Ok Trumptards explain to me why we shouldn't have single payer healthcare, everyone who doesn't have healthcare dies...

Single payer does not prohibit you from having better healthcare from private insurers

Get a fucking JOB

>Get a fucking JOB

I do. I have insurance from my job. I pay fucking co-ops up the fucking ass.

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Money should not be spent to give everyone healthcare. That money should go to a good cause like.

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>That's not true at all though.

I disproved you with 45,000 people dying a year prior to Obamacare, and Obamacare is a Republican teir healthcare plan that is shit and doesn't cover everyone.

We had education roads and other services even before the 16th amendment was passed in 1913. So this argument is completely debunked.

16th amendment was the income tax amendment, in case anyone doesn't know. We literally had all of that even WITHOUT income taxes ever being legal.
No? That's not true at all though. It's actually the government that has MADE healthcare unaffordable. Free markets would literally create a world where healthcare was dirt cheap and the level of care would be superior too. But communists like you muck it up because you're unwilling to just fuck off and stop enslaving people. You're constantly trying to turn to the corrupt government, which constantly fucks us over, and inflict the entirety of humanity to its sociopathic rule. You're literally the archetype of metaphysical evil, but you yet like all evil you sit here with your fake moral proselytizations and posturing.

>It's actually the government that has MADE healthcare unaffordable.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET HEALTHCARE SYSTEM

DO YOU FUCKING RETARDED FUCKING FUCKERS REALIZE THERE IS A REASON WHY NO OTHER NATION ON EARTH HAS HAD THE SYSTEM WE HAVE HAD?

>I disproved you
No. A partisan article from the Huffington Post, describing a partisan study funded by a partisan thinktank doesn't prove anything and I don't think there's any rational human being left on this planet today, in this age of constant partisan hackery and bullshittery, that would think it does.

What does an income tax have to do with having single payer healthcare for all?

So there is ZERO people in America who are dying right fucking now because they don't have healthcare which means they don't get coverage and die.

That is what you are saying. You are saying the healthcare system prior to 2013 was just fine and nobody died under it and it didn't cost 3 trillion a year.

>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
But the reason we don't have a free market healthcare system is BECAUSE of you. Literally BECAUSE of you.
We don't GET to live in the paradise world that would objectively be created by Free Market Capitialism because people like you rail against it at every turn. You constantly want to write legislation, laws, and force everyone to bend to your will.
People like you, with YOUR philosophy, BUILT this system and the you have the nerve to turn around and use its flaws that YOU created as somehow justification that YOUR way is actually the best. It's called "failing up" and it's what people in Washington DC do all of the time.

"free" healthcare soaks the middle class. I'm sure middle America loves paying out the ass for an HMO. So people can be fat useless slobs and tell the gov't "gimme". Stop being losers and learn to take care of yourself.

Pretty sure there are people dying no matter what, lol. Pretty sure you're not going to stop people from dying either way.
And the point here is that no matter how much rhetoric about "saving the children's lives" you dress your position up in, it's still morally indefensible, because you're enslaving people. You're literally enslaving people and robbing from them. People like you destroy the world for the rest of us. It's not OUR fault if you can't accept the world for what it is and take care of yourself. It's not OUR job to take care of you, and the second you hold a gun to OUR heads and say "you're going to do what I tell you to do or you're gonna get thrown in prison" then you are the definition of objective metaphysical evil, period.

>But the reason we don't have a free market healthcare system is BECAUSE of you.

It's because it has never worked thought world history. Dude do you fucking realize why we have medicare and medicaid to begin with? It's because of the FAILURE of the private healthcare insurance industry to cover those people.

It's all going to illegal spics and fat fucks who shove 5000kcal a day anyways.

Fucking kill yourself commie fuck

>Pretty sure there are people dying no matter what, lol.

If someone has a sickness and doesn't have coverage, let me ask you retard. Which will get them better? Going to the doctor and getting checked or either getting sick and dying or going to an emergency room and having to pay out the ass that falls on the tax payer for that care.

>It's all going to illegal spics and fat fucks who shove 5000kcal a day anyways.

Do you think this doesn't happen already?

>Fucking kill yourself commie fuck

You know what I hope you get cancer and let's see that "free market" healthcare you love so much help you out.

You HOMO FAGGOT

>It's because it has never worked thought world history.
This argument makes no sense. When did free markets NOT work in world history? There is literally not a single case of a free market "not working" throughout the ENTIRETY of history. EVERY bad thing that has happened, historically speaking, has happened because governments got involved. Barring natural disasters and disease, obviously.

And what I'm saying here isn't a matter of opinion. This is pure absolute objective verifiable fact.

To be honest, judging from your posts, the anger, and your way of thinking, I'm kind of just guessing that you're a really impetuous teenager who hasn't thought his own ideas out. Probably you have a lot of emotional incontinence and should seek therapy and seek to fix your OWN problems before you try to impose your will upon others.

Natural selection.

The reason this world is so fucked up is we keep the idiots from killing themselves.

Just let them go.

>we continue to spend 3 trillion a year on healthcare
>643.000 americans bankrupted every year

B-but at least you ain't a commie faggot. MAGA

>When did free markets NOT work in world history?

It's called the history of the human race. Why do you think we organized into GOVERNMENTS thousands of years ago as a species?

Dude it doesn't matter. You don't get to ORDER people to "pay for this sick person's healthcare", don't you get that? You're not the lord and master of the planet. Period. You don't get to sit there, holding a gun to someone's head, and say "YOU PAY FOR THEM" that is called STEALING and ROBBERY and when you do it through the state in particular, you're literally destroying the rights and sovereignty of every human being who lives under the authority of that state. You are LITERALLY destroying and enslaving the entire human race, and yet you still have the nerve to sit here and talk to me as if you have some kind of "moral upper hand" and it's pathetic and it's the same short-sighted, hypocritical BS that people like you always spew.

>Natural selection.

You fucking realize Darwin didn't say this and species only survive thought mutual survival you fucking retard?

>Dude it doesn't matter.

NOTHING FUCKING MATTERS I GUESS SO KILL YOURSELF AND LET US LIVE OUR LIVES.

OK this isn't even coherent. Literally it isn't even coherent. This is just literally not even an answer at all.

>npc
why talk to npcs? This retard literally believes social healthcare is bad. unless he's a miljionaire, he's a fucking retard.

>Let us live our lives.
Dude the only person not respecting the rights of people to "live their own lives" is you. Not me. That's actually the fundamental difference between our philosophies. I believe in peoples rights to be free, and I believe in not infringing upon those rights just because I WANT some kind of material benefit from those people. You DONT. You LITERALLY believe in enslaving them and forcing them to provide you with materials and resources and you're trying to spin this into a situation where you're perceived as "the moral one" and it's not going to work.

>OK this isn't even coherent.

If free markets are real why would humans organize into governments? Why would welfare states exist to begin with?

>You are making millions of people die a lot sooner than they should be
Link the double blind study to prove this point.

>Dude the only person not respecting the rights of people to "live their own lives" is you

>if you don't take shitty fucking horrible private healthcare insurance that nobody likes and doesn't cover anything you are not letting us live our lives.

Really makes you think.

See

Again this just isn't even coherent. I've got to go. I've got other shit to do. Nice talking to you but I think you massively need to recognize that you have some obvious problems with emotional incontinence and maybe see a psychologist or something like that.

>huffpost
GTFO. An OPED piece is not a scientific study you fucking moron.

Sage

And I mean I am really NOT trying to be passive aggressive. I know it sounds it. But in talking to you literally all I can think about is how emotionally immature and incontinent you seem. You seem like someone whose "feelings" and immediate worldly desires completely override the rational parts of their brain, and it's scary because people like you too often dictate how the rest of us have to live in society. I really mean it when I say that I think you should seek therapy and I am really not trying to be passive aggressive or be a douche.

Anyway, I really do have to go. Peace.

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Says the normalnigger. Some of us wouldn’t be free under any government.

It’s like these faggots ain’t heared of bankruptcy. Hospital gets 10$ a month no matter how big the bill til you can do it again. Simple.

>Huffpost
Sage and try again retard

Democrats created a money sucking bureaucracy between insurance companies and the medical field, creating costs to go up. Now this is done, if they force everyone to pay for a bloated money pit, we all lose

The first thing that needs to be done is increase competition in the industries, not constrict it. That will make healthcare affordable and you won't have to rely on daddy government

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Because if any public money benefits white people instead of or in addition to the POC, corporations and Jews who already enjoy the benefits of it that would be socialism which would be bad because reasons.

>everyone who doesn’t have healthcare dies

Unless they’re a contributing member of society. It’s weird, if you have a job, a good community, take care of yourself and manage your finances, you don’t really worry about this. Which makes me believe that this bellyaching has less to do with morality and more to do with leeching.

I’m ok with leeches dying.

Because you're a retarded leftist faggot, OP, that's why.

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I like good health care, if pathetic fucks refuse to work for healthcare then fuck them. No one gives a fuck about anyone else so stop pretending you do you tranny faggot. If you’re to pathetic to help yourself, see Darwin’s theory of natural selection.