Why do girls have no empathy for virgins? Why do girls dislike desperation? I've heard it said that if I man's desperate then it means he doesn't care about you specifically and that he just wants you because you're there. I disagree with this. Why? Because desire doesn't work that way. When you fall in love with someone, you fall in love with THAT person, nobody else. Just because a desperate guy might fall in love with many people doesn't mean he finds your personality inconsequential, because it is your personality that he has fallen in love with, otherwise his desire would only be of a sexual nature, which it clearly isn't, on the contrary its a deep desire for emotional reciprocation of which sexual attraction no doubt plays a role although it doesn't detract from the depth of this desire, that would be ludicrous...
Why do women always assume desperation means there's something wrong with this person? Is this assumption logical? Is it ethical? How is it not morally reprehensible to judge someone for having strong desires, which, I might add, arise from years of shafted desires, and stem from deeply sociological causes? Rampant individualistic, female-centric society has created the incel phenomenon just as capitalistic notions of productivity have created "aspergers" or generalized depression or any other psychiatric disorder thats only considered such due to their hindrance on capitalistic standards of productivity. Why do no women see this, or want to see it? Why is it, that a society which so legitimately seeks to emancipate the woman, is so blind to the need of emancipating men? WHY does being dissatisfied earn you the absolute ridicule of society, ESPECIALLY from women, who're the very people who we want validation from most of all?
Men hate desperation too dude. I have a girl who's aggressively hitting on me now and it's just major unattractive to me. I don't want someone who tries so hard to please me, I want an individual who chooses to be with me.
that being said I'm still alone
Sebastian Young
It means you lack sufficient love-objects within yourself. i.e, you're lacking in self.
>emancipating men Sounds like that's what's happening. You're free from sexual and relationship obligations, as are they. If you're not, then it's because you're the one restricting your freedom.
Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry, and you cry alone Women also just don't like true weakness in men, particularly in men they have no emotional attachment to, and when you expose them to anything that makes them uncomfortable, that feeling goes from "I feel uncomfortable because this dude is vulnerable" to "This dude makes me feel uncomfortable, I hate him"
Grayson Diaz
that sounds hot though
Jeremiah Miller
are u fucking gay? i want to be hit on by a girl
Ryder Gonzalez
Wtf? When a girl comes onto me strong i get a huge boner. Men and women are nothing alike brah
Connor Foster
Virgin = Ugly male = bad genetics. Women cannot afford to be impregnated by you thats why they recoil at you
Lincoln Williams
U sound like a fucking puss. grow a pair and get a gf
Charles Brooks
Desperation means that the other person doesn't want you because they like you, they want you because you're the nearest living man/woman that hasn't rejected them yet. If that appeals to you, you're equally desperate or have some deep self-esteem issues.
Leo Hernandez
This post is just one long cope. You need to go to a therapist and stop shopping your self-loathing onto other people.
Wyatt Kelly
> When you fall in love with someone, you fall in love with THAT person, nobody else.
One, you aren't falling in love with anyone. You can't get close enough to actually fall in love.
Second, don't be daft, of course you can fall in love with more than one person. Happens all the time. Love isn't magic, it's just an emotion.
Jackson Davis
What kind of women come onto you? This girl wasn't *fat* but she was pudgy and not very smart, just came off poorly.
Evan Lewis
Women are not logical or ethical, the reason they dislike virgins is because in their eyes a virgin is a sexually unattractive man unless he is very young. Women only want sex with guys they perceive as being sexually desired by other women, so being a virgin is a sort of self destructive negative snowball effect, the only way to break out of being a virgin is to deny being one if asked
Also they dislike desperation because sexually desired men are never desperate, so they deduce that you aren't desirable Women are very cold and calculating, so if you wanna bend them over and conquer that ass you have to beat them at their own game I used to be like you
I’m a Virgin and have been told I’m attractive numerous times.
Blake Thomas
Why do I get the feeling that you don't know or interact with a whole lot of women?
Alexander Garcia
Women are ridiculously insecure, regardless of what they put on. They hate the idea that this guy exists who puts her high up on a pedestal when she knows full well her entire list of flaws.
Thomas Russell
I once knew a slut
Like, "She actually sells her body for money"-slut
She once told me "I could be your First Time, but that wouldn't be right"
Ah.
Ok.
Jayden Taylor
shut up retard making opaque generalizations... you will never be able to attribute anything to anyone this way. Virgin doesnt equal anything because no single case is alike, and faggots like you only make these attributions to vast swathes of people because you cant appreciate the variety of circumstances, so ur using this generalized shit as a mental crutch of sorts... just as an anecdotal sidenote I'm very attractive
Adrian Ramirez
none, that's kind of the point. So it definitely isn't mutual, it is definitely the men who do it, if women did it, it wouldn't be a problem, it would be a solution
Carson Cooper
Believe I covered this in my opening post. What makes desperate love inherently shallow? The very opposite could be true no? Those who've been lonely most of their lives may greater appreciate each other than those who've merely gotten it down to a science? What say u?
Why is desperation necessarily indicative of mental illness? Stop arguing from truisms bro. Can you prove this emotion is irrational? Can you prove this emotion isn't consistent with my wellbeing? Why am I "self-loathing" where is this self loathing? Where have I loathed myself anywhere in my post? Do you know the definition of self-loathing? And what am I coping with? What makes my post a cope? I don't think ur using these terms with any verifiability youre just throwing them around. Actually ur whole reply is superficial and based solely on incredulity. You just think im being silly because im deviating from the common discourse, so u tell me to go to a "therapist..." for what? Fringe opinions? Give me a break, retard.
Jonathan Morris
I dated a guy that I knew was a virgin. The sex was bad but I didn't care. I liked him and wanted to make him happy. I ended up dumping him because he was anorexic. Not that I don't empathize with anorexics. It's just that I was also anorexic and I was trying to recover, so I didn't want to end up energizing with him and end up never actually recovering. He was also very naive and I felt like I was his mom most of the time.
Before that I was married to a man with depression for four years. That shit get's really fucking old, man. I caught his depression like it was a contagious disease. The only difference between us was that instead of marinating in it forever, I got off my ass and fixed the things in my life that were contributing to me feeling sad all the time and got on anti-depressants for what I couldn't fix and overall got my shit together.
anyway the moral of the story is that women like feeling protected and seek out partners that feel steady and reliable.
Isaac Brown
yea well im not some depressed disthymic faggot who constantly burdens others I just want a cute bitch to touch my penis and by touch my penis I mean love me
consider the position of a girl. you are short and wimpy. the average guy is several inches taller than you, has 20lbs more muscle, and commands much more respect from people in positions of power. So, in any given situation, unless you appeal to someone's sympathy, a guy is more than likely to come out ahead of you. In a dating scene, if that guy decides to beat your ass and rape you, you don't have a lot of options.
if you reject a guy, he could get pissed. if you try a guy out, and decide later, he could get pissed. if you are super nice, so as not to piss him off, and try to weasel out of the situation, he will think you are playing games and either try harder, or get pissed.
so, yeah, any little thing will set alarms off in a girl's head, because the cost of being unsafe can be catastrophic. I mean, you are right. you are longing for some comfort, some love, but you can't get any unless you play this weird mind game. But, you aren't the only one stuck in this game, user.
Relationships are about two people enjoying each other. TWO people enjoying EACH other. you need to offer something, too. and when it is rejected, you don't get to drop the pretense of being a respectful, considerate human being. you are looking for another PERSON. not a pussy vending machine. Nor are you looking for validation for all the injustices you have had to endure. She is a person. do you care about her? do you want to get to know her? do you respect her?
Kayden Jenkins
I don't get that part about "emancipating" men. Society is composed of two sets of people: men and women. if women are not emancipated, but men are not emancipated either, then who is keeping them in slavery? dogs?
Josiah Brown
any girl? literally any girl? maybe it is something you don't get a lot of... when you are thirsty, even drinking from a muddy puddle is a relief. I am pretty sure you have standards as to who you will accept.
Noah Allen
treating women as some alien creature, who is mysterious and nonsensical, is a sure fire way to stay a virgin.
Ryder Allen
> then who is keeping them in slavery? dogs? No, """rats""".
The irony in these sorts of discussions is so many men are completely oblivious to how weak they really are, to be controlled so fully and easily by something as paltry as sex. If they're not oblivious to it they're too stupid to control themselves and keep things in perspective.
Most men are pathetic enough to do anything for sex, just the dull and useless ones you see online aren't worthy of anyone's attention because they are truly the dumbest of the lot because they aren't able to wrap their heads around how to solve their "problem".
Dylan Scott
desperate love is shallow when the love is shallow. Love is about understanding and caring for a specific person. think of a car. what is in it? not just the paint job and the interior, but the engine, the tires, the frame. all that stuff contributes to the car. the way it handles, the quality of the build, that is all because of the little screws and wires. And when something breaks down, it is because of those same parts.
a girl is a huge, complex pile of stuff. how can you say you love her, when you have never seen her screaming with rage? when you have never seen her dancing like an idiot? when you have never been with her when she made a horribly bad, selfish, stupid decision, and had to deal with the consequences? what you see is just the paint.
and she knows that. she knows that she stinks when she hasn't showered in two days. she knows that she is a fucking bitch on her period. You are treating her like a queen, but you don't know if she actually is a queen, or not. She knows you are just drooling over a superficial image of herself.
you are lonely and wanting a relationship, but that is just a situation. there needs to be a second person for that situation to exist. so, what you need to be focusing on is that PERSON. a girl needs do know that you want HER, not just somebody who looks like her
Landon Torres
ah... le Jew meme... always someone else. always some mysterious, outside force pulling the strings.
blame anyone but yourself.
Samuel Turner
:-) I don't agree with your post, I find virgins intriguing. Pick better females
Adrian Harris
I've always found this particular talking point amusing, if irritating. When did I ever mention my own pitfalls or misfortune being the fault of the "other"? And how can you possibly argue that there is no force greater than myself in society? If I were to say that I alone determined my destiny, everyone and everything else be damned, I'd simply be dismissed as arrogant and foolhardy to the extreme.
No shit, there are both groups and individuals with more power than your typical person, and no shit they will wield that influence to their own interest--and if your own interest clashes with it, tough fucking luck, because you are going to lose.
Is it the fault of 'da jooz' that I stubbed my toe in the morning? That I overslept and missed an exam? Doubtful. But am I getting up each day and going to work for my own sake, or to be one of many debt cattle in a system of modern serfdom? A little of both, of course, but you get the point. It's laughably false to claim that just because SOME of one's failures are one's own, that all of them must be.
The only reason this point is employed is as a deflection.
Thomas Watson
When my roommate told girls he knew through the campus that I was virgin they all wanted to be my first. I think girls have no empathy for childishness and i guess lack of confidence. Girls don't care if your a virgin all the nice guys get plenty of girls in my college its only that if YOU care that your a virgin and let it direct how you act. Just 1.Take care of yourself 2.Have confidence or the at-least not lack it entirely 3.Let go of childish customs 4.Be nice(seriously being a nice guy is such a good trait its like all these women have never encountered a nice potential partner before because all they do is fuck asshole chads).
But anyways I've been were you are at before, I looked to blame my inability to find a relationship on anything but me and if it was me I thought it was trivial shit to overcome, eventually I just got the memo and actually tried talking to girls, I suppose you can say I shedded schizoid shell off
Asher Thompson
well, you have the misfortune of collecting pics of a genocidal fascist monster, and posting them to be funny. weak minded fools who suck the toes of stronger men always blame their misfortunes on someone else. that's why they cling to loud mouthed brutes, because they want those brutes to save them.
yes, we are all small, squishy little meat sacks trying to figure out a massive, complicated world. But, with all the very real, very malevolent threats in the world, obsessing about benign threats, or making up imaginary ones, is not helpful.
See the world clearly, but remember that everything you see and experience is being filtered through the haze of your own bullshit.
Jacob Wilson
>genocidal fascist monster Oy vey!
>But, with all the very real, very malevolent threats in the world, obsessing about benign threats, or making up imaginary ones, is not helpful. So it is totally imaginary that there are people stronger than me, because I'm weaker than everyone else for pointing out that not everything is within my control. Got it--I'm only allowed to hate certain groups that, by pure coincidence, tend to oppose the same powers that you're telling me are made up and used as a crutch for individual failings.
Nobody gives a shit if youre a virgin. Desperation is pathetic. Grow a pair of nuts and work on yourself before you drool after another girl you fucking pussies
Levi Watson
Females are dumb and think you can only be either: 1. Desperate and only want her to have something to fuck. 2. A stud who fucks a different chick every day but fell in love with her wonderful personality.
Benjamin Lewis
Yeah. I get a high even if an ugly girl hits on me.
Men and women are basically different species how different we are. Alien is not too far fetched. Mars venus
Nathaniel Wood
Intrigueing perhaps, but not sexually desirable
Lincoln Parker
i remembered when i got teased by my friends when i was 17 for not having a boyfriend and being a virgin. it really upsetted me and it didnt help that my best friend would brag about how amazing her boyfriend is and how good the sex is. after that i ended up looking for a relationship and i ended up getting into a lot of stupid ones and even being sexually assaulted... lost my virginity at 20, now im 22 and I have a boyfriend (this is my second boyfriend irl)
sad thing is that my friend that teased and made fun of me told me about how she lost her virginity when she went to a club and woke up the next day in a hotel with a letter on the shelf next to her. the letter said thanks for the sex and there was a $5 note left in it.
