How do you find nice women...

No they also work for facts. Now tell us more about how it's everyone else's fault but your own that you're single.

>No they also work for facts.
Wrong.
And the only ones who are at fault are the Jews.

Ok guys, guess we can't win, the widdle lady wants to be with, wet's wet her win!

Nobody is right except the one lady with the article so I guess this case is closed!
/s

>unironically hatefully calling people Chad and stacy

I am waiting to find a nice man, you aren't one of them.

Men AND women do the casual relationship thing because everyone is poor and busy, especially with school and subsequent debt/hustle.

You just sound like a mean person who sees a lot of bad in women, rather than good. That is why you can't find someone nice. Maybe you should work on yourself first.

>Wrong
Nice dude you did it again. Let me try it.

Wrong.

>Men AND women do the casual relationship thing because
Also because it's a natural thing and arranged marriages aren't a thing anymore in most cultures.

OP. Honestly go to church, find a virgin. or go MGTOW. Most women ride the cock carrosel as did the previous generations. But it is worse. Women used to fuck around with maybe 5-10 guys before settling down. Now it's in the 30-50 dude range. And Hippies are the cause. The destruction of the nuclear family and the idea that the nuclear family is good for every body is the cause of this modern trend of whores. As far as what you can do. Like I said, find a virgin or go MGTOW. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT date or hook up with women who have kids.

The only solution to the problem is, IMHO, a genocide.

>Wrong.
Okay then, prove how what I'm saying isn't fact? The answer is is that you can't. Now shut up and go back to masturbating to hentai, loser.

Ouch

You don't. They don't exist and long before you and I they were just as fantastic. Nothing has really changed since, we've only come to witness the truth now wide-spread with the internet.

Take the black pill.

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There is nothing natural about birth control and abortion clinics. Natural casual sex would be a life of continuous childbirth.

I don't say this with venom because I'm looking for advice, not a flame war but yes my youre right I do see the negatives in women because out of all of my female friends and romantic partners in the past, only 2 haven't been absolute cunts.

I don't get angry at rejection, I respect open honesty. What I do get angry and jaded at however is pieces of shit who use me for sex, or shitty "friends" who are only my friend for as long as I support them but as soon as I reach out for support, they can't take an hour out of their day just to listen to me. So yes my experiences with women have been extremely negative and I try to maintain control over my attitude because I don't want to become like those "bad bitch" roasties who hurt others to compensate for their own insecurities with men.

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>unironically hatefully calling women roasties and cunts
I had a LTR end because I wouldn't do anal, and he immediately starting dating exactly 9 tinder girls at once. Do you hear me or women calling men names like you are? I don't hate men because I know there are good ones out there, even if most of the ones I meet aren't good. I also know that if I hated men the good ones would avoid me at all costs.

There is no advice for me to give other than work on yourself and try to become a nicer person.

Most women are that way. It's in the female nature to use and abuse.

>Do you hear me or women calling men names like you are?

YES, YOU CUNT, ALL THE TIME

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Not to invalidate your experiences, and I take responsibility for how I have reacted to my experiences. But I don't feel like you can compare 1 (or more) bad experiences to someone who has had a lifetime of shitty experiences and say "it's the same get over it"

It'd be like me saying "my dad hit me once and I got over it, why can't you get over your dad beating you weekly"

P.S: why shouldn't I call someone who USED ME a roastie cunt?

What is this fucking casual relationship meme? I don't get it nowadays. I'm actually pretty young, I turn 20 in a couple months. But growing up I got the idea that if you're going to be an in an intimate relationship with someone that it's a partnership. It doesn't seem that way anymore. It seems everyone just wants to talk to as many potential partners as possible and fuck as many of them as possible and THEN not actual commit to a single one of them. It definitely feels like no one wants commitment but maybe it's just my age range. I mean when you're in college and there's dating apps that feed you 500 guys that want to be with you/fuck you a day I'm sure it's not easy to accept a monogamous lifestyle, is it?

Also it seems actual good women are extremely suspicious if you're just a dude who does his own thing and just wants to get to know someone/go on a normal date.

I have never actually had any good relationship. I have always been the one more in love and my last relationship ended with me leaving after physical abuse so no, I do understand. I also grew up with many abusive men in my family, some of who I still have to be in contact with to this day. I have had men try to take advantage of me, call me names, use for for sex and hurt me. So no, it is not like how you describe.

I never fully hated men, but after going to therapy I realized that the reason I continued to have bad men in my life was because that's what I was used to. So now I have many good people in my life and I am improving myself too. As I do so I am attracting better people.

I am not trying to make you feel bad. In the end I am trying to explain what has helped me and many others I know. And I am explaining that in experience, nice men do not speak in the way you are speaking.

You aren't stuck like that, you need to grow.

>I want to try out things in my youth
>she's only there because there is no chad
Interesting logic you have there.

you could literally stop this from happening by not hanging out with Anglos

then again, you probably are one yourself

where are you looking, dipshit?

Places that I met girls
-Internet (friends of friends, not dating apps)
-work
-internet (dating apps)
-larp battle (didnt plan to go, just happened at park)
-festivals
-school
-amusement parks
-other schools
-on vacation with family
-at friends' houses
-through platonic female friends/friend's gfs
-clubs
-bars
-parks
-grocery store
-liquor store (where i come from called a party store)
-through moms/dads who want me to meet their daughter
-restaurants
Try all these. When a girl gets a referral from another girl she is a lot more likely to give you a chance, because she already knows you must not be psycho.

Forgot to add mall, but people probably don't go there anymore unless they are some kind of ooga booga.

>you must not be psycho
Yeah, about that. OP speaks against it.

I kind of get it though. I am a dude with a pretty big body count, so if a girl is a whore I sort of just shrug it off. A virgin woman is always the ideal of course, but we are broken people, and we need to just accept it and move forward.
Maybe OP needs to spend a week in thailand/Tijuana with a few boxes of condoms and some drugs or something.
OP, I really wish that I could be your guide for a journey like that.

You cant go picking girls like fruit, expecting them to be caring, loving, and shit. You just have to put yourself out their and put put work into the relationship to make it happen. And you should just give up on the whole, "virgin" thing. You can't just expect to get it right on the first try, most people can't. Its trial and error and that is how we grow and mature as people.

Anal is the purest form of love. Where beginning meets end, life meets death, and love meets pain. Don't give me the "there is not enough room" bullshit. You push turd logs through there every week. A man offered to dick your pooper, but instead of being grateful you denied his love, brandishing his penis beneath your own shit. 9 whore butts equals one faithul one, remember that.

I think you're missing the point the number of thoe good men you talk of is rising and th number of good girls is falling dont pull the "men do it too" card 2 wrongs don't make a right, or in your case 20+ 8 inch wrongs

Anal is gross and guys who are into it are at least somewhat gay, I suspect.

Thankyou user

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So what do you do? What makes you desirable enough for these women you are seeking out?

Don't you see, women love abusive assholes and OP is trying to be one. The reason he can't get girls is that he's not angry and abusive enough.

umm find someone through common intrests.

Sorry mate, it's 2019 that isn't how things work anymore.

If you want a 'loving relationship' get a time machine and travel back to 1950.

In the meantime learn to enjoy being alone and smashing Tinderellas for leisure.

>Women and teen girls actually fuck less than previous generations

They have less sex but more partners.

How would you describe 'unnatural casual sex' then?
>Women
>Arguing

Stay away from the big cities. Search for women in the countryside, immigrate if you have to.

Wrong. Millennials have less sex partners than previous generations.

>everything I know about 1950s I learned from other basement-dwelling incels on Jow Forums
Oh you sweet summer child.

One of the entry requirements for joining the incel club is an IQ of maximum 80, didn't you know?

Doesn't make much of a difference anymore unless you can keep her completely off of social media. Men everywhere are fucked, even the high-status guys are disgusted with women.

lmao.
>Me, non slutting fem.
>Tries to settle down with my bf of 1.5 yrs
>found out he's been fucking chatting up online females and flirting with them.
FML /wrists

What's the question? And what's the issue?

All men think like me, a shut-in neckbeard virgin NEET: the post.

If they were in another country then I wouldn't worry about it. And besides your family members, was your bf the only male you were talking to?

You forgot to call him a balding incel with a small dick. That would show him!

If you are this judgemental you won't go too far. Good people are repulsed by such unreasonably strong negativity regarding other fellow human beings.

>I'm trying not to incel post

Oh...really now

Love is some disney-land bullshit, it's never existed and you've been sold a lie. Just give up or accept relationships are parasitic in nature.

They are symbiotic

Not fucking really, you don't gain nearly as much.
Drain a pint of blood for a teaspoon of love.

This is how sheep work. Herd animals!

>-Internet (friends of friends, not dating apps)
I don't want to spend time on social media.
>-work
I work at a university which means all girls are students and I don't want to get metooed because they think I am forcing them into something.
>-internet (dating apps)
Have tried that, but I never got any responses.
>-larp battle (didnt plan to go, just happened at park)
I am going to the park every day because I want to go for a walk, but girls at the park tend to sit with their friends and I don't want to break up their conversation just to get chased away.
>-festivals
Doesn't happen so often, but I will go next time there is one.
>-amusement parks
This is a weird one. When I go, I go with kids. I can't see how I can abandon the kids to chat up some single mom.
>-other schools
Like one you doesn't attend?
>-on vacation with family
Last time I was on a vacation alone, I actually had a really nice conversation with a beautiful girl. It is the closest thing to a relationship I have had this decade.
I am sure she was just being polite because we traveled in the same direction.
>-at friends' houses
I have a lot of friends and is often invited to their homes, but they are all men. The off chance there is a girl there, someone brought their girlfriend.
>-through platonic female friends/friend's gfs
I really want to know how to leverage this.
I have female friends. I don't bring up that I am single, but I assume they know. Should I just ask them to invite me to a party or something? I can't make them set me up with a friend of theirs, that screams desperate.
>-clubs
>-bars
I have tried for years to make that work, never managed.
>-parks
How? Get a bunch of friends and merge two groups? What is the strategy here?
>-grocery store
Aside from "excuse me" or "sorry", I don't hear people talk in a grocery store.
>-liquor store (where i come from called a party store)
Not a thing here.
>-through moms/dads who want me to meet their daughter
That doesn't happen here.

> Wrong. Millennials have less sex partners than previous generations.

Technically correct if you look at Millennials as a whole.

The average male millennial is having less sex, and less sex partners.

The average female millennial is having slightly less sex and more sex partners.

They project that the "average" millennial will have 8 sex partners in their lifetime.

But if I look at the guys I know in my life they're either full blown incel, near-incel who managed to bag a girlfriend, or they've fucked 200+ women.

>But if I look at the guys I know in my life they're either full blown incel, near-incel who managed to bag a girlfriend, or they've fucked 200+ women.
This.

All these statistics are quite useless when the individual differences are so huge. You can pick 2 guys where 1 of them has fucked 30 women and the other one is a 30 y/o kissless virgin incel and say that statistically speaking the both of them have, on average, slept with 15 women. Very funny.

I can't really give you specific advice, that's just a list of places that I have met girls at. Some of those girls I had sex with, some of them I only kissed or only hung out with alone once. Some of them laughed at me or cringed and tried to avoid the conversation altogether.
What I can tell you that might encourage you is that I have forgotten all but the most aggressive of rejections, and most people will be nice, because they feel bad saying no.
As for appearing desperate to female friends, don't worry about that. Girls love to play matchmaker. Just don't make it a big deal, pretend you are not there for anything. Try to imagine these women as your sister or cousin when you first meet them. You aren't trying to fuck them, nor do you have any expectations of them.
Talk to them about literally anything that you like and they will listen.

>user lists all the excuses he uses to avoid being put into awkward situations where he could meet women

All you have is anecdotes, not data. Like a typical incel, you only believe in pseudoscience and anecdotes and not actual facts.

Show me some data that shows the average top 10% number of sex partners split by gender.

I just want a girl who will commit to me, not just sleep with me. I know they aren`t bad people or anything, I just feel like shit as I fall in love with these girls who just want casual sex with me. I need to find one who actually loves me, not just say they do, then just leave.

You need to stop being so serious so fast. Women like a little enigma in their relationships. Every girl I ever wanted came difficult and every one that I didn't care about so much will still fuck me no problem.

Okay.
cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm
You were just proven wrong. Now what?

and is that bad?

Those statistics blew my mind. I can't believe that I'm in the top 20% of men.
The absolute state of playas omg.

incels forever btfod

Facts don't work on incels, they have retreated into their cultist shell too deep. They will find excuses why that data is wrong, yet insist a completely unsourced table of numbers on an incel blog is true.

How is this data supposed to btfo incels?

I graphed the data in Excel and it shows a decrease over time in the median number of sex partners for men, and conversely an increase for women. Furthermore, they state that only "sexually experienced" people were factored in to these results. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but it probably involves the exclusion of virgins at the very least. The advanced data from 2002 for ages 15-44 was available, so I looked at it and there actually more males with zero partners (9.7%) than females (8.6%) There are also more females than males with one partner (22.5 vs 12.8 %), more with two partners (10.8 vs 8.1 %), and more with 3-6 partners (32.6 vs 27.5 %). The only categories where men outperform women are the 7-14 and 15+ categories, which would seem to confirm the Chad theory (or that some men have availed themselves of a lot of prostitutes). And the most recent year represented is 2015. If we extrapolate the data forward linearly, it shows that by 2033, sexually experienced women are expected to have a higher median number of partners than men. Given the data from 2002, this line would be steeper if virgins were factored in. Plus, for the data in this chart, only ages 25-44 were sampled, notably excluding anyone under 25, who are an extremely important population, one that I expect would show more 'advanced' trends.

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"In the space of one hundred and seventy six years the Lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. That is an average of a trifle over a mile and a third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not blind or idiotic, can see that in the Old Oölitic Silurian Period, just a million years ago next November, the Lower Mississippi was upwards of one million three hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the Gulf of Mexico like a fishing-pole. And by the same token any person can see that seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Lower Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long, and Cairo [Illinois] and New Orleans will have joined their streets together and be plodding comfortably along under a single mayor and a mutual board of aldermen. There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact."

Already Mark Twain btfo incels like you. You have literally zero data to back up your incel cultist beliefs, all you have is anecdotes and wishful speculation. Yet more proof that all incels have an IQ of below 80.

Nice talkdown, blind retard. Blackpill theory is backed up by hundreds of verifiable statistics and real world experiments.

Yet nobody has ever been able to produce a single verifiable statistic or real world experiment that is relevant to the incel cause. But trying to talk logic and facts to an incel is like talking to a wall, you chose to retreat into your shell where nothing is your fault and everything is the fault of evil women and society.

Now be honest: how many girls have you asked out in your life? Do you have a job? Did you finish high school? When is the last time you left home?

Don't patronize me. I'm a professional geologist and understand how the Earth has changed over time better than you, Mark Twain, or anyone else in this thread. If you look at the first sentence of my post, it reads "how is this data supposed to btfo incels?", as you claimed in the post I replied to. I then proceeded to analyze the (limited) data and break down how, if anything, it provides a stronger argument for the incel case than against it. You then proceeded to tell me that "you have literally zero data to back up your incel cultist beliefs, all you have is anecdotes and wishful speculation" when all I did is interpret the same data that you quoted to support your case. You just argued that your own data is meaningless.

How about you show data that shows the incel cause to be correct. If you indeed are not a high school dropout you should understand the point of Mark Twain: that your linear extrapolation is completely meaningless and bullshit. So you are either a high school dropout NEET who is larping, or whatever trade school you got your degree from accepts morons. You just argued that you have no data and the only thing you have is making shit up.

I'm not here to argue for or against the incel cause. I just saw you making a bad argument against them and decided to break down the data. And I agree that a linear extrapolation isn't very reliable, especially with so few data points (although the points we do have for 2006-2010 and 2011-2015 are averages). This data was collected over the span of about 14 years, from 2002 to 2015. Extrapolating another 15 years into the future is nowhere near as excessive as extrapolating the migration of the Mississippi river by a million years based on 176 years of data. Basically, your data, at the very least, says absolutely nothing and at most is mildly supportive of the idea that the median number of sexual partners for women is increasing over time, the median number of partners for men is decreasing over time, and that the most promiscuous men are having more sex than the most promiscuous women will the least sexually active men are having less sex than the least sexually active women.

It's not my job to argue that the incels are right. Your attempts to refute them with hard data, however, are wrong.

>Complains about women
>Ugly ass incel looking fagget
>Wants the hot bimbos

You do realize that there's a ton of woman who complain about men being all shit because they don't want to commit and these girls are fugly as hell but want to date Chad maximus

Get your head out of your ass
Stop browsing this website or don't put the blame on someone else like everyone in this shit hole does

You have yet to provide a single shred of evidence except "I made a linear extrapolation of this graph". Stop lying. You're an incel trying to desperately trying to justify the incel mindset. How about you post an actual fact just this once?

Don't worry, guys are the same. It's a numbers game.
Always has been.

Quitcher bitchin

Be yourself, and when a girl approaches you, be 120% yourself.
That way you'll filter anyone who you'd not like.
For places, just go to a lot of them, doesn't matter where.

Juggernaut Law.

Here's a fact: you are trying very hard to fit me into a neat little box that you assume everyone who disagrees with you must belong in, because then you won't have to face the reality of being proven wrong so long as you can convince yourself that it was done by an 'undesirable'.

Here's another fact: there are intelligent, attractive, and successful people who disagree with you. I am one of them.

Here's some advice: Jow Forums is an anonymous imageboard and there is no prize for the game you're playing. There is no social status to be won by attacking those lower on the totem pole. You would be better served with a more open minded perspective when it comes to attempting to understand one of the most significant social issues of our time.

Still waiting for you to post a single fact that proves the incel mindset you so strongly are defending.

There is nothing to defend because I haven't put forward a single position. You have no idea what my opinions are and I'm not here to advocate for them. All that I've done is decisively prove that your epic btfoing of incels was completely invalid and I did that because I recognized it for what it was: a cheap, lazy attempt at bolstering your own status by differentiating yourself from an undesirable group that you would otherwise risk being associated with.

>previous post: shut up disgusting incel
>next post: kys incel

Women and Men are clearly different.

It's perfectly normal for girls to despise and shame male virgins but guys can't ridicule women for having more dicks inside her than a bus.

The fact that they didn't have Tinder makes it incredibly unlikely. The only generation I might believe had more sex than millennials is the hippie generation.

I go to a couple of malls within walking distance semi-regularly, just becuase I'm morbidly fascinated by the slow-motion trainwreck of decay, and I can actually watch the collapse happen in real-time. And until they get shuttered completely, they're decent enough places to get some mild exercise if you don't like gyms and the weather outside is unpleasant. I can't imagine how I could spin that into meeting someone, though.

Millennials didn't have Tinder either. Most of us were too old for that shit when it came out.

Wrong

finally a direct answer
most people just dodge my questions when I try to ask them directly

bold of you to assume I have friends

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