So a few months ago i have asked here how to kiss and you guys helped me out a lot, and i actually managed to hook up with my crush. She was the first gf i ever had and the only person i ever wanted, but i had to break up with he and then it all went downhill.
What happened is that i pretty much relaised shes a slut, but not only her, literally all women ive met in the past few months are. Im 19yo 177cm 65kg well built, pretty male, and i had this problem where i didnt know how to tell the girl i like how i feel, or even figure out does she like me back, since the only experience ihad talking to girls was in debates, which i always won. Some user gave me an autistic step by step guide on how to hook up with a girl and kiss her. I literally did it step by step to my crush and it worked, but the relationship that followed was literally the worst period in my entire life. My crush literally just wanted to have sex. Every form of talking, discussion and debating completley stopped after the first time we were making out in the forest. I was literally just following the guide that the user gave me, and i was mimicking the shit that i saw in my BDSM hentai and she just couldnt get enough(note to anons, when chocking dont actually grab her windpipe, i hurt her neck by doing that, also dont grab anything, its enough to just put your hand around her neck).
This just wasnt what i wanted, relationship shouldnt be just sex, right? I broke up with her because our communication dropped to just saying "come over to my place" and thats it. After that, folowing the guide you guys gave me, i kept searching for other girls that might seem more normal. Every single one of them just stopped talking to me after we got in a relationship and wanted to fuck. >inb4 OPs just bragging
I just want to know is this normal? I just wanted to be romantically involved with someone who i respected and appreaciated, but they all just forget what i liked them for in the first place and lose all those values they had that i really respected and start acting so primitivley that its digusting. Am i doing something wrong? Do women actually just stop caring about everything after they get a partner? How do i stop this from happening? Could it be that my Uni and neighbourhood is just filled with complete sluts? I just want to find happines and a girl that can value what i value, and not just seek temporary pleasure...
Daniel White
Youre gonna have to post that guide
Jacob King
>How do i initate kisses or handholding There's different options, most common is one of these: 1. Taking the leap You're walking next to each other, relaxed, laughing, chatting, spirits are high, and you reach out and grab her hand gauging her response. If you want to be a little more certain you can trace the skin of her wrist to the hand so you can get a feeling for whether she lights up or gets quiet before you get to actually holding her hand. The equivalent for a kiss would be kissing her on the cheek for no reason then making eye contact - again, at a time where mutual goodwill/sympathy/attraction is implied.
2. Inch by inch Say you're watching a movie together. You get up to grab something and sit down in a way that makes your legs touch just a little. Then you wait to see if she withdraws. If she doesn't, you find an excuse to touch her, like saying you are just noticing the freckle on her hand while touching it. If she still looks entirely relaxed and enjoyable, leave your hand there. Make eye contact. If she's flustered (blushing, unable to meet your eye but smiling a little) or hungrily looking into your eyes you slowly but deliberately lean in and start kissing her.
The idea of this is that you break down "the move" into so many micro-moves that a rejection is fairly painless for both of you.
3. Ask her out on a date First two scenarios can apply, but for the classic goodbye scene: if you find you are both lingering without a clear reason, if there's suddenly a lot of (shorter) silences that don't feel at all uncomfortable, if she suddenly starts making a lot of eye contact or finding it hard to return your gaze, if she keeps saying things then trailing off without making a point, then you are both being idle because you want to kiss. Call her name, give her a compliment, touch her shoulder, whatever to make her look you in the face, give her your best smile, tell her you had a great night, and lean in.
Dylan Gomez
What's important is that you don't want to aks permission and you want to take a risk, but you don't want to actually plant a kiss on her without giving her the chance to break it off. Not just because that's rude but also because it's super painful if she has to push you off or pull her head back or whatever.
>How do i figure out if a girl actually likes me A list of good signs that's not conclusive; >she mentions she told her friends about you (bonus points if your friends ship you/liked your picture/are wanting to know how the date turned out) - golden star if she mentions telling her parents about you >she sits close to you, especially if she sometimes sits down so closely you touch >she shows a surprisingly keen memory for whatever you told her before, or reveals she remembers details about you from a time when you didn't know/interact with each other yet >she takes initiative: coming up with ideas for what to do, being the first to tell/text you she had a good time, complimenting you >she starts putting progressively more effort into her outfits/looks the more dates you go on >she shares personal details like childhood memories, particularly if they're negative/vulnerable >jokes (no matter how outrageous) about you being partners in crime, like an old married couple, you name it, anything that implies you have a two person bond >she fusses over whether you ate enough, whether you're hot/cold, if you really like the activity you're doing; gets angry on your behalf if you tell something that makes her feel someone wronged you >she prods you about what you like in women/what kind of women you like, can also include sexual prodding depending on how open she is about that
Overall though, the biggest indicator is that it doesn't take a lot of effort from your side to keep the flame alive. You keep running into her, she finds excuses to talk to you if there's been a lull, whatever.
Jose Smith
Most women are like that, especially when you're younger. It blew me away once I came out of my shell and saw just how gross some women are, goes for men too. You wouldn't think it when you're talking to them, real sweet and all that, but 2 hours later they're having a train run on them at a party or fucking someone in front of people. Honestly, it turned me off from trying to get personal for a long time. I just can't get vulnerable with those thoughts lurking in the back of my head. But a vulnerable, emotional relationship is what I desire. So I'm at an impasse. I dunno man. People can be trash.
Daniel Adams
You’re picking the wrong type of women.
>they lose all the values they had and become sluts
Are you sure about this? or did they lose the values you ThOUgHt they had?
Also you’re kinda messed up because you had sex with them and that doesnt make you any better. You say you hate sluts, but you’re acting like one too dude. You get what you get. This is what you deserve right now. Gain some moral values and then go try talking to a nicer woman.
Nathan Johnson
Sorry but i cant find the one where he explained how to kiss. Next to kissing her, all i really did was just repeat what i saw in my hentai. Some of them wanted me to hit/slap them, which turned out to be quite hot honestly. But I basically wasnt rushing anything, i usually started carresing their knees, shoulders, thights, calves, ribcages, back of the neck, went trough their hair with my fingers and massaged their back. I also tried to hold hands as much as i could, eventually they just all put my hand tho their breasts and i continued from there. Also after kissing i would usually kiss their forhead once, it said in the guide to do so. One thing i found out is that girls like kissing them on the lips, then a few times on the neck,then collarbone and then moving down as much as you like, they usually let me do anything at that point. Also forgot to say but i am now suffering pretty much erectyle disfunction and cant get up my dick unless its by hitting women, is this a bad sign?
Lincoln Taylor
Something changed about 10 years ago. Back in the 80s and 90s, choking, ass fucking, ass eating fucking 100 guys etc was almost unheard of. These whores are out of their fucking minds.
Parker Peterson
Yea, i feel you man, thats pretty much my situation. They are all so cute and innocent but fall so low the moment we are alone. I can understand it to some degree but we are only 19 years old and have our studies to do. They all mess up their priorities the moment i start being a bit open to them. >Are you sure about this? or did they lose the values you ThOUgHt they had? I mean i never chose a woman that i didnt think would make a good wife. They were all very perspective, my crush wanted to be a lawyer but dropped her stuides considerably so that she can go out with me, the moment i found out i tried to help her catch up, but each time i did she just ignored all the help and wanted to make out or something. >Also you’re kinda messed up because you had sex with them and that doesnt make you any better. I didnt have sex with all of them, only 2 I stopped most of my relationships the moment i saw the same cycle starting to repeat again and have changed quite a few girls in the past few months. It seemed to me that if i took the whole thing slow, they just rushed things up, and if i tried to be quick with out relationship they just wouldnt ever get enough. so yea, i wouldnt say that i dont have moral values, i believe that sex should be something special, but none of these girls seem to think that way...
Julian Gray
Not true, it's just that people talked about it less. I've had a few freaky older chicks.
Brandon Hughes
Forgot to tag you here, sorry
Adam Morgan
Did you fuck them more than 10 years ago?
Joseph Martinez
No, but they were raised 10 years ago and told me plenty. Showed me plenty too.
Charles Stewart
So you proved my point this is a new phenomena
Jaxon Martin
No, because people back then still fucked like crazed animals. I've heard it from more than a few. It just wasn't talked about. Dirty little secrets, ya know? But that kinda thing is much more open now, especially with the popularity of the internet and porn. The taboos have been relinquished.
Hudson Cook
Could you guys give a few tips how to keep up conversations especially with very shy girls?
Jaxson Torres
It is deeply and cruelly sadistic of you to complain about getting too much sex to a board of teenage nerds who have never even spoken to a real live girl
Lucas Gutierrez
poor you
Daniel Foster
source of picture?
John Fisher
>It is deeply and cruelly sadistic of you to complain about getting too much sex to a board of teenage nerds who have never even spoken to a real live girl just giving the pure guys on here some tough love. What people think is good for them often isn't actually what is good for them.
Aaron Collins
Also just here for the pic. Carry on...
Kevin Robinson
Yes i can. I will write down later. I dont have the original post,there i explained my whole situation, but the point is that except for debates against girls that i had, whic were rare, i had 0 experience on how to talk to girls, i literally just followed what anons here who seemed experienced said, and started by watching the entierty of Game of Thrones, and coming to a girl that i knew liked it a lot, and started discussing from then on. That was my first real conversation with a girl and it lasted for a couple of minutes, but i just kept doing the same thing over and over again during the next few weeks and then talking to them came natural. It basically boils down to just realaising that the only diference between talking to men and women is that women are a bit more sensitive, so you shouldnt really say things that might disturb them. Also avoid politics and try to find common ground, such as a popular show or a book. Also they never shut the fuck up about how they hate the teachers after the smallest inconvenience happens to them in class, so i used that to get to know them better. Another thing is that complimenting their hair or nails will make them smile and say thank you. /hc/ degradation/bdsm thread that my brother was browsing, asked him to save all the pictures where women have something written on them since i find that hot
Tyler Myers
This is from my experience The only thing you shouldnt do is discuss politics or be perverse/degenerate and talk about sex, other girls body figure and stuff like that. To keep up a conversation, tell funny stories/anecdotes from your life or that you heard from someone else. Just make sure that you leave her some space to continue a conversation afterward, since you want to have a dialouge with her, bonus points for making her laugh. Jokes work too, but telling her your own stories will make you seem more interesting.
When things get a bit quiet, you can always ask her to talk about herself such as: >What do you do for fun? >What music do you actually listen to? >Do you have a hobbies? And then talk from there on. Also you can always ask her questions by saying something about yourself and then asking her does she relate with that. for an example >My sister never shuts up about horoscopes, dont you hate people like that? And then wait for her response.
I mostly use these three ways to continue conversations when they become dry, just keep trying until you hit common ground and start talking naturally. But as for very shy girls, you have an extra step, that is you need to make sure they are relaxed and comfortable around you. Do this by telling more funny and interesting stories and by talking about something you know she can keep a conversation up with, such as her favourite show. If you dont know what she likes ask her and continue from there, or if she tells you that she likes some dumb ass show that nobody watches, ask her what its about and tell her that you will check it out later. >check it out later And then come back and say how good/bad it was and start talking about it. You can also say that it was really nice talking to them after you decide to go. Expect a lot of silence for some time until she gets comfortable around you and be ready to approach her multiple times since she probably wont come to you even if she likes talking to you.
Jacob Davis
You're being retarded. Even highschoolers don't fuck 100% of the time. You're 19, sex takes like 8 minutes. Fuck and then hang out and talk about shit. Fuck again 2 hours later, rinse repeat.
How can zoomers be this fucking dumb?
Noah James
Try making yourself more emotionally open. Or cultivating relationships around common interests and hobbies. Sex early in relationships can often be a great excuse to date but not make a relationship. Figure out what you want out of a relationship before and communicate that with the girl before fuckin her. If she dosent listen and is just using you cus your hot then she might just be a thot. Also you cant tell girls no to sex if you dont want to have it all the time
