I have to do nothing with this retarded country. I've just been born here. My life is like a 90 years old, but I'm just 25. There's no hope and everywhere is sadness, anger, arrogance, selfishness, corruption and every negative things in the world. I'm not a muslim and I don't have any freedom here. How can I escape Iran and save myself in Germany or Sweden?
How can I escape from Iran?
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Become muslim and obtain a gaggle of wives.
I'm not joking. Getting a visa is pretty hard. How can I enter a decent country? Iran is probably going to collapse soon. I need to save myself before then.
Heh, getting married is rare nowadays in this shithole. Nobody affords even to support himself alone.
Are you a guy or a girl?
Use a car. Get to Israel and scream I come in peace.
I'm a straight guy. I just need someone to send me an invitation to Germany (as an example), get there and request asylum as soon as I step out of the plane. How can I find someone to do this favor for me?
You're not going to get asylum like that you know. You need to have something that would get you killed back in Iran, such as being gay or speaking out against the government. Your only other option is to find a European girl to marry. Tell us more about yourself and why you would make a good husband and maybe a girl will pick up interest.
>How can I get you to help me kill humans in Germany and then be the fall guy
remain and help to fix your country lad. unite with your brothers and restore your nation.
That manhole cover should really be on Saudi Arabia
I definitely would get killed if I quit this state of inaction and silence. I was born as a muslim, but I never liked anything of it. I was introduced to Christianity by satellite TVs (still banned and sometimes they jam the signals) and it really was/is more understandable. So I classify myself as a Christian, but not a strict one. I still think critically and would challenge almost any concepts.
To find a girl and start a modern and civilized humane life is a dream, but how can I find one?? I know basic German too.
It will never happen because every one I see just thinks for himself. Everyone I see is selfish and just thinks as if there is only one human on the planet and that's him. I'm lonely because of this and have no friends at all.
Become Muslim, then fly to neighboring country to Norway. Sneak into Sweden then claim to be a refugee
Agree, this region as a whole is fucked up.
make the rounds of all the embassies asking about asylum or any other way you can get help to get out of there
I don't dare to do that and I doubt it would ever work.
anything can happen if enough momentum gets built up. lead the others by your own example. if you are true, you'll inspire others to follow in your steps and mimic what they see in you.
He will be turned back and deported, you Jow Forums virgin.
There are LOTS of those examples got caught too early, either killed or rotting in the worst prisons.
Do you have a good education and skills? No? Fuck off we're full. You won't get here as a useless neet.
He needs a reason to. Just saying "I hate it here" isn't enough.
I mean this doesn't make sense, I'm arab but my country is no where near as fundamentalist as Iran (not that it's perfect by any means)...
If Iranians have been against the gov since day one then why the fuck is it still there? no way the gov would be there if not at least more than half of the population supported it. don't say iranians have been against since day one say you are against it because you don't know iranians
maybe you should stop blaming others for your problems and actually try solving them on your own instead of sucking your own cocks and then blame everyone else but yourselves when something bad happens, like any normal human does
then let their efforts not be in vain and learn from their missteps
shoot every muslim you see until your country is pure again
>if a people are against being conquered by a militant fundamentalist invading force masquerading as a religion then why the fuck are they still overrun?
I have.
Stay out of Germany, thanks
Why me? Go say this to those who still mentally belong to their retarded countries?
You're not German. Not even European.
Go to Turkey. Or Israel.
You're a racist. Not even Hitler would have said that.
>militant fundamentalist invading force
where...
you're ruled by iranians.
stop blaming arabs.
so many arab countries are on the liberal side and iran isn't why?
Please do the same.
I don't have the stomach to talk about politics or why things are this way. I'm just looking for a way to save my life and my dreams.
me neither user but I get sick of Iranians who blindly blame arabs for their problems as if we aren't beings capable of emotion and thinking on our own. I don't understand why so many iranians are so quick to label us as this and that but then you get hurt when westerners do the same to you. it doesn't make sense.
You are too retarded to understand who will make your country grow and who will not.
Well I don't discriminate and I don't blame others. I hate racism.
A mentally ill American incel would certainly not make any country grow.
>You're a racist.
What, you noticed?
>Not even Hitler would have said that.
Hitler would have said that you're a coward for running away from your own people's problems. I have nothing against Persians, so don't take my 'racism' as a synonym for hatred.
And the educated classes tended to be fairly pro-German back in the day (I believe that's part of the reason why your country is now called "Iran"); Hitler certainly saw no problem with them. But that's as they are, Persians, and with the understanding that each nation will preserve its own character. Your abandonment of your country for a European one is an affront to both nations.
I'm neither mentally ill nor an incel.
I would have stayed and do anything that would have made this country great, but what the hell can I do when I notice most of the people are idiots and morons that it doesn't matter if I bomb them with information or advices??? These days there are free information everywhere, on the internet, on Satellite TV, and in books, but they never change enough. Hitler would have been against mass migration and BLINDLY open doors, but not that he would have rejected every foreigners I believe.
>what the hell can I do when I notice most of the people are idiots and morons that it doesn't matter if I bomb them with information or advices?
You're in for a very rude awakening if you think the West is any different. It's much worse here, if anything. Ignorance from lack of information may be frustrating, but now we are getting the opposite problem, where there is simply so much information available that it becomes a practical impossibility to discern the truth--this, in turn, makes it much easier for the actors with control of mass media (i.e. of 'standard' information) to influence the ways people think, and what they think about, simply by drowning out any alternatives with the desired message.
>Hitler would have been against mass migration and BLINDLY open doors, but not that he would have rejected every foreigners I believe.
If you are ideologically willing to take in one foreigner, then you are ideologically willing to take in any foreigner. Thus the only thing keeping a nation as itself is the practical limit of how many bodies can be dumped into it at a time.
Visitors are a separate category altogether, and if you simply want to see another country, neither I nor (I'd imagine) Hitler would have any issue whatsoever with that.
I didn't think the west is different, but I thought there are much much more freedom there. Your thoughts about Hitler may be true, but what you guys are going to do? There are many foreigners living in Germany and there are new ones each day, what you want to do? There's no way to isolate natives there.
Do not go into Europe. Middle Eastern migration is causing massive right wing populism there. It could boil over into riots or worse eventually. Migrate to an adjacent country like Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Kuwait.
If you attempt to get into Europe, you will be hated and discriminated against. You do not have the culture or skills to contribute to European wealth, and though you may find it attractive now, expect mass deportations of migrants in the coming years as right wing populism increases and anger towards muslims gets worse.
Again, just head to an adjacent Middle Eastern country, get a job, and keep your head low. Sell or give away all your stuff, get on a plane, motorcycle, bus, or leave on foot as a last resort. Then upon entering the nearest Middle Eastern country check the prices of wages for your profession. Keep applying for jobs until you get one. If you have any savings at all, try and get it out of the country by wiring it instead of with cash. Carrying cash is risky. Have a credit card.
Good luck.
>There's no way to isolate natives there.
Yes, there is. The liberal governments of Germany, Sweden, and Britain are losing power to right wing populism. Expect mass deportations and discrimination in the coming years.
Adding yourself to the mix will only make things worse. For them and you.
Stay within the Middle East. There are plenty of countries there that will not deport or imprison you. Europe will likely do both if you cross their borders.
>I thought there are much much more freedom there.
Only if you keep your head down and don't rock the boat. It's an empty freedom afforded to us debt cattle.
>what you guys are going to do?
Did you wonder why I didn't tell you what you should be doing instead? The truth is there isn't much we can do, as individuals. If there were an antidote behavior, it would have been done already and we wouldn't be talking about these problems. All we have available is to maximize our potential as individuals--stay in place, focus on self-improvement, and eventually raise a family (the right way), if possible. The rest is largely out of our hands.
There are stresses present in any system, of course, and when those get severe enough, that's when you add your own weight to make sure it can't maintain itself. In the West, you have two competing forces of a labor glut (i.e. the imported masses of foreigners to drive down labor costs) and the beginnings of mass automation, rendering much low-skill labor redundant. And there will obviously be unrest when large segments of the population are permanently unemployed--this is also why you see the push for UBI starting, as a means of pacifying the population until the point where you don't need any of them.
>There's no way to isolate natives there.
It's actually comparatively easy to track and get rid of foreigners, especially non-European ones. It's just that doing so is not in the interests of those who have the necessary means--after all, they're the people bringing in the foreigners in the first place.
>you have two competing forces of a labor glut
"Glut" sounds like a shortage.
"Surplus" is a more accurate term.
The labor surplus--relative to the employer demand--is causing wages to be bid downward. Automation, as you noted, is the second contributing factor to the labor surplus or over supply.
>"Glut" sounds like a shortage.
?
>noun
>1. an excessively abundant supply of something.
Although you're right, they're not really "competing" so much as exaggerating the total effect.
Oh shit. You're correct. My bad. "Glut" works.
For some reason that word always sounded like a synonym for "drained" to me. (Like the sound of water pouring out of a jug.)
>insert Owen Wilson "wow"
>Today I Learned
>You do not have the culture or skills to contribute to European wealth, and though you may find it attractive now, expect mass deportations of migrants in the coming years as right wing populism increases and anger towards muslims gets worse.
How on earth do you think that I do NOT have the culture or skills? You just think that because I was born here I do not have anything to do with the west.
That won't happen. It's dumb to treat everyone the same. Deporting rapists and dirtbags? Yes, of course. Deporting scientists? Think again.
I've came into conclusion that most of the people here (not all) are just RACISTS who judge people just by their races. Your racial hatred actually makes things worse for you. If your hero is Brenton Tarrant, I wouldn't get surprised.
You just order people like me to make a change by their own in their countries, but you are unable to make those migrants to become rich in culture and skills.
I repeat once again, I CAN NOT do anything by my own in this country to make it great, just as you can't do anything to deport the bastard ones from your country. In the news you can read that the former ISIS bastards are coming back home! Why don't you do something for that?
Try immigrating somewhere with a similar culture to yours, Europe is literally full to them brim with Islamic migrants, the way things are going it’s not going to get better for anybody, please stay out.
Why don’t you just stay in your country and try changing it into a better place? You just come off as a coward.
I don't agree with the other guy--one's material 'contributions' are unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Moral and ethical worth isn't measured in currency, nor should it be.
>Deporting rapists and dirtbags? Yes, of course. Deporting scientists? Think again.
The criminals should be killed; deportation is a mercy they don't deserve. The scientist should be deported. He'd be much better placed in his own country anyway, not competing with the natives of another (brain drain also being a major factor keeping the third world such a shithole). The scientist generally doesn't need to relocate to share his work or cooperate with others, too--preventing him from immigrating does not preclude international cooperation.
>Although you're right, they're not really "competing" so much as exaggerating
Agreed. You wrote the line using the term "competing" though. You wrote:
>In the West, you have two competing forces
Anyway, the automation factor definitely will exaggerate the labor glut/surplus issue to proportions similar to industrialization in the early 1900s.
I also agree that's why there is such a push for UBI. I just hope in the USA the goal is to envelope social security and medicare into UBI--instead of tacking it on.
We have a bunch of baby boomer shits using social security as a retirement plan instead of as the safety net it was intended. An economy can only take so much taxation before migration occurs.
Well you seem nicer and wiser than some of the others. My question is why are you against someone like me migrating to Germany? I'm trying to escape from the majority of idiots and dirtbags, I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. Why do you see me as one of them??
I HATE those barbaric wild rapefugees that you hate. I hate those uncivilised sandniggers who are just assholes by any means. I AM DIFFERENT.
So why are you against the migration of someone like me? Do you think all the Germans are wise and intelligent and superior?? It's really really disgusting that you hate me and discourage me to come to Germany. I'm not the same as those bastards you read about in Jow Forums. I don't even look like them.
Kill devout muslims, they deserve it for being muslims and turning your country into shit
Beat up their shit muslim children, beat the shit out of muslim women, they deserve it
>somewhere with a similar culture to yours
If you read my post, I said I have nothing to do with this country. I don't have their culture at all.
Kill muslims
Start with your neighbour beat his family to death if they're muslims, they deserve it
While I'm not a killer, sometimes the most asshole people I see are not religious at all.
Muslims are hypocrites, one more reason to beat them to death
Ok. Somewhere where you’re more likely to be accepted then.
Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be an Iranian national
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>How on earth do you think that I do NOT have the culture or skills?
I don't care if you do or not. I don't want you entering into Europe and causing further deterioration of ethnic homogeneity and break down of culture. We're full. Stay out.
>Deporting scientists? Think again.
Define "scientist". Anyone can conduct a science experiment. Even teenagers.
>I've came into conclusion that most of the people here (not all) are just RACISTS who judge people just by their races.
Ooh, RACIST. Good luck with that accusation. Most whites increasingly do not give a shit if you call them racist. Many of them will in fact agree that they are indeed racist, or at the very least race realists.
I genuinely don't care about the Larry Elders, Thomas Sowells, and even the Candace Owens of the world. I'm totally fine with them.
But I'm intelligent enough to realize there are in general racial differences in IQ between whites and blacks--even if there are large exceptions.
Same goes for muslim migrants. We don't have enough resources to separate the pulp from the orange juice anymore. At a certain point, the entire gallon of juice gets tossed.
>Your racial hatred actually makes things worse for you.
I don't hate other races. What I hate is other races sense of entitlement that they can enter into white countries, and then call whites racist when they lower the wages of those whites.
>If your hero is Brenton Tarrant, I wouldn't get surprised.
He's not. That man was a fool who only made things worse, and painted even more of a target on the backs of whites.
>You just order people like me to make a change by their own in their countries,
I specifically told you to go into an adjacent Middle Eastern country. Just don't enter Europe.
>but you are unable to make those migrants to become rich in culture and skills.
See? There is that sense of entitlement. WHITE PEOPLE *MUST* make migrants become rich in culture and skills.
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>I repeat once again, I CAN NOT do anything by my own in this country to make it great,
So head to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait or Israel or Jordan or Turkey. You are not entitled to enter into a white European nation. Many Europeans will be racist toward you. Don't enter.
You *will* go to prison and then be deported.
>just as you can't do anything to deport the bastard ones from your country.
Yes, we can. The beginning stages of deportations are being created. The more muslims attempt to enter, the more calls for deportations will grow--calling white people racist in response will make it even worse.
If you think Trump is the high point in all this, you are incorrect. Trump is the beginning.
>In the news you can read that the former ISIS bastards are coming back home!
Good.
This, this right fucking here.
It’s as if we have some sort of obligation to these people, like please stay in your country we genuinely don’t want you here.
everyone's a lil' bit racist
some times
doesn't mean we go around commi-ting
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>Why do you see me as one of them??
You're all non-German. I'm interested in preserving nations, and while as an individual you can be perfectly fine, your presence in another nation, with the intent of living there, is as much of a threat to the German national character as any other person from your country. If anything, you're an even greater 'threat' precisely because you're not an asshole easily isolated from society.
>Do you think all the Germans are wise and intelligent and superior??
I think that all Germans are (and should remain) German. You're obviously not German (neither am I, for that matter--I'm mostly Russian by blood). It's not a question of 'superiority', although if the choice were forced, between one's own people and another, it is obviously best if people side with their own.
This doesn't imply dominance or hatred at all, no more than a mother saving her own child in a split-second decision implies that she hates the children of her friend. In most cases, the decision would thankfully never have to be made.
>It's really really disgusting that you hate me
I don't hate you. I'd be perfectly fine with inviting you, an individual, over as a friend--but the expectation is that you have your country and I have mine. These boundaries are necessary, and although it can be uncomfortable having to assert them, they exist for good reason. As the old saying goes, "good fences make good neighbors".
Serious question, why are you in no way considering Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, or Turkey?
Those possibilities seem to totally escape you.
You keep insisting on Europe like it's the Land of Milk and Honey.
I mean, have you been reading the news coming out of Europe lately? Migrants are hated there. Right wing parties are rising everywhere that are creating steps for mass deportations.
I understand Iran is bad, but why enter into another bad situation where you will not blend in? Go to a place where you will blend in immediately.
Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, and Turkey all offer that to you.
From what i've seen you are one of the few immigrants i wouldn't mind seeing in my country.
Have you thought about claiming you are bisexual? Make up a story like, I'm bisexual and my family is finding out and threathening to kill me.
Once you get to germany/sweden/other european shithole that loves immigrants you can simply say that you are traumatized and afraid to date men.
>From what i've seen you are one of the few immigrants i wouldn't mind seeing in my country.
>Have you thought about claiming you are bisexual? Make up a story like, I'm bisexual and my family is finding out
Lol, he would literally get hanged in Iran for even entertaining the idea on a message board.
And you think inviting that guy into Europe around actual homosexuals is a good idea?
Were you born yesterday?
Honestly I wish I was German, but obviously I can't.
But my case is like the case of transsexuals. I like to be German in my mind and my actions and I am, but my body is not obviously. It's like if my soul was German.
Do you have a degree? Apply for a university and get a student visa like the rest of your countrymen. Canada's better than Europe, though.
I'm afraid it would be too late to even get that visa. The situation worsens here everyday.
Bitch me too but my black ass ain't tryna sail across the Atlantic.
I just be listening to them fine ass SS Waffen tunes, nigga.
>Canada's better than Europe, though.
Canada is a satellite state of the USA.
And if you or he thinks that the USA will allow Iranians to enter into Canada without intelligence agencies finding out and promptly deporting him, then he's in for a rude surprise.
It's clear what he should do. Head to a nearby Middle Eastern country. It's that easy and simple.
>Kuwait
muslim shithole
>Lebanon
precarious shithole OP only go there if you're ready to kill muslims as you should be anyway >Jordan
ditto
>Egypt
muslim shithole
>Israel
based but jews aren't stupid
>Turkey
muslim shithole
I'd live in Turkey if I could, desu. I like their pop music.
The problem is that all nearby Middle Eastern country save Israel are muslim shitholes.
OP you need to kill muslims and free the middle east from islam, there's no other solution. Kill them all
I wouldn't not while islamists are anywhere near power
Why not move to Russia? Legitimate question.
There seems to be a lot of Muslims in Russia and Russia is already practically a middle-eastern country (but they're so multicultural that it doesn't matter) and they seem to have as good a standard of living as the USA. Also, you'd blend in because they're literally your cousins.
Just go to Kuwait or Turkey on foot. They are right on your border.
Economic sanctions are being imposed on Iran. That's why it's getting worse for you. There may be riots there or much worse in the coming months.
Get out now.
Sell or throw away all your stuff, and just walk out on foot if you have to.
Go to Kuwait. Go to Turkey. Go to Saudi Arabia. It's that easy.
You're intelligent. Use your head.
Then you're a nigger. That's like saying you wouldn't live in Japan even though the yakuza are a powerful entity. You still would because you're a nigger.
I think OP wants to get away from muslims.
China, OP, China is the only sane country on Earth that treats that scum like it deserves to be treated. If any islamashit tries anything they kill them for good, so you'll be safe there.
By crossing through Azerbaijan? Why not just stay in Azerbaijan then? He'll blend in better there.
>China is the only sane country on Earth
Cringed but I agree. Can't wait until my mainland cousins take over this filthy planet full of Jewish degeneracy and scum.
The yakuza are better than muslim shit, muslims need to be destroyed. OP go to China that's where they treat muslims like they deserve to be treated.
>go to Saudi Arabia
kek
>I definitely would get killed if I quit this state of inaction and silence
So kill muslims first
Beat muslim children to death
Beat muslim women to death
Burn muslims alive
You know they're going to do the same to you so do it to them first
you're not welcome in europe
>t. letter agency provocateur
The nazis didn't kill themselves Hitler, and muslims aren't going to either
Yo, somebody made a video about you and put it on youtube, you should check it out
What the fuck
Who is the target audience for this stuff?
Can I ask what exactly is bad about your country? If its so bad, why does Israel and America want to invade you guys?
Russia is also very friendly towards Iran due to them being in their sphere of influence, they are to Russia what Saudi Arabia is to the US
>the nazis didn't kill themselves
>
Oh, the irony.
post on /mena/ and complain there.
The only started at the end of the war, after everyone had already killed them in massive numbers.
Someone had to genocide them first to get them going killing themselves.
Friendly reminder Canada recently detained supposed Chinese royalty at America's beck and call. Even "Cuck the Canucks" Trudeau does not supersede the immense debt of loyalty Canada owes the US. Otherwise, we would still be a British satellite and we would be getting fucked by European bullshit law instead of the 'girls just wanna have fun' style of law in the US.
Come to Poland. Nowodays,this is very multicultural country and you can mix there.
Actual German here. Right now our government is cracking down on Iranian refugees. They make up reasons to not grant asylum to Christians. There are some tiresome ways to avoid deportation but all are conntected with a fair level of uncertainty.
In general they want you to prove that you suffered concrete persecution in the past or would suffer persecution if you were deported. The abstract danger isn't enough anymore.
Getting here got more complicated too if you don't go by plane. Our gonvernment tries to push back refugees who entered from another EU-country.
Quietly make your way to an open border area and cross it.