Fucking windmills, how do they work?

What if we put solar panels on the windmills so the solar panels work at night

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Peak wypipo music

Wind turbines are shit.
Take a drive on Corridor H in West Virginia. Thousands of fucking windmills as far as you can see.
Maybe 5 actually moving. Rest are broke. The ones that work need repairs all the time. Don't generate enough to outweigh the costs.

Nuclear & coal > everything else

thorium energy for life

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decent post

The only viable "green" energy on a large scale is nuclear, geothermal and hydroelectric. The latter two on a smaller scale than nuclear ofc.
Solar and wind is nice on a small scale for individual homes I suppose. At least solar is. I have solar powered garden lamps that are pretty nice. Not bright at all but you can see them at night. Solar powered calculators are also p cool
People have been using wind for centuries. But on a large scale its just not reliable nor as "green" as climate alarmists would have you believe.

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>The latter two on a smaller scale than nuclear ofc.
With US advances in fracking technology shouldnt geothermal be quite scalable these days?

He’s completely right. Wind power is meme level. They poi’s in the environment with stressful infra soundwaves and their general ugliness. They generally don’t work when it’s cold and they are needed the most as it doesn’t blow enough under those conditions. Power distribution has to be scaled for maximum output which seldom happens, so the grid wastes a lot of resources trying to connect them. Everybody’s livid the grid operators charge so much but they have to build to this crap. Wind power is retard tier and would never be considered seriously without government gibs and legislation.

Kek. Good at money, bad at weather.

>how does base line power work

Protip: You need coal, gas or preferably nuclear.

Good one, but fracking isn't that bad desu

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He's not wrong.

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No i wasnt joking arnt you guys really good at drilling deep holes so you can pump water down one pipe and it gets shot back up the other one from the heat?

Lets not forget how many birds get killed by the shitty windmills. All in a they are ugly and ruin the nature or sea depending where they are placed. It works in Denmark because Denmark is flat pancake land with no nature.

Lets just build a lot of diesel generators.

You keep typing but all I read is "I'm not an engineer."

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From the heat? I thought it was just from the pressure
Like the water fills up the drill hole and forces the gas out or something.

AFAIK variability and dealing with peaks is the main problem with both wind and solar generally speaking.

Oh my fucking God, JUST FUCKING ENSLAVE NIGGERS TO THE COAL MINES! FUCK! FUCKING GOOK NIGGER CHINK POO KIKES...

Reminder that """fossil fuells""" aren't real, and that the hydrocarbons are continuously generated in the mantle.

>pic
Now that this is out of the way that dog can focus on trying to figure out what gender it is.

Its true though
Only in some regions theres enough wind for turbines
In moscow region for example both solar and wind energy are a fucking meme coz we have neither much wind nor sun

>Call yourself an environmentalist
>Support wind power even though it kills thousands of birds

Unfortunately you cant support the electrical devices and shit by using liberals butthurt, why live.

Also remember the oil spill meme is fake as well. There was a big oil spill in Alaska in 1990ish and we were all told it was poisoned and ruined forever, and now you go back there and it is like it never happened, and hard to find any evidence at all. In only 30 years.

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same for solar on a large scale
pic related is some "solar tower" in california or someshit
Has produced fuck all for energy and you see those little puffs of smoke? Insects and birds burning up instantly

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>muh burds
I find it funny that the coal industry hired the best minds they could, and this was the best they could come up with.

>nuclear good
Solar panels want a word with your monkey technology.

or we could use the solar panels to power lights that point at the solar panels

Takes much fossil fuel to make windmills and maintain them and they don't last or produce enough to justify it. It's a big jerk off

coal legitimately sucks. ravages the landscape, with huge piles of overburden, then even after you burn it you are left with giant piles of coal ash, At just unimaginable scales. I know one of the plans is to frack the coal, then pump water into the coal well and pump coal slurry out of the well, burn that, then take the ash slurry and pump it back into the well. But it is years off from being industrial.

And it has to be near where energy is actually being consumed too. The farther it is, the more expensive it gets (and the less environmentally-friendly it is too).
The spots where it makes sense to have solar/wind, they totally should build them, but it won't be able to replace all power sources everywhere.
Not unless a country commits itself to having expensive energy (of a dubious "greenness") and to not being able to compete with other nations industrially. Overall seems like a good plan to turn into an impoverished shithole (ruled by a moralizing green aristocracy of some kind kek).

Nuclear is going into high demand because it doesn't have emissions, and the new reactors are very safe and recycle the fuel so there is less radioactive waste

Solar and wind are not constant, you need baseload power, and that comes from either gas, coal or nuclear

Ahh. I wonder how viable that would be though. Surely there is differences in the depth you would need to go for the heat needed

For me the windmills are a problem not now, but 100 years from now when the windmills are 1500 feet tall and dot the landscape everywhere and no matter where you look on horizon, there is windmills in your field of view.

Nigger you can't be serious
Tell me how nuclear is beat by solar. Cause it ain't with cost, environmental impact, and efficiency.

Thats literally true though? Germany has to routinely buy energy since we rely on wind a lot thanks to Merkel.

>Windmills. Weeeee

It doesn't produce enough energy to be worthwhile on a large scale
Even small scale it is incredibly expensive and requires maintenance and a constant power backup in case of damage/cloudy weather

Fly ash used in concrete would like to have a word with you

Sure... Build your nuclear reactors in the ground where you are going to do the long term storage. Only fill the reactor with fuel once, but put enough fuel in there to last decades. Boom done.

I guess women don't work either.

>and that comes from either gas, coal or nuclear
lmao at hydrolets

He kind of right. Wind/solar can be a great idea but the type of person who wants to use wind/solar power usually is the same person who hasn't checked if using wind/solar works in that area. Check in on the recent German failures user.

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Zognald is boomer confused in his spergouts as usual and media stands ready to capitalize on it for their bullshit climate agenda. The real issue with windmills are that when you factor in construction and maintenance cost (energy consumption) you get a very, very slight net energy production, sometimes even negative. No, I'm not talking about that little plastic windmill on your summer cabin, I'm talking about the huge concrete shits that gets sold to nationstates. I know, I've been involved with selling them. Like solar it's complete meme tier for society scale energy production and the only reason why countries love them is because they're so inefficient they have to be heavily subsidized. This creates jobs and bureaucracy.

As of this moment the only renewable tech with any merit is hydropower, which there isn't enough potential of. Nuclear is the only option if you want to persist in letting UN regulate us back into pre-industrial times because of their climatolology pseudoscience. Anyone who shits on nuclear is a brainlet.

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limited range tho

i think his point was they are inefficient and not cost effective for the energy they do produce. which you would know if you weren't a fucking tard.

Fly ash sucks as substrait in concrete, and is loaded with salts that cause the concrete to break down fast, and rusts the rebar. It is half the reason that when you go to midwest cities all the roads are falling apart because they used that cheap ass flyash instead of sand.

Hans, I have an idea. Why don't we house migrants in the windmills? That way we could take in a lot more refugees!

a nuclear power station has a lifecycle of about 100 years
human societies rise and fall in less time than that

>"Darling what's on TV tonight?"
>"Silly Frank, you know we can't use any electricity at night now that we're 100% reliant on Solar electricity"

So this is the power of Solar?

>It's a "Trump describes a common concept with his own weird word choices and the liberal media refuses to interpret with any shred of good will" episode
How many are we going to get this season? Starting to get boring.

Besides, mining the ore and materials to make those stupid wind turbines and batteries is not environmentally friendly at all.

But he's right. Storing power is expensive. Makes wind much less competitive when you need batteries or pumped reservoirs.

Wind also ruins miles and miles of pristine lands. Roads and cables must be laid. Fuck the drive from Boise to Portland is a sad one. So much nature gone and torn up for some feel good bullshit.

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And?

You need an equal amount of spinning reserve or a totally different power network.

The entire lake erie network was updated to solid state rather than mechanical devices after the 2003 blackout. I think we will do fine without 20th century tech...

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>batteries
They're not all that green either. Once they reach end of life you've got to recycle them (and their nasty chemicals) or else you're polluting.
Or you can just send them back to Chyyna and they'll assure you that they'll recycle it 100% and save the Earth for you. But they'll probably just remove some of the most valuable metals and throw away the rest.
Large scale battery recycling would be an industry in itself that would have to be developed. One of the problems right now IIUC is that there's just too many different kind of batteries.

I drive by it now and then. you can see the *poof* when the birds fry from the highway
they had to reopen the gas generators because it's energy production is shit

He's not wrong. In 2016 wind power accounted for approximately 0% of global energy output.

Great idea Sven. Or maybe put germans in there so our dear guests can have their homes instead

wtf lol! Whats this from, user?

niggerland

Based and thoriumpilled

I dont understand... Why don't they just steal them, and put them on top of their mud huts?

>half the time
lol optimism
these aren't solar panels, eolic energy works even less

they would have to understand what it is, and that is beyond their apebrains

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Thorium would be great if we can develop a viable reactor design, but that's still a ways off.

Uranium fission can be done, safely and efficiently, NOW, but it's criminally underutilized in the US. If the US was spending as much on nuclear power as it was subsidizing "green energy" or fossil fuels we could double the US nuclear capacity in under a decade.

Solar power is absolutely shit tier and it's one use is for small scale power supplies when you can't just plug into an electricity grid somewhere.

Yes, it's more viable in volcanic regions.
For example, Iceland runs almost entirely on geothermal energy, they even heat their sidewalks with it.
However, if your region isn't very volcanic you're gonna have to drill a lot deeper to get to the heat making it far less efficient

Only way this post could get better if it was immediately followed up with a Synagogue shooting

Shit nigger, kek'd heartily

Even then a small hydraulic generator is better and more dependable
You don't need that much height if you make them properly
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That's not what I opened
What the fuck youtube
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Fuck wind turbines.
We need to harness BRAAAPs as a renewable resource.

Way to fact-check a joke officer

That is literally how it works though. The worst part is the design of the turbines means the parts degrade pretty fast if they're allowed to remain static for too long, so you're not just losing power if the wind stops blowing them, you have to burn power from another source (usually fossil fuels) to keep them turning

Wish this was a real quote.

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Don't ever change Australia.

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It is

>hasn't checked if using wind/solar works in that area
Nigger, they're the kind of person who won't check if their supplier actually provides green energy.
More often than not, over here the green supplier just pays an actual green supplier a fee to be allowed to claim they produce green energy. There was a short on TV about that a few days ago, and I actually saw these stooges being surprised.

based

Yeah, that factors in into the construction energy cost. When you're done mining, machining, building and calibrating the fucker, which takes a huge amount of power (which comes from mostly coal) and a huge amount of specialist manpower (who must be paid) you're left with a device that produces relatively little power, has large periods of downtime and requires other auxiliary power producers (who must also be augmented to function in their supportive role.) Then you have to maintain it, which costs energy and manpower as well, because you have to plop the fucker somewhere with high winds (which also means much rain,) which erode and rust and clog it up. Then after 15-20 years it's so worn out you have to swap it out for a new one, going back to start with the mining and machining and building and so on...

In sum, like I say don't be surprised if you end up at a net negative energy production over it's complete lifespan. It's the most retarded energy tech some snake oil salesman ever managed to peddle. Solar is pretty useless, but windmills are fucking obscene.

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fusion or bust
muh 2.61 MeV gamma emission or build a weapons capable breeder reactor instead

Local big wig stiffed them on wages so they smashed up his pretty solar farm