Not advice but just question...

>the human condition can be completely explained by physiology

and are you implying there is some part of the human condition that can't be explained by physiology?

>man I am so edgy and smarter than those dumb normies
You have to be 18 to post here, kiddo.

Of course you don't, because it would require you to face the consequences of being wrong about your skewed world view and your collection of presuppositions you have about people around you. If people can surprise you, you've already played yourself, so you can figure out just how naive you are without making a fool of yourself in public. Consider pursuing this level of self-reflection, or having a birthday, since you sound young.

Do what you want.

Your relationship is a bond in the end and that is determined by forces outside your control with no quantifiable variable on this planet and that is love.

If you don't want love then settle for what you asked for, which is fine.

Not everyone can be so lucky

Yes. Build a model and win a Nobel prize. Until then, shut the hell up because there is still a shit ton of things about the human brain that we can't explain yet. Patterns of behavior are predictable. The intricacies involving the behavior itself are not. If you weren't 12 and actually read literature, you'd know this.

what someone has/earned is an extension of what he is. You wouldn't say the same about knowledge as you would money would you?
so its ok if its the biggest priority but not ok if its the only priority?
The problem with this is a lot of times our biggest priority is actually our only priority, meaning we will make compromises on the other things we look for without even knowing it. For example, if a guy finds a girl beautiful hes going to find her personalty a lot more attractive/interesting even if he would otherwise not. we don't judge each trait of a person individually, each trait influences how we think about the other.
well said desu, who we are as a person is entirely genetic(we have no control over) and environmental(we have no control over). You can sometimes move environments obliviously but still you dont control how the environment affects you.

>genetic
Don't use words you don't understand

could you explain then?

Because physical attraction isnt just skin deep. Theres body language and smell which are HUGE parts of attracting the opposite sex and express who you are as a person, and make you individual.

Money on the other hand isnt indestinguishable, one dollar you own is no different than one dollar owned by someone else.

Well, this doesn't answer your question, but consider the following:

Why do you care?

Well, you're not altogether wrong but it's a bit more nuanced than that. A dollar earned as a sex trafficker does have a different social value and level of risk than a dollar earned as a nurse.

Gotta admit, having a high class sex worker as a mate has got to be interesting, nerve wracking but interesting.

Just because you date a guy with money doesn't mean you have more money yourself

the word for this type of person is gold digger

>Why is it considered bad for a women to like a man for his money but ok if she likes him for his physical appearance/personality.
It's not.

>Physical appearance and personality are largely genetic, they are for the most part given to you for absolutely no work.
Cringe.

Y I K E S kid

Eh maybe. I mean a lot of professional chefs and such just want to do simple easy relaxing meals while at home. I imagine that a high end escort would give very nice blowjob's and handjobs but otherwise wouldn't want to go crazy because it would be kind of like work.

Exactly, also you would have to be fine with them havin sex with other people aspect. I think i might be fine with it if she told me initially but fuck if i know if the girl i am dating says "i like you, but you should know before we get serious i am an escort".

Eh, I'm a realist. I think the point at which they must inform me (or anyone else they choose to date) is some point prior to sexual activity. There's always a risk and I should be allowed to make that choice.

I mean yeah, they'll likely be hot as fuck and I'd be ready to blow my load at the slightest brush of their fingertips (meaning there's no way I would refuse) but it's the principle of the thing.

Depends on their personality and how much i like them. I can see myself dating an escort.

The ones i met were lovely people even when they didnt have to be.

I am dating an escort. Of course it's an open relationship, so I also can fuck other girls. But it's kinda nice to get for "free" what others pay for.

>what someone has/earned is an extension of what he is.
This is possibly the shallowest thing I have ever heard. To make real money in this world you must walk over all in your path. You can't be kind and rich, unless you win the lottery or some uberinheritance, the corporate world is built that way. To say moneybox any sort of reflection of ones character is nonsense. I choose to live with less luxuries than most, this does not make me less than most just don't care for comfort.

>Well off guy meets girl.
>She likes his money, nothing else about him.
>She spends all his money
>Leaves

That is the fear basically.
Men wants to provide for their family. The risk is that they get tricked and people steal their stuff.

>Physical appearance and personality are largely genetic, they are for the most part given to you for absolutely no work.
Yeah, no.

>most of the time it takes a large amount of effort/hard work to make a lot of money.
Hahaha No.

Based.

>which ultimately makes social nuance a non-existent construct
Did that make sense when you wrote it?

user somehow fucked up by mentioning muh normies but you're being a total kiddo too by calling a scientific explanation edgy.

>there is still a shit ton of things about the human brain that we can't explain yet
The parts relevant to the topic here are simply hard to prove in an experiment and the complexity makes it extra tricky too but the muh biochemical reaction is still the most sensible reasoning we have.

If we apply your extra strict criteria on other topics, we basically don't know shit about shit, which is fair enough but not a very constructive attitude.

Cringe

most of the well off guys were born into it
also, you are a prostitute

Personalities aren't genetic. Not sure how you arrived at that.

As a person who knows of a few "gold diggers", they are the scum of the planet. That's why people don't like girls who solely like a man for their money. The money should at the very most be an added bonus. The reason looks are loved is because we evolved to look at appearance. The reason we look at personality is because, well... Would you wanna stay with with someone you didn't mesh well with?

No, you wrong. I grew up apart from my dad but people who knew him, are telling me that I act like him all the time

Almost like there is a limit amount of personality traits and almost like it's likely that people who knew him would focus on the stuff when looking at you.

As long as you are happy, i am happy.

I dont think an open relationship is for me, not like i am a ladies man..

That doesn't mean it's genetic. You're influenced by your surroundings, that's what creates your personality.

>Physical appearance and personality are largely genetic
both of those are inherent to the PERSON, not the social/legal framework surrounding him.
If a woman is legitimately sexually attracted to rich/powerful men that is one thing, but being with a man BECAUSE of the money alone
when a woman is married to a hot guy she would be sad if he died.
when a woman is married to a rich guy she would not be sad if he died.

ITT: people with no business discussing anything to do with social graces discuss social graces.

>considered bad
Not by me. Financial success is a measurable indicator of the kind of person you are getting. There aren't classes and circumstances. We are all in the same game and there ain't no rules.

Never insult if you do not then educate you brute

>there is no such thing as social classes

I'm gonna need a citation for that one pal

I cant disprove a negative. The burden of proof isn't on me. Nobody's stopping you from getting rich and if they are, you ain't trying hard enough.

Im not rich by the way. But im not pussy enough to blame others for that.

>I cant disprove a negative

These words form a sentence yet mean nothing

>The burden of proof isn't on me

Yes it is. You said it. We have fucking tax brackets and all the sudden we don't?

>Nobody's stopping you from getting rich

As another user said. Most people that have money come from money. This is just basic knowledge of the real world street smarts.

>you ain't trying hard enough.

You can move up to Upper Middle Class with a College Education and Rich with Luck and Entrepreneurship, but my point still stands

There are classes and that's all I am now educating you on Mr. Pull Yourself Up by your bootstraps.

Your own post even admits it

Yes there is such a thing as circumstance and classes

Those are very real and if you don't know that then you are retarded

mainly because not all money is gained through hard work its inherited just like Genetics. A lot of people work their asses off to make a living getting no where. Working out and working of your social skills is something we all can achieve, almost all.

But what are you attracted to? There's a big difference between liking a rich man's work ethic and ambition, and simply liking his money.

If the first doesn't make sense, you don't understand.

You also don't understand the legal meaning of burden of proof.
People who come from money come from people who GOT money
A tax bracket isn't a class. The bracket you are in depends on your success
Don't be buthurt that money is a very acceptable criterion for bitches to pick a dude.

blah blah blah blah blah

I don't give two fucks

Your Snark just pisses me off

I don't much like it either. That's just how it is.

fair enough

That was actually kinda funny.

>that makes soibois and incels really pissed when I talk about it IRL.
hmmm... a black person?

There goes the neighborhood

not that user but here is the thing. Having a career is a bit different than just having money. Though I understand your logic of money being a factor, it really depends on how he is getting it. Like being a Doctor where the other side is "my dad owns a dealership." Then there is the girl herself. Is she the type who is looking for financial security or is she looking for a credit card with arms an legs. The two are completely different from each other and it often branches off to more complex reasonings.
So back on OP's question, it just depends on how the man made his gained if at all and what kind of woman and why she wants that Male for his money.

tips fedora

But we could say. She just wants a walking dick, cook, mechanic, comedian. Doctor, drug dealer. They all provide a service that people want. Why would I wish to judge another's decisions and assume I have the morality. We don't need to make people feel like shit for following their harts. No matter how black they look to us.

The thread has gotten a little off topic but circling around again it's bad for a woman (not 'a women' you illiterate fuck) to like a man for his money because it isn't really an extension of him. If the money is the big draw to liking him, and some guy robs the bank/safe/whatever where the money was kept then to be consistent the woman's attraction should go to the robber who now holds the money. That is the most extreme kind of disloyalty and men HATE that. While it is often forbidden these days to even mention that men have standards for women to meet - being loyal is one of them and instinctually it is a big one.

Another issue is morality. Say the woman cares less about the nest egg capital and is more attracted to the industriousness and ability to generate wealth and resources. This is getting pretty close to an intrinsic quality of the man himself which sounds pretty good, but there are still some problems. Some of the worst lowlifes and scum of the earth are industrious and can generate wealth - drug dealers, organized crime, sex trade smugglers, hitmen, etc. There is always going to be a bigger badass out there who is more hardcore than you and willing to cross more moral lines than you to get an extra dollar. If a woman is okay with this it's a sign she would be a bad partner and specifically mother. It also means you can also just lose her to someone more industrious when they come along regardless of commitment giving so far or the morality of their work. Imagine buying a house to raise a family together but she leaves you for a guy who is paid $8,000 every time he rapes a toddler and $4,000 every time he tortures a puppy. He is more industrious than you and that's all that matters. That's what it means when the attraction isn't rooted in unchangeable characteristics of the man himself.

But I mean, if you were to speculate...do you really think that any of our behavior arises from somewhere outside of our brain?

> A large part of the evidence collected linking genetics and the environment to personality have come from twin studies. This "twin method" compares levels of similarity in personality using genetically identical twins. One of the first of these twin studies measured 800 pairs of twins, studied numerous personality traits, and determined that identical twins are most similar in their general abilities.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_psychology#Genetic_basis_of_personality

Can you explain to me how appearance/personality are not mostly genetic?

Appearance, personality
Yeah, No

>i was born a rude and obese cunt, i fell out of my moms cunt like that

pathetic

Not the cunt but you put two "cunts" in one line and if I had a cunt, I would have laughed it off.

Being obese does not mean you are unattractive, you could lose weight and become attractive.
Attractiveness starts in face, for men, women look for full lips, highforehead, broad face, smallchin, small nose, short and narrow jaw, high cheekbones,wide-set eyes. All largely genetic
And personality is also scientifically proven to be mostly genetic, and the other part of your personality is determined by mimicking your parents as a baby, something else you can't control.
Being rude is not a personality trait, it's the lack of manners. Your personality can be straightforward and always honest though if that's what you mean?

Nah just the little respect I had for u, blacks have a gene that's puts them a few diviations below white. Fuck black guys if you want dumb adhd kids honestly. Plus any nigger will bolt if ur pregnant and its a boy

Lol you went too deep bro. Have a beer.

>appearance
Assuming you're born somewhat complete and mostly healthy, genetics affect the rough shapes and how tall you are (although even here live-style matters but since it's stuff you do as a kid, let's count it for factors out of your control). Oh and there is having a beard, that shit can be tough luck.

But even if you have great genetics, you'll look mediocre at best if you don't work on improving it, just like you can improve a lot even if you didn't win the lottery. (And here genetics only affect somehow how easy it is). Plus things like haircut and clothing and whatever body modifications you want to do are free for all. And this is before we even touch surgery.

>personality
Some bits are genetic, some from environment and most of these are just raw material one can work with further unless you're some kind of unlucky fuck born with quarter of a brain. Of course people who born from relatively healthy parents into relatively healthy environments have an easier time than some kid born into a raging warzone, raped by all uncles and then sold into slavery; but generally most don't have a too horrible upbringing or too fucked genetics from parents who were related for generations to have the excuse that they can't change their personality.

Right, obviously you can do things to make yourself look better/worse or change your personality some but to think that these things are not MOSTY genetic is just wrong. It's the scientific consensus anyways.
This is no excuse for not working on your appearance or trying to change your personality though.

>It's the scientific consensus anyways.
The guy who mentioned the twin study even had in his quote that environment plays a huge part. And there are no studies to seriously test just how big the impact would be for each because that shit wouldn't be ethical.

Also keep in mind that the studies focus on the big picture and not the minutia talked about here.

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