Why is vaccines a big thing right now? they been around for decades now

why is vaccines a big thing right now? they been around for decades now
what sparked the anti vaxxers?
I hate the pro vaxxers being so smug though, reminds me of the people making fun of flat earthers

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vaccines don't work and the earth is flat

social media encourages every cunt to be heard resulting in opinions over facts. Combine that with xanaxed Moms with to much time on their hands and you get the antivax movement

Why does MSM promote flu vaccine so much?

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Autism

Most "anti-vaxxers" are fairly reasonable people who are just questioning the necessity and validity of state-enforced vaccination. I would expect an American whose nation was built on rebellion against its own government would understand that kind of scepticism. I personally wouldn't want to be injected with shit some people I have no connection or affiliation with told me was perfectly safe and be penalized for failing to turn up at the appointment, either.

how did it start though? did some person find an old study about the dangers of vaccines recently?
like I said vaccines have been around for decades and social media a little over a decade, why is it coming up now out of times?

We now have measles in Norway. We had that shit under control for many decades until the retards startet howling about vaccines...

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>Why does MSM promote flu vaccine so much?
Wonder why...

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There are too many people. Some people have to go.
They're trying the "darwinism" route first. If it comes down to some shit like UBI or a mass culling, they'll go with the latter.

Here is the million dollar question: if vaccines work so well, then why do pro-vaxxers care if other people get vaccines?

increases in autism and retardation after children are pumped with the highest amount of vaccines ever

tiny little bodies being jabbed full of up to 16 vaccinations

mass immigration means an increase in hygiene issues in schools and preschools

and the diseases these people bring in...

catch 22, but once again, government and vaccine cronies stay in charge and make money

either way, they don't care.

Unironically this is true.
Also checked.

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Because their mission is killing lots of people.

Or it might have something to do with all the shitskins you're importing?

But if you get the vaccine then you're safe, right?

Their own consistent barrage of "facts" is their own undoing.
Just like climate change or anything else really.
The more noise they make about it the more people start to wonder "why the fuck do you care so much?"
And the only answer there is that they stand to gain from this in some way.

In reality I think it's similar to trump derangement syndrome. People who hold certain views can no longer cope with the alternative to that view existing and it makes them break down into hysterics.
Trump, climate change, feminism, vaccines, take your pick of passionate causes. Once they encounter any resistance they lose the ability to think rationally.

Ofc, but these are norwegians, white ones that refused vaccine.

I thought that too, isn't that the whole point of vaccines in the first place?

Memes, literally.
Fads come and go.
Maybe tomorrow it'll be chemtrails, or fluoride, or power line radiation.

I think most of us are disturbed by the idea of forcing people to get vaccinated against their will, no matter how dumb we think they are.
You just don't see that in the news because it's a normal viewpoint so it doesn't get any clicks.

Third-world trash are invading the west so the insignificant group of "anti-vaxxers" are being used to explain away the sharp rise in diseases the third world are bringing in.

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king nigger ramped up the importation and distribution of third world garbage and they've brought diseases with them that we got rid of here decades ago. that's what kicked it off.

like every conspiracy theory. Some nutjob puts together a yt video, people pick it up, mom science makes it go viral.
With vaccines it think it started with that doctor that faked his studies for cash to prove that vaccines cause autism, mom science picked it up, despite the guy admitting he is a fraud.
Now overprotective Mom keep it around

Kids always skipped vaccinations, it was never a big deal.

>mom-science
I like that term. Accurate.

One of the Kennedys started to ask if autism was linked to vaccines.
It was years ago.

I have a poster of Jessica Alba on a Rolling Stone cover and one of the stories is "The Autism Epidemic, are mercury tainted vaccines to blame? By so and so Kennedy."
In addition to "the new virgin army, life among the young and sexless"
These issues we're currently dealing with go back further than most around here realize. Certainly further than 07.

It's memeing now due to the Streisand effect. Or at least something like it but not exactly it. The more coverage it gets the more people start to ask why and what is in these vaccines.
And the only answer they can give is "trust us."

because there are a number of people who cannot get vaccinated and depend on herd immunity.

Yes, it's very much in the same vein as lefties who say cops and the government are evil, so let's give them all our guns. Something about vaccines smells like BULLSHIT.

The point of a vaccine is to teach the body how to fight off a virus by injecting a weakened version of it, right?
That's really not the issue, it's how many doses a person receives from a point when they're not even born until they are 18 which is the problem and it's twofold. First injecting more than one weakened virus at a time shocks the body and it has to work overtime to produce antibodies which causes inflammation of the brain, not good. Secondly, and this is the more tragic part, the preservative within the dose used to be a mercury base (thimerosal) and now is an aluminum base, either is really shit for the body but aluminum does more damage by passing through the blood-brain barrier and embeds in the brain causing permanent damage.

Because of weaponized nano particles

Huge surge in children and adolescents winding up autistic and their mothers scrambling to figure out why. That and this

So what you're saying is that vaccines aren't 100% effective, and the best bet is for everyone to take vaccines and hope measles goes away?

Have there been studies?
yes:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 (autism 1)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067 (aluminum toxicity)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 (autism 2)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033 Autism denial as impediment to universal immunisation (Commentary)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277 (thimerosal [organic-mercury based compound] used as preservative)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 (autism 3)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159 ([autism 4] from aluminum adjuvants)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 (mercury toxicity causing regressive [autism 5])

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/ (autism 6)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ (cause of regressive [autism 7])
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/ (autism 8 [thimerosal 1])
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/ (autism 9 [thimerosal 2])
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3173748/ ([autism 10] from mercury)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17454560/ (mercury toxicity causing regressive)

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Normies actively ignore and suppress and dissident thoughts or feelings, mostly because it would force them to question their own comfy reality. People don't like change and they don't like being afraid. It's truly pathetic.

They want to get rid of religious and philosophical exemptions and get people locked into forced vaccinations. then they will be able to dictate that children must be vaccinated from birth with whatever jews say. the current under 18 generation in america are the most vaccinated people in human history. They are hyping up the measles panic as a pretext to get rid of exemptions. good vid about the panic.
youtube.com/watch?v=DuEYCa7PMqU&t=01s

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did you read his post? he claimed that people without the vaccine can't rely on an external factor for immunity

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436 A comprehensive review of mercury provoked autism.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355 Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498 Conjugate vaccines and autism.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848 Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242 study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490 The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322 Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260 Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938 A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12142947 The role of mercury in the pathogenesis of autism.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24675092 Transcriptomic analyses of neurotoxic effects in mouse brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198681 (neurodevelopmental disorders from thimerosal containing vaccines)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29413113 (Aluminium in brain tissue in autism)
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Because many of them don't work "that well", ie near-100% protection.
For example, we currently have a small mumps outbreak on a US Navy ship (USS Fort McHenry) despite every sailor being vaccinated.
This is because the mumps vaccine is only ~85% effective IIRC.
Which means if you're vaccinated and someone with mumps coughs in your face, you might still have a 15% chance of catching it.
So it's still in your interest for people you interact with to not have mumps.
If the people around you get vaccinated, they're less likely to get mumps.
Which makes them less likely to give you mumps.
When everyone gets vaccinated, the mumps virus can't spread easily (like on the navy ship) and eventually it dies out (like in the US).

>herd immunity
First of all anyone using "herd" to describe humans is a fucking asshole.

Second herd immunity is literally a meme and is factually incorrect.
Pic related.

Now fuck off, shill.

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He just said they can't be vaccinated, he didn't specify why.

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It's a result of the lack of faith in our own institutions.

>goy you need hundreds of vaccines to be safe
>take them all
>don't even look at the ingredients, it's totally safe
>we care about you
>you don't want to risk dying of some disease, do you?
(((we need your money)))

Which doesn't even make logical sense.
>muh those can't be vaccinated
>muh but those anti-vaxxers can
Let's simply say that so called anti-vaxxers also can't be vaccinated, because they do not want to inject poison into their little children.
Where's the problem now?

It's not even about shekels.
It's about making people sterile.
Pic related.

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As a chemist, I've always been suspicious of pharma using organometallic compounds as preservatives and adjuvants. These compounds are notoriously difficult to purge from living tissues.
For example, insulins usually use a little phenol as a preservative. This is safe because phenol is readily metabolized and removed by the body in smaller amounts.

no, there are people who cannot take some/any vaccines like
>pregnant women
>babies
>cancer patients during chemo
>hiv positives
>people who received a transplant
>other immune diseases

they make up about 5% of the population. They rely on the fact that the people around them are vaccinated and cannot spread their disease to them i.e. herd immunity. Now if less and less people get vaccinated those 5% are more and more at risk of getting in contact with unvaccinated people that would spread the disease. Most of them would be F if they get the disease

chelation is an option but causes great discomfort and certain cocktails used to bypass the blood-brain barrier can make matters worse for the patient too

Research deeper on it.
They literally use aborted fetuses for (((vaccines))).

You can't be pro-this-shit and Pro-Life.
And people being against life are literally devil worshippers.

>>babies
So you are indeed retarded.
>>hiv positives
Let's kill them to make it safe for everyone else.

...

babies during the first months rely on the mother being vaccinated for some diseases, babies who's mothers aren't vaccinated rely on herd immunity during their first couple of months

>mentally ill retards cling onto a thing and start hating it
>normies call them out on it
>shitshow ensues, normies vs mentally ill
>Jow Forums naturally identifies with retards because this place is full of emotional brainlets that think like women

so many non-arguments from meat puppets on proxy connections
tisk tisk

You fucking dumbass, mothers who got (((vaccinated))) against measles actually do not give proper antibodies to their children.

Mothers who actually simply got regular measles actually do.

Which means IN FACT (((vaccines))) make it worse.

Also, what a fucking dumbass you are.
gelbe-liste.de/impfung/impfungen-babys-kleinkinder
>Mit Vollendung der 6. Lebenswoche sollten Babys möglichst eine erste Grundimmunisierung mit einem Rotaviren-Impfstoff erhalten.
6 week old babies are already injected with posion.

Fucking shill kill yourself.

The low fertility rate shit is because people either don't WANT to have sex because they're perpetual virgins who watch porn all day or because they're degenerates who don't want children. They're afraid of taking the responsibility of raising a child. It always happens when countries develop to a certain point.

>And people being against life are literally devil worshippers.

Guess I'm a devil worshiper then. People like you are the reason kikes successfully beat people over the head about genocides/holohoaxes.
People/babies/fetuses don't mean anything to me. There's 7 billion people on this planet, 99% of them are normie trash or utter waste. Sorry.

But yes, using fetal tissue in vaccines is also disgusting. All the more reason to hate modern humanity.

In the lab, it is well-advised to handle organometallic compounds with utmost care. Many spontaneously ignite and most or very toxic and are cumulative poisons.

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>Muh they don't want to have sex
>I also can't be bothered to read the long article either because I'm retarded or I'm a shill.
Fuck off.
Study clearly shows that infertility and (((HPV vaccine))) are connected.
And what's even more funny is (((they))) even officially say that it wasn't tested against infertility.

I think we can all agree with that.
With what we know today, it just doesn't feel right putting any amount of mercury or aluminum into anyone unless it's absolutely necessary.

>what spark'd it?
A 1998 publication that has been refuted.
Also, gubbermint.

Kikes actually are devil worshippers.
They are the ones pushing all this shit.
But nice try.

>cumulative poisons
there's a video I'll paste into the end of this post, it covers a study wrt people with autism donating their bodies/brains after death to have them studied, long story short those with severe autism had the highest amount of aluminum sitting in their brains:
>Ep110- Bombshell Study: Aluminum and Autism
youtube.com/watch?v=-ecEz7KgYXY
>A bombshell report just came out linking aluminum exposure and autism. Aluminum that could mostly come from vaccines. This isn't good.
>Aluminium in brain tissue in autism
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

>unless it's absolutely necessary.
It's never "necessary" to pump poison into human beings.

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I don't disagree.

this.

In my country, flu vaccine was never a thing until Western media started pushing it a few years ago. When I grew up, there was no "Flu vaccine". You just had it, you took a few days off work/school, and came back fine after.

Having typed that, I now realize it's the "days off work" thing - it's fucking corporate employers isn't it?

Wiser words were never spoken.

then that's their problem to deal with, and their genetic lot to accept.

I'm not ardently pro or anti vax, but this just sounds... bullshitty. If the mumps vaccine isn't 100% effective, or even 90%, at what point does it cease to be a vaccine and be considered preventitive medicine? What's more, what is significant about mumps "dying out" in one location when it still thrives in others, even locations as remote as a ship at sea?

This too.

I understand, however it seems a bit silly to worry about measles and mumps when it's much more likely to be a staph infection or a common cold that would affect people with compromised immune systems.

it's because of black people don't take their kids to the doctors

>pregnant women
their choice. and they should already have been vaccinated anyway before getting pregnant.

>babies
wat. babies get vaccinated all the time.

>cancer patients during chemo
>people who received a transplant
>other immune diseases
people who should just be lucky to survive. society is not responsible for their well-being, since they've already been dealt a shitty hand.

>hiv positives
faggots and druggies

Childhood vaccines did contain mercury until 2001. They took it out as a precaution. Antivaxxers went crazy after that and it spread everywhere. I met a lot of antivaxer moms in the early 2000s. Every single one of them was the hippie, natural-only, PETA loving, save the planet, climate doomsdayer type. It spread fast in those circles.

cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html

got unfriended by someone on Facebook that i've known for 5+ years because i linked peer reviewed articles saying that vaccines synthesized using proteins (egg/agar jelly) are contaminated with "glyphosate" which is an agricultural pesticide.

the guy was a fag enabling literal autist leftist anyway so whatever.

Factually incorrect, burger shill.

nvic.org/faqs/mercury-thimerosal.aspx
>Even though most of the vaccines routinely administered to infants in the United States no longer contain more than trace amounts
>trace amounts
trace amounts (and that's only for quote "MOST") != nothing at all

And I wouldn't trust them anyway.
>yeah goyim, we only put a tiny bit of mercury into most of these now
>They are totally safe because of that
a few years later researchers find way more
>Oh goyim, that was simply a fault
>We are so sorry that your child got autismo

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>the guy was a fag enabling literal autist leftist anyway so whatever.
Good riddance I say.
That's a bit of plus for these vaccines.

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false flag. Just talk some retards into believing it and organize rallies/marches/whatever every month or two and all of a sudden it's a "major issue" on "everybody's mind"

You're probably right about that. I just find it odd that the influenza virus is constantly mutating, so you have to get a new vaccine every year. That's find for really old people that will die but for 95% of the population, why bother?

Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 is where this shitshow began.
That's when the Reagan administration protected the pharmaceutical industry from parents suing it if their child suffered or died from vaccine injections. Also, the dose count went up from 24 to 72 between 1983 to 2016.
And finally it's the taxpayer who has to pay for the damages that vaccines cause because of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).
So not only does pharma get a pass on poisoning everyone they don't get punished for harming them.
Go on all you want about old women having kids and whatever else is on the meat puppet script but when an industry can profit from damaging people they'll continue doing it regardless of any moral issues

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It all started with a British GP who's funded research linked the MMR vaccine with Autism. His research was debunked but it lead to a movement in the UK that refused to have their children vaccinated. Herd immunity dried below the required amount and cases of the measles and mumps increased. The general consensus now is that the vaccinations are required and the furore died down years ago. Vaccination is a choice, not a requirement but you'd be considered foolish not to get your children vaccinated.

Fast forward to now.

Hey, if you want to fly in the face of science and historic knowledge then fair play to you but watching your kids in pain or dying is a bad experience.

antivaxxers have been around for ages.

You know what I would expect?
NO POISON.
and
DOUBLE BLIND STUDIES for all of them

I mean wtf
>Yeah, we need to put literal poison into these
>And we haven't done studies that are done for literally all medicine
>Oh btw. we can't be sued for damages either, kek
How retarded must someone be to do what these clowns say?
Same people that claim that genital mutilation is healthy. Boys only of course. for Girls it's evil.

I mean what the fuck. People can't be this dumb.

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Great post.
Not used to leafs doing those.

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>People can't be this dumb.
it's worse, they're willfully spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt for pennies each time, like this meat puppet for example

I completely understand and planning to move out of this shit hole because of the retards that live here

Old women having kids is bad too. Very bad.
Modern society does way too much bullshit to try and live comfortably. Pensions and social security are a glaring example. No other species on earth coddles its elderly at the expense of itself and its children. NONE.
Humans do so much to fight nature and by doing so, we're destroying out genetic lineage. Diseases for example exist to cull the weak or stupid.

>If the mumps vaccine isn't 100% effective, or even 90%, at what point does it cease to be a vaccine and be considered preventitive medicine?
85% is still pretty damn good protection, and it makes it very hard for the virus to spread much.

>What's more, what is significant about mumps "dying out" in one location when it still thrives in others, even locations as remote as a ship at sea?
It's good for us if it's gone in the places where we actually live (and where people who interact with us live).
How many mumps outbreaks have you seen in your life?

>it seems a bit silly to worry about measles and mumps
You're right on that though.
The number of people actually affected by anti-vaxxers is pretty tiny.
On the other hand, it's probably 100 times the number affected by school shootings and look how much coverage that gets.
That's journalism for ya. Gotta get those clicks.

Cool unsources screencap of an """article""" written by a """""""journalist""""""""", faggot.

Pretty sure most of these are shills.
There are surely also really dumb people on here, but they can't be this dumb.

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>Old women having kids is bad too. Very bad.
Considering both my grandmothers were pushing out kids until late in life (both more than 10 each) who didn't have any learning disabilities, genetic defects or brain damage then there is something else going on to cause the problem not related to age

If you weren't a shill, you would have found the article and thus found everything that is linked from there.

You can't stop what is coming.
Tick Tock.

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Anecdotes mean nothing. It is a fact that elder people should NOT be having kids. Especially women. The older they get the more gamma, X, and cosmic rays they're exposed to.

>Pretty sure most of these are shills.
I agree, they are using word triggers to find any discussion on the matter then start their work on spreading stupid shit.
Also, take the related img for example, when people found out that hamster ovaries were used to make a vaccine that data was wiped from the online record almost immediately. Does that mean the contests of the injection have been magically removed too? Nope, it just goes to show how far the industry will go to cover its tracks

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both flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers deserve to be making fun of, for beeing inbred mongoloids.

I was expecting the "anecdotal evidence is bullshit" answer, how funny is that. Regardless, yes that was just from my personal experience but not an isolated case because every family from the country my parents were from in the Balkans had massive families because that's how you got free farm hands to work tending to the fields

all shills should be killed for taking money in order to further the agenda of an industry

Yes, that's why I'm trying to avoid certain words most of the time.
But well at least one doesn't get shadowbanned on here compared to other sites.
Sneaky bastards.
I'm also pretty sure that there are tons of bots.
Create yourself CAPTCHA pics and use them.
For example write "are you a human?" and use photoshop to make it less easily readable.
You will be surprised what's going to happen.

Tons of times simply posting pics only will avoid most of them.

Only 60% of kids even got the shitty (((polio))) vaccine and it was the only thing that was given.

Now, 95% of kids get 84 (((vaccines))).

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Anecdote is bullshit. That's why the evidence you've posted ITT is important.

first post best post. If only you knew how bad things are.

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