How do I stop being depressed about being a kissless dateless virgin? It's literally all I can think about...

How do I stop being depressed about being a kissless dateless virgin? It's literally all I can think about. I have everything else I could need in life. I have supportive friends, family, academic and career success, talents, hobbies I enjoy. But the one thing I can't have is a date or a kiss from a girl. Never been on a date and never kissed. How do I stop thinking about it? It's ruining my life.

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By realizing that it doesnt matter. Like at all. No one cares that youre a kissless virgin. Not even women care.

Once you have sex, you will realize how stupid you felt worrying over something that didnt really matter

But it does matter. I'm over two decades into my life and no woman has ever wanted to even do so much as kiss me or go on a first date with me. This is despite my best efforts and self-improving for years

If I was some slob who was fat and had no hobbies other than video games and anime, then I would understand why this fate had befallen me. But I am what Jow Forums would call a normie. I have a normal life, and yet I am still KDV. I can't take it anymore.

“1. One of the most profound mysteries of love is ‘Why him?’, and ‘Why her?’ Why, of all the possible candidates, did our desire settle so strongly on this creature, why did we come to treasure them above all others when their dinner conversation was not always the most enlightening, nor their habits the most suitable? And why, despite good intentions, were we unable to develop a sexual interest in certain others, who were perhaps objectively as attractive and might have been more convenient to live with?
2. The choosiness did not surprise Schopenhauer. We are not free to fall in love with everyone because we cannot produce healthy children with everyone. Our will-to-life drives us”
“towards people who will raise our chances of producing beautiful and intelligent offspring, and repulses us away from those who lower these same chances. Love is nothing but the conscious manifestation of the will-to-life’s discovery of an ideal co-parent:
The moment when [two people] begin to love each other – to fancy each other, as the very apposite English expression has it – is actually to be regarded as the very first formation of a new individual.
In initial meetings, beneath the quotidian patter, the unconscious of both parties will assess whether a healthy child could one day result from intercourse:
There is something quite peculiar to be found in the deep, unconscious seriousness with which two young people of the opposite sex regard each other when they meet for the first time, the searching and penetrating glance they cast at each other, the careful inspection all the features and parts of their respective persons have to undergo. This scrutiny and examination is the meditation of the genius of the species concerning the individual possible through these two.

Women dont wanna fuck you BECAUSE you care too much about being a virgin. You have to let it go and be casual about it. If youre chill then theyll get the chill vibe from you too

Youre hyping it way too much

How though? My kissless dateless virginity is always in the back of my mind at all times. I'm in a constant state of panic worrying that I might be a KDV forever. Every time a friend goes on a date or gets into a relationship, I am happy for them but feel a strong pang of deep sadness within me knowing that that is something I might NEVER experience. I can't banish these thoughts, they just won't go away. This issue is simply too important for me to ignore.

focus on your job or school work and hang with your friends just stop expecting it to come, because it's the anxiety of it all is fucking you up.

But the possibility of being a KDV forever is unthinkable to me. If I really am never going to get so much as a first date or first kiss in my entire life, I would rather die right now. And I say that as someone who isn't generally suicidal.

Where do you live? What is your opinion on escorts?

Are you flirting with women and asking them out?

Escorts are illegal where I live and I personally wouldn't do it because it doesn't solve the fact no woman has ever desired me

No women seem interested in me so I don't bother

One peoblem at a time, first we handle you being a khv. Then we fix you being desirable?

Also about your response to the other user. Did you show interest to them? If you didnt, why do you expect to show you interest first?

I dunno. I expected that if I was an attractive guy, then girls would show interest in me. Because I dont get flirted with or asked out at all, I presumed I must be ugly/undesirable and therefore that is the reason why I'm a KDV

>Something missing from your life.

Choose A or B

A Moan about it
B change it

Most people are average user, and i am sorry but you need to do the approaching. Most times you will get shutdown sure. But sometimes you wont. Also i mean the escort thing, 90% of this stuff is mindset..

Why would i approach girls who don't show any interest in me? Is that not just asking for rejection?

Ok, so let me get this straight.

You dont show interest to them, and you dont approach anybody that doesnt show interest to you.

Do you see the impass here?

Im a KDV in my 20s... Do you not see the issue here?

You have bigger issues than being a khv. You need professional help since you keep creating this same thread every day and refuse to listen to any advice given. You don't want answers, you only want to whine.

I was a kv until 28 u faggot, so i fucking see the issue here.

Jesus fucking christ u are dense..

Well the only "answer" i get is "ask out girls who never show any interest in you" which is fucking retarded

Fellow khv here.

What is your concept of showing interest? Women tend to show interest in much subtler ways, so if youre waiting for a woman to approach or blatantly declare interest, then youre going to continue thinking no one is interested.

Of my female friends who are in relationships, theyve always started off being friends with the guys for a couple months prior to dating. Sometimes theyve even expressed that there was no initial attraction, something just sparked over time.

Granted, not all women are such slow burners when it comes to starting relationships. The point still stands you have to put yourself in more situations where you interact with women if you want anything to change.

What if i interact with women regularly and just dont get any signs of interest? Women just treat me as if im just a friend nothing more

My issue with you is that you seem to be hoping for some magical easy answer that will send all your problems out the window.

With most women you are going to have to be the one to bite the bullet and iniatate, even it theres little to no evident initial interest from them.

Very few women are going to initiate first but if you want to hold out and wait on that than you go ahead bud. There's always the potential you are below average and just need to lower your standards and put yourself out there.

It's also possible you have a horrible personality that is incredibly unattractive. There's a lot of factors out there but if this bothers you this much you better start just trying to talk to a woman.

>if this bothers you this much you better start just trying to talk to a woman.

When you say this do you literally just mean TALK to a woman? Or are you talking about something more specific? Because I talk to women in a literal sense all the time.

Reread my post m8.

Women can be very indirect with their enotions. As guys we tend to expect more direct communication, so we can miss signals that women think are obvious.

At the end of the day the only way to ever get a definitive answer is to ask. Its next to no effort on your part, so theres literally no excuse to not ask if you have the opportunity.

The only thing fucking retarded here is you. What makes you think you know if a girl is interested in you? You don't know shit. In your case a girl could be sucking your dick and you would still say she is not showing any interest in you. You ask her out, then you will know.

And next you will reply with the "rejection will kill me" whine, which is also fucking retarded.

This guy has nothing but excuses for not asking

Im I think a lot of guys like OP arent making excuses, so much as they are stuck in a state of learned helplessness. Ive been there quite a few times, and sort of still am to some extent.

The best way I can describe it is when you hit youre mid 20s with no romantic interactions, you start to suffer from a number strong emotions. Feelings of inadequecy, loneliness, being different, etc. You feel them constantly to a large degree. When under that much stress the brain looks for a way out, and in this case it tells you there was nothing you could have ever done to change this.

I see a lot of frustration expressed at people like OP for not taking advice and making an attempt. In reality theres a strong possibility that OP cant even rationalize making an attenpt, its illogical to him.

I think the best we can do in situations like this is just to reiterate the truth, that he has to make an attempt if he wants change. It wont make a difference right now, hes still stuck in the state of learned helplessness. If he does manage to pull himself out we should hope to leave him something to reflect on. Getting frustrated doesnt help.

But you're still not being clear with me. Am I supposed to ask girls on dates without the expressing any form of romantic interest in me beforehand? Is that really how it works? Aren't girls supposed to flirt with guys if they're attracted to them?

They have expressed romantic interest but you are too dense to see it.

How? Girls just speak to me like i'm a friend. Obviously thats much much better than being ignored or insulted by girls, but its clear that they dont want to date me

Mfw I lost everything and stopped being a khhv, but instead started to be depressed about how she may feel about me and that I may not be good enough

Getting a gf solved my sweaty social nxiety/fear of women, but my confidence is still terrible as I don't know why anyone would ever want to be with someone like me. My girlfriend puzzles me.

Also fuck all of the other advice jn this thread Op, you have to do what I was afraid of doing for so many years

PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE
MAKE A TINDER
MAKE A POF
STALK THE CUNT AT YOURlocal SHOP WHO YOU THINK IS CUTE
DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SITTING ON YOUR ASS
FOR 24 YEARS I DID NOTHING BECAUSE I BELIEVED I WAS UGLY ND WORTH NOTHING
but once I put my profile pictures online, owmen (average, maybe 5-7/10) started complimenting me. I had the chance to hookup with two women this year, but called it off because I was scared of meeting up with them. Third times the charm, as I am now dating an awesome girl who is into the same shit I'm into. Am I kinda revolted by the fact that she's not a virgin? Yes, but that fact alone makes me want to fuck her harder into submission until her legs are trembling.

Take my advice to heart Op, I wasted 10 Mins of my lunch break typing this to you. Good luck brother, if my ugly ass can make it, then I know you can too.

Go outside, go to bar, start hiting on girls and make a fool of yoursef till you can make it. Enjoy.

Like I said you are too dense to see it. You actively avoid seeing interest, you plug your ears and go la la la because you are afraid of actually seeing interest.