Immigration

Why is immigration favored over encouraging natives to have more offspring?

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Because being white is evil.

JEWS you dummy

>encouraging natives to have more offspring
how do you do that?

like hungary, giving out money for having more kids, subsidizing their housing. Good luck buying even a shitty apartment here if you are single

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we already have that in Germany.

It's so blatantly obvious at this point, I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could possibly deny it.

Because you get an instant boost to your young population and the workforce, which will yield instant economic returns. There are no incentives for people to have kids and for the government to come up with one or brain wash enough people into doing it, is completely unfeasible. It will take too long and will cost far too much for minimal returns in the end.

Incentivise having kids and make it easier for families to have them as long as both parents are working and neither are on welfare. Plenty of Westerners want to have kids but find it hard to afford them.

cant force a dick in a chick and expect somthing decent to come out.

then you got to put faith in said people to raise the stupid fuck right, its not killed or disfiguerd and in the end its educated properly.
thats a lots of "ifs" and lets hope for the bests.


your child has a chance of 80% to be a idiot like you, simply by asking this obvius question.

a imigrant is what you need him to be. right now here and now. you dont need to wait or hope. certified ready to go.

immigrants make for better slave labor and they vote Democrat.

Repubs favoring immigration are suicidal dumbasses

>how do you do that?
getting rid of horrendous divorce laws that makes the father a slave to the mother. Guys don't want to have kids these days, because they get destroyed in the courts if they do.

Trips of truth.

Ask Trump.

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Simple, stop shilling the idea that women have to work to be worth something. In other words, stop forcing girls to take part in muhemancipation activities in school and constantly broadcasting feminist propaganda on television. At the same time, lower taxes to the point where families can live of one persons income.
At least among the women I know (both germans and second gen migrants), the vast majority want to have children as soon as possible. Yet most of them still work and / or study at university since their boyfriends are either studying as well or work in some low-income job where they could not afford rent for anything bigger than a single room.

Slave labor is cheaper

>as long as both parents are working
encouraging woman to work is one major reason for low birth rates.

The elites think they can rule over a bunch of retarded niggers more easily.

Mussolini created policies that succesfully made Italians have more kids. This is ignored because its inconvenient to give praises to a "fascist dictator" and globalists want immigration.

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Salvini recently said that he wants Italians to have more kids, instead of importing immigrants, at some Euro meeting recently; and some leftist literally who from Luxembourg got triggered by it.

leftist policies
>work yourself to the bone with no job security and poor pay and even worse benefits!
>why aren't you raising children?

>memeflag
you wrote this
>a imigrant is what you need him to be. right now here and now. you dont need to wait or hope. certified ready to go.
immediately after writing this
>you got to put faith in said people to raise the stupid fuck right, its not killed or disfiguerd and in the end its educated properly.
>thats a lots of "ifs" and lets hope for the bests.
kek
the delusion is real

Why even post this question on Jow Forums? As if you don't already know the answer everyone's going to give you when this topic is openly discussed every single day

As much as I agree, it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle on that one. Which is why I said that both parents should be working, since so many non-white families have only one working parent and depend so heavily on welfare.

You know how your country gives out space program level aid bucks to immigrants now and you give them all free houses and pay them to breed?

Yeah, you do that but with natives.
But you're German and brainwashed so you probably believe "natives" aren't real and Europeans just popped out of the air magically or something.

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>100 years ago a dictator convincing or forcing his subjects to do something
Ok, great, cool. Why don't we start a fascist dictatorship everywhere so we can pump up our birth rates... Maybe we should look into why we need all these people in the first place and maybe try to change the system that is so reliant on constant growth.

because you won't have kids and have gotten to spoiled by modern convenience to work

Natives get those as well, you faggot.
But you're retarded so facts probably don't matter.

>German repeating propaganda and getting defensive and screaming

Ooookay slugger, why import all the immigrants who just hang out all day then?

Because immigration is much cheaper and nearly-instantaneous.
Which means it suits businesses very well.
Particularly nowadays with short-term planning being the norm.

Despite most European countries publicly pretending to be "democratic socialist", their politicians still care much more about what benefits their large businesses rather than their workers.

Immigrants are (in theory) useful now. Babies will take like 5 elections to be useful.

>retard denying facts and moving the goalpost
the point was that there are major incentives to have kids which of fucking course apply to natives as well.
why are you acting like bringing in immigrants is my personal decision?

What a silly question. The native population is already discouraged from having offspring. Either intentionally or not, high tax rates, pushing women into the work force, and debt based economics causing inflation to devalue currency discourages reproduction, as the biggest factor for having children is money, and women need to stay home to raise at least 2, preferably 3 children to stay ahead. So encouraging the native population would require substantial change to everything, including being fiscally conservative, as in less social programs and lower taxes, and somehow solving the wage stagnation problem. But that's political suicide in a democracy. People will "vote for their own interests" as the left would say, meaning the gibs and high tax rates on "rich people", and schlomo shekelstein economists want women working and would undoubtedly be opposed to economic reform to fix wage stagnation. I'd argue current rich people, as in people who make over 100k per year, are closer to the middle classes of several generations ago, accounting for wage stagnation and inflation.

Shits fucked breh.

What do they plan to do about the Chinese though?

You do realize that nearly every country on the planet provides some kind of assistance to those with refugee status. You have to apply for it and very small minority will have it granted. They are treated like natives who claim unemployment / disability / housing benefits. There's nothing fucking special about them, it's just that you don't like them because they're brown...

>the point was that there are major incentives to have kids which of fucking course apply to natives as well.
>as well

It should only apply to natives, because it doesn't you have people who live in mud huts who come over and live what to them is the high life off your taxes and they hate your guts for it.

And because it was because you voted, numbnuts.

>it's just that you don't like them because they're brown...

They don't get the same thing natives get. At all, actually. If you want the absolute worst examples you can look at refugees getting free housing in Canada and Sweden, depriving local people and because resources are not infinite and everything isn't free, this creates resource stress.

Heaps of them hate me and you because we're white, you can look at the terror attacks that occur in Europe. I also don't hate them, but I also don't care if you don't believe me.
I didn't start this so why should I get caught in your emotional blackmail bullshit arguments?

>Sweden and Germany fucked up and even admitted to taking on too many refugees
Okay, what is your argument? That 2 countries fucked up and most of the issues could have been avoided if the load was spread among all the EU countries?

>terror attacks in Europe = all brown people hate us because we're white
Are all brown people going around killing white people? Is every brown person a radical muslim?

>spend our tax dollars on starting wars, destroying their homes and destabilizing their countries
>have no choice but to flee for their life
>some make their way to Europe
>some get lucky with support, most are living in camps
>get shit on by the locals because brown = muslims = terrorists = bad
>some people call out "white people" for being racist to people who we helped displace in the first place
>"ALL BROWN PEOPLE HATE ME CAUSE IM HUWITE!!!"

I wonder fucking why...

Btw, Swedish economy is doing pretty fucking good with the recent influx of migrants. Just fyi. So the temporary shit storm is actually benefiting Sweden and will continue to do so.

because the world is overpopulated (according to Democrats) and Democrats still consider non-whites to be only 1/3 of a person/vote, so it's an environmentally friendly way of keeping the economy going while still keeping the population numbers low.

Because by bringing in immigrants they undermine social cohesion and make it harder for the workers to come together and redistribute wealth from the elites.