>muh automation
Tell me, who is going to create this automation technology that doesn't exist yet? Beaners? Chinks? Pajeets? Basedboys?
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>only retards believe in automation
FACTS
>before that the same retards believed in nanotech
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>before that the same retards believed in biotech
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Biotech does exist though. It's a huge industry.
Nanotech is coming soon.
lmao keep on truckin' you white retard
>Biotech does exist though
You're thinking of the generic term "biotech." The "biotech revolution" consisted of cloning, synthetic and mass-produced organs, cures for cancer, etc.
>Nanotech is coming soon.
Okay. Something that was already abandoned years ago is coming soon.
Your people's last great invention was the avocado, get the fuck off pol
It already exists. That's why a good portion of the population is doing bullshit jobs.
There's a "marketing" roastie at the company I work for who spends the whole day browsing the internet.
>automation technology that doesn't exist yet?
Have you set foot in a grocery store at any point in the last decade?
What you retards are not understanding is that so much more work can be done with less people. Look at the image. The largest companies in the world right now do more with less people then the largest companies of old.
>There's a "marketing" roastie at the company I work for
Roasties have been doing nothing at their office jobs for 70 years.
How do you fix your air conditioner with a kiosk? How do you conduct custom masonry, or demolish a 60-story tower with a kiosk?
>comparing software companies to physical goods companies
You are dumb. You are dumb and you need to do something about that.
>How do you fix your air conditioner with a kiosk?
Dialing a number and having an AI walk you through how to fix it
>How do you conduct custom masonry
Program what you want into a 3D printer
>or demolish a 60-story tower
Drones that plant demolition charges, or robot controlled wrecking ball.
AT&T had 750,000 employees in 1964.
AT&T had 250,000 employees in 2017.
Do you think AT&T does more, less or about the same amount of work today than it did in 1964?
Lmao this is the backwards thinking of Republicans.
Ignoring vital issues that will impact your base the hardest
All of these answers demonstrate a shocking and saddening lack of knowledge. I hope you are a teenager.
>Dialing a number and having an AI walk you through how to fix it
Air conditioners are complex machines that are sometimes illegal to fix yourself.
>Program what you want into a 3D printer
3D printers for brick?
>Drones that plant demolition charges, or robot controlled wrecking ball.
If you did this in a major city, it would be 9/11-caliber destruction. The dust cloud would reach a 250-mile diameter.
Considering that the US government split AT&T into 7 companies in the 1980s, I'd say you're retarded.
Ignoring which issues? Pervasive automation is a theory - it's fabricated. It's as real as nanomachines and FTL travel.
That is irrelevant to the question
>Do you think AT&T does more, less or about the same amount of work today than it did in 1964?
The answer is obviously that they do more. The jobs with the most economic incentive to be automated will be automated. This is econ 101. Truck driving is the most common job in like 30 states. The economic incentive to automate that job is massive. If it is possible it will be done, and it absolutely is possible.
Discord trannies aside Yang is clearly a retard that doesn't understand politics or how to win an election.
Why?
Because anyone who has dealt with voters understands that they're clinically retarded. They only think about problems that are right in front of their corpulent faces. Automation, as impactful as it already is, isn't something that can slap grandma on the ass just yet so the majority of voters never even think about it. He's wasting his fucking time.
Beyond that the true fix to automation is to bring back as much manufacturing capacity as possible and exclude foreign nationals from entering the country so you can divvy up as much of the taxable resources as possible among your own population. This pan faced asshole just wants to put whitey on the dole so he becomes even more of a servile cur.
lmao no it's absolutely relevant
don't backpedal user
But I'll humor you. AT&T's primary purpose is renting their infrastructure to customers. The clerical work has been made easier by software, but probably requires the same number of people to paperpush. The creation and maintenance of the infrastructure itself isn't automated at all, nor even will it be soon.
>Being this retarded
>that are sometimes illegal to fix yourself.
>It's illegal to fix your own property, Goy! Better hire a (((specialist)))
>3D printers for brick?
3D printers for a building
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>If you did this in a major city, it would be 9/11-caliber destruction
So you are actually retarded. Controlled detonations is how old run down buildings are brought down in major cities.
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>If it is possible it will be done, and it absolutely is possible.
Why is it possible? Who will do it?
>m-math and facts are irrelevant
>this is econ 101
>3D printers for a building
We'll just make millions of homes out of cement that costs a fortune to maintain compared to brick and wood. Good plan.
>Controlled detonations is how old run down buildings are brought down in major cities.
A. old run down buildings
B. major cities
Pick one
>no it's absolutely relevant
No its not. They perform more work with less people because of automation. The reason they lost workers does not matter, its the fact that they did not need to hire workers. Almost all new jobs being created today are temp jobs for a reason.
>The clerical work has been made easier by software, but probably requires the same number of people to paperpush
These statements are in conflict. I shouldn't need to point this out to you. If a task takes less time, then you don't need as many people to perform it. If 30% of the tasks for a role becomes automated, you can then fire 30% of staff in that role, which then comes with the added benefit of needing less mangers.
>The creation and maintenance of the infrastructure itself isn't automated at all, nor even will it be soon.
Obviously physical maintenance jobs are not going to be automated for a very long time, but thats not a particularly large share of the total jobs. I would again like to draw your attention to the truck driver.
>No its not. They perform more work with less people because of automation.
The numbers you provided don't make sense, stop making assertions.
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That's a startup.
Google is trying to automate truck drivers.
Ford is trying to automate truck drivers.
Tesla is trying to automate truck drivers.
The economic incentive to automate this job is huge, because of the number of people that perform this job. When its automated and all the unemployed truck drivers move onto something else, another job will become the most common job and it will then be the target of automation. This will not stop.
>The numbers you provided don't make sense, stop making assertions
Please feel free to point out what doesn't make sense, or post your own numbers.
What are you even saying, nigger.
There will always be jobs, yes. The amount of jobs in the future will be far fewer, however. And the education/IQ requirements for these fewer jobs will be much higher. You don’t have to be a genius to see that there’s a problem.
The key word here being "trying" - the key result here being "failing". Like flying cars, or electric cars, or solar power, none of which are on the path to being pervasive.
>it’ll never happen despite massive companies with huge brain power putting all their effort behind it, don’t worry about it
yeah ok
If you wish to dispel yourself of the mythical notions of automation that are being pushed by talking heads, I recommend you take this video course:
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Don't make decisions today based on hypothetical, overblown interpretations of technology.
I was going to post this in that automation thread that just got archived:
I'm a software engineer directly contributing to industrial automation. Unironically more people should learn to code. The way labor costs are, the trade-offs make the trend towards a larger share of manufacturing staff being programmers probably inevitable.
Your IQ doesn't need to be much more than 110 to get good enough at it to compete in the software engineer job market, especially in areas with engineer labor shortages.
Whenever I bring this up I get "muh way of life" and "I shouldn't have to adapt to market forces" and it comes across as bratty and snobbish. People like to act like you need to be a literal genius to be a coder that can provide massive amounts of value and they are also bratty and snobbish.
The answer is that you're importing more votes so that corrupt politicians can never be removed from power. This is literally the politicians way of destroying democracy and ushering in their own perpetual rule.
>What are you even saying, nigger.
>There will always be jobs, yes.
You really didn't get it. I'm saying that someone needs to make breakthroughs in AI for the automation future to occur. Diversity prevents those breakthroughs - because breakthroughs come from people, and we have the wrong people.
>The key word here being "trying" - the key result here being "failing"
>The modified Peterbilt tractor, outfitted with an array of sensors and guided by self-driving software, traveled 2,400 miles over five days along the length of Interstate 10 across the southern United States
Please at least try to make a compelling argument. Here are some self driving car videos for you, since you don't seem to be to good with reading articles.
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>Tell me, who is going to create this automation technology that doesn't exist yet?
The thing is it DOES exist. Automation is driven by an increasing cost of labor due to state intervention, not by some new scientific discovery.
>huge brain power
haha, are you kidding. they're all pajeets and chinks now man. stop living in the past
Exactly this. The "muh cheap labor" thing is a lame excuse. Except they're not destroying democracy they are just exploiting the flaws inherent in democracy.
>there's a youtube video, better prepare for the future!!
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Flying cars are here, junk your BMWs groundcucks
Already automated more than 90% of work where I wagecuck. Were it not for me I have no clue how many more people would have had jobs, but now the computers just humm away in the night hours doing what other people might have had to do. That being said, thanks to the work I did for my company, it allowed the company to became the market leader so it's not like every place replaces people to the same extent, but I'm no genius so it's just a matter of years until this level of optimization becomes the norm.
>who cares about office workers
The amount of them is obscene and when they get replaced there will be no more middle class
So have been unable to refute anything I have said in this entire thread. You now somehow feel the existence of small planes proves the impossibility of self driving cars, which currently exist.
I will repeat myself again.
>Please at least try to make a compelling argument
I've refuted everything you said, you're just not accepting it. You have so much faith in Silicon Valley, you think they can't possibly fail at something they want to achieve.
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>You have so much faith in Silicon Valley, you think they can't possibly fail at something they want to achieve
I have never claimed such, you are grasping. Its as if your argument is now "Google has failed before, so they will never succeeded at anything ever again". Obviously that is fallacious reasoning.
We have to evaluate the likely hood that self driving cars are possible. The fact that trucks have driven coast to coast autonomously, and several companies are testing self driving cars on public roads today, go to show the very high likelihood that it is possible.
You denying the working existence of this technology is embarrassing at this point.
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>I have never claimed such, you are grasping.
Scroll up. Your justification (first on the list):
>Google is trying to automate truck drivers.
>You denying the working existence of this technology is embarrassing at this point.
Your denial of flying cars is embarrassing. After all, there are YouTube videos! Videos - on YouTube!!
what are yang's chances? i don't like the other runners because politics have always been their career
>what are yang's chances?
0% - I'm just salty that automation is a meme among ourguys, who should know better. But, promise NEETs free money, they'll believe anything...
You don't have a realistic non-meme solution to people losing their jobs. Illegal immigration is being imported at the highest point of not only this presidency but also Obama's. Legal immigration is ramping up to fill in those high skilled positions. You think that the millions of whites with highschool diplomas posed to lose their jobs are the ones creating automation tech and maintaining them? Fuck no. The unemployment rate is supposedly low but the fact is that it doesn't count people who simply stopped looking for jobs. The labor participation rate is low, especially among young males. All those supposed new jobs are like 93% temp, gig, or contract. Wages have stagnated heavily for how many years now. Our retraining success rate is 0-15%. A huge amount of the work we do now is work for the sake of work. Many empty hours that don't get anything really done is rampant. The soul crushing jobs are also rampant, especially when looking at wage slave jobs in walmart or amazon or even the fucking government. The entire situation is fucked. There's no fixing it. Delusional boomer fantasies aren't going to fix this shit. Whether or not you like Yang is irrelevant. His winning, policies, and implementation were always irrelevant from the beginning. The entire importance of Yang were the issues and debates surrounding him. Especially the existential question of not only the future of this country but the very future of the Right.
>all that text
nope
>You don't have a realistic non-meme solution to people losing their jobs.
That is a fictitious problem - unemployment is rather low.
>Tell me, who is going to create this automation technology that doesn't exist yet?
most factories can be automated ever since the 80s. when people complain of lost factory work they need to realize america was going to lose 90% of that regardless. germany recently brought factories back to germany only to have to tell every one they wouldnt be getting any real increase in total jobs in the country because they opted for max automation
also you should watch how its made my nigger. lot of shit requires few people. now imagine if the post office was run as efficiently
Look at Japan's unmployment rate and tell me ONE MORE TIME
tell me MOTHERFUCKER
Tell me that automation is bad for our jeeeewbs
>The unemployment rate is supposedly low but the fact is that it doesn't count people who simply stopped looking for jobs. The labor participation rate is low, especially among young males. All those supposed new jobs are like 93% temp, gig, or contract.
Absolute fucking brainlet boomer. Go back to r/donald or /ptg/ you retarded migapede.
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>most factories can be automated ever since the 80s.
Chinese people don't count as automation
>*twist* *pop*
>*sips onions milk*
Now factories, that's some real automation
>meanwhile, in a factory
Regarding air conditioners, a lot of research nowadays in fields like HVAC and plumbing goes into making parts required less and less maintenance, have more autonomy, and be easier to fix or isolate in case of a fault.
Of course, this doesn't eliminate the need for plumbers or HVAC technicians, and it won't for quite a while. But gradually, you'll simply need fewer and fewer of those technicians.
Automation isn't just a blank on/off think that overnight replaces every single human worker. What it does do is gradually marginalize human workers.
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Retards talking about automation look like pic related to any informed person
i don't even think that far ahead because i assume the world as we know it will be gone within 50 years
You retard, how can you fail so hard at understanding the issue at play?
How much do you suppose those employees are getting paid? How many vacation days do you suppose they have? How much maternity leave do you suppose they take?
Of course if we revert to practical fucking slavery, automation won't be as popular. After all, people simply go for the cheapest option. For example, in the field of IT, hiring 20 retarded pajeets is cheaper than hiring one senior programmer in the US, even if each Pajeet is only worth 1/20th of the senior programmer. But if you offer people actual living wages, then yes, automation becomes financially more interesting than paying decent wages to employees.
This isn't actually true and makes me believe you are speaking from speculation.
Air conditioners have remained roughly the same in terms of reliability. They have changed, however, to be less maintainable by the owner. This is so that you will buy a new unit rather than hire a professional to fix your current one (both are expensive, so...).
Who cares about automation ? It's like ̶g̶l̶o̶b̶a̶l̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ climate change™, a fake threat to give a reason to advance your hidden agenda. I don't want to be taxed to death for the "weather", but I want €1000/month of free money. Every stupid shit you do guys, we mimic it a few years later. Currently we are on the gender shit and white privilege, totally out of place for a country like France, we even have our own version of black live matter. I want my YangBucks, just fucking secure the bag already, you damn mong !
>he doesn't want atom powered personal helicopters
lmao what a pleb
This is the patrician take. Any major city in the West would look like a third-world country to someone from 1962. Imagine what 2062 will look like if something doesn't shake things up.
Those order-here kiosks at mcDonalds and other fast food restaraunts when tested almost ALL have FECAL MATTER on them.
I wish I could take back all the hours I spent on Engadget/The Verge, licking (((Ray Kurzweil's))) taint, and dreaming about fantasytech.
lol
kiosks are for autotards what pictures of piles of shoes are for jews
My people's last great invention was white genocide
Even after Whites are gone, it will still suck to be a nigger
>google will make self-driving cars