All that it would show is that there is an observable neural correlate for their mental illness. How is that surprising? There are neural correlates for other mental illnesses like Schizophrenia as well.
gulfbend.org/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=8812&cn=7

Any observed differences between the brain of a trans person and the brain of a normal person are just the measure of their mental illness, in the exact same way as the differences in the brain of a Schizophrenic and a normal person are the measure of their mental illness.

>t. was diddled, fell for the tranny meme with hormones for 3 years and then detransitioned and reintegrated and now have a girlfriend and no more faggotry
Whew...that was a close one...

the whole gender discussion is absurd. Go look up the definition of genders and try to determine a justification for the need. It makes no sense to partition people and have a symbol to refer to people based on these characteristics. People on both ends get way too emotionally invested in something that has no real value.

it would be a good way to test for gender in case someone is not the right gender they think they are.

Sure, but I'm interested in the other 2. I can easily believe that not every single trans has a neurological map matching the gender they identify as, and it may be unscientific and even unhealthy to indulge what would be a delusion in that case. But what about the ones who do?

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And a down's syndrome kid's face looks like a mongoloid, that doesn't make him any less retarded or a mongol, just sick.

Plot twist.. he's a girl

Also, note that not all people of the opposite gender have those differences that they are talking about. They are just "more common" in the opposite gender.
It's unclear if those neural structures even caused their mental illness, or if other factors caused those neural structures. I would be interested in seeing if brainwashing a man to feel feminine and pumping them full of onions would cause those structures to being to develop, and not the other way around.

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Important factor here. If hormones reinforce gender dysphoria that needs to be considered. Although it would give evidence to drugs making the mental condition worse. Can they sue their doctors?

apparently the stupid wordfilters change S O Y to O N I O N S
This place is cucked

Kinda wish I could see my brain scan afer my seizure. Didn't take the time to break it down with me. Only a cryptic, "If you have another one, make sure to tell us.". I had another one, but fuck it I'm going for three in a year.

Guess which one is a real female and guess which one is a mentally ill man who's been fed a hormone cocktail since he was a kid and then had his dick chopped off and part of his intestinal tract repurposed into a sort of necro-vagina that he's currently having big problems with.

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Neuropsychologist here.

There is no transgender brain which is a claim they want, both male and female brains exists and have notable differences.

From reading these studies I question the robustness of their design and methodology.
Regarding the studies you might have read, go beyond what they said and look at the journal or the author. If a journal is called LGBT psychology and they prove something that the LGBT community wants you should be skeptical.

What I'm interested in is transgendered atheists. If you buy into that "feminine soul"/2 spirit stuff...okay, that's one way to ignore basic biology. But if you ascribe to a purely materialistic worldview, that we are nothing but bodies, then how do you claim that someone has an identity not visible in their body without being intellectually disingenuous? Doesn't transgender imply transcendent?

ODing on testosterone.
livestrong.com/article/31320-negative-side-effects-testosterone/

F2M testosterone sensitivity can cause blindness.
medindia.net/news/excess-male-hormones-in-women-may-increase-blindness-risk-186758-1.htm

Low T and suicide.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23893672

Toxic estrogen and some of its effects in man and women.
drnatashaturner.com/toxic-estrogen-causing-weight-gain/

I don't think the whole situation is too surprising. People with XX have better tolerances to higher estrogen levels and people with XY have higher testosterone tolerances. Respectively when they go out outside of the minimum and maximum hormonal tolerances then they have system wide problems.

What did you say? I'm sorry, I skip right past memefag posts

That just means they are mentally ill. Like schizophrenic people, who also have different brain activity.

Don't be a stupid faggot, op

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>is there an anti-trans argument against that?
Ya, it's a red herring, meaning whether the brain can have a different sex than its body is irrelevant. Either way, the only healthy treatment for thinking one is a different sex is therapy. Thinking one can be a different sex through body alterations or appearing differently is delusion, whether or not anyone can show that thinking one is a different sex is founded in reality.

I'm not being a stupid faggot. I generally reject this weird stuff, and I think it can have dangerous repercussions for individuals and society, including higher suicide rates and sexualizing children (when they say a 6 year old can choose his gender, where does that lead?)

But it's important to think critically, to look into opposing views and see if one's position is really correct.

Is that Joseph Gordon-Levitt? I can't think of an actor I hate one moment, then love the next like him. Guy just needs the right roles.

Quick question about the suicide rates: Do you think that's because genital mutilation is traumatizing and/or these are overall sick people, or is because of bully/social stigma?

>Guy just needs the right roles.
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It's a mental disorder.

There's no way around it. Every mental disorder from psychoticism, to OCD, to schizophrenia, all have correlating abnormal brain function. To say they are not mentally ill because they have different brain scans is fucking stupid.

Trans people have extremely low life expectancies (largely because of suicide). I don't think that bullying is the cause of their low life expectancy, because in just a decade western society in general went from being intolerant of them to cuckold-tier tolerance of them. Yet, their life expectancy remains low. The problem is their mental illness drives them to suicide. They will never be happy with what they have.

No, but looking at his filmography, I don't remember 90% of it. He apparentlty is acting with Jamie Foxx next in a sci-fi. #rd Rock was fine, Snowden was good, some other nameless films were mostly shit and cringe. I don't watch movies or listen to music though, unless its old. El Cid is great, I'd watch that more than whatever they make mostly nowadays mostly. I'm only 33, Hollywood and the music industry won't really make what I want.

one of the biggest hurdles is that it's hard to say on an individual level because there is so much variation from one individual to the next even of the same birth sex, sexuality, and gender identity but at the group level, but science is showing our brains are different from our cisgender same sex counterparts and in some ways and places more similar to the gender we identify with.

there's a thread on /tttt/ where some of this is being discussed:
no clue if the cross board linking works without 4chanx anymore