How does Jow Forums disagree with this?

I have seen a lot of heated discussions about politics. Many of them racial. Many of which seem to make little ground, because one or both sides come looking for a fight.

But what almost never fails, if just ONE side comes to the conversation with a true yearning to understand and be open and honest about how they feel, true progress in race relations almost invariably prevails. Literally all it takes is not being a prick and trying a little.

And yeah, occasionally this effort will go in vain and you'll face bigotry regardless. But even when that happens, observers on the other side will usually call out their own and have your back.

Try this: next time you see a black person, just talk to them. Talk to them as if they were your friend. At the very least you'll instantly realize how exaggerated and scared Jow Forums really is about nothing.

Or you can just call me a Jew and ignore everything I said, which is what a lot of you will do.

TLDR: Just talk to a minority, this board is all in its head.

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Which group attacks Tim Pool the most?
Protip: not right wingers

I'm talking about the philosophy behind his tweet. Jow Forums would call him cucked for it and you know it.

>Tim Pool gets more shit for what he says from left wingers
Basically they are the bigger problem.
So go lecture them, nigger. Fuck off.

"regardless of our race" There's the problem.

Race matters and whites need a country of their own. Who wants to live in peace in a mutt country that was stolen from whites. What's the point?

Thats my goal too. It can only happen if we give everybody the right to self determination in their own homelands.

This thread is not about Tim Pool. Can you read, or must I repeat what I literally just said?

This idiot went down to Milwaukee Riots and acted like he was one of the Brothers Damn near got shot. hes a fucking MORON. This bitch is just another you tube cunt making LARP "journo" clips . FUCK HIM

Talk don’t work
Can’t reason with niggers and retards

The point is there's no downside if what I'm saying is true.

Your Twitter is set to Japanese.

>Try this: next time you see a black person, just talk to them. Talk to them as if they were your friend. At the very least you'll instantly realize how exaggerated and scared Jow Forums really is about nothing.
Now explain to me why they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

Why don't minorities ever do this?
It's because white people are always considered at fault, they're expected to submit in front of non-whites, get on their knees and beg for forgiveness for existing.

user, we are a bored of peace tolerance and understanding.

They do. You just don't spend your time immersed in minority communities.

you cant just "get along" with people who blame you for all their problems and want to genocide your race while asking you for endless gimmedats. you cant. there is no common middle ground to be had with these people.

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>Your Twitter is set to Japanese.
そうなんですよね

>Now explain to me why they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Because they believe the policies of the Democrats will be most uplifting to the struggles within their community. It's not rocket science.

Childish and unrealistic. The problem with the "can't we all just get along" argument is that it takes EVERYONE to work. The vast majority of people disapprove of murder but that sure doesn't stop it.

Can you quote a single minority who has argued for genociding the white race?

So why not inspire others to do the same by engaging in it yourself? And yes, this does work. I've seen it with my own eyes. And no, it's not rare or something only a select number of minorities can do.

Cringe and bluepilled

America should be a white ethnostate and we shouldn’t feel bad about exploiting other countries. I don’t hate other races. I just don’t want them in the U.S.

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That's nice tim, but that's no different than the utopia of communists where everyone is equal and thus will work equally hard and be equally nice and equally respectful and equally intelligent.

If you want progress on race relations the only things that will have an actual effect is

An admission that races have group differences

And that tribalism is more natural than forced integration, and races feel most comfortable when surrounded by their own.

The media has ensured no group gets a middle ground to come together and discuss issues. If youre against immigration you’re painted as a nazi and the left is told they don’t have to debate with nazis. The media makes sure the liberals are fed a strict diet of propaganda and are steered away from any grey areas that might trigger some inquiry. Divide and conquer works because of the divide part of the equation. There has to be no meeting point or common land that bridges the divide because then America would discover they all pretty much want some form of immigration control and the right for people to have power of their communities

You already alluded to the fact that POC vote overwhelmingly Democrat, and I already gave my rejoinder.

>Because they believe the policies of the Democrats will be most uplifting to the struggles within their community.
As if a majority of blacks could explain what the Democratic Party stands for other than not being the GOP.
They are more religious than whites, why should they more likely be supporters of late-term abortion and gay marriage?
You are a troll.

/pol is mostly insane people, op

>You already alluded to the fact that POC vote overwhelmingly Democrat, and I already gave my rejoinder.
And a useless second reply which doesn't change that they are, for purely non-ideological and race-based reasons, a threat to conservatives and to America as a multi-party state.

I'm not interested in what is "natural". Why does this board appeal to nature so often? Murder is natural. Actually, literally everything is natural because it occurs within the natural world. I fail to see how this is persuasive at all.

Are you trying to get me to relax around blacks? Last time I did that, I ended up with a totaled truck.

>never again

Look at this picture.

Now, tell me your small percentage of anti-ethnocentric shitskins can make the others stop being ethnocentric.

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Naive drivel.

Jews. (((Noel Ignatiev))).

Its bad juju to explain jokes

Do you really think that is the case? Could the Jews (through talking and better understanding one another) end their hatred for the Palestinians?

>explain what the Democratic Party stands for other than not being than not being the GOP
That's an incredibly ignorant perception you have my friend. I'd recommend you watch the Breakfast Club talk to different Democratic candidates. Of course those are just a couple of black folk, but it will show you just how policy-centered a lot of black people are. Your assumption that they care nothing about policy is untrue.

>Can you quote a single minority who has argued for genociding the white race?

louderwithcrowder.com/yusra-khogali-white-people-genocide/

thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/30929-white-genocide-south-african-politician-kill-whites-their-women-and-their-children

bbc.com/news/world-europe-46821421

nytimes.com/2016/09/30/world/europe/joseph-harmatz-dead.html

10news.com/news/mysterious-filers-threaten-genocide-of-the-white-race


theres an example of a couple niggers(american and african), some jews, and some mexicans all calling for white genocide, after simple 5 seconds of google searching.

The picture seems silly. Obviously, when talking about "minorities" I mean in the context of America. If we were talking globally I would recognize whites are a minority. But you live in a society, in a country, right? Again, I don't get how this is relevant.

Fight like a wolf or die like a rabbit

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Every back person I’ve talked to agreed with me about how shitty niggers are.

>You just don't spend your time immersed in minority communities.
Ha. I lived in the ghetto of Orlando for a few years in my early 20s during my "homeless vet" stage. The only people around me were Puerto Ricans and blacks. I was ~the~ white guy in a 5 block radius. They don't. They HATE whitey dude. They tolerated me because it was just me, but that wouldn't keep them from talking about them not liking whitey infront of me. You have to understand, they think the whole reason they live in the ghetto as a collective is because of systematic white oppression. They think we don't want them in nice neighborhoods literally because of the color of their skin, and not because of all the baggage associated with it.

>be me
>be 20 watching history channel with rican, his whiteass ginger girlfriend, and nigger roommates
>section on rodney king riots
>both start whooping and gettin antsy
>"bruh I wish I was there cuhz, I'd be poppin off on crackas left and right"
>"Wtf?! dude im white fuck you. You'd pop off on me?"
>"yeah dude, if we were there in that time and place"
>"youre crazy, why?"
>"you dont understand man, you never will."
>"fuck you mean i dont understand, youre talking about being racist as fuck"
>white gf steps in, "user, we can never understand the issues and trials they face. You have to admit that whites are kinda the problem"
>"yall are fucking crazy.."
>move out end of month on the start of my redpill journey

Sure, there are individual minorities that you can get along with, on an individual basis. However, having a collective of them around that mentality, that benefit of the pack, mentality kicks in. Eventually they will do what is best for themselves and people like them, which means taking from and disenfranchising you.

>Could the Jews (through talking and better understanding one another) end their hatred for the Palestinians?
Absolutely. They certainly don't exactly converse with each other at all right now. They are separated by walls and every time they cross paths there seems to be violence. Yes, peaceful discussion between the groups would be the best thing for them.

Of course, it wouldn't remedy the situation overnight. But it would help over time because it would disseminate the illusions they have about each other.

Krigsgaldr sums it up nicely:

What am I supposed to do if I want to talk about peace and understanding
But you only understand the language of the sword?
What if I want to make you understand that the path you chose leads to downfall
But you only understand the language of the sword?
What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace, but you only understand the language of the sword?

We've let them into our nations and bent over backwards for them giving them opportunities they could never dream of in their home nations. We tried to make it work, for the better part of a century and look where we've ended up? They have caused crime rates to skyrocket and turn apart our societies. People never bothered to lock their doors in the 50s, today they'd be strangled and raped within the hour. We tried, they didn't. So now we stopped trying.

Simple.

>progress in race relations
I would like you to define your key terms.

I'm glad you've seen it with your own eyes in a group of 30 people. Let's go back to this nation of 360 million for a moment...

I would be willing to bet my life that most black people would not agree with that at all.

You have to use scientific reason to make your decisions. Some people are simply not fit to live in a civilized society. They must be excluded on the basis of merit. Human worth is something that can be measured objectively and blacks, inbred arabs and other shitskins fail the tests we give them.

Quae autem conventio Christi ad Belial, aut quae pars fideli cum infideli

I'm immersed in one and I can tell you that its no joy. Place is a pigsty- Muzzos & Africans think someone else will clean up after them an litter everywhere. Drive illegally, none of the shopkeepers are registered for tax purposes, many of the men sit at the coffee shop all day and only get up for call to prayer. All this subsidized by the whiteys . The problem with people like OP is that you would remove our right to associte with he we choose and not who you want us to.
Additionally many I have met stare with contempt at me (I'm white) and will not even acknowledge you if you say hello (which I no longer do).

Low trust community.

You are the piece of shit here OP, not me.

>in the context of America

America is going to become majority-Latino, and white nationalism is actively suppressed by the political and market zeitgeist here. Look at how fast Congress demonized Steve King.

This is literally because of neoliberals and leftists constantly shilling for open borders and suppressing white racial organization.

I want to fly to the moon and establish the first human moon colony.

I will do this by jumping really hard until I get to the moon.

Oh look it's another le reasonable centrist who can't see the forest for the trees.

>I would be willing to bet my life that most black people would not agree with that at all.

alright, go backpacking across africa, or even just spend a weekend hanging out in south side of chicago then you dumb, naive, piece of shit.

I’ve got two black friends that I regularly talk to. Both of them make jokes about race every once in a while, but for the most part, they’re fine. However, they’re not really the “Ghetto” kind of black, so maybe that makes a difference.

i care about things in tiers

the most significant tier is family + close friends
the next tier is my race
after that is a tier dedicated to myself and personal interests/hobbies
following that is state > distant friends > america > literally everything else i dont give a single shit about

this is the formula that most people operate by and have operated by for millenia
this is what works

trying to go against this is what is causing most of the problems we deal with in first world countries in modern times

You should have talked with them about it. Pushed them, but still have been understanding. If you were fully understanding of their struggle, I mean FULLY, like 100% imagine being born black in the ghetto and learning about the history of your race being enslaved, then approached them with that understanding and tried to convince them that not all of whitey is evil, I think they would at least think twice about doing that same judgement tomorrow.

I'm not saying it's easy or far from solved. But I'm saying white people never really try beyond virtue signalling. I get that whites in all white places pretend to care, but how many white people sit down with a black person and talk openly about race in a way that is understanding, honest, and open? You and I both know that number: 0. And honestly, black people would LOVE to have that conversation, I guarantee you. And both sides would learn a lot.

>I don't care what is natural

Yeah because it's not like our evolution has anything to do with how we live as a society today you dumbass. I'm not saying its good BECAUSE it's natural, I'm saying its natural, and the evidence shows that natural tendency we developed is socially preferable than going against it. Murdering indiscriminately may happen in nature, but it's not socially preferable. We already know that the more diversity you have, the less social cohesion there is. Think of the mounds of social issues that would instantly vanish if America was just white.

When he says "black people" he means suburban 30% white mutts who learned how to behave because they were surrounded by white people.
I'd love to see this twink have a jordan peterson trademarked reasonable discussion with some real niggas.

>My goal is to make sure the white majority is ruled by their minorities - Tim Pool

Why is that sentiment so hard to understand?

I don't want to be forced to live with non-whites, where do I go?

>this is what coastal liberals in white monocultures think
I readily talk to black people on a regular basis, you racist commie.

Not sure what you mean. Simply, healing the tension that currently exists between races, and making races feel at more one with another.

What I've witnessed is not some UFO. It's a key part of human nature. A "mind hack" past racism, if you will. People are more similar than you think. Out of the 100s I've seen it work on, and what works and what definitely does NOT work at bringing races together, yeah, I'm confident it could scale to 360 million.

I’d say ranking your race above yourself, moral compass, friends, country, etc isn’t very productive. Just more likely to corrupt your way of thinking, as you’ll just agree with people of the same race even if they’re wrong.

Trump is a kike

I'm sure your wife's gang bangs are vibrant and diverse...... But the idea that you can get everybody in the world to like one another is ridiculous. Prove me wrong and go stop the gang violence in Chicago with your magical stupidity

I don't need to go to a different country to know that the black community does not support genociding white people. The fact you even think that's a salient point proves how cloistered you have made yourself. The majority of black people are even apprehensive about affirmative action if it disenfranchises white people - and you think they literally would support killing all of them off? Your mind is somewhere else dude.

I think that every human being and any sentient life for that matter has intrinsic worth, call me crazy.

Africa Americans should have gotten their own state within the US and tried to rule themselves, like Haiti.

Samewise whites should let south western us be consumed by the invading Mexicans.

The united states is a failed concept. China will seige all of the Western world because while the sanctimous circle-jerk over leftist and rightist morality, China’s one party national socialism and ethnic homogeneity will solidify their power as the mongrelized West breaks apart.

You would defend fleas on rats and parasites. Nice ideology.

>I don't need to go to a different country to know that the black community does not support genociding white people. The fact you even think that's a salient point proves how cloistered you have made yourself. The majority of black people are even apprehensive about affirmative action if it disenfranchises white people - and you think they literally would support killing all of them off? Your mind is somewhere else dude.

i also said u can go to chicago's south side, where you'll get robbed, raped, and killed just for your skin color in the wrong neighborhood.

you're a delusional, close-minded, brainwashed cuck

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Black people don't want to have a "conversation" about race. They want to call whites oppressors and demand reparations for 600 trillion years of slavery. I think you're incredibly naïve.

>Just more likely to corrupt your way of thinking, as you’ll just agree with people of the same race even if they’re wrong.
this hierarchy just means the order and amount in which i care about other people/entities
it doesnt mean im subservient to them or have to agree with them or anything, in fact i usually dont
it just means that if im forced to choose between x and y, i have a system for resolving that conflict based on where those things fall in the internal hierarchy

i.e. if i had to sacrifice my race to protect my family, i would
if i had to sacrifice myself to save my race, i would
if i had to sacrifice my state's wellbeing for the sake of america, i would not
etc

What?

Parasites and Fleas are sentient.

Maybe you arent as smart as you think you are.

Also literally this. I lived two streets away from a major mosque a few years ago and every Friday was a fucking nightmare with hundreds of cars (including dozens if taxis, some stereotypes write themselves) clogging the streets and curbside parking and rude as fuck brownies barking at you in their guttural language if you look at them wrong.

Moved from there to a suburb in Ipswich where they settle a lot of the African migrants. Absolutely fucked place. Crime, poverty, low trust, everyone on edge, dirty and none of them work. A group of African mothers literally used to drop their kids at the primary school, and then throw down a blanket and sit on the corner beside the school until school finished. Absolute fucking bullshit.

Well, that does suck. Someone not even willing to talk to you is a problem. But if one of them would talk to you I'm sure their illusions about you would quickly fade, if you gave them a reason to believe in you.

Ha ha. No. Reasoning with people who just rationalized murdering you? That was not the time nor the place.

>just talk to the selcet minority that has adopted western norms and looks ok
>you will realise that this very very tiny percentage of all minorities who have already integrated are totally fine and on a superficial level you can hardly notice the difference
>see user ! that black guy in a suit is chill
>ignore the majority of coloured people
>ignore the tendencies that are well documented
>don't think about how coloured folk, when given not only the same opportunities but indeed many many benefits, (as a group, on average) still do worse than whites or jews or asians who are given zero special treatment

okay buddy
fuck off with your reddit spacing and your delusional lies

The world is bigger than you and your feelings. We live nice today becuae of what our race sacrificed and what they built. Do you not care about youre childrens future?

Funny how this larping faggot's big schtick is "discussion" yet he selectively responds to posts.
In his mind certain posts can be dismissed outright if they don't conform to his pre-set demands.
What he practices and what he preaches are two different things indeed. Just another phony here to save his hands in the air and tell you how to live while he does the opposite.

About this tweet? When whites won't be discriminated against by my government, then we'll talk.

About the guy? It's hilarious to see him being spat on by people more progressive than he is. We should all go Galt.

>a black person, just talk to them. Talk to them as if they were your friend.
lost

I acknowledge literally everything you would. You ready to backtrack while not acknowledging that you were wrong?

I acknowledge:

1) The over-extension of social justice, and their lust for demonizing white people
2) The double standard where it's often seen as "okay" to criticize white people, or where no reaction happens as a response
3) Many white male Dems are now having to explain why it's okay they are white men even running at all

I ALSO acknowledge:

1) That annoying, rage feeling you feel when one of the above 3 happens? That's what most black people have felt every day, and feel on steroids with this President.
2) Your response is extremely hypocritical given you are being just as much of an asshole to minorities in America by using racial slurs and childish humor at their expense
3) You cannot fight fire with fire, because it just makes the problem more precarious.

Those are PERFECT logical points that this board will never take seriously, instead just respond like children "HUHUH omg what a jew cuck HUHUH".

Iron and clay dont mix.

>But what almost never fails, if just ONE side comes to the conversation with a true yearning to understand and be open and honest about how they feel, true progress in race relations almost invariably prevails
if it almost never fails, how do you account for the fact that it almost always does? basic game theory makes a mockery out of this bullshit - which is why we're being taken advantage of and race relations are declining annually, and neither of those facts is changed by the state of my personal race relations, which are fine regardless since it's not like your bizarre fantasy of a board of people who could somehow avoid en masse having any kind of relationship with black people is even remotely plausible

your thread doesn't deserve to be bumped

I hope that goalpost is not too heavy for your onions-based metabolism. I care, y'know?

Fighting fire with fire is the only option we have left, white people are a minority in the world.

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How do you respectfully disagree with a parent who wants to mutilate his or her child's genitals? Where's the compromise on such an issue. Many issues can't be resolved through respectful discussion. One side must lose.

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it isn't mutually exclusive with a lot of mechanisms of Jow Forums

we can do that tweet with geographic separation.

S-O-Y is being replaced with "onions". Tbh, I expected some censorship, but this is stupid.

Just not true. I can show you black shows with black hosts that are very popular to black crowds where they do just that.

Didn't Tim Pool admit he's afraid of Whites (specifically what they'll do when they get sick of diversity)?

I believe that no one is too far gone, which is why I'm debating people on Jow Forums.

>but muh colonialization and muh white power and muh global white supremacist society
shit, i forgot, the quantity of white people holding power only matters when they're a majority

s, o, y (just the word), has been replaced too with "based" for me

>Individuals are nice this means there is no threat on the macro level
sorry faggot

>fully understanding of their struggle
I know their struggle. They're people who aren't able to compete with whites on average in the society we have created. They look around and see all of the amazing things whites do that they'd never be able to on their own. They look at white communities and see nice lawns, uniformed paint, streetlights that work, kids in clean clothes and they think it's just gifted to them from some magical privilege because of their skin. They sit there and think "fuck whitey, living in a nice community, while im here living in house falling in on itself and weeds all in the front lawn and dirty clothes on. they're oppressing us by not letting blacks afford those properties in those neighborhoods." They get full of envy it's unreal.

Also, I don't think you understand that having talks with a few nigger academics or one or two at the local MLK food mart is not the same as facing a community of them. You can always rationalize and reason with individuals, you can't do so with a mob. These mobs are inevitable in multicultural societies. It's a survival mechanism for yourself and your family, and by extension of that, your race and people who look similar to you. The people you have as Aristotle talked about, Philia with.

You, as a white man, go to Africa. Experience what they experience. Go into a bar and spot a white in a bar full of 50 people. Feel that spark, that connection, that unspoken bond of "we got each other". That's how niggers, ricans, jews, etc all minorities feel in a different place. They always have and look after each other.

I think you're just too idealistic user. It unfortunately is not so simple as having a constructive dialogue.

I can't think of anyone who would "force" you to do something like that.. but I along with others would encourage you to try for the greater good.

>l337
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