Is it possible to get a gf after being a khv for 26 years? How would you go about it?

I think you need a woman who loves you for your soul. Then she will be very nurturing when it comes to physical affection.... she will teach you how to love by showing you the love you already have.
Unless you just wanna jump right into a whore and lose your virginity good luck trying to ever experience real, powerful, and not lustful sex.

>he actually accepts that it's his fault I ended up sleeping with someone else first.
That sounds incredibly beta, how is it his fault?

All men are whores thus they cannot experience love . They have pornified and sold their own mothers, sisters and daughters and now they look for true love . You whores are doomed to be dead and lonely

Because I asked him out years ago before I'd ever slept with anyone and he said no as he wasn't interested in a relationship at the time. I respected that and a year or so later I got into a relationship with someone else. So he accepts that he had the chance and missed it, basically.

well he's a bit of a cuck, but that's fair enough. Guess he'll have to live knowing you got fucked by another dude and he'll only have you.

Who hurt you user?

I think he also got fucked by other men so its equal now

You got a dick stuck on your butthole . Being jelous of a woman's active sex life means you have a vagina envy and you might become a tranny soon just like many stupid male bitches nowadays

Cuckoldry is where you willingly allow your girlfriend to sleep with other men, so I'm not sure how you think so. I suppose he shall, but he's an adult, and was at the time he made the decision, who is able to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Here's hoping. Sometimes, these things crop up unexpectedly.
Don't ever let it become an uncomfortable subject, my girlfriend and I have similar history (which we share). We keep open communication about it, which is important.

>Cuckoldry is where you willingly allow your girlfriend to sleep with other men
I was using it in the Jow Forums sense, but what you said is not correct either. He doesn't have to know or consent for it to be cuckoldry, although you would actually have to be in a relationship.
>who is able to deal with the consequences of his actions.
hopefully, who knows what he'll think after he spends a few more years getting older and thinking about it more and more.

Men cuckold their own asses they sniff each others butthole. They're all betas just fighting with each other to pretend they aren't beta whores. No man is fully straight they all eat each other's shit

Oh aye of course, but I'm not about to start stressing about it considering he's aware he can talk to me about it at any point. I've no real shame about my past, although that may be because it's him, so it won't ever become awkward for me at least.

>to know or consent
I wasn't aware of that, I thought that was just a cheating fetish but fair enough. Jow Forums also thinks women touching themselves during sex is cuckoldry so you'll have to forgive me if I'm dubious of their usage.
>thinking about it more and more
Read my above response to the other user.

There's plenty of blog sites to learn how to pickup girls. Choose one, there's all sorts.
Otherwise buy a hooker, make sure to tell her you are a virgin as she will take extracare of you.
You probably have a romantic streak that infects all your instincts, a prostitute will open up your eyes and redpill in an hour.

Knowing he can talk about it and actually being able to talk about it aren't the same thing unfortunately. Even if he manages to communicate the issues there's no guarantee it can be resolved.

>have a job where you meet people
>spot one of the former clients in a neutral place (ie an art gallery)
>say hello
>have a light chat about their life after you worked with them
>talk about stuff around you (ie art piecesl
>get invited to coffee
I made it bros.

>actually being able to talk about it
But we've already spoken about it, user. We've had a couple of discussions about it and no "issues" have come up. If he is unable to communicate with me whilst knowing that I'm happy to talk about it then unfortunately, as much as it would fucking suck, it would be a good signifier that the relationship wouldn't work long term.

This post perfectly illustrates why you are a khv. You've subscribed to inceldom and as a result as an angry obnoxious entitled manchild. No woman finds that attractive.

This. Every girl I've talked to just swerves on them because it's much easier that way.

All Jow Forums complains about is women being entitled and emotional and refusing to be in a relationship with them because of this, but they can't see that women will do the same thing to them for the same reasons.

I find it hard to believe this doesn't bother him but if he can make it work then good for him.

Entitled would suggest I think I deserve a woman, which I don't.
>No woman finds that attractive
Several women have liked me in the past so it can't be as bad you think

I'm not saying it doesn't bother him, more that he's capable of having something bother him and dealing with it in an appropriate way. I trust him to make sure that he's happy too, which is a big thing for attraction imho.

I sure hope so OP, i was a khv until i was 28 (still 28) but i got the realisation of "oh shit i actually have to fix myself first and not be a fat slob to have a gf i WANT". I noticed that i dont want anybody and want somebody i would be content with so,

>lost 20 kg (5 more to go)
>started talking to girls more
>dress and groom better
>actually finish uni to become a proper adult
>improving my character
>got a tattoo (this is irrelevant, i just like my tattoo:) )

These didnt get me a gf yet, but now everybody who i meet after a long time say i look better and healthier and shit. Which is nice.

I also noticed that my main gripe was "not being desirable " instead of "not having a gf". If i improve myself enough and live a fullfilling life i will be happy, regardless of gf. I hope..

So i guess if you have some issues first try to fix them for yourself.

Thanks for reading my blog have a good day

well it's a case of what is the appropriate way to deal with it? I can't see a guy getting over something like that, I mean I've read plenty of stories of guys sabotaging their first relationships due to this exact insecurity. I suppose there's others in the same situation who don't though.

The only appropriate way to deal with it is know that it doesn't matter. Ask questions if you have questions, but ultimately she chose to be with you and she is currently enjoying you, and focusing on anything else is just sabotage. I've known women to do the same, but I still think it's silly. If it really does matter that much to someone, then it's a deal-breaker, there's nothing anyone can do. I'm curious, do you think there is anything the woman could do to calm you? It seems to me this is more an internal issue.

>The only appropriate way to deal with it is know that it doesn't matter.
Unfortunately only he gets to decide whether it matters or not and that just comes down to the type of person he is. Some guys care, some guys don't.
>I'm curious, do you think there is anything the woman could do to calm you? It seems to me this is more an internal issue.
I have spent a lot of time thinking about this, and it's a major reason why I still haven't had a relationship. To know that the woman I spend the rest of my life with (I mean you have to go into a relationship expecting it to last, otherwise it may as well be a practice relationship which seems very dishonest) has slept with other men while I've only slept with her isn't something I could ever get over. Maybe it'd be fine once I moved on to another second relationship and have that prior experience, but if it was my first then no way. I am sure this varies a lot from guy to guy though. It's hard, I think it's something he has to overcome on his own to be honest, it's far too easy for you to say something that's well-meaning but actually fuels the insecurity.

>Lots of older virgins are clingy or codependent
I really want a gf like this.
a lot of times people will try to talk down wanting virgins by saying they are too clingy, but knowing that she is not specifically because she was to a different guy before makes me want to vomit

Aye aye, I guess my whole point is that I'm not gonna be beating myself up or stressing when he's shown no signs of distress and knows that I'm willing to communicate. That's fair, so you believe it to be a deal breaker for yourself? That's heavy but at least you recognise it so you're unlikely to force yourself into a relationship where you're unhappy. I'm not really interested in whispering easy words to him unprompted, honestly, but I appreciate the forewarning nonetheless. I was thinking more actions or behaviours, since it was a previous behaviour that has unnerved you.

Don't worry, there is no chance of you ever getting a girl, virgin or not, unless you ditch the incel mindset.

What's the point of having a gf/bf if he/she is not gonna be clingy?
It's like living with a random stranger from now on, except that you get to know him/her better and sometimes he/she will join you for certain activities.

Yeah I've accepted I'm unlikely to ever have a relationship because of it, but that's life.
>since it was a previous behaviour that has unnerved you.
What do you mean by that? I don't recall any particular behaviour that you mentioned that unnerved me, it was just your past history.

Only dateless, clueless virgins would want a clingy partner. You have absolutely no idea. Try dating one and then you will realize what a mistake that was.

There's a serious difference between clingy and affectionate. There's a difference between wanting to be with someone and needing to be with them. Clingy partners don't like you seeing friends by yourself (even when they're busy), are more likely to complain about very small issues as they expect everything to be perfect and are more likely to be irrationally jealous. 0/10, would not recommend.

That's grim man, I hope you manage to find someone who actually works for you. Previous behaviour being having slept with someone else in the past.

>incel mindset
it's not fucking worth it at all if her current personality is literally informed by having had sex with somebody before me.

so what I'm saying is that this would be a volcel mindset if anything

>her current personality is literally informed by having had sex
Please elaborate on this point. Do you think that sleeping with someone changes your personality?

>Previous behaviour being having slept with someone else in the past.
well my previous shitposting aside I really don't think sleeping with one other guy is unreasonable, it's the imbalance in experience that unnerves me. If he'd also slept with some other chick then I wouldn't have even looked at your post more than once because he'd no longer have any reason to be insecure.

This kind of insecurity is unhealthy. And try to think realistically for a moment, why would a girl have abstained from sex and relationships with a good quality man? Was she supposed to magically know you exist and that she must save herself for you?

not necessarily, I used to not care, and rolled my eyes at arguments made by virgins with rage.
But I consistently see replies suggesting it is actually a POSITIVE if she has had sex with other men before, most notably that they would be less clingy, and this is generally accepted by both sides of the argument(?) and this is what ruins it for me. How could anyone appreciate any trait (or lack of one) in a partner explicitly predicated on having had sex with somebody else? That sounds like an absolute nightmare.

Incel mental gymnastics. What people are saying that a girl being a virgin can carry negative traits. Remember that if you actually get a virgin gf, statistics say the likelihood is over 95% that you will break up at some point.

t.normie

>a girl being a virgin can carry negative traits
And by my personal definition of what a good trait is to me, having had sex with another man can never ADD positive traits, or remove bad ones, whatsoever. Even if the original trait she had as a virgin was bad by my own standards, having it removed by having had sex with another man is far more disgusting.
Also if what you are saying is true that most virgins would leave me because they have not had sex with another man, then only very few women are worth dating. Why would I ever want to marry a girl who is only going to not end the relationship BECAUSE she had sex with another man?

Because she would wait until an actual good quality man, meaning one she would marry?

She did meet a good quality man. Far better than you actually. Are you so delusional you think you are such a great man that girls would save their virginity for you?

Wow, you sound like prime quality dating material. I wonder why no girl has ever shown interest in such a raging butthurt manchild.

Yes. Use a dating website.

>partner
>im a woman
Nice try discord tranny

This post borders on gas lighting. It makes every possible assumption in pursuit of being maximally uncharitable to the single man.

Natural response to a post of "why can't girls save their virginity for me, why must the date those successful guys with jobs and not me, a basement-dwelling neet".

I did it after 23 years

Online dating, don't tell them you're a virgin until they already want you
When they want you they will rationalize it or make it their fetish

Nice job making more negative assumptions when called out on it. I am a successful guy with a Master's degree and a high paying job.

Then you're no incel.

Is online dating worth trying even if I'm below average looking?

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Mate he's twenty eight, boyfriend sounds ridiculous.

>She did meet a good quality man. Far better than you actually.
uh... are we talking about a person?
I thought it was a hypothetical girl who was going to date me
are you sure it can't be that she thought it would be fun to fuck a stranger?

what is your problem exactly? I'm just saying it is a huge negative for every personality trait a girl has based on her previous relationships. A good example of a particularly bad one is having been hurt in the past and being more closely guarding of your emotions.
if it really was "just sex" and hardly even phased her it shouldn't be a problem, other than what it says about somebody who wanted to do something like that, but that is correlation vs. causation.

Manlwt manwhores who think they're something because they have degrees . Stupid whores you still take dick deep into your anus while waiting for your virgin girl

It's been a good, long while since I've seen cope of this magnitude.

I just realised that I want a gf who will call me a dirty slutty manwhore while I fuck her. This is my new fetish.

You malewhores ain't worth shit though . You will get fucked in the ass while eating your own shit and then kill yourself by shooting in head to be a bigger victim then women . Crazy stupid whores who are too ugly to get laid by a woman so they eat each other's dick and pretend to be virgins . Your asshole must have been dragged to entire ugly male gay community because men have low standards and a fragile ego to make up for it

Please tell me about yourself. I sense great potential. Are you the fabled femcel, or just a tranny?

really, what are you talking about?

Fucking retards

Gf yes, wife nahh

Any tips on hiring a prostitute just for cuddling? Sex just seems so totally beyond me, as pathetic as it sounds

>that feel when 26 yo virgin
>actually okay looking
>focus on school and turn down almost any women that flirt with me
>I get too embarressed about never having a girlfriend and still a virgin
>only kissed a few times and never made out with a girl
>then one day I meet a 21 yo qt half russian half arab girl through school and she smiles at me and is very shy.
> I've been thinking about losing my v card for about 2 years to someone, but can't get over the fact that i'd be the inexperienced one.
>The qt russian-arab girl keeps at it and we have lunch together a couple times
>she likes that I play piano and am getting a phd in physics
>after one of these lunches I tell her I like her and she is cute. Almost have a heart attack I was so nervous.
>If i've being realistic, to other people she is about a 7 and i'm about a 8, but the fact that she was just as inexperienced as me made her an 11.
> The problem is i'm not muslim and she doesn't have a car and her dad tells her she can't have a boyfriend
> After I told her I liked her she rejected my advances at first and I felt teased and invalidated
> the next day I ask her why she smiles and flirts with me and shows me attention
> she says she has to write to me to think straight
> we start writing letters on pieces of paper to each other.
> she sprays her's with perfume and she tells me her situation
> we continue like this for a couple weeks
> we now started a secret relationship
> tfw we kiss for the first time.
> tfw so conflicted that she is at risk, but she wants this so bad and I want her.
> idk if I'll lose my virginity to her or she need me to convert to islam and marry her first. We haven't talked about it yet.
> I would never do something that stupid
> haven't lost it yet but it feel like it might happen soon.

if you have height and a good job, sure. Just don't expect any girl actually at your level.

More attractive men will tease the girls that are at your level and give these girls a false sense of equivalency. They'll think " oh wow these hot guys want me" when in reality these guys swipe right on every non-fatty they see.

OP it's easy. Just go on grindr and practice on trans "girls". Pretend they're women then you can use them to build confidence in attracting women. You can now get women easily, just don't tell them about these. Don't get attached to a trans "girl" either. They're crazy. You're lucky you can practice on them, I had to practice on men before men started growing boobs and shit. Feel like peter north, started at the bottom, after practicing on one guy I slept with over 30 women at 26, losing it at 21.

user thats a wholesome story, but you shouldnt have to convert to a new religion.

I am sorry but i suggest looking for other people

>dating mudslimes
Bail asap.
Believe me, you dont want to be personaly involved with that mental asylum of narcissists and zealots, especially as an outsider.
Not worth a fleeting romp with some repressed damsel in distress that seems all innocent and exotic. That is right now, until you realise you've got less in common than you think, which already shows, as you're already required to convert and dance to their tunes before you get to do anything, not unlike some sort of mafia would do.

What's with men on this site being obsessed over a girl having one partner before them? Why do you think such thoughts would plague every other man in existence?

Look up cuddle buddies

DON'T GIVE UP!

I was a kissless virgin until 25 years old.
I never really tried going for women before that.
Now I realize that I was really just scared, I was basically a toddler sexually, I was beta, unattractive, timid, badly adjusted.
Made a commitment to lose my virginity until the end of 2018.
In the summer that year, I had a drunk hook up.
Took me a few months of actually trying.
I started learning, improving, making out with girls in clubs, going on dates, learning to become attractive.
It was a bumpy ride, it still is, I am not delusional enough to think that I have caught up my neglected sexual development but it is going somewhere. Had some dry periods in between, thinking it was all for nothing, big desparation. Every time I crawled out of a low, I came out a little better, and a little better and so on.

Fast forward to now, I am finally starting to reap my rewards. I managed to sleep with 8 girls now, most of them in the past few months.

This weekend I went out, flirting with countless girls, touching their bodies, getting close and they ALL LOVED IT.
I fucked a beautiful girl on the same evening that I met her. She wanted me so fucking bad, she basically jumped me. Came hard as I pounded her pussy to orgasm. She gave amazing head too.
I also busted a fat nut inside my fuckbuddy last night, gonna do the same tonight.
Got dates with 2 other girls lined up for this week.

DON'T GIVE UP!
Had you looked at me 2 years ago, you would have thought I was a lost cause. Complete loser.
If you make a serious effort, you can do fucking ANYTHING.
I still have a LONG way to go, but I never would have DREAMED that I could ever even get as far as I have gotten.

Start with this:
>DECIDE TO MAKE A CHANGE
This is the most important step. Do something symbolic to tell yourself that you are serious.
What I did is make sure my apartment was always clean and I bought a box of condoms.
Sex was something I considered a real possibility from then on, for REAL.

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cont.

>LOOKSMAX
Yeah, seriously. This is FAR FAR FAR from everything, but appearance obviously play a part.
Start working out. Today.
Go running, lift if you want, do martial arts, whatever is the most fun to you.
Get fit. You will feel so fucking much better it doesn't even seem real.
If you are fat, lose weight. If you are skinny bulk up a little.
You don't have to be full on autistic Jow Forumsizen, just get to a point where you are okay looking and feeling good about yourself.
WOMEN DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU LOOKING PERFECT. In fact, most, if not all women prefer a little belly on a man, cause a perfect specimen makes them feel insecure.
However, being more attractive = being more attractive. Duh.

Get a nice haircut. Ask your barber what could look good on you.
Be clean, smell good. Try some colognes. No, that's not gay, women love a good smelling man. Look up popular fragrances, spend at least 50 bucks, don't spray yourself in Axe like a teenager.

Get clothes that fit well. Don't dress like a slob, in fact dress as well as you can. Look online for fashion advice or ask female friends or relatives.
(not /fa/).

>LEARN TO BE ATTRACTIVE
Yeah, you can learn it.
Women respond to certain types of behaviours.
This is more important than looks. Period. Incels saying otherwise are coping cowards.
Read these books:
>The Rational Male - Rollo Tomassi
Pic related. Just absorb it and keep it in the back of your mind. Yes, I know it sounds like bullshit, but simply internalize that shit. Trust me.

>Models - Mark Manson
Take this shit with a grain of salt. Being vulnerable is well and good, but be VERY careful to not misconstrue the advice given.

Both of these are not really what my personal philosophy is, but I believe most people would fall in between the two and the overlap is legit gold.

Take anything with a BIG grain of salt, but between all the creepy stuff and trying to sell you stuff, there is some legitimately good advice to be found. Even PUA shit on Youtube.

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All this preparatory stuff is fairly obvious. What are you actually supposed to DO? I never meet girls anywhere. I don't drink or go to clubs, do I have to start doing that?

Talk to girls.
If you don't meet any, go where they go. Make friends, go out, get social hobbies.
Simply live a life and be attractive while doing it.
Women will not knock on your door seeking you out.

>I never meet girls anywhere
Wow, I didn't know there are places where only men live, some sort of monastery?

I already have hobbies with more or less established casts, do I need to give them up? Does the average person just keep shuffling hobbies until they find enough people of the opposite gender?

I mean 'meet' as in 'get to know'. I didn't know there were places where you get to know everyone you see, where's that?

If you make alot of money, it's possible at around 28+.
But be prepared to be a beta provider for a single mom. And don't expect to have any sex beyond the first few times with her.
If you want a 'real' relationship, then no, it's not possible, since you never acquired the maturity needed in order to function in an adult relationship and no modern female is gonna tolerate you learning stuff you should have learned at 14, unless you have something to offer. Which brings us back to point 1, money, beta provider, etc.

t. teenager incel who has not left the basement after dropping out of high school

I would give everything to be a teenager again, but unfortunately I'm already 27 and my life's over.

Hey, I know you have no reason to believe me but I'm and what you're saying is a self fulfilling prophecy, not the absolute truth. If you believe every woman is just going to use you then you'll push away any woman who won't before they can even show you.

You sure have the mental level of a teenager.

I'm not good looking and I don't interact with females anyway and even if I did I got nothing interesting going for me, so I'm not in danger of that anyway.
I don't deny it. Stunted emotional development thanks to being a total shut-in for years.
There's no coming back.

It's always funny when I come here looking for ways to become less of a fuckup, but all I get is the stuff I've already admitted to thrown back at me in the form of an insult. What a helpful board.

It's not "preparatory", that stuff is what gets you going on the path of becoming a confident, attractive man.
Read the books, if you have any questions left, come back

Pretty sure there is a huge 2 post manifesto that details what steps you have to take in this thread.
There is no magic cure for your problem.
You have to put in some effort.
Stop complaining and get to it.

>All this preparatory stuff is fairly obvious
So have you done all that already?

is this possible without male friends? do you go out wih friends?

If you don't have friends, make friends.
>How do I make friends
Talk to people.
Keep talking to people that you like.