Redpill me on why, if having more guns around makes society safer, america has such high murder rates with guns

Niggers.

Remove black on black crimes, and it will be on the europe level, may be even safer as knifes and acid is not so popular in new world.

Niggers

Niggers, nigger

>retarded leftwing scum makes a shitty point and then leaves because he doesn’t want to get debunked

Same as pretty much every other thread on Jow Forums I guess

We probably have as many swarthy, darkly hued (ahem) citizens as all those second and third rate countries combined in that unsourced chart
that you dangle before us like a crack-addled street whore's filthy underpants you carry about in your back pocket when you aren't wearing them at home and swanning about in front of a full length mirror.

Death rates are going down. Interesting that New Zealand's was also going down before the shooting.

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Niggers. Look up the FBI stats. It's all niggers. America without niggers becomes one of the safest and most armed nations.

Availability of the tool. We have over half the worlds guns, but somehow don't have half the world gun deaths. Poor correlation at best. Most human (non basketball american) deaths are suicide anyways, of which we have a low rate compared to almost any other country listed on your diagram.

Also NIGGERS.

Why is it the country with the most guns also has the most gun related deaths?

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Well,

1) Guns are a part of American culture. It's literally in the founding documents. Other cultures, like New Zealand for example, don't have that and have shitty laws like how you literally can't use a gun in self defense. I think the sheer number of guns in America along with that culture contributes to that higher rate, but not necessarily indicates misuse.

2) America is culturally in-homogeneous, meaning that conflicts and tensions between groups can lead to more violence. Take, for example, how Finland is 93% Finnish. Whites in America hit only about 70% and are dropping. This happens for a whole host of complex reasons.

3) Other countries on the list have an overall lower murder rate period. Finland sits at about 1.1 per 100k people, while America is about 4.9 per 100k. One could argue that it's more of a mentality issue than a gun issue. You may take away the guns, but that doesn't necessarily mean you change the American murder rate. It could just as easily be converted into deaths by knife.

4) America needs to be all-or-nothing. 85% or more of these big shootings in America happen in gun free zones. Why? Because murderers don't want opposition. Why the fuck would someone hellbent on murder go shoot up a military base or something where they're guaranteed to get BTFO in seconds when you could go to a place that literally advertises that nobody can fight back?

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Niggers

NIGGARS FAMILY

niggers

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Gun control supporters and apologists refuse to look at the bigger picture:There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
• 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – gun violence
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Blacks. As soon a black guy gets a gun, he starts robbing/killing people.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides......Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
Taking away guns gives control to governments.

The founders of the USA knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. Americans must preserve it at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power."

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is “control," not “gun."

Here are some unbiased sources:

ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf

pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

Most of the non-suicide ones are because of niggers. Most of the non-nigger ones are because of spics.

follow up question: if niggers are the ones inflating the stats, why? what is it about them that makes them so shooty?

Suicide rates with guns are so high because it's simply easier. You're haphazardly applying cause and effect. Guns don't convince people to suicide, that's a cultural/psychological problem, they just provide the tools to carry it out. I can't speak to gun violence in general, but usa is a country of extremes and I think many of the same factors that drive suicide rate, drive violent gun usage. Possibly diversity and the subsequent lack of belong is one of these social/cultural/psych factors.

Really good posts, thanks user.

Blacks have lower IQ and can't think for shit, and higher testosterone which does lead to violent tendencies/aggressive behavior.

niggers

being a nigger

>leaf completely BTFO another leaf

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First of all those deaths are hyper-inflated by including suicide and accidents, the rest is explained by niggers. We have much less violence than many other countries, just more gun violence than countries that banned guns. I'd much rather be better armed than the niggers than have niggers and no guns.

Nonissue

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thank you

See for yourself, OP.

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Per capita America has a shit ton more gangs than other western countries.

What is per capita

Death rates dont equal crime
Legal self defense and suicide are included in these stats

Show a disarmed country like Britains knife crime stats
Havent seen any acid attacks in America

OP is a low IQ concern trolling faggot. You seriously can't figure this out on your own retard? You need to come here and ask anons?

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Monoamine Oxidase A

13% 50%

Niggers.

>Hungary
>high income country
LOL

We have literally millions of more people then those other countries you dumb cunt

If niggers are such a huge issue, isn't it logical to ban guns to disenfranchise them?

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I mean, Portugal and Slovakia are on there, too; you're not far from them.

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