The fact that the climate apocalypse has already started and we can't reverse it even if we emit 0% carbon dioxide In the atmosphere is scaring the shit out of me
5% increase in global temp by the end of the century is inevitable and will most likely lead to death of every living being on earth
Then why go on like usual, shouldn't we all be in panic mode and take serious steps to avert this as much as we can which no governmental body is doing, we should put all of our resources into taking out the greenhouse gases with whatever tech we have and conduct research with global cooperation
I'm having second thoughts about having childern or studying when it will all be over so soon.
And the fact that I live in a third world country makes it even worse because or shit does down there will be mass starvation and civil war
Climate change is causing anxiety
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It really is a scare tactic to make you care. People telling you about it don’t care and are figuring idiots like you will do something for them. There is a problem, the U.S. and other countries are trying to solve it. If you want to relax, make an effort to solve the problem at a minor scale.
Also, fuck China because they’re the ones who are shitting us all.
>lead to death of every living being on earth
that's where you are wrong, kiddo.
Your irrational fear by irrational science is fucking you up.
Dude, we’re all going to die anyway.
Climate change for the most part just means more hurricanes and shit. Couple hundred feet of flooding tops. By all means life will still be possible. People overhype every apocalypse.
I don't think individual change can really do anything,the problem really needs to be solved on a macro level to have any effect
Most of the planet will be a desert with only sparse regions of cost in the Siberia,Canada and some parts of northern Europe which will be farmable also when it gets to 5% increase it will mean almost full depletion of the ozone which is what will lead to almost all life being wiped out by radiation
I really don't think people are over hyping it but are ignoring it
Literally no one is talking about all this in my country and it is depressing
I don't think production is the problem, but the market with its useless fucking competition,planned obsolescence and general lack of respect for goods it creates among the people
If we had longer lasting goods that were easier to repair it would've reduced the amount of pollution a lot
Also not having 1000000 companies producing the same shit doesnt help
What a waste of resources
Also having 1000000 companies producing the same shit doesnt help *
It‘s a hoax user. Don‘t let them get to you.
ehh whatever, we were faced with endless wars a hundred years ago, and after that the risk of nuclear genocide, our parents and grandparents worried a lot about it, same way we worry about the climate.
It isnt the same
False equivalency
I don't care anymore. Since no one cares, I will get a big audinq7 from work and drive the shit out of it. And fly around the world.
What about shit going down in your lifetime like within a 2 or 3 decades how fan you have kids and think about making a "future" when there isnt one
You said it yourself. There is no future. No way to avoid it. The gunshot moment probably happened already. All we can do now is wait and party.
>I'm an incel because of the weather
keep it up, this is gold
Where did I say I'm an incel?
I'm saying that I'm not sure if I want to have kids who will have no future
We can do something about it if we at least give it a serious try but people are too disorganised and distracted to do that
Again just being a hedonist and waiting for thr world to end wouldn't be that enjoyable when the end is long and painful
There is many ways to survive it, also why care so much ? If it happen we can't do something about it at our scale, what we can do however is prepare for it.
Yah I had these panic attacks over climate change back in 2008 so now I just try not to think about it and live my life carelessly. Since no one wants to take on the responsibility of living greener & we’re all gonna die, might as well make the most out of it *shrug*
How do you suggest preparing?
I'm from a not so affluent family in a third world country
I don't see any way I'm gonna survive
The only hope I see is that if we have a mass movement which establishes like communes or societies that work on the principle of mutual aid and which us very egalitarian and democratic, something like rojava or better
Eh, who cares, we'll be dead before the planet goes under.
Where exactly ? What are your precipitations ? What are your average temperature ? I may have some infographics,links or books about it on my Jow Forums happening hardrive to help you.
The commune idea is a decent one but it generally don't end well in the long term.
I live near Mumbai,india
I know that if civilization collapses due to extreme weather India will be hit the hardest,its well on it's way to become the most populace country in the world and with limited resources conflict is bound to occur in the near future for basic stuff like water
Yeah,it's indeed not the best place to be when it'll be happening. I will try to dump some helpful things once my shift ends.
My first advice would be to try to find a reliable source of water and prepare a sort of filtration device and keep ypur morale high. I mean we overcame more than 20 000 years of diseases, wars and catastrophic event,it's not like we have no chances to overcome it. I'll be coming back in 2 hours to dump.
Same here OP. I'm depressed all of the time and these thoughts don't help me. I can't muster up energy to do anything because I just think what's the point if the world is going to end in my lifetime. There's literally no point doing anything in life anymore
>likely lead to death of every living being on earth
ROFL
>Then why go on like usual, shouldn't we all be in panic mode and take serious steps to avert this as much as we can
but wait, didn't you say
>we can't reverse it even if we emit 0% carbon dioxide
Why should we do anything or give even half of a fuck if there's nothing we can do to reverse it?
>I'm having second thoughts about having children
So don't have kids, no problem, there's plenty of people who will have more than enough kids to overpopulate the earth for the next generation.
>And the fact that I live in a third world country makes it even worse because or shit does down there will be mass starvation and civil war
Why not be a prepper then? Maybe it will alleviate some of your anxiety knowing that you are well prepared.
We can still reverse it if we do something in the next few years.
Unlikely since a lot of idiots still believe it's a hoax even while California is burning, hurricanes are destroying the gulf, and the midwest is getting buried under snow in April.
If you guys ever picked up any biology textbook in your life, you'd know animals thrive in warm climates and that it provides a better environment for most creatures rather than cold ones. Unfortunately you idiots don't know how to fucking read and instead rely on the popsci that's being shitted out by CNN or Fox or whatever.
>let's just get rid of our greenhouse gases :ddd
Without greenhouse gases, most people on this planet would be dead and most animals and plant life would have perished.
This is why I don't want to live on this fucking planet. God damn.
Animals thrive in a set range of temperatures. Warmer isn't necessarily better.
It's best for the majority and it's the majority that matters most in life.
Yes if all the forests in the world became deserts animal live would explode in numbers never seen before because warm=good
You fucking retard it's going to be so """warm""" that people will die in drones from heat strokes
I don't even know what that means in ecological terms, stop talking bollocks.
I live where heat strokes happen a lot. It's mainly elderly folk.
Besides, a forest can exist within a desert technically though you're making the jump that deserts are barren wastelands when they're not. You claim that a forest will become a desert (which I'll assume you mean like sandy Sahara ones) which could only become possible under the conditions that all plant life in said forest dies out and is replaced with weeds. What happens is the weeds will over grow throughout the area and break down the soil to dust by making the ground rock hard (drying it) before the weeds themselves dry up from lack of water and wither away. Then you get a sandy desert. This could also happen with over farming but it's reversible if so by not overfarming. We learned this in school so you should know. Another aspect which would be required would be a lack of humidity which is the most dangerous part and also the hardest part to remove/replace. If a forest is thriving, their humidity isn't at stake so that shouldn't matter.
That said, people who live in arctic areas are 1:250 to people who live even in deserts so warm weather still isn't a problem for humans. Cold weather climate change is more of an issue for people who live in warm regions than warm weather to cold.
Certain clades radially speciate to fit different niches. The species that fit the cold environments will always be less than those that fit warm ones. Therefore, if the cold niche species die out (or in the case with Polar bears, they're intermixing with the warmer temperature grizzlies), the warm ones will thrive until the climate reverses again where they can radially speciate to fit the cold environment niche by unlocking dormant genes that allow for higher caloric intake, thicker fur coats, etc.
Source to back up this claim?
>still failing to understand the full implication of warming
>still ignoring that its negative effect on species suited to warmer climates is already being witnessed
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The arctic vs. warmer climate and which is better for human survivability shouldn't be something you need sources on since it's common sense but here.
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>Adapting to hot environments is as complex as adapting to cold ones. However, cold adaptation is usually more difficult physiologically for humans since we are not subarctic animals by nature. We do not grow dense fur coats nor do we usually have thick layers of fat insulation like polar bears. Despite this reality, more people die from heat than cold in the United States every year.
That said, more people actually live in warm regions in the US than the cold ones. see below
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>John Flavin - Geologic and Engineering Advisor
>There are far more desert dwellers than indigenous people in cold climates. Cold is a more deadly agent than heat.
>There is simply more biodiversity and food available south of the polar and sub-polar zones. If populations numbers are any indication of healthy human stock, the warmest regions win 250 to 1.
>In total, only about 4 million people live in the Arctic circle worldwide.
Something I will mention that's a bit unrelated is that warm climates force animals...
... to sweat and sweat releases hormones to make them more prone to violence and aggression.
I'm as bitter about the coral reefs as anyone else but life on earth is highly adaptable to their environment unless the species experiencing it are too specialized to acclimate in which their eventual extinction was already in the workings for millions of years so it doesn't really matter either way in the end. You're missing the point of radial speciation though which is that when some species die out, others will speciate and replace the niche the extinct ones filled.
What do you think of the idea that greenhouse effect will get out of hand and spiral above 5 degree increase which will then lead to near complete depletion of the ozone layer and the radiation is what will kill most life?
>and spiral above 5 degree increase
Not a big deal because I'm not an albino
>then lead to near complete depletion of the ozone layer
Not going to happen. Ozone is like a renewable resource. It's part of a cycle of oxygen fission and fusion though I guess the big issue is that it's in low amounts. If it were to increase, I'd assume the planet would radically cool and if it were to decrease, the planet would radically warm. If the planet warms, the oxygen molecules'll probably be more volatile to fission and fusing into ozone again making it so the planet would cool down again I guess. I don't know. If there's a chemistry person who knows this stuff, pls educate me on it cus that's just my hypothesis. Then again I think the big issue isn't just the warming but the chlorofluorocarbons.
I'm pretty anti-anti-ozone and I try to never use aerosol though I'm searching it up and a lot of nations are phasing out using anything that would damage our ozone which is good. There's a lot of things that can happen to this planet that could devastate most life like the meteor, but if the ozone fucked off, then the planet would be pretty much gone.
>radiation is what will kill most life
That said, underground cities are lit af.
OP, you just do what you can on a small scale. If everyone does this, we can collectively start making a change for the better. For example, I make sure to recycle all of my plastics and cardboards. I don't buy plastic straws or paper plates. And whenever I'm in my car I blast my AC with the windows down to cool off the outside air a little. Same inside, I put my AC on 55 F and open my windows to try to cool off the outside. My electricity bill is higher, but it's a small price to pay for keeping the world alive that much longer.
Our climate models are shit. The IPCC continually revises their models (downward). The current model shows something like a 1 degree C change by the end of the century at our current rate. BFD. Given the insane technological advancement we've seen in the last 200 years, I have no doubt we'll be able to adapt and overcome. Hell, as the other user pointed out, even if we did nothing, we'd still adapt biologically. But we'll probably just fix the problem with some sweet Glade Air Purifier tech.
If you are so afraid you should just kill your self now. People like me will be here long after you ended your genetic line you liberal bitch boy
Great bait you fucking mong
This is all wrong. Also carbon scrubbing is extremely inefficient and uses was too much energy to even be feasible.
We're fucked, guys.
Climate change is a meme made to scare first worlders into not having kids, so they can enslave the third world in peace.
>fuck China because they’re the ones who are shitting us all.
lol because it's not the west that is enabling china, uh-huh
btw per capita the usa is really shit with emissions
i do see an increase in attention in like the past few months, hopefully we can ride that wave...
there are some changes in the good direction, just not big enough in scale yet.
eg. the plastic bag bans have been proven to be working already!
>being this retarded
Yeah, fuck China for supplying us with cheap labor, right?
How could you actually believe this nonsense?
Scientists say so. But yeah, Trump is smarter than those retards with degrees, huh?
You really think the world will end ? Where are your 'facts' from?
also, mars will be colonized before the end of humanity so what's your point anyway?
all i'm saying is we get what we pay for. if you don't want to pay the price of locally, perhaps somewhat more sustainably made products, then voila, you get unsustainable shit.
must be some religious dummy... the earth not being habitable by humans and therefore humans going extinct is not the same as the world ending. the universe is going to be fine, it's just our species is dying out very very soon. potentially even before we get to mars properly.
Fuck off with this shit. You want to live on fucking Mars?! Not to mention colonizing Mars is absolutely unfeasible and even if it wasn‘t, none of us would be rich enough to go there.
>none of us would be rich enough to go there.
hehehehe
>another off topic bait thread disguised as asking for advice
5% is literally nothing, for most places it’s just a few degrees why do you think that will kill everything on the planet? How do we survive through regular seasons?
This is problem when you don’t think critically about a situation and simply accept everything you’re told. The planet goes through heating and cooling cycles naturally and whilst we’re influencing it, we and many other species have survived very extreme conditions (ice ages, floods, severe heat). The nature of life is adaptation and we are the best animals at it. I am very confident that we will come up with a solution to living in that world, what ever it may be. If we don’t then we deserved to die but we could never have lived for ever anyway, the sun has it’s own life expectancy.
Mate you really need to stop watching Info Wars ffs
Plants thrive in a CO2 rich atmosphere, they aren’t going to die because we pump more out. If you don’t believe me look up the impact of volcanoes on vegetation.
Deforestation for commercial use is an issue but it’s never going to be left to get to cause us extinction. Many feel very passionate about their local nature and wouldn’t let it suddenly go if only for aesthetic reasons.
Please point out which claim I made was false.
All of them.
If you don’t understand a topic well enough to debate it why even have an opinion.
dude gtfo, and sit in the first library you find
Im sorry but I was asking about anxiety realting to climate change
Didn't mean to start a full blown discussion on the science of climate change
If you want to stick to the original question you're welcome
The point of science is that once a theory has been stated you look for evidence to challenge or support it but you seem to be able to do neither and have just resorted to ad homineming. If this is the state of avid climate change supporters then the planet deserves to get burnt up.
>Let's go to Mars and terraform it to make it habitable to humans
"Yes but can't we just do that on earth and make it habitable first?"
>no lmao but what about mars my hero trillionaire Jeff Bezos and Elon musk (who btw are just like Tony stark) said we need to put our resources and resreach into colonizing Mars
The point is that your anxiety is unfounded. You evidently don’t really understand the issue and you’re not open to challenging it. Everything in life is subjective and you can choose what to perceive. Thinking the world is great or terrible are equally wrong because it simply is but if it has to be one then you’ll have a better life as an optimist than a pessimist.
>Everything in life is subjective
No