The left using words randomly to alterate their meaning

A common tactic of the left is to use certain words in order to get them to have multiple/alternative meaning, making the discussion impossible.

For example they may use socialism to refer to free healthcare, so that people start to think that socialism is basically free healthcare. Or they may use liberism to refer to crony-capitalism.
They do this with all kind of words and it is a voluntary tactic.

Where I can find the source that this is a voluntary tactic? I know there is material written about this, but I can't find it.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesopian_language
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true white supremecy = islam

white people = colored people.
if you can get women to say and mean something everyone else follows.

also white people = colored people = nazi.

you aren't going to get anyone to admit this either. they can only speak how they have been taught to speak. so your not allowed to call muslims white.

Sounds like Rules for Radicals but I wouldn't remember which rule

you might get away with calling muslims caucasian and that implies white. it's all so fucking tiresome. the end goal is to claim our societys oppress women and only fuck muslim chad and once they have that accomplished to say that the muslim society is oppressive because they aren't free and can't fuck who they want. it's really just never ending complaining from women. at some point maybe everyone will just agree that women are stupid dumb people and whatever society decides to do shouldnt be based on womens thots at all.

its called not being consistent.

btw a lot of people aren't going to want to have this conversation. it's confusing. it's controversial . a lot of problems arise from it and plus theirs a bunch of non ironic naziz that think whatever qaulity makes them better. and it may be true that they are better looking and smarter but it's still fucking annoying that they want to derail and subvert productive discussions. in the end i believe islam will win and women will virtue signal about it like "yay we beat the naziz" then after so many years centuries maybe women will start to view muslims as oppressive naziz. women are just mad that they'll never or only in the FAR future be able to literally be born as a woman but grow a dick and penetrate another women. they'll NEVER feel that feel in their lifetime. it's penis envy. world runs on penis envy. also competing with chad is a form of penis envy but it's unavoidable because well survival.

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the problem with everything is theyre lying about the whole world to you.
they lie about physics which deals with the world. Look at it. they have the stupid shit out, and ive seen only since mid 90's that they believe there are such things as black holes. and other crap. this is brought up by mathemeticians
youtube.com/watch?v=PSJjs4l_FHU

no dude. they aren't stupid. they are subversive ass holes that take advantage of sheep and stupid people or the uninformed. you implying they are just stupid is also subversive as fuck.

>socialism to refer to free healthcare

No they used socialized healthcare to mean government mandated purchase of a healthcare plan.

This is how fucking stupid and boot licking you`d have to be to be leftist. They dont actually exist. Its all internet AI at this point.

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did i say stupid? i said non-consistent. the OP is saying they have multiple meanings for words. the point isnt fuckign godamn man you just didnt even read did you. im pointing out the truth and you are butthurt arent you?

im endangering those federal grants, or aka welfare that without blackholes and all this fake shit that they claim runs the world wouldnt be there.

its called non consistnet you stupid fuck

I think it’s called pilpul.

I hate how it's impossible to argue the concept of "social liberals" with commies.

right now at this point theyre just bitching at everybody and call this normal chatting

theyre are no stupid or sheep or uniformed

there are retards and everybody knows them. then they are retard cocksuckers like you who thijnk theyre real funny. there are no stupid people,. just retards and people who act stupid but they all cult together and can remember what each other say long enough to parrot it and pretend its part of some consensus as if tho you shouldnt be shot and think you have some right to fucking talk

Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction

Also
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida

also
>stupid, sheep, uninformed
prove it. there are only retards and everybody knows it. then theyre are liars like you

its plainly consisntency thats why this guys post makes no sense

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The perfect example of this is the “racism=prejudice plus power.” They literally redefined the word so it couldn’t apply to white people (and only white people).

Orwellian doublethink

They changed the definition of Fascism.
It used to not say anything about it being specifically a right wing ideology.
Now it does.
They changed the definition of Gender. Gender literally used to mean sex.
You already said the socialism one. (no having a fucking post office isn't socialism you retards)
There's plenty more though. He who controls the language controls what can be talked about.
It's really reminiscent of this tactic this certain group of people do. The tactic is called pilpol.

To be fair your entire post is word salad, and you're typing like a drunk phone poster.

Worse is all the "isms" with negative connotations but that nonetheless are justified by fact. "Sexism" and "racism" to force through women and darks into positions of influence so they can fuck things up, and those leadership disasters are promptly memory-holed to maintain the negative connotation while hiding the denial of reality.

he's an idiot and i don't care. i said nothing but that they are mathematicians and made up the whole "mathematician" shit since 1913 and they are pretty much have almost destroyed PHYSICS which is about the WORLD. so they are lying about the WORLD. teh whole world then is a bunch of bullshit every time they open their fucking mouths like the guy who was replying to me.

how the fuck is that calling anybody stupid. theyre idiots becuase they intentioanlly lie. teh picture spoke for me.

im fucking sick of disinfo shits like him not taking what i say and undesrtanding when its plain as fuck easy as piss a barmaid could undrstnad it but they act liike stupid fucks so much they take what i sayy and they shit salad word it somehow wtf is stupid they are idiots man. they want me to be stupid so they can act like they have any business talking since they can't say shit since they have nothing to say. so they shit up what everybody else is talking about

>pilpul
In the end, it's always them

I don't understand how people can take this retard seriously. Denying that statistically you can plot figures is worse than flat-earther shit. What the fuck does it matter if you mark out a specific spot on a graph that represents where 1 or 2 is? Does it need to be infinitely small so it doesn't encroach on 0.05% of the number value next to it? The purpose of graphs isn't meant to perfectly symbolise the absolute nature of mathematics, they are to show trends.

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very interesting, also thank you for reminding me of a dark time in which I studied philosophy at university (dropped out and did CS instead)

>"figures"
???? plot figures? ok. i dont know whawt the fuck this means and noone else does either. its a concept. what you are meaning by it is your bullshit idiot lying crap. you didnt clarify anything becuase you want to lie abou the fucking world
here we go everybody the niggers who glows are around as always since they havent got shit to say

Jow Forums has weak pilpul. most of you need to be more well versed in it

to you figures means "you're right" becuase hey it added up im right you cant't deny that 1 plus 1 is 2 unless you are a rtard
the real truth here is you are fucking retarded and trying to retard everybody to the level of retards

math is the language of adverbs it can not explain it can only describe. everybody who listens to you is a retard

Orwell's Politics and the English Language is on-line and a good start.
His character Symes in the novel Nineteen Eightyfour was involved in destroying the language so that, for example, the only meaning the word 'free' had was "This dog is free of fleas."
The goal was destruction of language so thoughtcrime was impossible.

you cant force definitions the tower of babel showed that.
what they want to attempt to do is do teh same thign with currency now. make it were noone can talk unless yoyu are a faggot and eveythign will be, a hate crim according to them.

and they fund this cult with their counterfeit money

God you're fucking retarded.
All it is, is the representation of numbers on a graph, that autistic dumbfuck was complaining about how people mark out the numbers. It's fucking stupid and inconsequential.

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youre amking up what your saying noone is complaing about numbers ON THE graph.

you completely are fuckign an idiot. fuck you. i got that to say to you since you didnt comprehend or take any responsibility in your post

ill try to attempt to reply
graphs arent numbers.

numbers on a graph cant represent anything. since numbers and graphs are th same. you didnt explain what your graph was showing. you dont just fuckign throww a graph into nowhere and claim it explains anything

I'm not a math autist, I have a real degree. Denying basic concepts of mathematics is fucking stupid though. Why take issue with the way things are graphed, why not take issue with definitions? The guy focuses on random shit. It's like a flat Earther telling you the Earth is flat because a glass sphere won't float in water.

ok nevermind you obviosly are retarded or didnt watch it. it wasnt said and you are a liar

lay it out point to it show everybody how fuckign stupid you are

ive watched it and i dont know what you are fuckign talking about (marking out numbers)

you got a real degree and i bet you are funded with grants from your government who have real business in having some stupid fuckign subject studied

theres is NO thing graphed. there is nothing graphed. thats teh point. theyre attempting to define a point. using numbers...

not POINTS but A POINT. NIGGER

fancy way of gaslighting

the point is you are left confused, not knowing what is true or even if you can know what is true

exaclty here it is.

see i said that math doesnt explain it can only describe.
so he, changed the ssubject and says something that wasnt even said. attempting to throw a leg under something that can't stand claiming that math explained somehting

My graph shows the value of an item, and it's plotted with the value of 2 of them. I could add more numbers and bullshit, but the specific thing the guy was taking issue with was the places I marked the dots. He's complaining about it because the dots aren't infinitely small, they aren't perfect and only taking up the space of the values of having 1 item, and it costing $5. Instead it's got values of 1+ and - about 0.05 and $5+ and - 0.05, because the dot is too big on the graph. Do you realise how inconsequential that is? Graphs aren't perfect, nobody cares. Life goes on.

It's still fucking stupid to discard the usefulness of a graph, and it absolutely doesn't discount the actual mathematics behind a $5 item being $10 if you have 2 of them.
The raw numbers are perfect, it doesn't matter. Everything that guy was complaining about was fucking stupid.

I made a diagram and everything, the guy is taking issue with how big dots are on a graph, and how people call them points on a graph.

If you adhere to traditional political spectrum then "left" = liberal / anarchist.
Language is a form of order though standards.
Why would an anarchist ever commit to a language, let alone anything? They'll do whatever it takes to avoid consequence.

In the current political "climate" a moderate or centrist is no closer to the center than a conservative is to the right. This is because the media itself is infested with liberal (and foreign) bias.

Can you really expect anyone to give a shit about their own country when a loud minority of foreign interests are the only ones allows to broadcast their opinions?

no its not. thats not what the video said. you are complete moron who needs to go back to the retarded class,
i dont know what you are even saying, with your explanation of that picture. neither one makes any sense. i guess when you lie you have no fuckign eintention of having any morals

>Jow Forums defines all muslims as white
>feminists now view islam as white supremecy
>feminist death squads kill all muslims

were in the video is this stupid statement by you said

you are fuckijg stupid becuase he never talked about htat you are putting that in to somewhere it was never put.

Jews pipul.
Muslims taqiyya.

But don't be mistaken. You cannot be right-wing and also permit lying. These are anarchist ideologies.

i didnt watch it fully i cringed and its too noisy, but he seems to be trying to deconstruct math by showing that since theres no real thing as a point then "aha!"

but like you said before, the fact is plotting shit in graphs is convenient and useful, has tested uses and functions, and also that the ideal concept of a point serves as a principle to the rest of geometry, that then have actual operational use irl and we can see it all around us

like i said, to me this kind of arguments based on deconstructing shit, specially when its sth related to the sciences or when its logic itself, is parasitical and ill-willing, it only serves the purpose of debasing your sense of self, reality, and possibility of action; its basically a political strategy

Enough. I guess it's worthless trying to bring you back into the fold.
We'll be keeping an eye on you. You're a useful 'truthsayer' at the moment, but don't stick your head up too high. We'd hate to have to intervene.

what you are looking for user is stuff about neuro linguistic programming

He can't unsee the truth of what he has seen. Let's just observe for now.

you dont even make a point and i dont care what a zealot has to say about anything,

god damn if it isnt being showed to you by your religion math, you refuse to acknowledge that its real

whether you do or not, it is.

>possibility of action
lets talk about that disinfo attempt
>

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Lol learned something today...
Chutzpah is a negative in hebrew but dem jews got us humans thinking its a compliment

show me at what point in the video you are talking about.

'ive seen another i think that is similiar to this and i might be confusing it. i dont want to sit through it as i understnad it just fuckign poijt it out to the rest of us when he is complaingin about the size of the dots or whatecer your claiming the point of the video about what the ponit is

you cant even get the topic of the video straight i dont think you know what your saying on anythign else either.

what?

The (You)'s are flattering, but you had better watch out. You don't want us to turn off your simulation, now do you?

find an old dictionary and carry it around with you at all times. when faggots start speaking gutter talk just whip it out and slam a fucking OXFORD DEFINITION on their monkey brains.

> please don't take the fake money away
id hate to have to fend for myself. i mean i couldnt possibly do anything of value ever. no, by th eway whats your point?
just point to were in teh video your speaking of. if not then im going to have to say your just shit talking on the whole video without any point to
get this a video that is about whats the point.

whats the ponit of you talking if you cant even make a single fucking statment online. retard

redefine the words to beat them

>racism is familyism

Imagine a world where loving your children more than strangers was a crime. That you were told something was wrong with you because you loved people more genetically similar to you. People would attack you, call you a familyist and tell you that you had familyism.

Maybe you even started to believe then. Believe something was wrong with you, started treating your kids more cold.

Maybe you even internalized the insult and believed it so much that you’d attack other people that loved their children.

Maybe you’d live your whole life like that , thinking there something wrong with you. And fighting yourself every day, resisting your natural human biological urge to love your children, even tho it caused a whole in your heart and a lack of warmth.

Well you don’t have to imagine. That’s the world we live in today and we call that racism and those people racists.

white ethnostate
>poland & hungry
white nationalists
>polish and hungarians

If they complain about white nationalists then ask them why they don't think poland has a right to exist.

>xenophobia
not taking candy from strangers, interviewing strangers, screening. etc.

hate speech
>free speech.

Canadians, British, and Australians have a weird obsession with nanny state cuckery / complacency. The only spine they have is the one given to them by their state. They're no better than communists.
The only reason the US even pretended to be friends with these faggots is because of Jewish tricks.
You're trying to argue with someone that likely perceives "couldn't care less" as a universal truth.
Whether they couldn't because the perceive consequence or because they don't care is irrelevant. They are not making a conscious decision. They are just regurgitating pre-programmed noises.

>political strategy debase

i just a fucking picture of a false flag. thats what a false flag is is a political debase something.

debasing free speech is what the picture is about

thats jot what that video is about
i dont owe you retards any answers. you cant even point out anything or lay it out becuase of how fuckign dumb you would look

he didnt debase a point.

he says a point is a dot on a piece of paper, like a period on the end of a sentence. we all know what a point is.

i said that the thing this OP's topic is about he asked is that, They can't be consistent.

yuou talk about one thing while people talk about another. replying to others replying to the OP, with something, thats not even fucking idont know where its coming from since you have made it up. now and then.

We need to enact socialism so every home is equipped with an m-134 and 10000 rounds of ammunition

im explaining were this noise has came from.
its a destruction of physics and it comes from the cult i mean the church. same one who jailed people for saying the earth wasnt the center of the universe. those, same thought criminal piece of shit idiots.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism#Reception_in_Early_Modern_Europe

the worlds not flat. or the earths is also not the center of the universe. the universe is infinitavely bigger than i can think of big. and i dont fucking care niether do i have to since it doesnt affect me since i dont believe its limited in any way. and have not seen anythign that shows me that ever. i dont fucking care.

fuck europe all i know is the earth is in the universe and not the center of it. thats dumb

all that came from europe before america was made was a bunch of fuckign dumb bullshit

europe is not the leader of any leading technology so go eat shit

frens

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In order to shame future potential right wing leaders and politicians they have given “demagogue” a negative connotation and also named negative things in similar words (demagorgen in Stranget Things), never forget Chelsea Clinton is on the company board of Dictionary.com

I know you're explaining. I just also know the person you're trying to reach will likely never care to be reached. They are complacent with their environment that allows them to apply the minimal effort to live. "Couldn't care less." because if they did the environment would eject them.

Ask a British man "what" a wheel is, and he'll gladly tell you.
Ask a British man "why" a wheel is, and the police will demand to see your license.

so what
we control linguistic memetics, we control the evolution of culture and society. as long as we remain ego free and internet robust our dreams become memes and so forth

How interesting i myself am actually a nationalist. But i have been using this tactic for years as well.
My dad always used this tactic on me since i was born. He was a very angry political person.
I am now 24 and i still remember in age of 5 when said to my dad about some political person that in my opinion seemed to talk so much sense.
After he yelled for 6 hours into my ears that i am stupid fucking crazy person who needs to be send into a mental hospital and shot into the head. There where many many conversations like that over the years.
I always hated that crazy nutcase.

Education institutions (ie public school / colleges) just block access to websites and limit free speech.

On one hand I'm glad Trump is pressuring these anti-free-speech parasites by threatening to take away their federal subsidies.
On the other I wish he'd stop kissing Israel's ass so much lately.

It sounds like either Frankfurt School ideology or Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky....or it's close enough to their actual tactics.

Biggest example is how they've tried to change the meaning of the word "racism" to suit their goals.

Eventually if they have it their way, we won't be able to agree on the definition of the word "is", and societal cohesion will collapse as different words mean too many different things due to being "offended".

SJW's and leftists are the destroyers of the modern tower of babel.

>Tell a British man the wheel is "problematic" and also "doesnt even exist" at the same time.

wait wait.
are
(you) saying this guy doesnt even say a consistent point?

Questions require a license in the UK.
TV
Utensils
Being white
Rape

As long as you don't question it, you're A-O-K.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesopian_language

every claim ive read about that video (you) guys made is what he is quoting you (you)rselves making. about what their claim of a point is

i believe theyve only tried to fool you guys not me. as they won't fool me. theyve been threatening and attempting to convince me i believe with only threats since theyve lost and they used a few minions to do it, 2 to be precise. i dont care what they or their fuckign minions thinks about me. fuck them

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I treat it this way. Like how if you say "the sky is blue" but someone might mockingly say "sometimes is red". The statement isn't untrue, but the intent of their statement is what matters, not so much the content. They'll use a fact or truth as an excuse to mock for entertainment. The intent is to entertain themself. This is innocent.

When the intent is to deceive, then its not innocent. This is malicious. Pilpul. Taqiyya.

As long as the intent is not deceptive, its not worth being angry about.

Also its safer to assume the flag is genuine than the person is trolling.
If someone was so desperate to hide their flag they shouldn't be taken seriously to begin with.

>intent is to deceive
then ive made my point. they do not get to go nah its ok with me, i mean. um. pussy. you are a pussy.
the questions what a wheel is and why a wheel is to me are stupid.

what a "wheel" is. this seems to cover all grounds, it doesnt ask about any particular wheel.

this seems to be some kind of stupidity that people have fallen for. sorry yes you lose. i mean todays your lucky day. learn

I think you're looking for neo-language.
It's like what they did with racism.
They needed the word to shut down discussions but then they realized everybody was racist, because racism used to mean discrimination (of any sort) against other people because of their race. Now it's discrimination + power, so that way it only applies to white people.
I think you can find more information of where does this come from in Encyclopedia of Governance.

there is 2 types of science. physics and philosophy. and im not going to discuss with a retard, you know. and were already in it. if someone is moralless fuck them. it doesnt even matter, you discuss topics, and they either understand or aren't rational one.

everything tho starts with physics. you can't discuss philosophy without some ground rules.

why arent there any black country singers?
>couldnt find an image for this

power said to by who?

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It's not a new tactic. They learned it from the Jews.
There used to be words like Judahite, Israelite, Edomite.
All replaced with one word. Jew.
Change a word in everyone mind and you can change history.

Promissory note used to mean an agreement to pay back a debt.
Now it's called a US Dollar.
Don't believe me ? Look at a US dollar.
Words have LOTS of power.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder used to be called shell shocked.
Developmentally Challenged used to be retarded.
They have changed 1000s of words.

their not really words theyre all spin. all that shit is spun. us dollar is the definition in itself of debt. its a debt note. a note, can be anything. its not a promissary note. its debt they in the future promise to pay back, based on fucking nothing it was never lent to begin with

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Before even engaging the argument demand mutually agreed upon definitions.

They unfortunately do get to say "its ok with me" because they don't care and it likely will never affect them. Making them care is difficult because they are too comfortable with their environment. A "silver spoon" type of mentality. They don't question the spoon as long as its there. "Affluenza"

"What" is objective and "why" is subjective.
Objectives are seen. Subjective are unseen.
"What" a word is, is rarely argued. You can see it. "See it to believe it."
"Why" a word is, is always or never argued.

When you argue "what" a wheel is anyone can tell you if they've seen it. If they haven't, they'll subject a view of it.
When you argue "why" a wheel is everyone seems to have an answer, or is too afraid to answer because it might shatter their world view.
When "why" becomes "what" it loses objective meaning.

Your point is that only the objective matters.
My point is that some people don't care what the objective is and will subject their view onto it to take advantage of people / deceive. If you can't question "why" then there's deception being used either by the person or against the person.

The "why" ultimately isn't important. Being able to "why" is. The freedom to ask.

If you ask what Islam is and they say:
>Islam is a religion of peace!
You ask "why"? They won't have an answer because they already subjected "why" onto "what". They will never tell you "what" Islam is because they can see what it is. Instead they'll tell you "why" because they refuse to see "what" Islam is.

no its not why is objective.
everything yo usay is the opposite of truth you must be one of these you dont give a fuck about what anybody else sees or says

ok fine u them whatever then, you are trying to smoke screen your involvment in this lie. how do you force yourself upon anybody else when nobody fucking cares about some irrational person or what they say or think. its like some guy saying i dont like you and you dont know them. so what, tell them fuck you and walk off. what?

we dont need to appease you only explain to were you can understand. what you do from there is your thing. but when people won't listen to things we all know are real or true then, they need locke dup

if you attempt to attack me then i have full right to cut your head off and shit down yoru neck

>Governance
Finally figured out why that word bugs me: it deletes the agent. With government, though somewhat an abstraction, it's still connected to men -- with preferences, obligations, allegiances, opinions, agendas, interests, etc. Replacing that with governance further abstracts and makes this "stuff" seem like water to a fish -- something that we peons no longer even have even nominal influence on.

Racism is actually prejudice + standing. Whites are the universal racists and Black are the universal racism victims. Olympics athletes and Special Olympics participants illustrate this: it's not considered cruel if the latter ridicules the former but only if the former ridicules the latter.

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all of human civilization does this, words control everything so everything tries to control the words, just a niggers prefer the word hood you prefer the word house, because holding on to the word means everything to you as it does to them, it's a war of culture though langauge and it is fought eternally.

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Sorry I took too long to reply cause internet cut out.

You're being deranged and need to calm the fuck down and stop committing hypocrisies. You ask for definitions and then deny them. I wasn't attacking you. I was speaking indirectly with my own opinion. Its not my job to speak for you or anyone else other than myself. I can't see you or them so I can only make assumptions.

I'm not saying "why" is objective. I'm saying people project subjectives onto objectives.
Unseen onto Seen.
"Why" onto "What".
"What" is on your screen is all subjective. You're seeing words and images on a screen because you're using the computer to project subjectives onto "what" the screen is.
Numbers are subjective.
Language is a subjective.
These don't exist without objectives. Context.
If the subjective replaces objective, then there is no objective. Its not real.

Sex is between male and female. To be had between only male and female. "What" this word is has never changed. Only the "why". Why would you want to use this word in a false sense? To degenerate sex.

Gender is birth. What you're born as. "What" this word is has never changed. Only the "why". Why would you want to use this word falsely? To degenerate birth.

"What is God" cannot be answered by anyone that cannot see God. Only "why", but "why" God does things is not "what" God is. Why would you want to use the word falsely? To degenerate God.

Indulging in hypocrisy is degenerate.

You mean like referring to literally everything capitalism does wrong as "communism"?