AG Barr does not have the authority to determine Trump's innocence or guilt. Only Congress has that power. Nothing in A.G. Barr's statement to Congress refutes that.
Hast thou buckled thyself up?
Look around... nothing but woods
Thomas Myers
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Logan Hernandez
AG BARR has done more in a week than session did in his entire tenant as AG
Dominic Morris
Barr's statement did not clear the President, it merely kept the President from flying off into conniptions for a few days.
DoJ loves dropping shit on Fridays, just sayin.
Ryan Lee
>crazy theory not one credible legal expert has claimed
Whoa, there, laddie. Settle down.
Aaron White
Only Congress has the power to judge a sitting President. The Attorney General can not judge a sitting President. Only Congress can do that.
Benjamin Williams
Maybe not technically, but he's the top fucking law enforcement official in the country and his opinion carries a good deal of weight. Any attempts at impeachment on the obstruction charge are DOA. Not only that, but we have all the information we need on the obstruction charge:
>Trump was angry that there was a foot-dragging investigation into a crime he did not commit
>He fired Comey for not moving it along
That is all that happened. Those are the facts. Your interpretation of those facts determines how you would vote on impeachment. Republicans will maintain that Trump had total authority to fire Comey and that there cannot be obstruction without an underlying crime. Nothing the Democrats may find can change this interpretation.
Lucas Cruz
What about Mueller, OP?
Luke Rivera
Yeah we'll see you on Friday then faggot. I love your very special original version of 'keep waiting.' Fresh...
Jace Diaz
Not only this but also, if there was a smoking gun so massive that it would cause enough Republicans to vote for impeachment, Mueller would have found it. You wouldn’t be able to cover that up.
Asher Thomas
True, also the Senate holds the trial in an impeachment. So it isn't going to happen.
Luke Scott
Nosenstein also signed off on it, and he signed one of the FISA warrants. Stop being a faggot OP.
Connor Wright
DoJ is not like the rest of us. They don't just talk. They released prepared statements. When they speak in public, they are reading a prepared statement. Every single word in a DoJ statement is there for a reason. There are no extra or unnecessary words. Their statements can often be highly misleading, but will always be factually correct, so you have to read them very carefully to understand their meaning.
Mueller didn't judge the President because that wasn't his job. Judging the President is up to Congress. Mueller just found all the facts. He is supposed to give them to Congress.
Nicholas James
The best part is they are demanding the report be released and all it is going to do is point the finger at the Obama administration. Dems are about to become Lot's wife!
Charles Johnson
Reminder that the glowniggers tortured this Russian qt for liking the 2nd Amendment to frame the NRA.
Also
>no evidence
What are they gonna run the trial on, bub?
Asher Long
Yes, yes, we can all argue semantics, too.
David Peterson
The Department of Justice does not have a say in these matters? You sure about that, kiddo?
Why did Mueller turn the report into the DOJ if that was the case?
Matthew Kelly
like the differences between collusion, conspiracy, espionage and treason? People often conflate them for some reason.
Nathan Long
Congress is gonna find jack shit and even if they do Dems don’t have the votes for impeachment
Nathan Hill
Will this be affecting supplies of The Bru???
Jeremiah Reed
At this point, Trump has to be the most vetted politician in history.
Asher Hernandez
Why would Barr lie in the summary when he has already himself acknowledged the fact that the full report is going to be released publicly? That literally makes no sense. And if he did lie, do you think Muller would just sit by quietly?
The libs are really looking like contenders for gold in mental gymnastics.
Chase Reed
ABSOLUTELY CLUTCHING
Hunter Cox
Probably
Charles Parker
cbsnews.com
tl;dr
He turned in the report to the AG, who is supposed to present a summary of Mueller's findings, which he allegedly did, however, Bars summary conflicts with known facts, principally; Barr states that nobody associated with the Trump campaign conspired with Russia during the 2016 campaign. However, Mueller has charges on Roger Stone that allege he was doing exactly that.
So expect it to start raining subpoenas in D.C. soon.
William Ramirez
Mueller cleared Trump on collision but passed obstruction to Barr. Barr immediately dropped obstruction. There's no trees for you to hide behind anymore, kike.
Andrew Phillips
>it-it-it can still happen! What about r-r-r-roger Stone???/
Just give it up m8
Jeremiah Foster
Not really.
Jackson Perez
I tried this shit and it's shit, just like the entire UK.
Chase Gomez
You just made a personal enemy of the entire Scots race.
Joshua Wood
>Only Congress has that power.
Cope-ahhhh
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Nathaniel Wright
Actually, after being the wife of a two term Governor of Arkansas, the wife of a two term President, a Senator from New York, Secretary of State, and a twice defeated Presidential candidate with forty years of being investigated by her political enemies, but ZERO indictments on herself, her family or close associates, the honor of most heavily vetted person on the planet is Mrs. Hillary Clinton.
Trump, on the other hand, Mueller only investigated Trump for 2 years and tapped out with 12 defendants pleading guilty to dozens of felonies, 199 indictments total, 3 dozen people still with warrants out for their arrests, and spawned off at least 19 separate State level investigations into the President, all his businesses and his family.
Carson Lewis
And did Mueller say he found evidence of any of that?
Carter Lopez
>allege
k
Justin Edwards
Roger is in jail because he brazenly lied. Nothing to do with Russia.
8/8 larp thread user
Adam Rivera
Fuck off discord tranny
Juan Turner
>most heavily vetted
You mean the most privileged member.
Jordan Wood
>the honor of most heavily vetted person on the planet is Mrs. Hillary Clinton.
>years of being investigated by her political enemies
Lucas Moore
>Mueller has charges on Roger Stone that allege he was doing exactly that.
Fuckoff shill
Justin King
We don't know yet. We are waiting for Barr to release the report to Congress, then for them to tell We The People what's in it.
Robert Watson
Aiden Sanchez
>mental gymnastics
You big dummy...
Chase Robinson
>You mean the most privileged member.
Excuse me?
Noah Butler
You're fucking dumb. If there is no collusion (which isn't even a real crime) how can there be obstruction of justice? What justice was there to obstruct? You idiots like to parrot shit without even understanding our legal system and how it works.
Evan Allen
The principal duties of the Attorney General are to:
Represent the United States in legal matters.
Supervise and direct the administration and operation of the offices, boards, divisions, and bureaus that comprise the Department.
Furnish advice and opinions, formal and informal, on legal matters to the President and the Cabinet and to the heads of the executive departments and agencies of the government, as provided by law.
Make recommendations to the President concerning appointments to federal judicial positions and to positions within the Department, including U.S. Attorneys and U.S. Marshals.
Represent or supervise the representation of the United States Government in the Supreme Court of the United States and all other courts, foreign and domestic, in which the United States is a party or has an interest as may be deemed appropriate.
Perform or supervise the performance of other duties required by statute or Executive Order
Kys
John Kelly
this isn't /b/, I thought we were here for a lively political discourse. No need to be insulting. I would never use Discord.
Austin Powell
Who said anything about collusion? Collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy and Espionage however...those are crimes.
Bentley Smith
Here’s his actual indictment.. You’re a misleading, prick, bastard.
lawfareblog.com
Elijah Jackson
Nothing in that list says "judge the President for high crimes and misdemeanors". The Constitution very specifically empowers Congress with that.
Owen Watson
>AG Barr does not have the authority to determine Trump's innocence or guilt
No, he's further up stream from that point. He can decide if there's even enough information to require a judgement of guilt or innocence. Which is what he did. Pelosi wouldn't be hedging her bets already if she had real suspicions that there is something solid enough in the report to impeach Trump. Trying too hard for something that isn't there is not a good look for the Dems right now, they need to listen to Pelosi and try and salvage what little respect they still have for the coming election season.
Parker Davis
lawfareblog.com
-DATE: 25 JANUARY 2019
>talkingpointsmemo.com
-DATE: 15 FEBRUARY 2019
That's three weeks later. You need to stay up to date with current events, my man. The facts on the ground have changed.
Lucas Phillips
So where's the proof? That's really the only thing I'm asking for. For 2 years I've been asking for it. Trump deserves to be impeached if he is guilty of it. But for some reason even after 2 years of investigation no one can find any evidence of espionage. None.
>Just you wait, it'll be in the Mueller report
>Wait, actually just wait a little longer. It's coming, don't you worry
It's such a broken record at this point.
Oliver Brown
Listen libtard, the whole Mueller team went absolutely crazy looking for anything to pin on Trump.... anything and still came up empty. I know that's gotta sting, but what if they start to seriously look at the malfeasance at the DOJ/FBI when they cooked up this half assed scheme to first prevent Trumps election and then try and remove him from office? And you know that leads straight to Obama.
Wyatt Cox
>The Constitution very specifically empowers Congress with that.
Where exactly?
archives.gov
Isaiah Adams
His indictment never changed, dipshit. And your articles are basically shit, leftist, fantasy porn
Samuel Thompson
According to some guy on Fox News, Mueller has 2 million pages of evidence. Sitting on Barr's desk is an approximately 700 page report about that evidence.
THE REPORT DRAWS NO CONCLUSIONS. That's not Mueller's job. Mueller went out and found the facts. He apparently has 2 million pages of facts. If Congress is going to fairly judge the President, they will need access to and guidance through the evidence
I understand your demand for proof, I want to see it too, but that isn't how law enforcement or the intelligence community works. You cant get a fair trial if in the middle of an investigation the cops keep running every bit of evidence they find past a news camera. We won't see the evidence until it is safe for us to do so, for Justice and National security reasons.
Cooper Powell
Your link is very misleading, and the difference of dates doesn't change what he was actually indicted on. There's a glaringly incorrect statement of facts in the link. The Internet Research Agency is the group accused of buying Facebook ads, not hacking the DNC. The hacking/Guccifer2.0 thing is a part of the GRU indictments, not IRA. GRU is never showing up in a case for obvious reasons, but surprisingly IRA has shown up to defend themselves even if Mueller doesn't want them to have the right of discovery because of "national security". Consciously uncoupling means he wants a public statement clarifying the two cases are not directly related.
Charles Hughes
Then let congress try to impeach and convict him. Oh yeah, that's never going to happen. You can't impeach a president just because you don't agree with his policies.
Thomas Jackson
The power of impeachment is granted to the House of Representatives under Constitutional law. In Article I, Section 2, the Constitution reads, “The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.” Impeachment relates to the removal of a Government official due to crimes committed while that individual was in office.
Colton Rivera
No, he has 2 million pages of DOCUMENTS, idiot. If he interviewed 100 people, and they had a 20 page transcript of each inter view, and EVERYTHING said vindicated Trump, that is NOT 2,000 pages of "evidence". You low IQ children would actually be funny if you weren't so stupid.
Hudson Brown
If the head of Concord would come to the U.S. and just speak to a judge for a few quick minutes, he could have all the discovery he could ever dream of!
Jordan Cox
>The power of impeachment is granted to the House of Representatives
It sure is. It's also a good way to destroy yourself politically if you make an unfeasible attempt and look like vindictive morons. Which is why Pelosi is trying to corral here short-bus of retards away from the ledge to focus on elections now.
David Cruz
>impeachment
>judge the President for high crimes and misdemeanors
You misleading prick.. Before impeachment high crimes and misdemeanors would have to be proven in a court, and AG Barr directs the courts.. you’re horrible at this
Isaiah Thompson
>Manafort
>10 felonies
That sounds real damning. Mueller must have Trump by the curlies I bet. Boy, I wonder what crimes he committed.
Ian Perry
Wrong wrong and wrong again.
Congress is free to have their own investigations and then make criminal referrals to the DOJ.
Congress doesn't get DOJ investigations and then determine the criminal referrals.
Also, the Senate DID hold their own investigation with democrat senators able to question and subpoena anyone they wanted...and guess what? Grassly report said zero Collison, zero anything.
You fucked up royally
Lincoln Allen
if everything they said vindicated Trump, then everything they said would be EVIDENCE he was innocent.
Barr doesn't get to decide the innocence or guilt of the President, any more than you or I do. Only Congress can do that. But they have to actually look at the evidence to decide his fate.
This ain't over yet, so stop getting yourselves all excited, or you will be too btfo to deal when the trials start.
Daniel Peterson
The court, for the President, is Congress.
Ryan Lopez
>The power of impeachment is granted to the House of Representatives under Constitutional law. In Article I, Section 2, the Constitution reads, “The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.” Impeachment relates to the removal of a Government official due to crimes committed while that individual was in office.
Noah Moore
Nah, sorry..
It’s the courts..
impeachment deals only with removal of someone from their position.. It make no bearing on guilt, and has a specific bar to meet before implementation.
Kevin Russell
>its 2 am in the states
>this fag is melting down in a thread by himself
>posting all his boomer memes
v cringe + copepilled
Isaiah Taylor
And no charges have been brought. Clinton's impeachment didn't happen until Ken Starr's report concluded he had committed perjury. Starr actually named a crime, Mueller has not.
Jace Torres
That is why they are free to do their own investigations. Go ahead and investigate, and watch how bad the optics are when there was an independent special council with unlimited jurisdiction and funds and he found nothing.
But what they don't get is to piggy back on the DOJ, which is under the executive branch and use that as their impeachable evidence.
Now granted, if the special prosecutor found crimes and made referrals, the DOJ must act...and THEN congress can decide impeachment.
But the DOJ acted...nothing found....Congress doesn't get a second shot at interpreting special council findings.
Justin Bailey
>That is why they are free to do their own investigations
They did already, Senate and House. Guess what they found.
Gabriel Hernandez
Exactly. But these libs have the fingers in the ears and eyes closed...dont want to hear any of that noise because it is good for the president.
They are of a toddler mentality, it really is fascinating.
Carson Robinson
Ya know what.. Nevermind..
Try to Impeach Trump.. I think everyone actually supports that, but just doesn’t wanna sound weird.. you make a lot of good points.. Impeachment is easy anyway.. It should be over by summer if you start now..
Ryder Rogers
The regulations that Mueller is operating under now are in a large part because of Starr's mistakes.
Christopher Anderson
Yeah, that's the fucked up shit. When I put my reality goggles on for a minute about a year ago I did some math and it looks like the earliest Dems could impeach would be about 90 days before the 2020 election.
Jordan Howard
That’d be perfect... Do that
Nathaniel Myers
you aint got SHIT going on. Dump the report whenever it pleases yu faggots? then go back to sticking yer thumbs uo yer ass and figuring out what stupid made up words youre going to use THIS week. Which is fuck ll liberals are good for is farting around with retarded word games. We got a fucking country to run you children.
Anthony Nguyen
honestly? you fucking democrts? you make running the country like a fucking gradeschool playground.
Ryder Edwards
So we're on this level of cope now? LMAO. Don Jr is getting arrested any day now too right? Fucking morons.
Chase Baker
>The regulations that Mueller is operating under now
Is civilian. His job is over.