I want to leave this fucking country. Argentina has no hope of improving and things are most certainly going to get worse.
This country is condemned to be a left wing third world shithole full of brown people.
Anyone here have any experience emigrating? I plan to go to Italy as I already have citizenship and know the language.
Problem is I only have a law degree, which is pretty much useless outside of this shithole
I want to leave this fucking country...
WHAT IS YOUR STUPID GOVERNMENT DOING. WHATEVER IT IS, TELL THE WORLD AND HUMILIATE THEM.
ARE THEY OPENING THEIR LEGS FOR THE WESTERN WAR MACHINE WHO CREATE SUCH GRIEF ABROAD THAT ALL PERSONS MUST MIGRATE?
BY ANY CHANCE.
uffff
>t.overprivileged petit-bourg kike
Kill yourself. It's the only way.
Do what a lawyer friend of mine did, certify in Spain to practice law, then you can move to Italy (he moved to Frankfurt, where he works for latin american companies setting up shop in Europe. He married a big tiddy kraut, owns a small beer shop on the side. Look into it, maybe you can even get an Erasmus scholarship.
The only governmets we have known for the last 80 years are international banking serving cucks and venezuela tier shitskin breeding leftists
There is no hope. If there was some way to fix this country I would stay. There isn't
>no hope of improving and things are most certainly going to get worse.
>This country is condemned to be a left wing third world shithole full of brown people
ya... thats the whole world at this point
That's a good idea as any, though I wish I had studied a more international career, like computer science. At 29 I think it's too late to study a new career, though I wouldn't like to stay in argentina more years than necesary though
haha, you spent your life trying to master the laws of a country your ultimately rejected. Ironic. Best of luck to you. I don't see why your law degree won't be useful in Italy. They are certainly having a little redpill revolt but my overall experience is that they are corrupt and you can't trust anyone. Your experience might be different but as a lawyer, you might feel at home
You live in one of the best quality of life first world countries.
You don't know the hopelessness of living in a third world shithole.
You don't know how good you have it
come to america before trump built the wall...hurry up
The certification doesn't take as long as a career. My friend specialized in intellectual property, author rights that kind of thing. International law masters wouldn't hurt your cause. You already speak Italian and can easily move there if your grandpas were Italian, you have good chances.
I'm not going to live as a illegal scum if I can live in italy as a full citizen.
Btw, met many Argies in Netherlands, they're doing fine, I sensed that the Queen being argentinian boosted up your status there.
i work in the oil industry and still have a really hard time trying to emigrate. apparently it's only easy for unskilled third worlders
Why would you want to emigrate from the US?
if you're under 50 it's not too late to study a new career. I worked with a lawyer who started studying law at 45. the world is yours user.
We lose the good ones and get stuck with Rosa Del Toro Torez Mipaza with 12 fucking kids. For fucks sake.
haha fucking negro, you guys deserve all the shit you have for being so fucking annoying
It will happen soon to us but who cares
Try invading the Falkland Islands again
The British are to concerned with brexit to care
Kek.
And that's a shame. I would love to move to the US and live in the pacific north west, going hunting with muh guns every weekend, but alas, it is not to be
>It will happen soon to us but who cares
explain
I never cared to much about muh malvinas, but now I'm actually glad that at least those islands were spared from being yet another part of latin america
why not move to patagonia? it's seems like heaven there. i'd pay a lot to escape my shithole
the entire world is a leftwing brown shithole. start rebelling in your own turf. thats what im gunna do at least
a number of reasons. i want new experiences. maybe i'll be happier somewhere else. i don't really have anything tying me down here
Moors were brown.
Well, if my european exodus fails that's plan B.
Avoid anything beneath the tropic of cancer except for australia and new zealand
They were. Your point?
The future generations are becoming faggots, they are gifting every resource to big countries, we are running out of water, inmigrants everywhere and no one will give a shit about the person next to them because laws suck plus corruption everywhere. We are becoming like the rest of SA shitty countries.
Them I recommend you begin to plan on emmigrating. Can you get any european citizenship?
Don't want to since Eurape is even worse, as I say things are becoming shitty but there is still plenty of time for it. If I would move (If I could) i would go to the south (Patagonia and shit) I have my bets that that place will be the last one affected by niggers and global waming
>Eurape is even worse
Let's not be delusional now. Not all of europe is paris, london or sweden
Italy is also a brown shithole tho
lurk moar bro
Why do all Argentinians and Uruguays insist on going to Italy first? At least go to the European country that makes the most money.
I want out of the West myself. I don't like being part of a society that doesn't value it's own race, culture, and language. Honestly working as a foreigner and having no friends or gf for the rest of my life is better than being apart of this society. The white race isn't worth saving anymore.
Move to europe and let euros pound your boipucci for money.
That's what most brazilians who move to Europe do anyways, as far as I know at least.
But can't you make money with a law degree in Argentina, save some, and then move somewhere cheaper and better living off some business you might open there?
That's what I'm doing in Brazil. I build houses to sell and save money (in dollars) to move somewhere else once this shithole collapses. Things LOOK like they might improve for now in this country, but I wouldn't count on it.
In my case it's because Italy is the only european country I could feel like I belong to.
And the fact that they are the ones that recognized me as a citizen makes me feel like I owe them a debt of gratitude. Call me an idiot if you want
There's still hope for the US. If the democrats get back in power though, then leave and leave fast
This
I'm pretty much an italian moor so I'd fit in. Can't be any worse than this dumpster
Just vote for Espert u fucking faggot nigger.
Don't come here, we don't want you
I hear NZ likes brown people
How did you guys get citizenship or residency permits? Descendants of Italian citizen?
>Descendants of Italian citizen?
Yes. It takes years but it's well worth the wait
It's relatively easy-ish to get european citizenship if you're a descendant by the father side.
I have german citizenship btw.
Yup, pretty much. It's either Italy or the US since I'm american born, but I dont feel like I deserve to be there
>I dont feel like I deserve to be there
Why?
Unironically based Leaf post.
OP, WTF do you think it will happen to Italy if people keep on fleeing all the time.
Now I don't know your situation but I'm planning to stay here and develop some land, outside I have NOTHING.
>but I dont feel like I deserve to be there
Sounds like typical white cuckery
Interesting, I'm also working on getting a Finnish residency permit since I have relatives living there and there is a remigration type program for people descended from a Finnish citizen, which intern means learning the very hard language my parents did not teach to me.
Never quit you fucking bitch. Quiting is what women, kike's and pussies do. Now get your ass back in there and Make Argentina great again maggot!
LOL It seems Peruvians are ruling Italy right now. LOLOLOLOL!
>international career
What about Industrial engineering?
I'm 29 already and the thought of spending another 6 years in this shithole depresses me
Its almost as only white colonialism was ever prosperous innit. Makes you think
Come on amigo, if you are living in Negros Aires, GTFO of there, in fact, avoid most big cities (over 500k) since most are contaminated, try to live in towns next to them.
Here in Santa Fe the little towns are heavens of peace, the only thing that's missing is jobs.
So it is nice to live like 20km away from the big urbanization and to go back to the little isles of peace.
Pic related, if we can get it back, travel cost will fall by half easily and the little towns could grow again.
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>Its almost as only white colonialism was ever prosperous innit
It's not only whites, there were some russians who migrated to Brazil and they did fine too!
You ain't going to leave Argentina ever if you are doing this same shit thread with the exact same questions since like 2 years in a row and overall if you use Jow Forums as a source to get information on where to move, my dude
Just saying i really opened my eyes to white supremacy that's all
Diego please, you will never be white, as you are a moorish mednigger mutt mixed with amerindian monkey.
but I never said I was white. I'm mixed too, my man.
>not forming a militia in the middle of patagonia and fighting the ZOG government
Patagonia is core ZOG turf. Not explicitly, but as behind the scenes type
In both sides, argentine and chilean. Look up israeli military going to Patagonia
You'll be competing with loads of younger people and millions of Eastern Europeans for entry-level work. Law degrees are completely useless in Italy, at least if you have zero connections. Many places will not hire you if you complete a stage/internship. I hope you have a lot of money, because you're going to be really poor. Also the north has a lot of niggers, sand niggers, Indians/Pakistanis, etc.
>Many places will not hire you if you complete a stage/internship
explain
Hold my beer, Dybala
>tfw the kikes managed to infiltrate even somewhere that's basically the end of the world
True suffering, I feel almost as bad for the argies as I feel about our country.
Most people here already have family living in Italy or Spain, or at least have had some grandparent being born there making getting citizenship much easier.
I'm already a Spanish citizen and thus an EU citizen despite that I've never in my life set a foot out of this country.
You'll have it worse if SHTF and your murdering niggers start to starve, they will chop heads off over a plate of feijoada.
They'll make you work for 6 months and pay peanuts for your time, then you'll be replaced by someone else. At least you'll have experience(tm)
Argie bro how long did getting the Italian citizenship take you? I qualify for the same ancestor shit (already looked into all the details) but I don’t want to cuck myself out of getting a security clearance since I’m a mechanical engineer. I don’t plan on trying to work outside the US anytime soon, but it would be nice to have options.
>implying I'm not already blackpilled enough to accept that kind of reality with open arms
Dying while fighting back agaist murdering niggers is better than living too see they become a dominant race.
It took me 6 months to gather all the dicumentation, 6 months to get the turn to deliver it at the consulate, another 6 months waiting for the date of the turn and then 2 years until I got my citizenship.
Realistically, you're looking at at least 2 and a half years considering you can get the documentation while getting a turn and waiting for the date.
I'd recommend you start by getting the turn because it can take months to get one
Did you use a service to do it or did you just research what all documents you needed? How much did it cost all together?
I contracted a service to gather the documents and translate them to italian. Didn't feel like taking any risks with something so important
Hmm alright thanks. I’ll have to get started on gathering all of the documents in case I want to move forward with it.
don't go live in europe and especially not in Italy you are just setting yourself up for failure. The Italian debt stack is like 8 times bigger than the america's 2008 debacle. The only thing holding Argentina back is the fact that your government is corrupt. Buenos Aires was like the 4th richest city in like 1900s for a reason. Argentina has room to grow and you don't have to worry when the EU collaspe/implodes. Buy yourself some good farmland or something near a river and pretend you are living in the midwest of america.
I have dual citizenship and ended up living in the Midwest. And kinda sucks.
Tried with Spain, but sucks even more.
Go to Europe. America is not open anymore
Argentinians white sucks too, look at argentinians white women for example, totally lefty, degenerate, anti-patriarcal abortion maniacs, too many narcissists between whites. Be careful about argentinians, they seems to be wonderful people but lack of emotional intelligence and we don't know the meaning of respect, humility
> neither do you.
Grass is always greener...
you are insulated from a lot more horrific events to come than becoming native to southern american when you can no longer travel. If you went to a different nation you would probably die when the system finally breaks down and loyalties are tested. Canada will be frozen waste with some cannibal tribes surviving the long winters by migrating south. Asia is entirely overpopulated. Africa is too raw and animalistic for a presumably anglo identity Argentinean who grew up idolizing messi and consuming european cultured entertainment along with american movies. You have a good climate and are in a strategically positioned place where war hasnt really made an impact on the psyche. They may be stupider and have different ideas about life but they are your neighbors and you would be wiser to learn a way to be content where you are in a brave new world than you would be in the industrial side of a brave new world where freedoms are far more restricting than simply having to routinely work with people of different skin tone when the world ends, the electricity goes out, and people are left without a UN mandate to feed eachother.
When that happens in our lifetime, which it will, would you rather spend a few years reclaiming your land then living in peace with your neighbors or live in a foreign land spending every day, in fear of being shot or killed because america has enough bullets to last a lifetime. South american nations, not so much.
It sounds to me like you dont really want to survive and see to the task of making the world a better place for your future offspring to inherit unlike ours who have set out to destroy what nature we have left and replace it with factory formed food filled with fake filler ingredients. Hes very ungrateful and sounds like a spoiled upper middle class mestizo.
Stay here
Why not go to Colombia? Seems like paradise to me. Also What is the sauce on Chile?
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todo el mundo esta hecho mierda vayas a donde vayas
si no eres judío o no tienes buenos contactos vas a mamar como todos los demás
I remember the day you boasted how awesome you were and how you paid your debt and becoming first world. Now my country is much better economically than yours
Ahhh the karma my dear
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they are still white tho lmao
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gotcha you now boy
Lmao, stay and fight faggot, you're a disgrace for the great nation we once had. Get the fuck out and go wash dishes in europe, everyone always cries about what their country is not doing for them but they never bother to wonder what they can do for their country.. Pray not for easier lives, pray to be stronger men.
You're pathetic.
>once had
>once
End of the discussion
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>I want to leave this country
How much mestizo blood do you have in you?
You can fuck off if your a pot bellied pygmy dart blower
الله أكبر
redpilled lad right here
>pot bellied pygmy dart blower
top kek
And how is that relevant? Slavs are as white as other europeans and Still Worth shit in any Western europe country
it's a joke of course is not relevant
that's the only argument now
Yeah this country is fucked but not beyond repair. Won’t you do something about it?