I hear this absolutely all the time on the internet, not just on Jow Forums but in general. IRL no one ever says anything negative to me, (probably because very successful and will rip into them straight away), which makes me suspect it is mostly neet losers pushing the meme. Now no memes explain why the fuck not wanting to kill unnecessarily is pussy?
I do not get it at all, stick up for random beta humans and get admired, and animals are essentially turbo betas.
Holy shit dude we get it you're gay take it somewhere else
Fuck off
Legit curious to the apparent reason behind it. Memes like hurr gay or hurr onions are obviously meaningless when can effortlessly dominate in everyday life.
The onions thing is that in consuming MASSIVE amounts of onions, as in amounts that humans can't physically eat, will reduce your testosterone. The feminine/pussy is because a lot of vegans are left leaning cunts who look like a strong fart will break them in half. Also there are vegans that are annoying retarded mega cunts that go REEEEEEEEEE in public so people hate them.
because being a picky eater is generally considered as very infantile and effeminate behaviour.
>doesn't eat a pile of dog shit on the side of the road
"S-stop being infantile!"
Because of marketing. Meat industry is massive and they have a huge media influence in America. People base their opinions on media influence, not studies.
Also the fact that the vast majority of people eat meat and people generally will cling to group think and be hostile towards anyone outside their group.
Yes, vegans are all about groupthink and will be hostile towards anyone outside their group.
I'm a vegan and I don't eat onions.
It tastes like the color grey so I prefer not to.
predators should not shed tears over prey
A) Onions is just a vessel for estrogen. If I need to explain how that feminizes to you then...
B) We're omnivores. That does not mean "can choose," as your retard head appears to have misconstrued it: it means we are capable of (and generally need to) obtaining nutrients from various sources. See panda bears. Fat lotta fuckin good veggies did them.
C) Most V-words have some sort of shitty complex where their diet makes them feel superior to people. Not only have I never met a vegan who can shut the fuck up about their diet, but I've also never met one that can give me any good reason to willingly be a vegan instead of just a moderated, conscious omnivore.
Nobody says anything to you in person because nobody respects you enough to feel like they need to go there. In fact, you sound like 'that' vegan who has to tell everyone about how his choices make him better.
And whaddaya know? We call you a flippant spaz for chugging dairy alts, and look at you. Losing your shit on Jow Forums.
What a disgrace.
When's the last time you hunted an animal?
Having canines doesn't make someone a predator. Not when they rely on someone else doing the job for them.
>manly gatekeeping
Nothing more womanly than sitting there on the internet and playing these comparison games. Might as well fuck off back to Facebook where you can post a meme about it or sommat
It has nothing to do with manliness. It has everything to do with humans not being predators anymore.
we are on top of the food chain, how we get prey is irrelevant. You are putting the welfare of inferior creatures above your own and you want to know why everyone thinks vegans are cucks. Vegans think that this mercy they show to animals gives them a moral high ground which is why they are so often insufferable people.
Shit dude. I am 100% certain I have several means to kill you and in general a superior skillset as a predator compared to you.
According to your rationale, I should just be allowed to kill you and not really give a shit.
I'm not even OP, bruh. I just can't stand the cringe-inducing arguments.
And not giving a shit, whether about other beings or in general, is only a cool thing if you're an edgy high schooler.
what are you on about, what does murder have to do with meat? are you a cannibal? hunting is done for food, there is no reason to kill another human superior skills or not.
where do you draw the line then? how insignificant does a creature have to be before you're ok with killing them? a cow is off the table then what about a pigeon? a beetle? a fly? the way I see it what all these things have in common is that they are below my species in the food chain so they are all prey, but you giving this holy badge to just certain animals because won't someone please think off the chickens is hypocritical to all other creatures you kill intentionally or inadvertently
We live in a society where people think being considerate is not manly and this says a lot about our society
>we learned to industrialize and compartmentalize predation, and even turned it into a recreational sport
>IT NO EXIST UNGABUNGA
Heh. Nothin personnel, kid
Why not? What if I'm a cannibal, I enjoy murder as a sport and hypothetically I'm fully capable of disappearing people in a way that leaves no evidence.
Why wouldn't I do it?
>Also there are vegans that are annoying retarded mega cunts that go REEEEEEEEEE in public so people hate them.
This, especially. I've only ever met one vegan who didn't shove her mentality down my throat.
All others are assholes with a condescending, holier than thou attitude.
And this is how I feel about women vegans, so males sound like HUGE faggots when they act like that
yes, stop eating vegan.
I'm considerate to the point where I actually bow to people, I've never really needed someone to determine my manly worth for me.
That's the thing about manliness, it's not something you need defined or set out for you. Part of being a man is determining your own clout in this world.
>responding to the tone.
So what you're saying is, causing the least amount of harm possible is bad because you're still causing any harm whatsoever.
And if you're going to avoid it, you either need to be a living saint or you may as well do whatever you please because fuck it lmao.
Sure that checks out.
>industrialized predation
No longer fits the definition.
Call humans what you will, and be proud of the exploitation all you want. But we're not predators, as a rule.
get help psycho, we are omnivores.
Eat some meat and you might be able to think straight.
An animal would kill you too given the chance.
binocular vision and the fact that we're on top of the food chain does actually mean we are a predator, dumbass.
My dude, it's a hypothetical to make you think for once in your life.
If UFC heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier a much more powerful and successful man decided he wanted to eat you instead of his daily dose of popeye's chicken. There is nothing you could do about it.
In your moral framework, he would be in the right to do so because he has the means to do so and he is technically a superior lifeform to you.
It really doesn't.
Well then I guess thats your buisness but outside of being a personal vandetta or mental illness this is not natural predatory behaviour to eat your own kind as there are plenty of disorders that arise from that such as Kuro and if 99% of animals can understand the risk cannibalism carries and you cant I doubt you're at the top of any food chain.
no, it's your moral framework, I don't give a shit about UFC or what my butcher cuts.
I like eating, sorry.
we're predators, in fact, the ONLY animal on Earth capable of persistence hunting.
well if the whole fucking ethos of vegans is not to cause harm to animals or to the enviroment then yes, you cant just pick and choose which harm is ok and which is not because if you do the whole principal of veganism breaks down.
We're really not.
Look, I get that 'predator' sounds better than any given alternative. I'm sorry you don't get to be the big badass in this world. Also,
>the ONLY animal on Earth capable of persistence hunting
That, too, is factually incorrect. Fucking dogs do that.
>we're not predators
>we corral and keep animals for our own purposes
I think you're just clinging to your argument because you want to be right about something. Humans prey on animals daily, just maybe not you, cuh.
No, the ethos of vegans is to cause the least amount of harm to animals and environment they can.
Just because you can't go from 100 to 0 doesn't mean it's not worth it.
But hey, fuck it, right? It's so much more easier and comfortable to give up entirely.
My point still stands, user
no, they don't, they can't cover our distance because they can't sweat.
Fucking brainlet, check 'Apex Predator' on wikipedia if you want. We are by very definition predatory megafauna.
Don't misunderstand if animals could be slaughtered and reared the utmost of merciful and compassionate ways possible i'd be all for it, but the reality is that it is simply unfeasible at this stage to provide that degree of comfort to each animal whilst simultaneously meeting the current market demand for meat
What is that point? People said things in a way that makes you feel bad?
Do you need a hugbox for that cognitive dissonance? :^)
>Humans prey on animals daily, just maybe not you, cuh.
Do they though. Do they.
Because it sounds to me like you missed the part where I posted the definition of 'prey' and it specifically lists hunting.
Slaughterhouses aren't hunting, bucko.
There is no such thing as merciful and compassionate killing. A life is taken.
>no, they don't
hmmmmmm
>I don't hunt
>so NOBODY does
Christ Almighty. Anything to foot an argument, right? Even if it's completely baseless, rooted in silly ad hom and is completely irrelevant to the OP.
Never change. I know I don't gotta tell you that, since you never will, but never change.
yes, for shits and giggles
>I'm going to make a sudden swerve in argument from how we industrialized animal slaughter to how some people still hunt actually
>That'll show him
Cool
not as well as we do. Panting is inefficient for cooling compared to sweat.
NOTHING can escape a determined human.
I see you are a man of culture too, mashallah brother.
My dude, you argued that ONLY humans persistence hunt. I disproved it.
Don't move the goalposts, please, they were fine where they started.
Maybe not but there are certainly methods that are more merciful than others. But things wount change, people need meat and the industry will find ways to get it to them.
I was mistaken, okay. We're still top dog.
I cheer on for deaths of jews and americans unironically.
>people need meat
People WANT meat, most of the time. They'd do just fine without.
Ironically the people who do need it, need it because the climate of their countries doesn't lend itself to farming - and they lack both the technology to remedy that and set up the infrastructure for a meat industry.
Thank you for proving my exact statement in a single post, onions boy.
It's not about how you say it. It's about minding your own business and letting people do what they want.
>NOTHING can escape a determined human.
you don't get to dictate people's wants and needs, pal.
>It's about minding your own business and letting people do what they want.
I like your logic, I too wish people would mind their business while I raped their daughters and slaughtered their infidel sons.
>every human is american
Here's a funny question. What about humans being 'top dogs' justifies the slaughter? The ability and desire to do so? It's certainly not biological needs - if you think humans actually require meat to function properly, I suggest you read some articles not funded by the industry.
And if it is merely the fact no other creature on Earth can stop us... well, I refer you to that guy with cannibalism arguments.
>majority of the species is wrong, I am right
you're the one conflating lunch to murder, lunatic.
>slippery slope argument
It baffles me how retarded you vegans get when you're on the defensive.
because we NEED meat and it tastes great.
My dude, you are the one conflating righteous killings in the name of the lord and taking what is mine by birthright with murder and sexual assault.
Neither do you. What of it?
It's simple fact humans don't NEED meat. Not biologically. They can want it all they want, sure.
But there's a difference between 'I want it' and 'it's right to do'.
I mean shit, I want to punch you right now, is that okay?
I just don't think you'll get anywhere on the basis of such arguments. Meat has been part of our diet and culture for millennia, outside of religious reasons we have never been a vegetarian species before the dawn of the modern age. Modern society really beats us over the head with the value of empathy and naturally this empathy will in time fall down from fellow humans to fellow animals. Outside of our little convenient bubble of western civilisation meat is necessary for survival for many people both for dietary and economic reasons. There is no argument you can make that will make everyone abandon meat.
Nor am I demanding fuckin' Africans will starve to death. The argument was never about anything BUT the western civilization, because that's where the ability to make a little concession for morality is actually an option.
And 'muh tradition' is a fallacious argument and you know it. Unless you think we should go back to chattel slavery and smashing sick babies on the rocks because hey, that was the way of things for so long.
I'm also what you would define as Nazi and I drive a diesel, I bet you want to punch me doubly so.
The fact remains that humans are omnivorous and predatory, we eat meat as do apes and pigs, because it's more nutritious by volume than unprocessed plant material.
Nature is cruel and animals who don't get a pop in between the eyes get slaughtered by a pack of wolves or die from exposed wounds after a miscalculated step because they are stupid.
You can't stop suffering because life is suffering.
I unironically do think we should reinstate segregation or fuck them off back, and get rid of all shitty fetuses before the first trimester.
The world doesn't need cripples and retards as a tax burden either.
Meat fags, as proven by this thread, as just bad gay and annoying as vegans.
Yes, it's not natural to not eat any meat at all. it's also not natural to eat a pepperoni pizza and beef jerky and bacon and hamburgers all in one day all day everyday.
Also lol @ fags who think that s oy products give them estrogen when they're drinking and eating tons of milk from pregnant mammals.
>reddit spacing
>kekistan
wew lad 2016 wants their memes and you back
Nutritional density is largely irrelevant in the modern era. And plant-based foods can be processed to match it anyway. Besides, in many 'modern' countries meat is more expensive than the nutritional equivalent in vegetables, did you know that? It's actually harder and harder to sustain the meat industry. From an economical standpoint, the fact people just scream and shout about how they want their meat is a fucking disaster in the making. But who gives a shit lmao muh bacon.
And there's a serious difference between animals that are hunted and the animals living purely to be slaughtered later on, that probably wouldn't be around if not for the industry. It's literally an increase in suffering created just because.
Well then I suppose you can't really make a moral argument at all, can you.
I think western society makes enough conessions as it is, we are uniquely obsessed with moral grandstanding and virtue signalling while to much of the rest of the world we seem insane. Yes our economic situations are far superior to much of the other nations and continents and we could probbably accomodate atleast a degree of general veganism but its one thing to get people to throw money at some charity to help third world countries out of pity but its another to get people to surrender a dietary staple to gain an equally trivial amount of moral righteousness.
Most people cannot afford it either. Vegetarianism is a byproduct of western excess, hungry people don't give a shit.
>>reddit spacing
People have been hitting the Enter key between paragraphs long before reddit was ever popular and long before you were ever born captain newfag.
That's the joke, they have nothing else to contribute to life so they shitpost and hope it gets replies.
I'm sure your r/greentext folder is impressive, user
Look at this insecure coы бoы caring about everything people think.
My man, in every country I've visited meat was more expensive than vegetables, nutrition-to-price wise.
Maybe it's not the same in America, but it's not the entirety of the western society.
Oh it's nowhere near as impressive as your Top Kek Epic Pepes and NPC Wojak folders I'm sure
because vegetables are a bland side dish
t. cooklet
In a natural state, meat makes up like 10-20% of an omnivore's diet. Meanwhile, Americans are literally killing themselves via hot dogs and hamburgers as they're trying to make some sort of political statement to trigger the libtards or whatever.
hotdogs and hamburgers are ground up tendons and assholes lmao.
Prime cuts cost a lot of money for good reason.
literally nothing to do with meat consumption you low tier troll.
You can thank militant vegans for that. If you're vegan and do your own thing most people will be fine with it. If you're vegan and burst into a rage tantrum whenever someone eats meat or drinks milk around you, or you start randomly lecturing people, that's when you'll get the hate you seek.
assholes and tendons and reddit bacon other forms of fast food meats are exactly what most Americans prefer. gotta make sure to get 700% of your daily sodium intake everyday
Suppressing your natural instinct for meat seems like some kind of admission of weakness.
Suppressing and controlling natural instincts is what makes us human. It's the reason why most of us aren't just running down the street killing and cooking the neighborhood cats or raping middle schoolers on their way home
>natural instinct for meat
Come suck my dick and I’ll explain it to you, faggot.
>Suppressing and controlling natural instincts is what makes us human.
No, not really. If that were the case then suicidal hermits who let their arms freeze off for the sake of it would be the most human beings currently alive.
Furthermore, the fact you consider something to be a value and the fact it seems like an admission of weakness don't contradict.
>suicidal hermits who let their arms freeze off for the sake of it would be the most human beings currently alive.
They're not contribute to society nor making it a better place, not sure what you silly unrelated example had to do with anything.
You don’t contribute either
>Suppressing and controlling natural instincts
>frogposting vegan takes the higher moral ground while using an electronic device
You should be publicly executed