Just found out my husband cheating on me worse than I thought! He now says that he had sex with her also...

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I guess you guys realized you didn't have any proof so you've begun making your own little charts. You still need citations on them genius.

Just get divorced op.
The love isn't there.

For all my love of Jow Forums and everything Jow Forums related, the incel movement is the dumbest shit to take over here. You people are as bad as anti-vaxers and modern LGBTWHOGIVESAFUCK.
You call me projecting, when I am simply stating that if YOU cannot find a woman, then there might just be something wrong with YOU.
Again, figure it out.
Me on the other hand, I'm happily married and fuck with you people because my job is awesome and I have the time to sit here and fuck with you people.
~oldfag

I'm simply stating the obvious fact that women are hypergamous by nature and men are polygamous by nature. This isn't even an opinion, this is a well researched fact of human biology. Men naturally want to bang multiple women and women naturally want to bang only the top 20% of men. By telling your husband he's not allowed to get side action you're essentially telling him to go against his biological instincts and this is why so many people divorce. I'm just telling the OP to be realistic about her expectations. You don't have to be "incel" or whatever to make these obvious observations about relationships.

>citation?

>I'm simply stating the obvious opinion that women are hypergamous by nature and men are polygamous by nature. This isn't even an fact, this is a well researched opinion about human biology.

There, fixed your typos.

Gross dude. Hope you wrap it up

>It's ok, 80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men
The lies kids tell themselves. Absolute turbo keks.

I'm going to start making charts and graphs and spread lies all over the internet too. That's what we're here for innit!

Dude, it's just common sense. There are plenty of studies out there that can break it down in scientific terms for you but if you're too lazy to use google I'll explain it to you in layman's terms.

Basically, having a baby as a woman is a huge investment of time and energy. She has to consume extra calories, be handicapped for months, and leave permanent wear on her body in order to have a baby. Therefore, since a woman having a baby requires so much more resources than it does for men, she's going to be more selective about who she reproduces with, ie hypergamy. Also, since women are physically weaker than men, they require the protection of a man to survive in the wild, ie monogamy.

A man simply wants to compete with other men to be the top of the pack and spread his seed to the next generation. He can have as many babies as he wants because it costs him close to nothing to inseminate a woman.

Now, obviously we don't live in the same type of environment our ancestors did, but we still carry the same genes that they evolved to have, so the same primitive instincts are being acted out in our society today. This is obvious in things like tinder where the majority of men get barely any matches and the top percentile of men will match with nearly every woman in town.

Women tend to do that fcking retard, antivax is ok we just dont have enough tech to help us fight diseases without losing our inherited immunity
Maybe the "buzzcels" are too picky

The incel is posting more memes from his cult.

Incels are dumber than antivaxxers and LGBTQPBBQOMG and vegans.

If you want to pretend to be adult, then at least act the part and post literally even a single fucking source, Ben Soipiro.

To the OP, I'm sorry your thread has been derailed. I am part of the problem. But, I did give you advice as seen here
There is either a physical reason he cheated, or an emotional one. Figure out which it is, talk about it, and you can have a chance to save your marriage or find out it's not worth saving.

>There are plenty of studies out there
>Can't post even one
Incels, when cornered with facts, retreat into the "just google it" defense. Watch him do that next.

I can forgive him for the physical act, but him liking her or wanting her is the hard part.

I am going to agree with you on your "facts" because I believe they are true.
But where your logic breaks apart is that your so-called 80% of women, know they are not going to be with those top earners and male models. So, instead, they find the same qualities in normal guys. If you can show you are capable of providing for a family and protecting them, you are satisfying their basic urges that contribute to reproduction. At that point, you then need to compliment them mentally. You need to be a good person, make them laugh, and be emotionally supportive. You can be all of these things for a woman without being in your 20% meme.

Be someone who other people want to be with, and you wont be bitching about your % problem.

Again, figure it out.

OP, serious question here:
How would you have felt about it if your husband had brought up the idea of opening up your marriage?

That's what you need to try to understand. That's where talking the problem out together, or with a therapist is going to be helpful. yes, the threesome thing was a joke. but the advice holds water. If there is an emotional connection to this other woman, then you need to decide if it is worth it to try and talk it out. And you need some introspection. You need to decide for yourself if you CAN forgive him for the emotional damage he has caused.
Is it really worth it if you hold this against him for the rest of your life? Or can you truly forgive him? you also need to decide if he is really remorseful, or if he is trying to save his ass because he got caught.
There are a lot of questions you should ponder and find answers to before you can really continue your life.

A combination of the election migration and reddit closing out that r/incel subreddit at around the same time. It uses to be just tfw no gf and everyone could laugh about the autism. Now it's because women only fuck the top 20% of men and if you don't have FACE HEIGHT and FRAME you should rope
.

I am really sorry for what you are going through.

I advise you to think long and hard about whether he is worth it for you, if you should invest the time and energy into saving the marriage.

>>If the answer is yes:
People often cheat, when some aspects of their relationship is lacking. You should consider to talk to him, about what his needs are and the reason he cheated on you.
If it seems to be something you can deliver on, talk on working on the relationship - what can be done better from both sides.
The cheating have to end abruptly, and he should quit all contact with that woman.

>>If the answer is no:
End the marriage.

Also regardless of what you choose, go get tested for STD's.

I would have laughed and thought he wasn't serious
I do believe he is remorseful, because he is the one who told me they had sex. He could have hid that from me

he told you because he is emotionally conflicted and thinks it will help to clarify his mental state.
He loves you but is attracted to her more.

Did they have sex once or repeatedly over a long time period?

But what if he said:
"No, I'm serious. I'm still committed to us, but I wish I could still find sexual gratification somewhere else. "
Or something like that. Idk how to put it so that it would be sincere

>It uses to be just tfw no gf and everyone could laugh about the autism.
Oh, I still laugh. It's what keeps bringing me back. Especially to the Jow Forums boards. Pure entertainment, even the LARPs are great.
The seething and self hatred is palpable.
It's absolutely shit tier critical thinking. I just sit here and laugh my ass off and berate them like everyone else does. I figure if we push them hard enough on their ideologies, they might see how ignorant they are being and change. but for every one that does not take the introspection pill... I get my lol's on.

my ideology can't be toppled by a shaming holier-than-thou redditor.
btw I've had sex.

That's really hard to hear.
Originally I just knew they had made out once. But now I know it was over a period of 3-4 months.

yeah, he's cheated on you emotionally as well.
Him confessing means he's carefully weighing his options between you and her.
Personally I'd never continue a sullied relationship out of fear of retaliation. Cheating is a ball game, and you can either
a) cheat back like a teenager
b) leave him and gain some self respect

forgiveness just means you give him a pass for such behaviour. You're a woman, and the dating game is infinitely easier for you, and the only reason you're even pondering your choices is the pre-selecrion bias at hand. You know he can do better, but then again, the snatch basically guarantees you can too.

>I do believe he is remorseful, because he is the one who told me they had sex. He could have hid that from me
Then you need to answer the other questions I posed to you. Don't need to say them here, but really take a look at yourself and where you see yourself being and figure out what is going to make you the happiest.

OH boy!!! we have a winner. He's had SEEEEEEeeEEeeeeEex. oooooooooo Master of the universe! We grovel at thy feet!

everyone, COME LOOK!
has had SEX!!!!!@@>!@>your hand does not count
>your flesh light does not count
>your sister/mom/cousin does not count
>gay butt sex does count, but only for half the points. quarter points if you were only receiving and not pitching.

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Again, I don't have a problem obtaining sex. In fact I prefer hypergamy because it works out in my favor by allowing me to sleep with lots of women. Sure, when you're older people tend to pair off more equally due to the way society is structured, but during early 20s when women just want to have fun and aren't looking for serious relationships, the primitive instinct to sleep with only the top men prevails and only a small percentage of men in this age group are sleeping with the vast majority of women, that's why most incels are around that age

So what the hell do you want OP a cookie? Divorce him if you can.

Ok, he broke the relationship rules.
What are you doing about it?

lmao dude, forget ideology, you couldn't convince a child to brush their teeth.
also futurama fucking sucks and your image format is 10 years old.

you mistook my use of 'you' toward the end of my post to specifically mean "You the person on the other computer typing" I meant a more existential 'you' as in, the people who believe these ideals and are part of that community.
So, you (as in the you on the computer typing furiously through cheese stained hands) don't need to try and pretend you're so cool. It's ok... we are all on Jow Forums, there are reasons why you post anonymously. Hell, for all you know I'm a 45 y/o black Buddhist woman from Madagascar who is paid to shitpost by the government to increase fertility rates. you just never know.
But bragging anonymously? That's low tier. Keep up the good work and (pic related)

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by the state of your infantile ad hominem argument and image folder, the fact that you are 45 year old woman wouldn't surprise me in the least.

>had sex with another woman
Isn't that the definition of cheating? What did you think was happening before that? Talking?

Ok, so what I got from this post is that you have your own unique definitions for common english words. So your post could have an entirely different meaning than the literal meaning and I wouldn't know, so what should I even reply with?

Image folder? lawl. I just pick up random shit off google image search and you actually care.
If you noticed, the images are Download.whatever and download(1).whatever
lrn2go/out/

don't argue with redditor holes bro

I struck a nerve didn't I?
>lawl
post feet grandma

meh, don't bother replying? Cause you can't convince a sane and stable person that you are correct. If the you's at the end reflect who you are, maybe you should step back and take a look at yourself. If it doesn't, then consider it shit posting and move on with your life.
Remember, you're the one being triggered, not me. Do you need to go back to your safe space and bitch about it there? I'm sure the incels are more that willing to jerk you off.

then explain why most of our DNA is mitochondrial, retard bitch

Is me. and:
reddit is for tech support, and people who are politically correct. Fuck both.

I know who you are through typing pattern, 45yo buddhist madagascar broad, post feet.

First, tell me why are you on Jow Forums in the middle of the day.
Do you have a job?
Do you have anything you are responsible for?
What do you do?

>what are timezones
jesus

What is this even supposed to mean?

it means read a book

If I could I would.
But obviously, I'm not a 45 y/o black malagasy.
I'm just another oldfag wasting time till the clock on the wall says 5pm.

I know you're a woman, and not the guy I was quoting.

I just assume most incels are american. I know the rest of the world is not as advanced so I assumed that you people would have more on your mind than being an incel. Don't you have malaria to fight or a mud hut to build?

this board needs the ID tags like Jow Forums does. it's much easier to figure out who everyone is talking to.

was a response to
and not

I'm a slav actually. I hack elections and create incels online through radicalisation

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If they (or you) turn to incel as an ideology, you(or they) might just need to stay out of the gene pool anyway. Is that a better use of 'you' for you?
Again, my original argument stands.
If you are an incel(or promote incel culture), you will be laughed at and I will be the one doing the laughing. Guaranteed.

Based squatter

incels are cool counter-culture, baby; you are the establishment that creates them.
Do you live under a rock? Depressed school shooter types are all the rage nowadays, especially if they have redeeming features about them.
Stay irrelevant and old lmfao

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I'm sorry. So nix the malaria, keep the mud huts and add a dash of gypsy. Isn't that the second most despised race in yurp?

yes because we can nuke the niggerlovers or just cut the gas lines if we felt like it.

Clearly he can do better than you. Why hold him down?

The original story was that he was just making out with her.

If not bait, divorce him and ruin his life.
>you can have a chance to save your marriage
>or find out it's not worth saving.
She did, she found out he was cheating. He disrespected everything the marriage stood for the moment he even thought about being unfaithful.
Responding with anything less than immediate termination of the relationship is gutter-tier cuckoldry, and should never be advocated.

I'm going to assume Russian federation?
then yes, please cut the gas lines so you lose the only income your country has. That's the spirit! I'm sorry you're so jealous of the USA that you have to attempt to turn our younger generation into non-breeders. too bad you reach so few... if only there was a better way to reach more people... Oh shit, nvm. they banned you fags from the normal people internet. GG

Making out with another chick when your married is still cheating, or even going out on what is obviously a date.

Divorcing him won’t ruin his life. We are both still young. In our mid 20s and we were going to get a house and try for kids soon :(

If he's gonna fuck other women, you might as well have a threesome.

And how many successful relationships have you been in? You seem like the kind of person someone would cheat on out of spite because you're so bitter.
OR... maybe.. you were cheated on? so you advise everyone from the depths of your lonely single life to just immediately dump the offending party?
Ever consider people are human and fuck things up and look back in disgust of their own actions and legitimately wish to repent? no?

China is where the money is.
Westerners reliant on renewable snake oils and pitfalling IQ due to migration are not a reliable source of income.

That has already been suggested

>sharing a woman with another guy
I'd dump her right after desu

Power is where the money is.
the USA won before the race was even started. All of your currencies, including the yuan, is based on the value of the US dollar. We are the standard for currency, and we wave the biggest dick(military). There is no stopping the USA. We are the world.

That post was retarded because it suggested mmf, which is literal cuckoldry.

>Divorcing him won’t ruin his life.
That's why I said divorce him AND ruin his life. I.e. get every last cent out of him. If he's going to buy a house, then wait until he does it, and then take that too. Separation takes priority over what you can squeeze out of him in court, obviously, but don't shy away from making it easier on you--if he didn't want to be treated like scum, then he shouldn't have acted like it.

You do NOT want to give a shithead like that any kids, much less subject the kids to his influence.

>And how many successful relationships have you been in?
None, but then again neither has OP, unfortunately.
>You seem like the kind of person someone would cheat on out of spite
All cheating is repulsive, but this would be an especially low form of it--you can't even claim human frailty here.
>so you to just immediately dump the offending party?
Yeah, because you don't interact with garbage that clearly has no respect for the relationship.
>Ever consider people are human and fuck things up and look back in disgust of their own actions and legitimately wish to repent?
There are certain things which can't be forgotten, and certainly never forgiven without consequences. Infidelity is one of them. I don't give a shit if someone feels "sorry" after the fact; they can wallow in self-pity after they lose the relationship. And if what they did is disgusting even to themselves, why should I be expected to feel anything less than disgust towards them?

mmf and ffm are both awesome.
Don't knock it till you tried it.
and I suggested MMF because if he is going to fuck other women with her, she should be able to fuck other guys with him.
It's both technically cuckhold. But does the label matter? Have fun, live life, and expand your experiences. What else is there on this earth? Once you procreate and raise children. You're done. Game over. You served your species. We are sentient and need more in our lives. So go out and get it. Have fun along the way.

usdebtclock.org

kill yourself cuck

>None, but then again neither has OP, unfortunately.
I really expected a different answer. I respect you for being honest
I do not want to completely disregard all of your advice, because in the right circumstances, you are correct. But that does not hold true for everyone. Which is why I suggested she figure out her own answers.
You can lead a camel to water but you cannot make it drink.

>taking relationship advice from a virgin

and you need to understand what an economy is and how it works on a global scale. I am not going to pretend that I know, because I am not a trained economist. But, I do know what a health debt to income ratio is within my own household. If you scale it up, the USA is still in a good position related to our income (GDP)

>But does the label matter? Have fun, live life, and expand your experiences
I can't wait for world war 3

>thinking I giving a shit someone anonymously called me a virgin

you're broke and sinking while Israel gets $38B from tax revenue each year lol

It’s not as easy as just leave him. Angry and upset because I still love him. And I want to make it work. But all the trust is gone. Outside of this he is an amazing person which makes this all the more painful. Idk what I want to do right now

he had sex with someone else.
Jump ship.
Even I did after that, granted it took 6 months, and I love to Hell and back.

>broke and sinking
you're jealousy of me having a better life simply because of where i was born (USA!) is showing... Legally immigrate and come have a better life. You will love yourself for it.

no thanks I prefer not being obese, dumb, and broke.
First time I ever saw a fat person was in Houston, no joke.