>"What's complicated is that you don't allow consumers to stop your tracking of them. You tell them that you do. You would anticipate that they do — that the consumer would have a reasonable expectation based on what you've told them, that they're not being tracked — but in fact, you're still tracking them. You're still gathering the information and you're still using it."
"By the way, this is just the phone. We're not even talking yet about [Google] Search or internet tracking," Hawley said.
I remember when there were only a few hundred websites on the internet and being anonymous was pretty rad. Now we have mass surveillance via corporate interests who are always caught lying to their customers BUT the government doesn’t do shit about it because the bulk data collection is so vast it makes Hitler look like a child in comparison and the corporations happily butt fucks the governments in exchange for a taste of that sweet sweet data.
Ethan Wood
I just hope people realize this and wake up.
One can dream.
Jacob Anderson
>well at least 23andMe doesn't hand over their database to Big Phar-
No he's right, the article is talking about privacy settings, not the GPS switch. Turn GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth off and only the 1337est glowniggers can do anything to your phone (remotely). I've seen indication that it's feasible to compromise a phone through GSM only, but you don't really have to worry about such things except if you're on some terror list or are a glownigger yourself. Oh yeah, and your location is given away over GSM anyway, almost any backwater police dep can track that.
Benjamin Diaz
Based NSA and Patriot Act. We all know its bacause of the those two that you will allways be tracked. 1984 is a reality and its great.
Gavin Morris
>Just accept all the violation of your privacy rights, goy! >Why do you need to know what we use your geolocation data, antisemite! >muh TOS agreement kys faggot
Lincoln Russell
>well, at thank God I used a competitor that won't-
Google doesn't need gps to find you. They can use ip addresses. Hell, they can even find you based on the ids of the wifi networks in your area.
Isaac Anderson
fuck off commie go eat, ohh my bad
Cameron Parker
>yes comrade, government and corporations have always spied on you Have they not? At least in modern times honestly it is just HARDER for them now. They have way more info to parse... and more tech to do it with.
Honestly I think most people do know this. It is just that the service is worth the cost (your privacy). If tech is free to you that means YOU are the product.
Blake Davis
No one can actually be this stupid, right?
Cameron Collins
dude just use incognito mode XD
Isaac Williams
>well, at least people aren't stupid enough to post their literal genetic analysis on Jow Forums of all places using the JS Google-developed reRECAPTCHA verification sys-
This is why my android devices are always on airplane mode until I decide I have to use them for something internet-related.
I still use candybar phones as actual phones.
Luis Green
Bro all we needed to see was Uber's app was still tracking after deletion and Apple/Google had no clue. That ends the debate on privacy across mobile forever.
Jonathan Williams
Only a mass uprising against the ZOG will set us free at this point.
I always suspected this, mainly from using google maps so much. Sometimes the app will show traffic in real time. You see the road ahead turning yellow or red the moment a car slows down to make a turn and holds back traffic for example. Sometimes there is just one car trying to make it through a give way junction and if they take longer than usual google maps immediately changes colour. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way of tracking iPhone users too because the accuracy is so incredible I assume it wouldn't even be possible with the Android share of the phone market alone.
Joseph Ramirez
Private or not, there's no GPS data if you turn it off. The article is about google accessing GPS data even if you don't allow it. Now, you have reason to doubt whether the GPS switch actually turns GPS off or not, however such things are easy to measure and really hard to hide. Think about it, you could even tell by the power consumption, without even intercepting the outgoing signals from your phone. Not to mention much of Android and the underlying kernel is open source. It's conceivable that a phone that's already compromised would make you think that GPS is off when in fact it isn't. I just refuse to believe that a first party (Google, Apple, or phone manufacturers) could slide such a thing under the noses of all those paranoid cunts out there. It's conceivable that gov agencies would seek to mass compromise phones through whatever avenues, I find it unlikely though. WHat you do see is such actors keeping backdoor vulnerabilities to themselves, like we saw with Snowden.
Jacob James
The most enraging part is how these corporate vermin just announce it in this think veiled malevolence because they know modern Amerigoys are too fucking stupid/selfish/brainwashed/decadent to do anything about it.
A people without hate, or the will to do violence are slaves by default. It's the laws of nature.
Gabriel Clark
>you could even tell by the power consumption
this. GPS eats up a FUCKTON of battery life. From personal experience of years of playing Pokemon Go.
Xavier Perry
100 Intelligence
Brandon Green
I am not saying stop caring but the choice is clear. Don't use their shit if you value even a shred of privacy. Also for those of us that don't give a flying fuck if goggle knows they are at their drug dealers house or the titty bar please do us a favor and QUIT ACTING SURPRISED BY THIS
>turn it off Your trust of the tech is bizarre. I imagine you watch pro wrestling and also use Windows to reformat drives. How naive.
Nolan Brown
>Spying on me? But I asked them not to do it! Fucking dumbass boomer
Jayden Hernandez
>Jew York education
Evan Bennett
ehehe
Lincoln Nelson
Question to the burgers: do you guys have anonymous prepaid SIM card options or do you all have to use a post-paid carrier line?
IMHO a lot of this can be circumvented or muddled by just using several prepaid SIM cards and partitioning what you use between the numbers themselves.
David Jones
I think they can buy burner phones. We can't do that in Ireland.
Chase Ortiz
Of course we have that shit. I can buy an iphone at walmart with prepaid sim with cash.
Benjamin Morris
>We can't do that in Ireland. WTF
Jonathan Martinez
People believe in all sorts of kooky shit when it comes to tracking. A lot of actors WANT to track you, and you can safely assume you ARE being tracked. You aren't tracked with magic though. You're tracked with shit that you could understand if you invested an hour of your time into it.
I like to believe I have some insight into the issue. People test and find all sorts of exotic ways of privacy-breaching. Factory- or provider-backdoored GPS is not one of them. Do you think no one ever thought of reading the signals their phone emits while GPS is off? You can build your own GPS spoofer within a couple of days with shipping included.
The public trust is being sapped every day, such big actors know to tread carefully and to only NSA your shit if it's more or less justified in the public eye.
Asher Perez
You're required to ID yourself when buying a number in Europe, to discourage The Wire type situations.
Nicholas Morales
No service is worth ones privacy.
>I'm gonna let Google know my life and location so i can play candy crush
I can't believe people in this world do this shit. This is the real problem to be solved.
Wyatt Lee
Yeah. I learned about the existence of burner phones from The Wire. Never heard of them previous to that. Although it does seem pretty funny to me buying disposable phones.
Noah Jenkins
>That's why you disable location settings yeah, right next to the 'disable jewish tricks' button
>Your trust of the tech is bizarre. I'd also like to add that I used even Google Maps without enabling access to location. None of the apps on my phone have it enabled. I wouldn't describe that as trust It turns out that was mostly pointless based on the article in the OP. I also don't have a data plan, so Google would have to wait until I got home to exfiltrate any location data they collected for the 5m that my GPS was on. Oh, and I also rarely turn on GPS, even when looking for directions on Maps, as most of the time I know where I am, and can read street signs. You can use Maps without internet and GPS no problem.
Ryan Hernandez
See:
Josiah Baker
the important thing is that i don't matter and i'll never do anything that matters. so maybe they're tracking me, maybe they have everything i do in a file, maybe someone laughs with his NSA/google buddies about how i search embarrassing stories of women's underwear showing to jack off. but i'll live and die without it ever mattering because nobody will need to leverage me for any reason. i'm a useful idiot. everyone just take the blue pill with me.
Jordan Peterson
See >Turn GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth off
Why would you ever turn on WiFi when not explicitly wanting to connect to the Internet? You know that if someone simply copied your unprotected home SSID (the name of the network), or any unprotected network you ever connected to (didn't click "forget" on) they could pwn you the instant your phone autoconnects to your network? I advise everyone to immediately "forget" all unprotected networks with common names (or any unprotected network in fact).
i meant just the SIM cards. So you can have a stockpile of them and just stick whichever one you want to use at a time.
It's kinda SOP for many people over here to use at least 2-4 SIM cards. But they're used for cheating on spouses/girlfriends/boyfriends.
Joseph Sanders
We can do that too. But that won’t defeat surveillance if your phone is hacked.
Angel Anderson
Yep. Also learned a bit about the consumer-level GPS chips/antennae/devices we have in our phones through PoGo shenanigans. Software/hardware spoofing, manipulating signals through bouncing off buildings/structures, etc. Once jury-rigged an external antennae so I could show myself as being across the street from where I actually was at one point.
Matthew Gonzalez
One of my issues with shit like Tinder. Requiring GPS/location. All for a potential fuck.
I use OSM alternatives, and pre-download both vector maps and tiled maps of places I'm interested in. It just feels safer that way in a world where the normies just use GMaps/Waze.
Elijah Harris
Airplane mode. Even kills the cell radio. Best option.
Caleb Garcia
If you niggers are this dumb, leave your phone at home. Go do life without a fucking tracking device. Plug it in and let it charge and fucking leave. Also welcome to clown world.
Colton Powell
yeah no shit and the US government knows everybody's location on planet earth
Luke Turner
i havent had a (((smart phone))) in over 5 years its not that scary to live life without one. yeah its kind of lame not being able to "google" shit on a whim anywhere. but ive managed
Tyler Murphy
>admits Do you even read the terms and conditions? Jokes aside, (though I unironically read T&C's) Apple, Google, and Microsoft make literal spyware disguised as adware. One could argue they are necessary evils, I won't debate, but you as an user should have no illusions about how insanely difficult it is to actually keep corporate big brother away.
Aiden Hughes
Duh
Lucas Williams
The ultimate answer. The nature of cell service requires that your location be broadcast in one way or another. It could be anonymized, but that would cost a lot and nobody really wants it enough to switch protocols.
Joshua Gomez
how to sue google tfw already knew this but to lazy to prove it using android
James Fisher
>Implying I think it's safe to say unless you physically remove anything that can be used to track it's saving the data. 10 years ago they saved the data in text format if you turned airplane mode on and sent it once reconnected. Most modern phones don't have battery access if I'm not mistaken.
Gotta catch those perverts and right-wing extremists somehow. That's probably their reason.
Oliver Sanders
I don't think there's any anons left who are not cynic enough to get it. Without even reading T&C. Why wouldn't they do everything under the sun that they can profit and gain power from? It'd be stupid for them not to.
I think the traffic colors thing comes from people who allowed access to GPS data for Google Maps. Which is 99.99% procent anyway, only troglodytes like me use Maps as if it was a printed map. The revelation here is that data was being collected regardless of you allowing access or not. It's probably justifiable by some sort of ToS pilpul, so in the end it's just "Google being a bit cheeky" in the eyes of the law.
Lucas Edwards
it's a shame that most freetards are latent commies, I think most of the ideology is great (freetardism that is)
