Why don't girls ever approach me? I'm fit (I work out nearly every day and I'm very disciplined when it comes to food)...

Consider that the "girl jumped on me" episode was when we were, say, 10 people drinking beer in a park, it probably would not have happened in a different setting.

I've got a friend who is quite round. Not really fat, but, you know, round. He has a "beer belly " (that's what we call it in here) and he likes to eat.
He had some very cute girlriends, trust me.
I have no way to know if you are "ugly" or not. I think of myself as "average, less that average", I never had much luck. I mentioned THAT ONE TIME I had luck. That does not make me a lucky person. You know what Hawking said ? "Women. They are a complete mystery". They have weird ways to evaluate guys. The friend I mentioned above, he is way more confident than me.

so then how do I come to terms with the fact that I'm just a reject? I've been on dozens of dates (girls from dating apps) and none of them have gotten past the first date. I can't find any reason why these girls wouldn't like me, other than height (or maybe my face is ugly?).

Be glad you can even get first dates user. I've never been on a date in my entire life...

Girls you meet on dating apps aren't a good benchmark to judge yourself.

They have literally hundreds of guys waiting in line to talk to them, so they only accept the top 1% of most men in most cases.

Anyway, it's rare for girls to approach guys. they generally expect you to approach them, just how it works. The only guy I know who gets girls persuing him constantly is a model so life's basically easy mode for him.

Didn't you say you are socially awkward? Dude, I never logged in in a dating site, I'm too shy for that. The girls I dated were all from real life (not because I approached them, but because we ended up in the same social circle)

>The girls I dated were all from real life (not because I approached them, but because we ended up in the same social circle)

If you're socially awkward then how did you date girls from your social circle? Did they ask you out first or something?

no i'm op. you're talking to two different anons

You might be an intimidating target. Consider this: would you be more confident to hit on a down-to-earth normal girl who's drinking beer in a local bar, or a 10/10 supermodel goddess who's considering some art piece in a gallery? Good looking women (and men) actually have this problem fairly often. Either take initiative or become more approachable. Some humanizing flaws go a long way.

>why don't girls ever approach me

Because they know you are a beta that is too afraid to approach them.

5'7 -5'8 tall. You have your answer user. I'm literally a lazy, fat, autistic, neckbeard but I'm 6'1 and girls approach me who I've never even seen in my life and ask me out.

Because you're Gendo Ikari and you're a faggot

Let me preface this by saying that the verb "dating" can be translated in two different ways in my language, so there's room for misunderstandings. 1) "We had a coffee, a walk in the park and a long talk about clouds. A very nice day." 2) "We kissed and did stuff"

So, these are my experiences of "dating"

In one case, she jumped on me.

In one case, I knew her because she was the best friend of "Jumping Girl" above ---> we had coffee, walked in the park... multiple times. Then this happened: Day before my bday. I go pick her up at her high school (I was just one year older than her). She said "See this tights? I put them on just for you, I dressed up in the teachers' bathroom". I thought "WOW, today I'll get my dick sucked! She literally said she dressed up like this to look sexy FOR ME!" ----> at the park, I tried to kiss her ---> "Oh, I'm sorry, maybe you misunderstood my feelings for you. I see you as a friend. ----WUT----

In one case, she was classmate with some good friends of mine. We had similar intellectuals interests, we went "to the park" multiple times. Complicated relationship, never really did anything completely sexual, but she definitely gave me hard ons, and she knew that. Once we were lying on the couch, her mom saw us and uttered "Oh, how cute couple you are!" and she put a blanket on us.

Once, she was dating another guy in our social circle (I didn't know, I swear). We talked a bit, she said she thought I hated her, I said she didn't really treat me well on some previous occasions, we talked about superstitious beliefs of african tribes and their scientifical explanations, we kissed, and at the end of the night ended up in bed. We did stuff, and dated for about a week. All in all, I realize she did that to provoke jealousy in the guy I mentioned before. So, she basically manipulated me as a tool to reach her own goals with the othey guy. This happened more than three years ago. As far as I know they're still together to this day

big oof

Urban dictionary tells me that "oof" means "when you don't really care but should say atleast something". eh, okay.

oof as in ow that hurt

OP here.

You're in a different circumstance though. I'm a loner in every sense of the word. I have absolutely 0 friends and my work is solitary. To make matters worse I live in a suburb near Toronto a.k.a the Screw-Face capital of north america, so people are especially stuck-up and spoiled and averse to social interaction - especially girls - which makes finding friends that much harder, let alone girlfriends. To make matters worse, everything is very far from everything (and everyone) else, as well as extremely expensive (including transportation), and the winters are ~7 or months long, and the other 2 are still chilly, making leaving the house painful ... what I'm saying is this - high school and college are relatively easy for a person to make friends. But what about a loner like me?

>evafag

that's why

do you even know where we are

Don't diss NGE you buttpussy

Act confident. Relax your shoulders, act like you don't really care, and shoot the shit.

Because you’re doing something wrong and you need to figure it out yourself.

no that comes off as aggressive
do NOT do that, relax but not too much

How the fuck does that come off as aggressive?

Could depend on a lot of things. Are your friends even hotter then you? Are they significantly taller then you? Maybe ethnicity? Like guys, girls have prefernces on who they like more(Asian/white/black etc) . Girls also don't approach guys that much. So maybe there is a few girls who like you but don't approach you.

i'm not a good actor, friend. so now I have to become a good actor to get a girlfriend? what a state of affairs. no wonder divorce rates are skyrocketing

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>5'7 or 5'8
It's probably not your height.

I'm your height and smash a new girl or two every week.

Maybe it's your face.

not op but the girl you smash are taller or shorter than you? i'm making a theory rn

very possible

Majority shorter or similar height, but a few are taller.

5'8+ is quite above average for a woman in the UK though.

Different 5'7" user here. I easily bang girls of all heights. Actually tall girls seem to be more attracted to me on the average because I have fucked more girls taller than me than exist statistically speaking.

Probably just exuding a lack of confidence. It happened to me recently, although I seem to have subsequently lost my chance with her as she got to know me. I was at a confidence peak that day, feeling great about the current trajectory of my life like everything was coming together.

Unfortunately it didn't last and she reminded me I'm still a lonely fucking mess with a very uncertain future. I'd take the 'Friendzone' at this point desu, just to have someone else to talk to occasionally.

hey user, 5'6 guy here.
Women don't approach you because you're both short and ugly
T. a short good looking manlet who gets approached alot

OP, let me explain something very simple to you.
You see, my mother isn't loose. My mother isn't a simple nympho. My mother was a full on fucking WHORE. 66+ kill count AND COUNTING. That woman was the finest ho this town has ever seen. Marilyn Monroe measurements and eager to show them to whatever guy she fancied. It was so fucking awkward growing up in a neighborhood full of men who may or may not have fucked my mother. They were all nice to me because they were all wondering in the back of their head if they were supposed to be paying child support at that moment.

SHE NEVER APPROACHED A MAN ONCE, NOT ONCE. IN HER ENTIRE 50 YEARS OF COCK WRANGLING EVERYONE WITH A FELONY CONVICTION, SHE NEVER ONCE MADE THE FIRST MOVE. I could not believe it when she told me. I believe her response to my question was incredulous too, like "what kind of slut do you think I am?!" It takes a special sort of bond with a girl for her to make the first move. She has to hang out with you for a while and take enough pleasure in your company to realize that she will kill any bitch that tries to make a move on you.

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I see. I always just assumed girls approach men all the time. I guess it's not so common. This puts me at ease a little. thanks user

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post face and I'll tell you if it's because of your face. It probably isn't, you'd know, but just in case.

I dont know what you are talking about. Where im from girls approach men all the time if they like them

where are you from? shit maybe I should go there

On a semi-related note, anyone tried bumble? Sounds like it might be even more skewed toward the minority of 'chads' but I can't be bothered with tinder.

Men approach women and if you're not among those who tried you can't count yourself among those who approached and failed.

>194cm
>employed M.Eng in electrical engineering
>24 yo, just under six figures
>confident, alpha in scenarios
>work out, muscles can be seen through long-sleve shirt
>above-average face
>dress nice
I have never had a girl approach me. Because women think that men should approach them. Even if your a 12/10 dude, women will not approach you.
>MEN ALWAYS APPROACH

In most cases a girl will never approach a guy, even if it's one they have a big secret crush on. You should never expect a girl to make the first move, since they have options and can just wait for another guy to make the moves that you arent

I never got how guys can get turned on by a woman bigger than them. I would want a woman to feel safe around me, which doesn't really work if they can fucking step on you. I remember going on a single date with a woman 2 inches shorter than me and I felt like shit and guilty the entire night for not being some 6'5 guy.

Conceptually better because it forces women to message first, but your success on bumble depends on where you live. In my city, bumble seems to be less active and full of less attractive girls than tinder. But I’ve heard that in other cities, bumble is the more popular one.

>I would want a woman to feel safe around me

I'm sure a guys height can help protect them from a muggers switch-blade.

I'm a manlet and I often had girls say how safe they felt with me, but I think that was more because of my stoic demeanor and ability to sort things out and avoid trouble.

I think geographic variance needs to be taken into consideration. It would not surprise me if, say, Valley girls from LA are much more brazen that normal middle class girls from southern England.

>normal middle class girls from southern England
They're pretty forward in my experience, just less "I want you to fuck me" and more "I want to get to know you and consider a relationship".

it's fairytale you have constructed in your head
you're actually a fat slob who dresses like a hobo, has a pizzaface and smells like a can of surströmming

If you have to be tall, than it's not true love.

feel the same so ive just givn up

>Is it because I'm not tall?

fellow 5'8" manlet here, yes

no it doesn't you retard

How do you know it's your height and not your face?

it's a mommy thing

I prefer bumble, the women are better looking and the fact they have to message first changes the dynamic a bit.

cause i literally look like drake bell, been told this dozens of times

face is an important factor but height goes a much longer way in pulling most types of girls

>cause i literally look like drake bell, been told this dozens of times

I googled him. It's not your height mate.

A test you can do is: don't list your height on Tinder and see how many matches you get.

you have to be retarded to believe this, especially if you don't know who he is

would be too hard to explain to my gf. there are many ways to make good pics for tinder anyway regardless of face or height anyway

>you have to be retarded to believe this, especially if you don't know who he is

This guy is near incel material.

Insanely steep gonial angle, super narrow jaw, negative canthal tilt, filtrum almost longer than his chin.

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Tall men get a pass from brainlets for most aspects in life just for being tall. Reminds people of their fathers. The same person under 6'0" gets half as much respect and fewer athletic opportunities.

Your days are numbered, Tall people. (((They))) will come after your privilege soon enough.

that incel could pull any underage pussy he wanted back in his prime around drake and josh

>Insanely steep gonial angle, super narrow jaw, negative canthal tilt, filtrum almost longer than his chin

this is spergy as fuck, dude

>your privilege
Sorry, my privilege is up here, not down on my ankles.

>that incel could pull any underage pussy he wanted back in his prime around drake and josh

Fame.

not really when you consider the context of the show, he was cast as the hot cool brother that skateboards and plays guitar. josh was the goofy comic relief counterpart. the opening to the show was literally drake singing some sappy buttrock song. you can personally think he's ugly (maybe he is now) but by consensus that's objectively not true

I'm 6'5" and girls still don't approach me. manlets need to realize that they could be any height they want and still be ugly.

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I think the even better part about this is that somebody spent the time to make it.

From a 9-10 woman here. Confidence, success, sense of humor and masculinity are the most important traits.
Masculine men (no matter what anyone tells you) are always more attractive than other men.
Work on these traits and you should be good.

"Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

>straight women are attracted to femininity

>From a 9-10 woman here.
In what field do you work?
>success, sense of humor
How the fuck would you know that when approaching a guy?
>masculinity
What does it even mean?

can you define confidence and success exactly?