How do you feel alt righters knowing that a college kid managed to destroy your hero steven crowder...

He came across as a social Democrat, Crowder implied he was a National Socialist and he looked annoyed. He's stupid either way.
He may not have called him autistic out right but IIRC he referred to libertarian ideas as autistic. Crowder is libertarian on the economy, connect the dots.

>Crowder
>Alt Right
Choose one.

>socialism doesn't work
If it's the reich kind of socialism it does

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Socialism is a quick and easy debate for me. Socialism is when the gov takes over business, all business. I am a gov employee not military. I get no raises no matter how hard I work, no matter how much money I save, I get nothing. I have really no promotion opportunity. I do use enough to keep my job. I have zero motivation to do shit. Now imagine that on a country wide scale and add in the fact that you’ll have political elites that live by those rules who live billionaire life styles that you’ll never live because you were never born into it.

Normally i like crowder but what a cunt...bad form

This.
The kid went on Nick Fuentes show after this

what point does crowder imply that the kid is a nationalist? i missed it.
is crowder aware that northern european countries only function well because they are full of white people? does anyone ever bring this point up

crowder is kosher certified boomer tier. nothing of value to see here

Forgot the exact moment, but Crowder asks the kid if he is a nationalist as he’s asking him about wages and immigration.

the kid dropped Jow Forums memes on crowder and knew about the JQ when our guy asked him

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Yusuf is a crypto national socialist lol
That's why this meme is funny

I don't think Crowder implied it but Yusuf kind of did it himself (enforce strong border policies or you can't have socialism, inequality breaks social cohesion, corporative power causes illegal immigration, etc). That's why he got so nervous and started getting so aggressive. He was not only losing the debate, he knew what conclussion it was leading to. He probably wanted it to stop before they started to talk who's in the 1% and that's why he said "uh huh you think you talk smort cause you talk in long paragraphs, I'd rather give the mic to someone else".

Never gonna happen again.

Steven Crowder is not "altright" you fucking faggot. He is a conservative Christian, not a white nationalist.

>Crowder
>Our hero

Crowder is fake and gay.

>your
>hero

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Crowder is our hero? What?

You realize the kid is a national socialist hiding his power level, right? He is Jow Forums.

Making this thread again huh?
This has been discussed to death.
That kid got his ass handed to him.

Explain how he won the debate
Pro tip: you can't

they arent socialist, private industry = capitalism

>implying Jow Forums is alt right

I wouldnt say the kid won but crowder definitely lost. Crowder got emotional and stopped debating.

give me a tldw

How do you know? The very short lived time of national socialism involved enormous amounts of expansionism and property seizures. Who can say if it would have succumbed to “running out of other people’s money” just like the rest do?

>1 post by OP
>this thread every day
>eceleb shit

This but unironically.

After ad hominem attacks were thrown out.
When people start using informal fallacies it means THEY are the ones with no real argument, and you no longer have any need to continue to debate with them as they are obviously not using logic, and reason correctly.

Good try though.
NEXT

Alt right isn't even real. It's a bullshit term used by the MSM

Yes I understand that too, although tax rates are high enough to maybe push it back towards a "socialist" definition though. (It's somewhat hard to define even when you read their literature) My point is simply the plans only work when there is social cohesion and high intelligence aka all whites (and when youre not constantly purging smart people)

there's 2 posts by me now faggot

Little boy say
>If you have a minimum wage, no illegal immigration, no mass immigration
I say
>UK has both-England and to a lesser extent Scotland Wales and even N.Ireland now is beginning that road.

One of the best things about the Change My Mind segments is that they are shown un-interrupted and un-edited. The fact that somebody had to severely edit this in order to show an example where Crowder "lost" speaks volumes.

I urge all to watch the real version of this without stupid popups or edits to get the real story

So you admit you had no intention of participating in this thread unless being called out for it. You posted a bait thread, and just wanted to read the replies.
You're what's wrong with this board.

That's the problem exactly, all of their "it works" rhetoric comes from using homogenous white nations. I don't think many people in the U.S would be against socialist policies (The only one we're missing is healthcare) if we didn't have to pay for Niggers and Spics.

Little boy say
>Inequality is bad for society
I say
>He's right mainly. What I would say is, if you keep the country homogenous and you move to a more natsoc type model, or you can say mixed economy if you like, it would be the absolute best way of doing things. One size does not fit all though, it would be impossible to do with America, the demographics will always ensure its failure unless you gave states almost complete autonomy and seperated the races into designated racial states.

that's not an argument. You still haven't proven that your hero crowder didn't get cucked

The entire point of socialism is to BE EVIL. That way, you need a strong central authority to make it work for everyone.

The end game of socialism, is communism. Don't take my word for it either. Marxist 'scholars' have been proclaiming such for a century.

high taxes are just something capitalism does to make it harder to compete with the already super rich

every single government policy under capitalism benefits the megaporky one way or another

lel you're probably the kid from the video trying to live off his 2 seconds of non-efame

kys

Those countries aren't socialist.
They're like the safety nets we have in the US. And there's no way I'm paying a shitton of taxes just because someone is unequal to me, fuck off. Even in a homogeneous nation.

Who?

you are so confused i dont even know where to begin

Yousef won. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's right.

If you're going to live with millions of people in a nation, you'd better find a way of keeping them all content. This isn't the 1800s where everyone is miles apart and there's a low population.
Revolutions breed due to discontent among mainly younger men, that's why you can't get rid of communist infiltration.
Otherwise, you'll be forever doomed to deal with that, avoidable crime and incarceration and a large police force and all the costs those entail.

Neither would you need to pay a shit load of taxes if you had a responsible government ensuring the vast majority have work where private industry can't provide. It's the power of banks, seculators and multinationals etc that stop this from happening.

>Private industry kept in check by a government for the people
>Speculators

Most incarceration in the US is because of drugs and niggers.
Besides, the US still isn't even a free market, it's closer to capitalism but it isn't like Singapore or something.

>shitton of taxes

What do you mean by this user because it's already true.

1) Before the dollar even hits the market you are paying taxes on it.
2) You pay atleast 25 - 45% tax on your paycheck.
3) You pay 6-10% tax on everything you buy
4) Have a car or house? You're paying 4% (with good credit) annually to the value of your debt
5) You pay 2.5% property tax just to continue to own your land

I can continue.

That doesn't make it correct stupid.

>most incarceration
Ok so say it becomes an all white country, you're saying that the white lower class would be far less likely to do crime or rise up in rebellion I think, if they couldn't get work for a decent wage?
You only need to look at european history to see that isn't true. Beneath most notable rebellions in all white countries you'll find economic disparity as the lynchpin.
People (usually the idea's propagated by very rich men that then floats down into the heads of us, the easily swayed masses following party ideology, the parties themselves being ran by more very rich men) ignore this and repeat capitalist mantra like it's the word of God which is helping no one but the very rich who are sucking up all the worlds wealth while we are set upon one another thinking the other is after their taxes.
Labour of man was, is and always will be the most valuable thing to a nation...or at least it would be true had the eggheads not moved us towards an automated future which is going to be a whole other dystopia for us all but the super rich.

My point is, usury is the problem and having socialist policies is beneficial. There is no reason we cannot have nice roads, healthcare , safety nets for unemployment and adequate care for the disabled. Provided we don't have niggers or spics unnerving cohesion.

I have a first hand example, I know someone who had a medical emergency and needed their appendix removed or they would die. The procedure was done and after insurance the family owed $9,000. This was done by a walk-in emergency room and had this person been a nigger on welfare or an illegal spic they would not owe anything.

>Punching someone because they called you a name

What kind of insecure faggot are you

People can solve the disparity voluntarily. People aren't equal in terms of creating wealth so it isn't shocking or even immoral at all.
No, socialist policies just make people feel equal when they really aren't. Medicine is expensive because the government is in it. You're never getting Medicare for all, so don't rely on the government. Even in a homogeneous nation it's still wrong to make someone pay up for something they don't want to do.
How about you grow a pair faggot. I would beat the shit out of you too.

I was there on campus (Illinois) and it didn't go well for Crower in real life I promise you

Steven Crowder is boomer garbage

>B-but socialism is evil
>B-but muh communism

You aren't special, this is not about equality it's about being a united cohesive people you fucking mongoloid. If you haven't gotten the picture by now, I do not support ANY socialist policies that are not accelerating the downfall of this 56% shithole.

Who talks about Steven Crowder here? Literally fucking nobody. He is for normies.

>people aren't equal in terms of creating wealth
Neither are people being fairly rewarded for labour.
Those that now create wealth, large amounts of wealth, are nepotists, the majority of them having had fortunes that go through many generations and by virtue of name and wealth have moulded the system so that most people will never move up. It is unfairly stacked in their favour by orders of magnitude.
You must have heard of Blackpilled channel?He has a nice video on some of this, trying to find it now.
To be clear, i'm not arguing for equality of wealth, but neither should people who labour be poor or exploited by businesses, there should be a safety net which in a responsible society wouldn't be used very much anyway and companies at home should have a duty to the nation that bred them to act responsible, and with loyalty.

>A United cohesive people
Just make yourself a better person, it's much easier that way. If you want to help people I don't care so long as you're not forcing anyone to do shit.

People aren't being rewarded for labor because it isn't creating someone money.
It isn't about how much work you do, it's about generating money for yourself or someone else. That's just how it works, it's easier if there was a stronger market.

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Think this is it. Can't check it, not signed in to goog on this device and it's age restricted.

>not forcing anyone to do shit

Are you some cross between Ancap and libertarian?

>Steven Crowder is the alt-right's hero

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Ofcourse it's creating far more wealth, farrr more than people are paid. Look at the profit margins of these companies, it's absolutely insane that all these companies plead poverty and get tax breaks.

People are not being rewarded for labor because our country is late stage capitalism, where oligarchs rule. Everyone will eventually be unionized, working for the skynet of that sector and essentially on UBI. Un-regulated capitalism, evolves into communism, if you don't see it you may be blind because if you go into any U.S major city you will see nothing but high rise 'commie blocs' the maximum efficient soulless buildings you like to shit on eastern bloc posters with.

I don't know what that even means, you're retarded name calling isn't an argument.
It's a shitty thing to not pay people well, but it's mostly immigration that ruins that to begin with. We have 1 million new legal immigrants every year so I'm not surprised they'll work for any wage. Just deportation is fine with me and close the borders.

>Late stage capitalism
Reddit tier argument

>He thinks neocons are alt-right

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That kid was literally a national socialist tho.

He's definitely half way there. Sadly in that enviroment he's likely to be turned communist.

Checked.

I am honestly not even sure what I am trying to tell you because I have no idea where you stand on economic policy besides you want some sort of wild-west every man for himself scenario.

I agree with you on immigrants. Everything I say is predicated on a homogeneous nation, or at the very least 90+ %

No, you can't read. Just focus on making yourself better and self improve and if people want to improve themselves too they can.

I thought we both made that pretty clear but he was to busy reeeeing about having to help his neighbor Jamal.

you can tell theres a lot of sexual tension there. yea at least one of them got a debate boner. willing to bet some unpaid intern got sodomized after that

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Yusef is alt right you retard. He's a natsoc.

Don't be gay. You're wrong about everything you said.

Oof, you have to go back Paco.

Nah, he just seems to be a socialist with some common sense. Marx literally foretold what mass migration does to the working class, about 150 years ago. Suppose he was a national socialist too.

Crowder did fail hard in that video, quite embarassing... I hope he learned something from that experience.

I still like Crowder a lot and I appreciate his videos though.

>mass migration
Maybe you should be telling todays communists that.

No surprise here. A "debate" is never a point of a show like this. Anyone who's serious about a debate would seek either a prepared, renowned or capable opponent. The idea here is to present some ridiculous namecalling and hassling as a "political debate". In the end, his viewers are the ones who get duped.

>Maybe you should be telling todays communists that.
Like whom? Modern western goverments are neoliberals and neocons, following orders of Financial Capitalist Oligarchy. China, on the other hand, has no immigration.

I do at every oppurtunity, it usually leads to huge arguments that end with them calling me a nazi. Ive given upen on western socialist groups/movements/parties, but Im still personally a socialist.

>Everyone I don't like is Mexican
Cringe
See

what debating tactic is this?

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If you want to know more about based Yusuf, he went on Nicholas Fuentes show

The prom date approach.

Is it actually worth watching?

yusef is a nationalist AND a socialist
I wonder what name one could give to such a person. A social-nationalist? It doesn't roll off the tongue, there might be something better.