Anarchist friend of mine posted this recently...

Anarchist friend of mine posted this recently. While he was able to explain the logic behind the picture depicted it shows why "the left can't meme." It's not something someone can look at and follow the logic of, it has to be explained by someone whose well versed in leftist thought or the person reading it themselves has to be versed in leftist thought. Without such massive amounts of pre-existing knowledge pics such as this appear to be fairly illogical and gibberish.

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I understand it.

nobody is denied healthcare though

He's an American like me in which unless you're extremely wealthy or work for a company in a very high level position you're more or less denied quality health care.

Then explain it

The window is someones private property. So its violence its an act of agression against him.

Healthcare isnt a natural right. How can you ask other people to take care of you and provide medication?

So breaking someones property isnt violence and someone not giving you thier time and knowledge to service your health related needs is?

Nothings stopping anarchist from healing or attempting to provide each other healthcare. But if your asking for someone else to provide you free mri's and hospitalization without a majority agreed healthcare plan than its not violence.

That's not true, and besides that, the emergency room cannot turn you away. No one is denied.

No ones denied medical care in the US. Show up at a hospital they treat you.
Bankrupting the nation from illegals, foreign medicare scam artists in Miami, southen California etc. A massive scam.

Another noble effort from the english speaking peoples, destroyed by # mass immigration

its really not that complicated, you're just dense

The argument made by him and another leftist was that violence isn't something involving intention or aggression. Colloquially it's used in a descriptive way or is used as a more severe version of "harm." So, if someone denies someone in need medical services they are indirectly harming that person.

They don't actually. They only have to stabilize you or stop whatever is immediately causing a destabilization. If I get shot they must treat me. If I have an annoying cough then they don't. Hospitals are also not required to provide preventative treatment or ongoing treatment (I.E. Medication, check ups, etc).

It doesn't even make sense. Even if the state has a legitimate monopoly on violence its still violence when they do it. The reason is that one involves the use of physical force, the other doesn't.

>its still violence when they do it
Uhm, so what? A virtuous individual shouldn't be violent but - and here's a literal meme for ya - we live in a society and society is governed by different rules. Whether you subscribe to the social contract or the conquest theory, it doesn't matter, the society and the state are here to stay, in one form or another (AnCapism - with the current social cohesion - would most likely devolve into statism, just more autocratic.)

The state doesn't deny healthcare, it simply doesn't provide it.

>denied quality health care

Yeah, and they're denied housing by people who own more than two homes. Tell your friend to stop reading trash.

Pacifism isn't a virtue. It's a weaklings form of defense

>He's an American like me in which unless you're extremely wealthy or work for a company in a very high level position you're more or less denied quality health care.

You don't actually believe this do you?

>It's not something someone can look at and follow the logic of
Nobody can follow the logic of this, because there is none. Healthcare isn't something that is just available floating freely around the government posts armed guards preventing people from accessing it.

This is fucking retarded. One is a negative right and the other is a positive right (aka meme), which is why it's viewed differently, nothing to do with state's monopoly on violence.

> anarchist

>Denying somebody gibs is violence
Imagine a nigger suing you because you didn’t empty your wallet while they were mugging you, top kek

Subtle communist thread detected
Universal health care is a tax payer funded system
How is it a good idea to charge tax payers for the health care of druggies and fatties?

>The argument made by him and another leftist was that violence isn't something involving intention or aggression.
Yes it is.
>Colloquially it's used in a descriptive way or is used as a more severe version of "harm." So, if someone denies someone in need medical services they are indirectly harming that person.
He should bust out the dictionary then because he's badly abusing the English language.

>denying healthcare
When has this happened? There's no law that allows healthcare providers to deny care. In fact, there are laws requiring the ER and other first line providers to administer care regardless of the ability to pay

What they really mean is that intelligent people have denied the socialists the ability to get free healthcare, because it results in the destruction of the healthcare system and everyone suffers.

>you're more or less denied quality health care.
NEVERMIND ALL THE 100% FREE CHARITABLY FUNDED CHILDRENS HOSPITALS, NEVERMIND THAT NO HUMAN IN THE USA CAN BE DENIED CARE AT AN ER EVEN IF THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, NEVERMIND LITERALLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS NORMAL PEOPLE DONATE TO PAY FOR YOU LAZY FUCKS TO SURVIVE AT ALL
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I don't get it

This thread was started by a leftist to subtly make arguments for their dumb ideology.

Socialists have won in America anyway. We have:

(1) Medicaid for poor people
(2) Medicare for old people
(3) Hospitals do not deny ER patients

So if you make enough money to not qualify for Medicaid, you have to pay your own doctor bills. Lazy socialists hate this because it leaves them with less money to buy a nice house or car.

So when a socialist is asking for universal healthcare in the U.S., he's actually asking for taxpayers to cover his medical expenses so he can live a life of luxury by having more spending power elsewhere.

Fuck off.

Its not even funny

>you're more or less denied quality health care

Wow, already the goal posts shift. Fucking quality there, lad.

It's deeply rooted in leftist doubletalk.

This is how it goes: Leftists realize their ideas (eg. exoneration of street violence) are unpopular and their enemies' ideas (eg. not taxing the middle class to death for public welfare) and they redefine what the words mean. So to a leftist, violence isn't violence, but rather not paying thousands of dollars for a crackhead's fifth liver transplant is violence.

Maybe there are some people moronic enough to fall for the old switcheroo, but I really pity anyone this dumb.

>if someone denies someone in need medical services they are indirectly harming that person.

We can turn this around. Advocating for open borders is an act of violence.

>refugee kills/rapes someone
>the victim was violently acted upon by every single open borders advocate

Someone denieing mefree transportation to my ill relative is causing me emotiomal harm. A farm owner refusing to give some of his food to an empoverished bum who refuses to work is causing him harm.

You cant ask for others to service you and claim denial is harm since its never going to stop

>denying people healthcare is violence

How exactly do you provide healthcare through govt without violence?

Can't use taxes, which are enforced by violence. Can't use charity, because that's not govt. Can't force doctors or pharma companies via govt, because that's enforced by violence.

I see it as a bad example of a true premise. The government can lock you up if you don’t pay them money, but if you were to run a business that way, people would see you as a monster. Debter’s prison is illegal- unless you’re the government.

I have a nursing license.

You want me to work for free to benefit you.

If the US federal government was supplying nurses to work for you, it would not hire me because I am a white male and the federal government openly discriminates against White Men-- that is equality!

While I can provide top notch healthcare, an black or a jew (same thing) never will.

I wouldn't mind seeing you commies receiving "free" healthcare form niggers (because they will kill you) but I don't want to pay for it!

Why would an anarchist want the government to provide healthcare?

To the commies, the real act of violence is telling them the plain unvarnished truth.

That's not what they're trying to express.

Commies don't believe in private property (because they are deadbeats) so they see everything in society as belonging to them. If they break someone's windows "Why are you mad, I just broke windows that belong to everyone!". If they steal a TV "hey, this TV belongs to everyone, you have 2 and I have none so I deserve it!" By this same logic they see services like healthcare as belonging to everyone, and they get upset when they realize they don't have free access to it.

>Why would an anarchist want the government to provide healthcare?
>ancap
>''I demand no government!''
>''I also demand free stuff from the government!''

They can't even see it.

>Commies don't believe in private property (because they are deadbeats) so they see everything in society as belonging to them. If they break someone's windows "Why are you mad, I just broke windows that belong to everyone!". If they steal a TV "hey, this TV belongs to everyone, you have 2 and I have none so I deserve it!" By this same logic they see services like healthcare as belonging to everyone, and they get upset when they realize they don't have free access to it.

Never let a commie stay in your home because you felt sorry for them.

Don't even bother asking me why I know this.

Why do you know this?

>not paying thousands of dollars for a crackhead's fifth liver transplant is violence.

At a hospital in Houston, Texas a leftist doctor there killed a white man on the transplant list by not giving him a liver, but giving it to a poor illegal mexican instead, and the illegal continued to abuse drugs and died shortly after the transplant.

Another leftist doctor in the ER gave the entire blood supply (of one blood type) to a mexican gang banger who was bleeding to death from stab wounds, and he died anyway; and so did every patient after him that needed a transfusion of that blood type to stay alive. That was at the main trauma center in Houston. Several patients died because of that.

commies kill.

>denying healthcare
lol

>Why do you know this?

How did you find the Internet?

Pretty self explanatory, the problem lies not with the the understanding of the message but with its lengthy made badly expression as well as its flawed view on the nature of violence and morality.

The state has a monopoly on violence. Thats why punching communists is viewed as violent but putting people in Gulags is not

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>Lefty meme:
Fourteen paragraphs of text followed by two diagrams that explain said text.
>Jow Forums meme:
Kill all niggers lol XD

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See. see this post right here, this is why the political system in every country is a fucking lie

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>unless you're extremely wealthy or work for a company in a very high level position you're more or less denied quality health care.

The discussion on the classified medical technology that has been denied to ordinary people revealed that the advanced medical technology is available to:

executives of military contractors (the people who classified the tech)

high ranking officers in the pentagon (the people who approved the classification.

members of congress (the people who supplied our tax dollars to develop the tech)

and (((celebrates)))

Since the discussion began, 50 examples of classified medical devices have suddenly been released, but not the really important stuff.

>At a hospital in Houston, Texas a leftist doctor [...]
Doctors don't decide who gets a transplant and who doesn't. A doctor will request their patient gets put on the list and argue for position. Ultimately a committee decides if someone gets an organ over someone else. Usually, drug use completely junks you from any kind of transplant unless the committee allows it. So it wasn't just the doctor who recommended it but the entire committee who allowed it.

>Another leftist doctor in the ER gave the entire blood supply [...]
My question is why wasn't this person put into surgery or have their wounds cauterized to slow the bleeding? That just screams incompetent intern whose first reaction was to use a suture kit as opposed to more serious measures and just pissed away blood.

I barely remember because I was like 10. I believe it was my brother when we first got internet in like 2002.

>anarchist
>non-voluntarily healthcare
Those two don't go together, my friend

>>Lefty meme:
>Fourteen paragraphs of text followed by two diagrams that explain said text.

A leftist meme is total jewish pilpul.

They must first construct an alternative reality, then prove that their twisted logic agrees with that alternative reality.

A real meme is the simple plain truth.

the truth to a jew is like a cross to a vampire.

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>be anarchist
>don't want the State to exist
>but also want the State to fund healthcare
>and you also want the State to implement Orwellian censorship so everyone has to agree with your views on social issues, which are part of a CIA psyop dating back to the '50s

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It IS gibberish, as is all leftist ideology. As you have observed, the left can't meme because leftist dogma is necessarily contrary to objective reality, and therefore their ideas can't be easily relayed without either a ton of explanation, or a great deal of preconceived contradictory ideas about the world.

Why do you come back to your terrible post and ignore everyone dumping on your points to just address a few comments?

There is a simple explanation: commies are idiots!

>transplant
The commie doctor declared it an emergency (a liver had just been removed from a fresh body) chose the patient himself and did not consult with the committee (because the committee would have said "No").
What he did can actually be considered a crime, and the same with the below example.

>gang banger bleeding to death
As I stated above, commies are idiots.
The real doctors were enraged, and it only got worse as totally savable patients died from lack of blood.

>I barely remember getting on the Internet because I was only 10

That explains it, my son was one and a half when he began to navigate through kids websites on the Internet; he remembers that.

Yes, jewish communist propaganda has to be total bullshit because the truth is counter-semitic.

So is:

history
science
math
factual evidence
reality

By this definition of violence every three seconds or whatever you murder an African.
The more resources I accumulate the more Africans I murder through inaction.
Thanks for motivating me to succeed.

Those weren't my points. If you learned proper reading comprehension I explained that it made sense by the logic of the people I acquired the meme of. People being retarded and acting like I said it and wholeheartedly believed it isn't my problem. I also don't have an obligation to reply to shit I don't feel like replying to.

I swear this board gets dumber every year.

>Transplant
>Blood waste
Oof. Did either "doctor" at least face fucking punishment?

>No ones denied medical care in the US.

An illegal invader, nigger, or commie deadbeat all get free healthcare (it is not free, white men with jobs pay for it).

A white man with a job, but no medical insurance, will get turned away.

I witnessed an employed white man with a broken ankle who needed surgery (an ORIF) or else he would never walk again (that is a medical emergency).

He was turned away from the county hospital (it operates on our tax dollars).

Don't forget get about him, I never will.

>Gibs me dats for free
>Gotta smash that raycis honkey window

Your friend is not an anarchist, hes a nigger in disguise

>Did either "doctor" at least face fucking punishment?

No, and as long as a "doctor" is either a jew or a nigger (same thing) they will never be held accountable for their actions-- that is how the jewish medical mafia operates.

>the state is the one denying people health care
Are anarchists always this retarded?

Not giving a worthless nigger "free" healthcare is violence.

Taking food away from farmers, and using that food to feed worthless niggers, while the farmers who grew the food starve, is just a peaceful loving redistribution of wealth.

It is actually White Genocide, and the jew is behind it.

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Enforcing taxes to pay for healthcare at the point of a gun is state violence

But you did make a really stupid point. It was called out by multiple people.

The only point I made and claimed as my own was that the left cannot meme and used the posted picture as an example. It's not my fault people ignored that is simply chose to believe that I accepted the logic of or believed in what the posted pic said. I simply stated that I was explained the logic of the pic by the poster of it and did not imply, hint, or claim I accepted it or believed it. To one poster I explained the logic told to me and made sure to point out that it was someone else's logic and not my own.

Thus, my original point stands. You and many others within the thread failed to show basic reading comprehension and show your lack of basic education.