Sanders will be the next president

The one thing the CIA will not allow in power is a communist. They've had to deal with their bullshit for far too long to let that happen.

Watch the teeth. :^)

>unironically taking the side of CIA

I like when kitty bite and scratch :)

o7

And Trump colluded with Russia

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oh ok

>unironically taking the side of CIA
I didn't take the side of them. I merely pointed out how they felt about the situation.
They're probably more worried about China than ever btw. Russia was clearly a red herring and it was not created just by people within 5 eye countries. You only need to look at Wang to see what's going on now.

More like with the US intelligence system.

Trump might lose the rust belt, but he's not going to lose Iowa. He will make further gains towards Virginia (He might win the state). Maine will go fully red. Florida, Arizona and Texas will go red once more next year, there's no doubt about it.

Yeah but why? on all counts

Youd be surprised. I'm a union worker in Michigan and most people here are very pro trump. People making 70 to 80k a year are much better off under trump than they are under a Democrat/democratic socialist.

Some alt-right podcasts like TDS and FTN predict that it could go either way in 2020 for Trump depending on who the Democrats pick. This is wishful thinking at best and stupidity at worst. Florida is essentially a blue state in 2020, due to the criminal voting bill and immigration. I'd actually be shocked if Texas still, after all the fuck-ups of Trump, isn't flipped 4 years early.

2020 is going to be a Democrat victory. Trump's complete inability to assume dominance over his party and his Jewish son has destroyed the Republican party on the federal level no matter what Ethnarch goes on about. The Mid-Terms are a sign of what's to come, be ready Ameribros for one party rule.

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So you listen to nerd virgin podcasts that are dooming out and hate jews. Please, do not cut me or yourself with the edge.

Florida and Texas going blue is some serious wishful thinking. You apparently haven't been paying attention, Florida just passed a poll tax for former felons.

Too saturated on the left, Sanders won't get enough support over a mainstream candidate, Trump gets reelected.

It's true that unions have done so well for some people they're on the high road right now. Why the fuck bother with the left, you've got it made. But I am sure there's plenty of poorfags in your state though to come out for Dems.

Yeah ok but why and why

You're optimistic as fuck about Florida. Take note of this conversation and remember it election night when some fucking Canadian proved you wrong.

Texas will be blue by 2024 guaranteed, Florida will be blue by 2020.

You're providing ZERO reason for this. I don't care what you heard on your virgin podcast, give me facts.

Also I categorically don't want a Republican to win so it isn't optimism.

Left cannot win without the mainstream vote, mainstream doesn't like radicals if there is an option, the Democrats will push milk-toast deep-staters because of it

> Bernie Sanders
> Ohio

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yeah, very flippable, Obama carried it twice

The more blue texas gets, the redder every other state gets, always the same trend, caused by lefties MOVING there, not by political shifts in texans

Good, this will accelerate the collapse.
I can't wait to watch it burn.
Uncle Bernie will probably double the debt and fuck the economy like a 50 dollar whore.

jeb will win

muh debt

boomer

I posted why I think Florida will turn blue in 2020, it's also pretty self-evident that immigration will lockdown Texas in the near future. Cruz/Beto race was close for a Democrat. Florida almost was lost in the mid-terms.

> I don't care what your virgin podcast says
> give me facts

The podcast said it's a toss up. I'm saying they're wrong. You're starting to sound like a Boomer. Why don't you post your facts in a response if you aren't satisfied with my explanation instead of yelling VIRGIN PODCAST while not reading my post.

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I don't think Trump can win against any democrat this time desu. Maybe against Warren because she's bland and boring

Kamala will be a tough victory for trump. They will play the racist sexist angle very hard and really rally the blacks and especially black women. I think Bernie loses and Elizabeth Warren has no chance winning the primaries

Immigration and election fraud will play a big role in Texas. This idea that Californians are going to make Texas Blue and turn California Red is amusing, but not at all related to the problems Texas has.

If Trump was able to carry out his mandate he received in 2016, he may have very well mitigated the effects of illegal immigration and election fraud, but he hasn't helped the situation at all and things are getting worse. I'm not calling Texas as solidly blue yet (projections are 2024), but Florida I feel confident enough in handing to the Dems and that's going to be enough anyone to ensure a Trump defeat (let alone him losing his rustbelt states).

We saw the effects immigration has had on Virginia in the last federal election.

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Because you're the one who brought up the fact you have to get your political news from criminal fascists.

I told you that Florida is imposing a new poll tax for further former felons registering. Effectively pricing out poor and minority voters from the franchise. There are plenty of rich Republican dopeheads that will be able to get their dad to purchase their rights though.

Republicans gained a Senate seat in Florida so I don't know what you mean by almost lost. In Texas Obeto was running against like the literal most hated man in the Senate. Against someone like Cornyn it'd be much closer. I don't know what you're talking about with immigration. Sounds like hot air you can't substantiate.

VIRGIN
PODCAST

>thread about American politics
>half the responses are from non Americans
Every time. Why do faggots waste time and energy bitching about something that's entirely irrelevant to them?

Are you really all that jealous of murrica that you need to chime in to feel important?

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>Trump's complete inability to assume dominance over his party and his Jewish son has destroyed the Republican party on the federal level no matter what Ethnarch goes on about.
No clue who Ethnarch is so whatever.

This notion though is completely absurd. Trump has a lockdown on the party and what the fuuuuuuuuuck does Kuschner have to do with anything.

>Why do faggots waste time and energy bitching about something that's entirely irrelevant to them?
And yet here you are

As much as I want Sanders to be the nominee I think it may end in a brokered convention with some combination of Beto/Harris/Biden as the ticket. Also if AZ goes Blue so does NC (Obama carried it in 2008 and has all Democratic Statewide Officeholders since 2016). I also don't believe IA is going Blue. This an optimistic map by me.

>I always felt that if the Dems ran a moderate they'd have a much better chance seeing as Trump can just endlessly grill Bernie on socialism and shit and rhetoric like that will be more than enough to turn the average voter off him.
It isn't 1990 anymore. Trump has governed like a standard issue Republican and will be attacked as such. Also you are correct that actual economic populism is popular in the Midwest.

>I think itll just come down to if we to into a recession before 2020
Probably. I think the best Trump can hope for is a EC/PV split again which would be a first in US History. WRT to gas taxes if you don't pay at the pump you pay a pot hole tax instead, THERE IS NO ESCAPE.

I think generational turnover is critically overlooked in realigning elections. Alabama had a Democratic State Legislature up until 2010 when the last of the Old New Deal Whites finally kicked the bucket.

>Trump might lose the rust belt, but he's not going to lose Iowa.
Agree.
>He will make further gains towards Virginia (He might win the state).
NOPE, thanks to NOVA the GOP is dying there almost as fast as CA. They are probably going to lose their State Legislative Majorities this fall there.
>Maine will go fully red.
Maybe. I don't see any meaningful change from 2016 though.
>Florida, Arizona and Texas will go red once more next year, there's no doubt about it.
Yes to FL/TX, unsure about AZ.

I think FL stays Red in the medium term because of overcompensating inflows of wealthy retiree Boomers seeking warm weather and no income taxes. Once that generation is gone all bets are off.

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> You have to get your political views from criminal fascists!

Okay Boomer settle down, Hannity is going to be on tomorrow. Just because I am listening to an internet podcast on my way to work to pass the time doesn't mean I'm selling my soul to the devil.

> New poll tax

Doesn't matter. Dems are claiming they are crossing state lines to vote. Dem organizations literally bus people to vote. What makes you think they aren't going to pay the poll tax or challenge it legally? Hell they almost stole the mid-terms by dumping "found" ballots and never got punished for it. This isn't the first time either.

> Republicans gained a senate seat! Everyone hates Ted! I don't know all this immigration stuff. Virgin Podcast.

Copes (Governorship almost lost in Florida, O'Rourke was unlikeable to most except single White women yet got over 48% of the vote) or Boomer posts (Hot air about immigration, Virgin podcast)

Don't me take that monster energy drink away from you gramps.

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If Bernie is the pick, and trust me he will be, Iowa flips.

In my opinion Sanders has the biggest chance of winning atm. My baseless speculation:
1. Once they drop out, Sanders will get all the new progressive candidates' votes.
2. After Hillary's failure, democratic voters will be afraid to vote Biden as he represents the dem establishment's failure to beat Trump.
3. Trump and Sanders ran on an anti-establishment campaign. So Sanders now gets many of the disillusioned anti-establishment voters, left and right.

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> what the fuuuuuuuuuck does Kuschner have to do with anything.

Not sure if lurk moar or bait, but I'll err on the side of bait and rate 8/8

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>Doesn't matter. Dems are claiming they are crossing state lines to vote
>found ballots
Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit you are dumb

>What makes you think they aren't going to pay the poll tax or challenge it legally
Yeah bruh lemme just scrape together arbitrary payments for 1.4M people. Yeah they can challenge it, doesn't mean we win.

Yeah, hot air about immigration. Since when confronted with it you just doubled down into hand-waving instead of proving it. You have an unsubstantiated hunch without empirical evidence. Okay. And I'm 22 you dumb cunt, if I were a boomer I'd be just as freaked out about immigration as you are.

all the elite memer og bern bros defected to the Yang Gang so how the fuck is Bernie going to win shit?

good who fucking cares. Politics will not solve any of our problems. Politics is a smokescreen for pushing the chosen one's plan forward by any means necessary. until you realize this you are a useful idiot

I can't agree nor disagree with you. I could see a timeline where Bernie wins and I could also see a trump reelection. I dont worry too much about a standard Democrat like Biden beating trump, but it does make me wonder how much damage Bernie could do to this country.

Itd be 4 years of tax hikes and hardcore identity politics.

i would cheer you on even though i hate you commie pieces of shit but i hate traitors more.

IMAGINE STILL BELIEVING IN POLITICS IN THE YEAR 2019

Check the Morning Consul running poll. Generally looks pretty good for Sanders, especially those second-choice preferences.

morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

1. Depends on the order of drop outs but generally yeah, second and third choices are looking very strong for Sanders
2. This is extremely baseless. Also the base is not going to be drawing that lesson. The idea that they are going to be more cautious about establishment picks or conservative Dems is kind of stupid
3. Anti-establishment is a very nebulous idea. I think some anti-establishment Trump voters still see him as their guy on the inside. I think this mode of analysis is kind of pointless. There's no telling how large this pool is, what their motives are, or anything, so who cares, just run a great campaign and convince them on issues not being aNtI-eSTabLisHmeNT

I Voted for him but ill tell you right fucking now ill never vote again. Im tired of the con jobs for israel and mexican aliens. Im done

We'll see, but I'm not confident about that. I think we may have crossed the threshhold for FL.

You fucked up on the Kushner thing, I'm not going to fall for your bait anymore. This is my last direct response to you. Try to make it last a little longer, I don't feel my time was wasted enough.

>Bernie did well in the primaries in the rust belt that carried Trump in the general, so I'm not sure.
That's only because the rust belt hates Hillary with a passion. The goofy, old kike is not winning a national election against anybody, let alone Trump.

So, then he has nothing to do with anything, just as I thought. Are you just Mad At Jews or is there something I missed?

Maybe online, but it's not reflected in polling. Bernie is leading in fucking Alabama of all places right now as well as nationally and in first primary states, so what are you talking about.

Said on the politics board.

>hardcore identity politics.
Whatever that means

On. The. Politics. Board.

you're doing politics right now you fucking idiot

>He can only rally his base so much. Enough it is going to flake off just form disgust of him.
You just made this up though

the whole blackface and sexual assault controversies are still fresh on people's minds here, and you can expect Reps will use it to their advantage

i love how boomers cant see past their retirement accounts. seriously fuck all of you pieces of shit who sold this country out to zionism and diversity. i will sincerely spit on all of your graves. fucking selfish brainwashed pieces of fucking shit. i hope it was divine test from god himself and your entire generation fucking failed and will burn in hell. I hope its a lake of boiling poo with pajeets pissing in your mouth as you gasp for air for all of eternity.

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I literally don't know what the problem you have with Kushner. That he's Jewish? I don't like him, I hate him actually, but it would be delusional to call him the chief problem with this administration.

And?

"if" "trust me"

LMAO, no Iowa doest flip faggot. 96% of the state voted Trump. The arrogance of the Left is your biggest weakness. You lose constantly and act like you don't lol

I think weve seen no politician is on our side. Bernie is scary because people think he actually wants to help them and their life will be better. At least with a Republican I know what I'm getting. I'm getting an economy based around having skills to be productive and make money in society. Rich people might have it a little better but I know it's mostly fucked and I just need a system to make money and live a good life. I dont give a fuck about raising my taxes and making my life worse because some people decided to make shitty decisions and stay lazy

Get a job

Obama won it you dingus. Are you to look me in the face right now and tell me HRC is left?If you would you're the biggest moron ITT.

And it wasn't won by anyhting close to that margin and 2018 shows it's already breaking lol

now shut up you stupid bitch

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This dude is getting some narrative from somewhere and despite his opinion not backed up by anything other than his own personal worldview, he's insistent that others prove him wrong and then gets mad when they do, never accepting evidence to the contrary of his opinion.

The Iowa House delegation flipped in 2018 you stupid cunt

It's been out of the news for weeks, and Voters have the memories of Goldfish especially by the fall. Also Northam et al. aren't on the ballot and have been forgiven by their base. Nobody who was't already a Republican still cares about it. Polarization is a hell of a drug.
nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-plurality-virginia-voters-say-gov-northam-should-not-resign-n973501

You're a fucking retard and a Jew shill.

oh ok

I've found the real map for 2020.

But seriously, we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

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