>For the rest The article is still pretty fresh and I haven't found one in English yet (not even EL PAÍS has published one), but here's the drift: >AMLO sends letter to Felipe VI of Spain >Asks him to recognize and apologize for atrocities commited during conquest times >2021 marks 500 years of the Conquest of México-Tenochtitlan (and the Mexica/Aztec Empire) >AMLO wants to turn it into the "Year of the Great Mexico-Spain Reconciliation" >Says Mexico will never ask for economic recompensation and is open to apologizing accordingly for similar acts against Spainiards, but reconciliation must start with Spain's apology
What does Jow Forums think of this? Pants-on-head retarded or big dick energy?
Lastly, for my Hispanic bros (European or Latin American): ¿Creen que es posible esta "reconciliación"? ¿Les parece deseable o benéfica de algún modo? ¿Creen que este camino es el correcto?
So he was elected on a platform of leftism, finds that he's having difficulty getting anything done in that regard, and is falling back on idpol whining to make up for it? Based
Jace Torres
WE
Chase Taylor
the first conquistadores were merely some dozen. the tens of thousands of allies they gathered from angry tribes being dominated by the aztecs were prolly the biggest factor in the downfall of teotihuacan.
Josiah Wilson
really wow
Owen Green
This, spain did nothing wrong
Aaron Jenkins
The ghost of Queen Isabella says "Eat a dick, nigga"
Levi Hughes
os bumpeare
Jose Torres
What are you beaners up to? Are you trying to get into Europe through Spain, or something?
Carter Anderson
>AMLO wants to turn it into the "Year of the Great Mexico-Spain Reconciliation" Are we currently enemies or what? we haven't had bad relations with Spain for quite some time, we aren't as close as UK-USA but we sure as hell are not enemies, hell not even rivals.
Chase Price
playingitbythebook.exe
We all know the biggest factors in the downfall of Teotihuacan were the illnesses brought in from Europe; that's now what we're discussing here. Spaniards killed, raped, enslaved, and destroyed the legacy of indigenous peoples who received them more or less in open arms (refer to ). As a consequence, , relations between Mexico and Spain have never been the best. I think we could all agree that they could be better. Should they, though?
Grathiath
Liam Wood
Fucking commie faggot
Jackson Kelly
Didn't France conquer your ass too? You gonna ask reparations from them too?
Brayden Kelly
>burgereducation.jpg >mfw no face
Ryder Mitchell
Spaniards were retards tho. All that gold they stole in 1500 and it was lost merely 100 years later due to inflation. Now they will be fucked after Brexit, maybe even double fucked if Catalonians get further pissed
Chase Carter
France instituted a literal monarch that ruled over your country
William Collins
He should ask for the apology in the Aztec language. Oh, wait, that's right, he's asking for it in Spanish.
>When we got there they were literally eating each other. >They didn't use the wheel beyond little toys >We managed to conquer them with a handful of men. >And we took the gold because they weren't using it anyway and we needed it. >Spain NEVER HAD COLONIES, all territories were considered to be Spain and all its inhabitants had the same rights and duties as any other Spaniard. I don't think we owe them an apology, they owe us a thank you note if anything.
>A Castizo president in a country with a Spanish descended ruling class demand an apology from Spain on behalf of an irrelevant nearly dead pre Columbian culture That both sides descendants brutalized.
Absolute nonsense
Chase Hall
>>Says Mexico will never ask for economic recompensation and is open to apologizing accordingly for similar acts against Spainiards, but reconciliation must start with Spain's apology
This is actually how to go about reconcilliation. Not demands for Gibs and insulting the other party. It also means seeing your own part in the atrocities as well. I respek AMLO for this.
I think asking that is as bad as niggers asking reparations for muh slavery. Shame AMLO, shame.
Oliver Gomez
Because winners always write the truth, right? Everything is suspect. Demean your enemy, remove any possible sympathy people can have for them.
The United States would bitch slap Spain back to the stone age.
Benjamin Brown
Mexicans are as much children of those conquerors as spaniards are.
Ethan Ramirez
It's a scam. What he's doing is getting Spain to admit fault with promises of not seeking compensation. Five to ten years later, Mexico will then start making demands about how they're owed compensation because Spain admitted that they committed atrocities.
Jason Lewis
that idiot is saying we do not have a good relationship with Spain because he says so
Owen Bennett
this is basically how mexicans operate in the US so I don't see how it would be any different with Spain
Brody Rodriguez
>indios feeling confident eyy fuck u gringo! apologize to me right now imperialist! viva la revolucion! >indios poor again plsplspls gringo gibe moni... onions muy muy pobre :D
Joseph Russell
Thanks to Spain am 80% white fuck that kike commie faggot
Grayson Reed
AMLO CSN SUCK MY CONQUISTADOR BALLS
Eli Kelly
The Aztec deserved to be wiped out
Luke Jenkins
Do you know that my gf made that pic?
Jacob Carter
They saw it worked with the Jews so effectively and think they can pull it off.
The absurdity of this is that the descendants of the Spaniards are now the wealthy Aristocrats that live in Mexico now.
The Spanish King must apologize for nothing and even seek a revival of the Royal Spanish Empire.
Zachary Garcia
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Colton Torres
This in a nutshell, who the fuck is gonna take the apology? Chiapas? We've been shitting on them hard until recently Besides, Spainards were the cultural heroes and my true kings are the habsburgs >tfw we (actually it was the Masons with help from the US) killed Maximiliano
It’s the stupidest thing ever. Native Americans discovered Europe. And traded. Europe later sought help.
It’s like Mexico asking the Philippines and Japan to apologize for Mexicos naval power at the time.
Leo Wood
fuck off. we've already shown in the past that we dont give a shit about the conquista anymore. fuck these political shows and fuck the indigenista idpol these commies are trying to push. we got more serious shit to be concerned about.
>reconciliacion el pais no tiene malas relaciones diplomaticas con españa. esto es solo un show politico de los rojillos de mierda en el gobierno nacional para intentar conectarse con los rojillos de mierda en el gobierno español.
>benefica por supuesto que va a tener un beneficio. del tipo politico. que mejor manera de empujar su cochina agenda de socialismo moral que con el respaldo de un gobierno (que se percibe como) primermundista?
>camino correcto el unico camino correcto para mexico y latinoamerica es tener a los rojillos debajo de las botas. hasta entonces, seguiremos en caida libre en el profundo agujero del tercermundismo.
I dont care what this pendejo populista AMLO said . Spain teach us Probably the 80% of evrething we know . We owe them .
Jason Martin
Sometimes it’s good not to be proud of something because they’ll hold it against. My father is from Alabama and is a Spanish confessor. He gets pissed off when white people whom have never lived there several generations ago. Get proud of his land. However he realizes they are only proud of him or being related to his ancestor.
Levi Sanders
I remember Mexianons cheering for AMLO and even made pepes, now I only see their flags shitting on him.
lol what a fucking cuck latin americans can claim their "indigenous heritage" or whatever that means but declaring yourself but this is pure revisionist shit Playing the blame game while being the byproduct of a conquest, not the conquered themselves, is the most cringe thing any foreign ministry can do.
I feel bad for you mexicans, at least we're on our way to purge revisionism here
Nathaniel Ward
Didnt they try to recall Cortez when they learned what he was doing? Isnt that partly where the phrase "burn your boats" comes from where he passed the Rubicon and became a disavowed marauder?
Camden Bell
BASED AMLO :v
Justin Cook
Im conflicted if I want unity with latin americans or a divorce.
I believe we already have a pretty good relationship with mexicans regardless of what that guy who honestly i have no fuckin clue who he is says. At the very least, not a single mexican i've ever encountered (and i've encountered and met hundreds) ever mentioned anything about the conquista or was mad about it. Quit the opposite.
So, i believe this is pointless. The king will not apologize for it because we believe we didn't do wrong.
based and conquistapilled
Joshua Lopez
The absolute state of this faggot, show your face indio if you are such a pure-blooded mexica.
Lincoln Phillips
I respect him more now he probably has a huge dick
Cameron Myers
This fucking dude is Spanish and Austrian, the ethnicity of the people that conquered Mexico and the ethnicity of the king who ruled Spain at the time of it's conquest. Why doesn't he spread his butthole(and wallet) apologizing?
they hated him for siding with the Native tribes and the natives actually joined him in a lawsuit against the guy who ruled in his absence. Unless you get your history from Howard Zinn I suppose
Grayson Miller
>Once again the privileged anons don't get it. We so white right boys? Also fuck the Spainjews.
Aztecs were actually a bunch of bloodthirsty savages which is one of the primary reasons it was so easy for Spain to take over Mexico. They constantly raided their neighbors and subjects for slaves to sacrifice and when Spain rolled in with just a couple hundred men those neighbors and subjects saw an opportunity to overthrow the Aztecs and joined-in en-masse with the Spanish.
Robert Bell
Why not? They share our blood and language, and used to be part of the same empire but they have undesirable elements that should be removed to have suitable people.
Julian Cox
Tejano here, when is mexico gonna apologize for their authoritarian murder of Texans and persecution of Tejanos for years under Santa Ana?
Absolute stupid non consequential smoke screen to distract people from real stuff.
Joshua Gonzalez
That's fuckin sweet. And even less reason for Spain to apologize
Sebastian Hill
>If you want to destroy an empire, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them the endless immensity of enemy crimes
Elijah Wright
Damn I like him but this is a wrong for him nobody cares PG
Adam Anderson
I'm sorry Spain bros, I'm ashamed of having this idiot as a president
Grayson Sullivan
t. Niños solla
Acuerdense de darle rt a chumel y seguir a la dresser par de jotitos
Wyatt Rodriguez
Prefiero soya que chairo
Alexander Morris
>...The same childhood friend reported in a letter that Columbus had provided one of the captured indigenous women to him. He wrote, "While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked-as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But-to cut a long story short-I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores."
Jose Rodriguez
wtf I hate el peje now
Samuel Martinez
pinche indios
Oliver Cox
me vale 3 kilos de verga si son blancos. indio y orgulloso
Asher Sanchez
"Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States" -Porfirio Díaz
The communist block in Latin America is getting stronger and neither can Bolsonaro or Trump stop it if it already controls Mexico (top priority for US and America's strategy), (((The Atlatomulco lodge and the great Eastern of Charleston and New Orleans))) took absolute control of Mexico since the downfall of the second Empire
I'll make a thread about the Mexican and American tragedy, I won't waste it on this thread, but keep an eye out for me within a few hours (...)
You know our whole country is based on the idea of being conquered, right? So of course we have always had some kind of deep-seeded inferiority complex. This is why whenever a Mexican does something (extraordinary) they are shilled non-stop to the rest of the population as to say: "Look, We aren't completely idiots!" It's sad to see it. It's like black people being rewarded for the most mundane things like reading or parenting. We behave like that because our society is brought up like that.
It is an endless chain of self-loathing and we people don't put a stop to it because it benefit us, and it benefits foreigners to exploit us.
I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT HOW WE ARE ALWAYS AMAZED WHENEVER WE SEE A WHITE PERSON. And don't tell me you haven't realized, user. You would be lying.
Lo único que queda es nuestro propio deseo de superación. Por que colectivamente el Mexicano promedio no aspira a nada. Hace alusión a la cultura del vale madrismo.
>guy is populist > majority of mexican people are illiterate nativists
It's obvious that he will not give a shit about screwing up our relationship with Spain as they are a minor player in today's international politics. He is pandering to his base. The end.
Levi Miller
Good god, I have boner now
Samuel Baker
> A superior civilization conquers an inferior civilization > New Spain recovers population and becomes a prosperous colony for both colonists and natives > New Spain gets independence and becomes Mexico > around 200 years after independence Mexico blames Spain for modern economic and social problems
Jordan Hernandez
Burning your own boats is a staple of naval invasions throughout history. It removes the possibility of retreat so your men know that they MUST fight or die, as they have nowhere to run
Hunter Miller
>getting a boner reading how one of your ancestors was tortured and raped Cuck
Sebastian Harris
This Mayans never "vanished", they just assimilated covertly into Aztec society and ruined them from within. I've had a few workers who look like Mayans, they're like 5.8ft tops and have stocky bodies but do great work. Their brain doesn't freeze either unlike other races from South America. But all other tribes joined the Spanish.
Adam Robinson
Ayy el indio se ardio, hechese pomada en la colita
Joseph Gutierrez
Fucking retarded subhuman, how about the goobernment aplogizing for the millions killed by their unchecked greed and stupidity instead
Grayson Lewis
Fucking bean, who fucking cares. Go cry somewhere else you rape babies.
Liam Taylor
>Indio Ya quisieras, pendejo. Projéctate más en otros al llamarlos indios y mostrar tú complejo de inferioridad, haha.
Ethan Adams
You seriously believe Moctezuma didn't do awful shit to his whores?