>khv and 34
>no friends
>thought I might have had a chance with qt coworker
>she doesn't give a shit about me
>just like everyone else
What do? Where do I make friends and get a gf?
>Read how to win friends and influence people
>Joined some hobbies
And nothing has changed. ;_;
take action
talk to females
fuck it dood
cx
Problem is I don't know what action to take
I don't even know any females to talk to tbqh
where do u live? find good places to go out on fri and sat. go to the mall. theres females everywhere
>how to win friends and influence people
Dumbest meme on this board.
You are not a old timey business man, so the book is more or less useless except for a few passages that you could really deduce with common sense.
Better books:
>Models by Mark Manson
>The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi (careful not to go full MGTOW incel rage)
Books wont solve your problem though.
Only action will.
Hygiene, grooming and good clothes are a base line you should have covered.
If you are fat, lose weight.
If you are scared of women, talk to as many as you can manage.
Don't expect shit to just magically change around you, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Read those books I listed and take action.
Not after you finished them, as soon as you learned something new, you don't read more until you tried it at least once irl.
>Read how to win friends and influence people
lol what did you expect this to do? Suddenly give you the confidence to approach people? The book is about having a decent conversation with someone to develop rapport (crucial to sales jobs), assuming you are already in the position to approach new people and meet others. It gives you nothing at all in terms of the guts to initiate a conversation. It's about establishing a friendly surface level relationship. For its purpose it's a great book but you aren't even at the level where its content applies to you. Furthermore, it offers nothing at all in terms of deepening relationships or flirting or getting a gf.
It seems like there is so much good information out there that is misused, and its misuse begins to lower its credibility as you can see here . Stoicism is another great example of that.
But does have some sound advice. You need to be taking more initiative. I think "hobbies" to meet people are the biggest meme on this board. You don't meet people at BJJ class or an art workshop, you go there to roll or draw. Normal people will sometimes "click" with each other there and become friends, but only sometimes. You need to be going places where people commonly go to socialize. A bar, a concert, a convention, a fair, something along those lines. And you need to take the initiative with engaging people. If you become a regular at a bar, and get to know the other regulars, that's actually a situation where Dale Carnegie could be helpful, initially.
Dancing lessons. Apply what that book told you there.
I dont mean to shit on you or anything user but what have you been doing all this time? Did you not get concerned over a decade ago when you were still KHV with no friends?
be yourself
He was probably just being himself.
>I don't know what action to take
You need to try whatever and keep trying and failing until you figure it out. You need to leave your comfort zone and expose yourself to embarrasment, you need to invest some effort. If you don't do that, you'll die a virgin.
That's how pretty much everyone else learned it, they attempted cringy and stupid shit during teen year until they figured out what works. It's a skill that needs to be practiced.
As you can see, OP, you don't make friends or get a gf. You're done. Why do you think suicide is so popular in your age group?
i'm 34, you want me to go to the mall and talk to females?
i've been to the mall, this is what i've seen
>girls in groups (with another girl, with a guy, with multiple people)
>girls with earbuds in
>girls staring at their phone
>girls avoiding eye contact with me
what exactly am i supposed to do at the mall if i see a girl?
i'm from Toronto
>A bar, a concert, a convention, a fair, something along those lines. And you need to take the initiative with engaging people.
thanks for the advice
just talk dont be outcome dependant.
ik this guy 33 years old he gets lots of women
Already taking dancing lessons (one of the hobbies I do)
But find it hard to talk to people in class tbqh
Seek a GOOD therapist if you’re broken inside about it
gotta practice
Stop being a loser and get off Jow Forums
should i talk to people on the street?
or should i be going to classes/bars as much as i can?
ok so you have to understand some women trained themselves to seem nice and interested in you, it's simply them being who they are and how they are raised.
2nd Patients, be a nuetral person, not looking for a relationship and never be picky who is going to be your friend.
It's all about you. It's not about your approach.
If you are a valuable male, you will attract females, and as you feel 'worthy' or 'deserving' of their attention, you will more naturally say and do the right things without really thinking about it. You will subconsciously see yourself as the prize that the girl has to work for.
If you are a low-value male, no pick up tricks or different approaches will help the fact that you're not attractive. You will always be reaching for that female attention, which will inevitably come off as desperate, or at least needy, which is offputting to girls. Just being on tinder is a symptom of this 'reaching'.
Figure out how to become high-value, and they will come to you.
Male value = looks/10 + wealth/10 + kindness/10 + intelligence (including humour)/10 for a total value out of 40.
Looks; improve by lifting and getting a good style.
Wealth: start by reading Rich dad poor dad. Learn to manage your finances upwards.
Kindness: Learn to enjoy life and be in reality, you will find joy and love in your heart.
Intelligence: Think about things carefully and try to be self aware.
What a punchable face.
Really good post user
Big enclosed highly social environments like malls can be horrid for approaches unless you get the +courage modifier and go for broke trying to roll a 6. I've always got to know women through shit like work, education, group activities, shit where you do something else together. Takes the edge off the interaction. Relax and things will start click. Sadly that's like telling a drowning man to just swim bro - I know from bitter experience how hard it is to unlearn your anxiety. It takes time. All I'm saying is it's possible, it's doable.
Read what this guy said
Please let me have sex with you OP.