Explain to me why free trade and consolidating immigrants into the first world for economic purposes doesn't...

Explain to me why free trade and consolidating immigrants into the first world for economic purposes doesn't drastically improve the quality of life and sphere of influence, in a productive way that proliferates humanitarian ethics and limit war?

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Stupid nigger

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Explain it and reinforce my right wing leanings

Kill yourself, neoliberal.

Im literally a paleocon asking to be argued away from neoliberalism, and you're making it look like theres no real argument against it

because they're fucking rapists.

and they don't contribute to the wider economy. they shop within their own communities using benefits money from the government, and they don't pay taxes with any regularity.

>xplain to me why free trade and consolidating immigrants into the first world for economic purposes improve the quality of life and sphere of influence, in a productive way that proliferates humanitarian ethics and limit war?

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maybe someone can explain how economics is in anyway tied to human quality of life? Maybe a little bit?

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Holy crap you are retarded

Because it very obviously does not?

First world consumption rates *per person* are a lot higher than the third world, if they all upgraded to first world levels we'd destroy the earth a lot faster. We'd also have pressures of space, say goodbye to backyards and lower housing costs, they're skyrocketing now.

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of cancer and the only people who agree with this endless globalization shit are the ultra rich, their think tank puppets and whatever sociology studying retards they've managed to con.

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Cheaper food, cheaper products, better products, more valuable money in circulation to represent the real value of the more abundant valuable created objects and services, for more people? Productivity creates value, and we have more of both valuable and common amenities and goods a valuable than we ever have. Come on man.

The environmentalism stuff is a good point for sure, looks like we really are having trouble correcting that, and may not be able to. That being said, German Industrialism and violence in the 1900s wasnt the proper traditionalist counterargument.

Yes immigrants contribute but not niggers, it's mostly asians.

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Niggers were imported as inhuman farm tools, and our western humanitarianism has us elevating them as an act of penance for a massive crime against humanity of ethnic human trafficking and enslavement.
We almost have no nigger immigrants.

>import wave upon wave of low IQ shitskins who are culturally incompatible with us and have no time to assimilate, forming insular immigrant enclaves that damage social cohesion in the wider society
>all these extra people decreases American wages and increases the cost of housing
>literally fucking your own people for a few points on your GDP
Very shortsighted.

daily reminder: more niggers, less nature

immagine a zoo. lets bring every animal together in one cell and see what happens.

>look at all these bricks lying around
>I'll carry some bricks around my neck so there are fewer bricks over there

Just kill all nonwhites then let the whites breed.

Its more like a bunch of different humans trying to work, trying to tolerate one group of animals in the cage because we felt bad we made them pull our farm equipment

Guys, what happened with blacks was an illegal act of mass human trafficking. It wasnt consolidation.

because immigrints tend to be stupid and quite a few dont assimilate and end up degrading the quality of the host countries they stay in

If we had imported blacks as valuable people worth the cost of their work, and treated them as something you shouldnt bring over unless you were willing to invest in with wages, then we wouldn't have brought over blacks who aren't worth the cost of their labor

>doesn't drastically improve the quality of life

because third worlders don't fucking contribute you twat

“Just import the good ones” sounds nice, but that’s a different argument. You were asking about “consolidation”.

Because we have no job surplus and lose jobs and wealth in every group but the richest every year, who threaten even more jobs with automation. This is unlike mechanization of the past. We can’t go make something else on our property because of zoning laws, tax breaks only for mega corporations, and generalized copyright and patents that make conpetition difficult or impossible. There’s no free market here to fill the gap.

The only “economic” anything to bring in 3rd worlders is for their benefit, not ours. We don’t have a right to unionize but we need hire wages, 3rd worlders are like scabs willing to work for under minimum wage. It’s not a life of prosperity for us to have them here. It’s a life of 80 jour work weeks to live 8 people per room in bunk beds.

It basically makes everything cheaper over time, including labor.

>consolidating immigrants
You obviously don't pay taxes, because if you did, you too would be pissed at what you are being robbed of to support namely, illegally present freeloaders looking for a handout. I apparently live in a sanctuary city but not one motherfucker asked me what I thought about it. Since they haven't told me moving out of the shithole is the illegal move of a bigot I am taking myself, my finacee and our collective one hundred and forty thousand dollars the fuck out of here, I bought a house across the county line so I can be certain I'm not paying for some asshole politicians attempt to bribe potential voters they allow to be here and to support their fantasy wishlists by stealing from me.

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Pro-immigration anti illegal unchecked human traficking, what can I say? We have departments for this

>A Paleocon
>pro-immigration

sounds legit...

Are you playing one of those out of sight out of mind tricks on yourself?

No.
Write you own term paper.

I pay taxes, and though it pains me that my yearly taxes pay for exactly one person's welfare, it wouldnt be so bad or as disproportionate if the vast majority of welfare didnt go to ex-slaves who were broight over for reasons besides merit

In short, the existence of blacks in America as ex-slaves ruined immigration

>Consolidating immigrants into the first world for economic purpose

I want some of that pot you have, immigrants don't belong here. Come in legally, or don't come at all.

In Germany? Immigrants don't really work. They get their money shoved up their ass by the state under the cover of "Refugee status"

BECAUSE THIRD WORLD PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND CHRONICALLY SO.

if immigrants are low IQ then it will destroy civilization eventually.
if you want a peaceful world with no borders and no war and free trade, we have to make everyone intelligent via incentive based sperm donation eugenics.

>big brain wojacks getting jacked off to crowd of seething chads
Not disagreeing btw

No. America’s existing black population is a separate discussion. Everything in and applies to modern issues. Legal immigration in small number is not inherently bad, but immigration in large number (legal or illegal) is exactly as destructive to a country as described.

A one world government will be necessary to consolidate enough resources and labor to become a space fairing species.

You missed the point
He's saying "if they were worth their shit, we wouldn't have enslaved them and paid them absolutely nothing"

This. If we had just paid real farmers (including immigrants) we'd have had a generative culture where we'd only have workers who produce more than they cost, and who get the pay that enables the progress of their family

Anyone who is against Mexican illegal immigration should be against the slave trade. No reason to bring in workers not worth their salt just out of the satisfaction of subjugating a race, especially when that gets undone

When you look at America’s social landscape, would you say we have high social trust?
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x
Unironically, the more libs scream nazi at me, the more I am convinced of white nationalism. They are just proving this break down

God this is so tiresome.
1) your argument assumes this shitty materialistic hypersexual antimoral pseudo western structure is better than everyone else
2) because it’s so much better everyone must partake of it
3) 3rd world apes are capable of immediately reorienting their psychology to a golden-era western value system and totally behaving as a western.
4) this is all ethical lmfao retard ass
5) you started your worldview decision tree with “people are first measured by western socioeconomic ruler” which generates class tension and is the worst of the three ways to begin a worldview decision tree.
6) you assume third world is thankful for your new shittier brand of imperialism. (See American blacks eternal gibs)
7) holy shit lurk for a while and read

You pay 10,000 a year in taxes?

>doesn't drastically improve the quality of life and sphere of influence
competition over jobs.

>When you look at America’s social landscape, would you say we have high social trust?
No.

A little more than that. Not too impressive I know

Okay you dumb nigger, let me explain how things work. If your country has borders and imported goods are controlled, it can have a variety of industries. It can produce soap and cars and those will be competitive on the local market due to the fact that you have import restrictions that push up the price of the imported goods.
Now you remove those restrictions, what happens? In the entire free trade region only the most efficient producer of soap and cars survives, everyone else can't compete and dies. What does the economy of your country look like now? You've probably found 1 or 2 little niches that you're better at than the rest of the free trade region. And that's what you become, you become the soap country or the olive oil country and that's ALL you do. Each country gets pushed deeper and deeper into that one specific industry it can rely on.
Do I need to explain why economy needs to be diversified or can you figure that one out yourself?

I pay more than twice that, 22,000 out of my payroll, and every year I still have to write a check to the IRS. To support healthcare for illegal aliens. I suffered without healthcare for YEARS as an American citizen, who is also an honorably discharged army veteran, but now that I have busted my fucking ass for years just to be on level ground I'm being told that even though an American vet isn't worthy of minimal healthcare, but I can pay for some fucking piece of shit encouraged to migrate here by some worthless socialist cunts who are driving them and feeding them, this isn't organic, you know that right? You are what Marx referred to as a useful idiot, you don't even know who you are a mouth piece for

>Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income

>There would also be side consequences of this strategy, according to Cloward and Piven. These would include: shoring up support for the national Democratic Party-then splintered by pluralistic interests (through its cultivation of poor and minority constituencies by implementing a national "solution" to poverty)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy

For who?

The fucking freeloading immigrants and politicians who exploit them.