Jesus Christ

I don't see a problem with this at all. Let it die.
>Create standardized test issued across America
>Tailor common core curriculum to replace actual learning to instead teach how to complete said standardized test
>Let rich Liberals and Hollywood bypass the test anyway and manuipulate the scores of the privalleged and the "underclass"
>Test becomes a worthless endeavor
>Blame whitey

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Brainlet detected.

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No true. Some universities really do have better systems than others for teaching the undergrad classes.

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True, but as long as you do well enough you can get into any grad school from any undergrad university

You retard. The SAT is technically an IQ test. You are graded relative to everyone else who takes it that year. IQ is the best predictor of success. If you hired someone from Harvard and paid them good money you expect a higher level of competency.
In fact I would say that all you need is IQ. This extra curricular activity shit was created for incompetent minorities and dumbfuck rich whites to be able to get in.

pack it up and burn the SAT's
all niggers are now automatically accepted to college. whites btfo
also, whites must now use separate drinking fountains and toilets.

You missed his point, you fucking dumbass. It's pointless to have a standardized test for college admissions when college admissions are based on Jewish nepotism and affirmative action rather than the results of the test.

If he can actually get into a surgical fellowship they are going to eat him alive

No it’s not. It’s based more on knowledge than on intellectual ability

Have you paid attention to the scandal at all? The ACT and SAT, are compromised, how can it still be an effective IQ test when some Sheboon somewhere is paid to drop your son's score by 20 points to make some Celebrity's trophy kid seem more in line with the average scores? Maybe once it meant something, but not in a long time.

All in the name of abolishing merit to shovel low-IQ minorities into positions of power.

(((They))) will not stop until white people snap and begin the purge.

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The only correlation to SAT / ACT scores is income. Test is shit.
>inb4 hurr durr u is did bad
Got a 2250/34.

Yes.
Its a jew corp just like tax software

I went to a supposed (((top five))) school for chemical engineering and the instruction was abysmal start to finish. Autistic instructors with zero ability to teach. I literally would have learned 5x faster from a YouTube playlist. Schools coast by on good students in = good students out.

Damage control shills inbound.

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How is this not demographic engineering at a policy level? Western universities purposefully keep whites out so they no longer can achieve positions of power and wealth in their own fucking countries god I am so sick of this racist evil shit.

The SATs and ACTs weren’t even good to begin with.
With how long it is, with so little time you have, and how nothing on the test will be used for real life skills, everyone will either get a good enough score or just cheat.
In fact, the entire school system just encourages cheating since we learn so much useless shit that you must learn anyways to get a decent job.

Lower class Brits are retarded sub-humans to be fair, but this still shows bias because most niggers are even less intelligent.

What part are you too stupid to get? The scum of white population aren't becoming the next Einstein. They're white trash through and through. High achieving whites have no issues getting into schools.

It's almost as if the children of smart, well adjusted, wealthy parents are also likely to be smart and capable.

>also, whites must now use separate drinking fountains and toilets.
Fine with me. I don't want to touch anything after a nigger has used it.

More like "the wealthy can afford for their kid to be tutored by people like me while the poor kid needs to go get his part time dairy-queen job instead of studying."

The free points on the SAT for vocab aren't any indication of intelligence. Just flash carding the likely words.

I agree, tests are racist.

>College isn't for everyone
Wrong. Education must be accessible.

>SAT is an IQ test
Take the test right now and I can guarantee you won't remember most of the math shit, unless you're in a STEM job or something.
When you're in highschool bringing up the test results is as easy as buying a Barron's book on it and studying the test.

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Honestly we should kill 90% of Academia and go back to apprenticeship for modt jobs.

Why the fuck do you need to study years at Uni to learn to be a teacher? You just need to know the material and have good organizational and oratory skills. Even then lots of teachers lack 1, 2 and sometimes even 3 of those very simple criteria.

Uni should ONLY be for STEM and even then some parts of it can be learned other ways.

wrong, college is not education its liberal indoc 90% would be better in trades schools fuck off demonrat union kike fag bitch whore

We must demand equal representation for Jews in the country's top-tier universities, as they only make up 2% of the population and should be represented as such.

They have Jewish privilege, after all, which directly harms Blacks, Asians and Hispanics.

fpbp

>(((Strauss)))
>(((Pearlman)))

Every. Time.

Found the jew.

The SAT and ACT need to be replaced but not because of muh racism.
The SAT is owned by the college board, which is the biggest pile of shit in education. The ACT is also gay because it's the same fucking thing except you test on science and other shit like that. It's basically reading comprehension but with scientific words.

Guild system when?????

It's the case in almost all fields in Belgium and we rank way higher than the US in everything, education wise.

I think he figured it was obviously bad enough of a decision to not have to explain why, sort of like if you see a 15-car pileup on the highway you don't need someone to explain why that's a bad thing.
Is there even any argument in favor of eliminating standardized testing? Is the argument just that you don't want to make kids feel bad about scoring poorly or something?

college is dead anyway, this should have been evident to you at least a decade ago

We don't need to take tests like this in Canada to get into college or university

The Jew takeover is almost complete

Reminder that Brigham was a jewish shill that LARPed as a nord.

Education's "accessibility" has allowed it to become more expensive than mortgaging a home or financing two cars simultaneously. Not to mention devaluing degrees and entire industries. Education is not for everyone and the only way to fix it is by limiting its use.

Access has nothing to do with costs. Being able to borrow it to pay for it does.

true and redpilled

taking the SAT is a HATE CRIME

Have you taken the ASVAB?

Since the dawn of civilization, powerful individuals have controlled the stories people tell themselves about who they are, who’s in charge, how a good citizen behaves, what groups should be loved, what groups should be hated, and what’s really going on in the world. When you study what we call history, you’re mostly just reading the ancient proto-propaganda of whatever kingdom happened to win the last war during that period of time. When you study what we call religion, you’re mostly reading stories that were advanced by ancient governments explaining why the people should be meek, forgiving taxpayers instead of rising up and killing their wealthy exploiters.
This continues to this day. We fill our children’s heads with lies about how the world works, how the government works, how the media works, and, on a deeper level, how their own consciousness works, and the entire process is shaped to funnel power toward the people who control our stories. The modern schooling system was largely formed by John D Rockefeller, widely considered the wealthiest person in modern history, in order to create generations of docile gear-turners for the industrial plutocratic machine. Modern schooling is essentially mainstream media in a building; it promotes authorized narratives day in and day out to ensure that children will have a reaction of cognitive dissonance and rejection when confronted with information which contradicts those narratives.

This funnels the populace seamlessly into the narrative control matrix of adulthood, where childhood indoctrination into mainstream narratives lubricates the way for continual programming of credulous minds with mass media propaganda. All the print, TV and online media they are presented with supports the status quo-supporting agendas of the same plutocratic class that John D Rockefeller dominated all those years ago. This ensures that no matter how bad things get, no matter how severely our spirits are crushed by end-stage metastatic neoliberalism, no matter how many stupid, pointless wars we’re duped into, no matter how much further we are drawn along the path toward extinction via climate chaos or nuclear war, we will never revolt to overthrow our rulers.

>and now youre redpilled on why the education system is intentionally made to be broken by design

you can derive iq from the test but you definitely can score lower, not higher

I've learned more on Jow Forums for free than anywhere else.

lol
i never took either
ive never been asked if i have either

Wrong. The SAT has been studied extensively and is highly positively correlated with collegiate success.

The university bubble is only a few years away from collapse.

sfchronicle.com/education/article/SAT-and-ACT-take-hit-in-bribery-scandal-but-many-13694339.php

In a wiretapped phone call described in federal documents, he told a parent how his scam worked — that a bribed test proctor would fix the daughter’s answers on the ACT or SAT to get whatever score the family wanted.

The scheme required the students to get diagnosed with a bogus learning disorder or other disability to get extra time to take the exam, and the ability to take it in an isolated room, where the bribed proctor would oversee the exam.

Some parents and researchers have long complained that families can game the system with an ill-gotten diagnosis to get the extra time — in itself enough to help a student score better.

>trust us goy, we'll be fair when grading and administering this exam

Just get rid of everything... Humanity is fucking devolving.

Make sense to get rid of these tests. They are a hold over from the days when college was a meritocratic system and they only wanted intelligent people to be there. Now that they are indoctrination camps for adults they don't want to keep any morons out.

Last week, the College Board canceled the SAT exam that had been scheduled for Saturday in Saudi Arabia, Morocco and Egypt over a “test security matter.”

Similar cancellations have occurred in other countries, including China, Macao and Korea, where there were concerns about advance copies of the exam circulating among test takers.

>don't worry goy, these brown people are here because they did well on this fair exam!

Showed up to ACT hungover and having a mild anxiety attack.
Literally threw up in the parking lot in front of my waifu.
Spent most of my mental energy during the test struggling to hold a shit in rather than on the problems.
Still ended up making a 30.
It's a meme.

I was watching an old TV show, "Little House on the Prairie," the other day. The requirements for being a teacher in the 19th century were apparently passing an exam and being 16 years old. And people in the US were actually more literate then than they are now.

>Uni should ONLY be for STEM and even then some parts of it can be learned other ways.
90% of the engineers that worked at NASA during the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs were high school graduates. A high school diploma in the 60's is easily equal to a bachelor's degree now.

>Uni should ONLY be for STEM
STEMfags are so fucking embarrassing and I say this as someone with a B.S. in electrical engineering.

>have shit reading comprehension
>doesn't understand the difference between knowledge and intelligence
>call someone else retarded
top keks, faggot.

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Once standardized testing is eliminated, the state can have full power to choose who advances and who doesnt. Sounds great.

Just part of the plan to make college another extension of high school to keep the brainwashing going

I agree with this. Multiple guess tests are not a good judge of someone's intelligence. At best they prove that the test takers can repeat what they're told.

These tests should really be about problem solving, critical thinking, technical skills, and ability to adapt to new situations.

Pajeet medfag here, this is exactly why I fucking hate the system here. 90% of the students getting in don't know shit about the field nor do they have any form of a personality suited for medicine since they become literal robots made to regurgitate information since birth, so they're autistic by nature with zero social skills. Most people can't even speak conversational English for starts and medfags here are even worse most of the time, so they simply go through the same process of puking out answers even in med school since ALL the books are in English. And 10/10 times they will be backstabbing pieces of shit prepared to kill a classmate for an extra two marks on an inconsequential test. Those of us not a part of this scummy cycle of brain dead pajeets look to the Internet to broaden our horizons and learn about the medical field in other countries. And holy fuck is it a humbling experience. Definitely made me a better student all around. Any highly successful pajeet doc will always be among the latter group, that includes all non-resident Indian docs in the US or elsewhere. Scummy pajeet docs won't ever go past Indian borders, maybe not even their state borders. Those fuckers are proud as hell and entitled as fuck, they can go suck a cock and die in a septic tank

Hah, I feel you.
Had a turkroach in my meister / bachelor course
Lawyered his way in, went to court against his workplace (BMW factory)
Only showed up to class, like, half of the time tops
Had to be explained the pythagoras theorem in physics / chem class
Luckily, he didn't make it, and the school - not wanting to loose their reputation - said as much to his employer about him not coming in.
Didn't even show up for the final tests. Sweet in/justice, overall.

>Pretty sure he still hasn't comprehended the pythagoras theorem.

Teaching degrees are only for how to deal with niggers

More access = more demand = higher prices
Come on Austria bro...you should know this.

Well, no, we just need to give all black students an automatic 1600. They'd all obviously get it on their own anyway if the tests weren't so white.

We should reduce them to the seven liberal arts, teach and study real humanities not the meme fields they have now.
>rhetoric
>logic
>grammar
t. Classics major

>implying the majority of life isn't just an extension of highschool.
This shit has been going on so long that I'd be surprised if even 1/10 people notice it.
I'm pretty sure it began with highschool/college being memed as preparation for the real world.
Most people, not being able to cope with the real world, ended up reverting back into the highschool/college mentality.
Now the meme actually fits because the real world is made up of people who have a highschool/college mentality.

I love multiple choice.
You don't even have to know the right answer most of the time and use process of elimination to get the right answer.
Multiple choice is good for actual intelligent people who dont even know the answers but can figure them out anyways and it also works for monkeys who have to study and memorize everything in order to get the right answer.
The problem with the tests is the latter, obviously.
There really does need to be tests which you cannot study for and purely tests your ability to solve problems and think critically.
Technical skills are literally what you're going to college to learn so why test them?
Your ability to adapt falls under the first 2 which makes it redundant.

more demand =/ higher prices

THIS.
I smoked a joint in the parking lot of the test center right before taking the SAT. Went in high as fuck and reeking of skunk asshole. Didn't care about any of it, but still got a 1250. Not super impressive...this was back when 1600 was the highest. But my non-smoker non-drinker gf only got a 900.

This. I passed the ACT science section with flying colors, even though I’m not very good at science usually, because it’s just basic problem solving and data interpretation.

Sadly, this. Fucking clown world.

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>There really does need to be tests which you cannot study for and purely tests your ability to solve problems and think critically.
The only reason multiple choice even exists is to streamline the grading process.
Most of the issues with the education and testing systems are a result of the "industrialization" of the education process for lack of a better word.
We have lazy, inept educators and administrators with bad solutions.
In America it is preferable to have a fast and simple grading process than it is to foster the creativity and intelligence of exceptional children. This theme and its endless variations can be seen repeated throughout our entire culture.
This is a sick, sick country.

Honestly at this point Im surprised they dont just check your credit score.

When a shitskin thinks the SAT = an iq test. pro tip, you cant study for an iq test, SAT on the other hand

The ASVAB is good for picking potato peelers away from mortarmen, but its not really that at hard if you're educated or intelligent. Ive "qualified" for military intelligence with practice ASVAB test scores

It's not like the colleges are turning people away.
Too many kids that shouldn't be getting in are going for a year and dropping out.
It shouldn't be 100% accepted.
There's kids graduating high school that can't fucking read.

sorry whitey. we post merocratic now

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Big facts

Idiocracy was a documentary

>(((They))) will not stop until white people snap and begin the purge.
I think that's part of their master plan. They cant exactly begin the concentration camps for whites until the majority of us are on the level of Brenton Tarrant. That doesn't mean Brentont Tarrant was wrong but we've clearly reached the endgame where both sides are trying to come up with reasons to genocide the other side

Colleges really want nigger doctors

The SAT and ACT are 90% determined by the knowledge of the content. Yes, you can influence your scores by spending time to study the test itself before going in, but so the fuck what? That is also a measure of intelligence, initiative, and memory.