WHAT DOES Jow Forums think about seventh day Adventists?

Evidence ?

sure, when the romans changed the day of rest the Christians had to buy and sell on saturday in effect breaking the commandment . And for the first time in 300 years violence was done by christians

>323 Pope Sylvester I in his calendar give to Sunday, first day of the week, name Lord´s day and give commandment to churchmembers to keep it as a holy day and so he changed old Christian and Jewish sabbath to Sunday.[12]
325: The Arian controversy erupts in Alexandria, causing widespread violence and disruptions among Christians.

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

I have been to 7th day adventist churches...

They are definitely a fringe group. They seem normal at first, but have a lot of ridiculous and unbiblical ideas, like no alcohol, and that the world will end in our lifetime. It's definitely a majority-black sect, and that comes with all the unseemly things blacks do, like for instance, creepy elders that try to sleep with young girls in the church.

Please do yourself a favor and join a mainstream sect of Christianity.

Yeah sorry m8 you dont take ellen white as authority , neither do i accept anything from the church fathers

What about the christians in Egypt, Constantinople, India, Assyria, Syria, and Armenia that weren't under the bishop of Rome's jurisdiction?

>mainstream sect of Christianity.
or just be a Christian

>One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Yes that is totaly not about the sabbath but nice try . No one says that he can just choose a day for the sabbath . the sabbath is the seventh day . The same day God rested... Did he suddenly rest a other day

The Seventh Day: God Rests

(Exodus 16:22-36; Hebrews 4:1-11)

>1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ah another typical Protestant heretic following his perceived personal christainity fit for his lifestyle and rationalizing it by saying it's the truth and not his interpretation.

Not paying attention to denominations is how you end up in weird sects.

Yeah the guys who teached arianism probably kept the sabbath . Because you know why Jesus is not GOD the 10 commandments are forever

>(Exodus 16:22-36; Hebrews 4:1-11)
you can't follow the sabbath faggot read the law you going to kill each other for starting a fire or starting their car you fool

>denominations
are weird sects

Its easy to just write documents

As outlined by numerous Fathers of the Church, Christ was the expectation of all the nations, and as such, many of the writings from disperate cultures throughout the world tell of and indicate the great Redeemer of the whole world Who was to come: Jesus Christ.

One incredible example of this was the Sibyl (from the Greek "sibylla", "prophetess") of Erythrae. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythraean_Sibyl) As mentioned by St. Augustine in his "City of God", by St. Nikodemos of the Holy Mountain, and others, a writing of hers not only speaks of the Last Judgment by Christ, but the acrostic, or the first letters of each line in Greek spell out: "JESUS CHRIST SON [of] GOD SAVIOR[,] CROSS". Here are the texts both in Greek and in English; this was written hundreds of years before the birth of Christ:

full-of-grace-and-truth.blogspot.com/2010/01/sibyl-of-erythrae-and-prophetic.html

im reading Tyndale and there is nothing you can do to stop me

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stop larping as Satan

Yes today it will be very troublesome , but that is why the devil does what he does

larp that's not the only law that keeps you from keeping the sabbath

Who says its a larp ?, i have come here to do good . And i will erect the true church of Christ . And you can either join or get wrecked in the second comming

Christianity is a cult and 7DA's are some of the most retarded ones

How do you mean keeping the sabbath means you don't work secular jobs or let someone else work

your id says Satan your playing the devils advocate appearing as an angel of light but pushing 7DA

>17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

you cant cook you cant work you cant do anything expect good necessary things

I dont push sda i push the 10 commandments of God .. Take it up with him

SDA keeps the trinity. That breaks the commandment one God in a sneaky way

They don't believe in hell so they're heretics.

>10 commandments of God
ok thats closer to satan's true form

Yes something like that i dont work or buy things on the sabbath . But as the world is today its near impossible to do something were someone does not work . Internet should not be used for example

You think Satan wants you to keep Gods commandments ? no no he will invent the trinity interpretation and then you broke the first commandment .

The Atheist agrees with me . The Atheist are my guys ?

I successfully sued one of their churches in a town called Monticello here in New York. They're all niggers, Caribbean niggers to be specific, and don't drink or eat meat. They're s weird bunch. I've since moved from that town, but remember that lawsuit and how easily niggers chimp out even when pretending to be so pious.

sixth day Adventist is best

Yet another jewish death cult. Nothing new

Heretical sect. Avoid. Strictly for the schizos and people without understanding.

>One of the earliest proponents of this theory was, in fact, the emperor Constantine himself. In his Oration to the Assembly of the Saints, transcribed by Eusebius Pamphilius in the early 4th century AD, Constantine presents evidence that the Erythræan Sibyl, writing in Asia Minor hundreds of years before the birth of Christ, predicted both His coming and His judgment upon mankind. Constantine explains:

> "The Erythræan Sibyl, then, who herself assures us that she lived in the sixth generation after the flood, was a priestess of Apollo, who wore the sacred fillet in imitation of the God she served, who guarded also the tripod encompassed with the serpent's folds, and returned prophetic answers to those who approached her shrine; having been devoted by the folly of her parents to this service, a service productive of nothing good or noble, but only of indecent fury, such as we find recorded in the case of Daphne. On one occasion, however, having rushed into the sanctuary of her vain superstition, she became really filled with inspiration from above, and declared in prophetic verses the future purposes of God."

gloriaromanorum.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-oration-of-constantine-explaining.html

What did you see them for?

Bumping for truth and Gods eternal law

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Your 'god' never existed

No really ? i can see him right here

You can see people in mentally ill asylums?

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If a blind man looks at the moon and he cannot see the moon does that mean that the moon does not exist?

The blind man is you insult will get you nowhere friend

No one saw 'Jesus' 2000 years ago though. Thats why no historian of that time even mentions him
Which is weird considering how 'popular' he was and all the 'feats' he did.
Should have at least caught the attention of an historian but nope.

The Jews who had all the power made him dissapear from public records . But what if what i say is true why did the Christians break the commandment of God ?. You think that there could be a supernatural force at play here ? I don't only see God i also see the devils handy work

John 1:1
>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 10:30
>I and the Father are one

John 14:7-10
>“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

1 Timothy 3:16
>By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

Vade retro Satana.

i think it would be insane that there would be 100% proof of Jesus while God wants people to have faith

>some of the guard went into the city and told the chief priests everything that had happened. After the priests had assembled with the elders, they devised a plan to give a large sum of money to the soldiers, telling them, "You must say, 'His disciples came by night and stole him away while we were asleep.' If this comes to the governor's ears, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble." So they took the money and did as they were directed. And this story is still told among the Jews to this day.
—Matthew 28:11-15

>the jews who had all the power erased him...

Citation needed

>commandment of god

Didnt he genocided a lot of people including kids and the raping of women? In the OT. But when he 'god' does it its okay right fellow cultist?

I think some of them take their White worship a little too far like Catholics and their Mary worship however I do respect some SDAs, especially Walter Veith.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0

He is a very smart man and is the one that got me into taking Christianity a lot more serious than I did. His Total Onslaught series is packed full of interesting information.

This says nothing of a trinity . And Jesus is the creator God together with the father . the holyghost dwelled in Jesus thus the father dwells in Jesus

God says His Law NEVER changes. Why would he then change the Sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st day?

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I hope you realize that Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc. are all denominations.

>Citation needed

I just did >Didnt he genocided a lot of people including kids and the raping of women? In the OT. But when he 'god' does it its okay right fellow cultist?

What ever God thinks is right , is right . The Jews enemies needed to be destroyed . God is good so it was justified . If he did nothing then the Jews would get wrecked

Ah yes finally someone who supports this , welcome brother

>citations from the bible

Wew breh this is legit proof heh

>xdds bro he is god he can do as he wants if he genocides kids and orders the rape of women then its fine because he is gooood ahahahah xdddd

Kys literal braindead cultist

It is the greater good what eventually would lead to the savior of the world. If you cannot accept that then thats on you . What source did you want then the Jews admitting that they falsified history ?

>it is the greater good that will lead

Says the worshipper of 'god' the infanticidal and rape jealous maniac kek

They falsified history?

Tell me what they falsified on 500bc or 1000bc or 2000bc go ahead

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>Tell me what they falsified on 500bc or 1000bc or 2000bc go ahead

Why would they corrupt their own text ? the pharisees has nothing to do with creating of scripture its just another sect , then the pharisees became the talmudist . They hate Jesus and the new testament

You didnt answer shit brainlet

The people who wrote the OT were jewish whether you like it or no. Hell, even 'god' ordered abraham to circumcise himself and all his males followers

>they are another sect

Yeah just like you

[From the Catholic Mirror of Sept. 2, 1893]
Our attention has been called to the above subject in the past week by the receipt of a brochure of twenty-one pages, published by the International Religious Liberty Association, entitled, "Appeal and Remonstrance," embodying resolutions adopted the General Conference of the Seventh-day Adventists (February 24th, '93). The resolutions criticize and censure, with much acerbity, the action of the United States Congress, and of the Supreme Court, for the invading the rights of the people by closing the World's Fair on Sunday.

The Adventists are the only body of Christians with the Bible as their teacher, who can find no warrant in its pages for the change of the day from the seventh to the first. Hence their appellation, "Seventh-day Adventists." Their cardinal principle consists in setting apart Saturday for the exclusive worship of God, in conformity with the positive command of God himself, repeatedly reiterated in the sacred books of the Old and New Testaments, literally obeyed by the children of Israel for thousands of years to this day, and endorsed by the teaching and practice of the Son of God whilst on earth.

Per contra, the Protestants of the world, the Adventists excepted, with the same Bible as their cherished and sole infallible teacher, by their practice, since their appearance in the sixteenth century, with the time-honored practice of the Jewish people before their eyes, have rejected the day named for His worship by God, and assumed, in apparent contradiction of His command, a day for His worship never once referred to for that purpose, in the pages of that Sacred Volume.

More...

What Protestant pulpit does not ring almost every Sunday with loud and impassioned invectives against Sabbath violation? Who can forget the fanatical clamor of the Protestant ministers throughout the length and breadth of the land against opening the gates of the World's Fair on Sunday? the thousands of petitions, signed by millions, to save the Lord's Day from desecration? Surely, such general and widespread excitement and noisy remonstrance could not have existed without the strongest grounds for such animated protests.

....
Before closing this series of articles, we beg to call the attention of our readers once more to our caption, introductory of each; viz., 1st—The Christian Sabbath, the genuine offspring of the union of the Holy Spirit with the Catholic Church His spouse. 2nd—The claim of Protestantism to any part therein proved to be groundless, self-contradictory, and suicidal.

The first proposition needs little proof. The Catholic Church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday. We say by virtue of her divine mission, because He who called Himself the "Lord of the Sabbath," endowed her with His own power to teach, "he that heareth you, heareth Me;" commanded all who believe in Him to hear her, under penalty of being placed with "heathen and publican;" and promised to be with her to the end of the world. She holds her charter as teacher from Him — a charter as infallible as perpetual. The Protestant world at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the Church's right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant world.

Let us now, however, take a glance at our second proposition, with the Bible alone as the teacher and guide in faith and morals. This teacher most emphatically forbids any change in the day for paramount reasons. The command calls for a "perpetual covenant." The day commanded to be kept by the teacher has never once been kept, thereby developing an apostasy from an assumedly fixed principle, as self-contradictory, self-stultifying, and consequently as suicidal as it is within the power of language to express. Nor are the limits of demoralization yet reached. Far from it. Their pretense for leaving the bosom of the Catholic Church was for apostasy from the truth as taught in the written word. They adopted the written word as their sole teacher, which they had no sooner done than they abandoned it promptly, as these articles have abundantly proved; and by a perversity as willful as erroneous, they accept the teaching of the Catholic Church in direct opposition to the plain, unvaried, and constant teaching of their sole teacher in the most essential doctrine of their religion, thereby emphasizing the situation in what may be aptly designated "a mockery, a delusion, and a snare."

Should any of the Rev. Parsons, who are habituated to howl so vociferously over every real or assumed desecration of that pious fraud, the Bible Sabbath, think well of entering a protest against our logical and scriptural dissection of their mongrel pet, we can promise them that any reasonable attempt on their part to gather up the "disjecta membra" of the hybrid, and to restore to it a galvanized existence, will be met with genuine cordiality and respectful consideration on our part. But we can assure our readers that we know these reverend howlers too well to expect a solitary bark from them in this instance.

en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Christian_Sabbath_(Catholic_Mirror)

I'm an SDA.
We're actually less of a 'cult' than one might think, although I can certainly understand the connotations.
I'm not a big fan of Ellen G. White, desu.
Basically though, we tend to be Vegetarian health-conscious and more liberal socially while more conservative religiously, if that makes any sense.
But most importantly,
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS ARE LESS ZIONIST THAN ABOUT ANY OTHER (((Evangelical))) group!
This is because we do NOT believe in dispensationalism, the Rapture, a literal Armageddon in Israel, or Jews as 'God's chosen people' (although SOME may still be pro-Israel culturally, though that is unlikely).
Also, many SDA's correctly view the USA as an Anti-Christ power.

>Hell, even 'god' ordered abraham to circumcise himself and all his males followers
cirp.org/library/history/peron2/

The covenant between Abraham and God required the little bit of skin at the tip of foreskin to be removed. That covenant was abolished with Christ at the cross and was to never be practiced again. The Jews, being Jews, were angry at Christ and turned that abolished covenant into ritual mutilation that removed the ENTIRE foreskin.

Christians are not supposed to circumcise their sons.

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Looks like someone went to tsabs.info
This is doctrinally correct today.

For an SDA perspective, I would watch the film series "The Seventh Day" narrated by Hal Holbrook, not an SDA himself.
Also, look up the Christians on the island of Iona, in Scotland, and additionally in Ethiopia.
Apparently, during the early centuries Christians would worship on both Saturday adn Sunday.
Tbh I don't consider it that huge of a deal and I have enjoyed attending Sunday services and Mass with Christian friends of different denominations.

Yeah Veith is interesting.
I have a friend in Nagasaki, Japan who is an SDA pastor and when I went to visit him he told me that he was frustrated that many in his congregation had started watching Veith's videos and become 'conspiracy theorists'... I had to stifle laugh and tell him "You have no idea how bad things really are."
And yeah I agree completely about E. G. White.
While I do consider there to be a lot of good things in the Conflict of the Ages series (5 large books) and Steps to Christ (very likely not actually authored by EGW) I still remember my frustration when attending a 'Bible Study' where actually all that was done was reading Ellen White's writings together.
However, MOST SDA's are not like this anymore, that was more of a 1970's and 80's thing and now it's only in the rural areas.
If anything, the pendulum has swung back the other way.

>picture
I say this as an SDA that I wish a lot more Protestants (especially Evangelicals and SDA's) would have knowledge and respect for the church fathers.
The idea that many SDA's have the prophecy and guidance from God ceased after John the Revelator up until EGW, while simultaneously proclaiming themselves the 'true remnant' etc. is ridiculous.
Also, I could do without all the Anti-Catholic sentiment.
If only they could redirect it towards the REAL Anti-Christ/Synagogue of Satan, the Jews!
At least most of us aren't Zionists.

jewish trash like luke porn

>the covenant required to remove the tip skin

Why the fuck?

>christ on a cross

Never happened

Yet another herecy that leads to soul mangling

Heresy. There is but one Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ.

Bump

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Lol you may as well just become a rabbi at this point

Oy vey mazeltof

>25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27

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What's with all these atheist/neopagan Spaniards spamming "CHRISTIANITY DEATH CULT JESUS NEVER EXISTED"?

honk honk

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Sabbath literally means saturday in sanskrit