Tips on career advancement ?

So, obviously say that instead?

Why are you even spending time to make that post. Are you defective? This is so completely obvious

This is terrible advice

OP NEVER accept a counter offer.

Like just voice your opinions. Tell your boss that YOU ARE NOT HAPPY. Stop being secretly unhappy. He needs to know. He wants to know

fuck it just tell him tomorrow

why?

Dude, think about it. You went to work as a repair tech (with a degree!!!) with hopes to work your way up. You get excellent performance reviews, as a tech. Why would they cut one of their good techs to give them a better position? Its a lose/lose situation for them. Its more beneficial for them to promote a shitty tech and keep you as a workhorse.

Either demonstrate to them you would have more value/productivity as an engineer or start looking for engineer positions somewhere else.

Sure. Go tell mommy you're not feeling well. This kind of actions are the reasons you won't advance in your career.

Because you already reveal yourself as a flight risk .

I think it's better for him to look for a tech job elsewhere and strive to be just above average there .

It's not really a healthy employee employer relationship.

There is no such thing as a flight risk, this isn't prison bail....

Everyone at the office is only working for money, otherwise they wouldn't be here. The only reason they keep coming back is because they get *enough* money. If they don't get enough, then the boss needs to know, he WANTS to know.

Like, by your logic, everyone is a flight risk. It's a perverted way of rationalizing accepting a lower salary and not advancing. Terrible advice really.

You're playing with the ambiguity of my words. It's obvious when I said "happy" that I meant not satisfied with your salary. It's something your boss WANTS to and NEEDS to know. It's not annoying, or something he doesn't want.

This thread is peculiar in how bad the advice is.

Lurkers beware, never embrace despair. Miserable people don't want to see you succeed. Unfortunately, there are many poor people on this board. Which means, they don't know how to make money. Don't take advice from people who don't know how to do it. They're only miserable and want to hurt you.

Success favors men with a BIAS FOR ACTION.

yes, why? Explain

Because as I see it, it's perfectly healthy in the normal course of business and these kinds of choices have led me to success and other people I've observed.

I think your comment is baseless and rooted in cowardice.

>There is no such thing as a flight risk
Of course there is
If the employer knows ahead of time you are willing to leave they will give you the counter offer to hold on to you just long enough to find your replacement then fire you.

That's against the law and opens them up for a simple, easy, and very expensive lawsuit.

EVERYONE is a flight risk at work. If you don't pay them enough, they leave. Bosses are not stupid, they already know this. that is why the WANT TO and NEED TO know if you're dissatisfied with your pay.

There is no such thing as "flight risk"

I do not understand why you're giving such terrible advice. But anyone with eyes to see, can see how harmful you are being and nobody is falling for this.

>That's against the law
No it's not

>That's against the law
Even if that were true theres no way to prove that to a court.

yes it is, in every single western country

> prove that to a court.
There's nothing to prove, the LACK of evidence is what counts. You can't fire someone without a reason. Even, generally speaking, in "at-will" you still need a reason to fire someone.

If there's not a reason, the case is over. You win, and you win BIG. These are some of the easiest lawsuits to win, especially in liberal states/Europe.

Your guys advice is awful, and somehow, for some reason I cannot understand, you believe there is such thing as a "flight risk" in employment. That is such a fucking joke. Literally everyone who is employed is a "flight risk". The only reason we work is for pay.

I just... can't even.

If your employer is that fussed about keeping you, then he won't offer you a 2-weeks notice contract... he'll ask you to sign a yearlong, or multi-year contract until he reclaims his investment into you or fulfills his goals. He'll ask you to renew it in advance, according to his needs.

You guys are either:
1) Dreadfully inexperienced with the goings of employment and success
2) Malicious

Either way, your advice is terrible and you should delete system32.

OP, I just remembered, if you're in a union, then just call them and ask for advice. That's what they're there for and they are perhaps the best people to go to.

Explain exactly what you want, why you believe you deserve it, and ask for advice how to get it. They'll even help you if needed. Like talking to your boss for you.

I did tell him
When I got passed up for being volunteered to assist the engineering department and during my performance review.

>You can't fire someone without a reason
And employer can always find a reason

I see.

Then, I think if I was you, after 4 years and stagnation, consider working somewhere else.

First, honestly inventory yourself. Is there any reason you shouldn't have been promoted? Anything bad about you; thing you can or should improve?

If no, then yeah your hands are pretty much tied and it's time to explore elsewhere. In 2019 it's more than normal to work at more than one company in your life. Don't be scared to do it.

It has to be a good reason ,it can't be because you left the toilet seat up.

The judges are very good when it comes to stuff like this. They know when an employer is misbehaving.

In any case, the appeal you're making now is one of despair and fear. DO NOT live your life according to despair and fear. That will guarantee you don't become a success.

SO yeah, your advice is still terrible and you're just doubling-down on the awful advice.

gonna piggyback here but what do I do if I just can't fucking stand working typical office jobs? My degree is in accounting but the jobs make me utterly miserable to the point of becoming suicidal. the pay isn't anything to write home about, and it's really high-stress and high standards. tons of office politics. i just can't stand it.
I have a certain hobby I'm hoping to make profitable (I am really, really good at it and there is money to be made here.) but it alone probably won't pay the bills; however, I do it for fun in my freetime.

I've been thinking about doing alternative jobs that may be less horrible than office jobs. I know about apartment management, cruise ships, resorts, bartending, etc. I have some bartending experience and something related to apartment management, so it's not impossible for me to get these. I live pretty cheap. The only issue is that I have 30k in student loans outstanding, and I need to make enough to get that paid off.

So I'm at a crossroads whether I should keep pursuing the accounting career (after 3 years of attempting this I haven't made any more money than just covering my living expenses due to bouts of unemployment between temp contracts) where I'll certainly be miserable, or if I should go wild and pursue the alternative jobs, essentially throwing my degree away but oh well. and don't say teach english, that's out for certain reasons. my only issue is that I'm rather anemic and somewhat weak, so I can't do farm labor or anything intensive.

What do? The more I think about it, the more I can't stand the idea of staying in accounting. it has made me miserable and has not resulted in profit, so to hell with it, right?

But even if I go to a employer I still need to know how to play the game.

Check out that book I mentioned earlier (first reply). I could give you advice, but I know everything I learned about this stuff was from that book, or my personal experience confirms everything written in that book. It may do you a lot of good.

But if I were to offer a few tips, just be super honest and really put your neck out there. Don't be afraid to fail, afraid to walk away from a bad deal, or afraid of rejection. I think these fears helped put you into this situation, so you should embrace a little risk-taking to get you out.

I would be extremely skeptical of any book with the the word "rich" in the title

It's a classic, written in the 30s, and massively popular.

I assume you are OP. You seem quite unmotivated to actually fix your problem and more interested in complaining. If you just want to vent, then there'"s a thread for that

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