Taxing the rich bad. Oh how do I know? Propaganda funded by billionaires told me so

no, because they aren't giving everyone $1000 per month

OP logic
Steal from people that work hard and are smarter than you because you're mad that no one will hire you because of your gender studies degree.

Why arent the rich taxed at 65% and the poor taxed at 5% ?

Not to mention the hidden taxes of poverty or the stressors, or the fact that its like literally losing 10 Iq points.

Face it bootlicker. Our system makes no sense unless its from the point of veiw of an exploiter.

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If you killed the top 10 richest Americans and redistributed their wealth, everyone gets a check for about $1,900. The wealth of the 1% drops off quickly after the top 10-20, so if you killed the entire 1%, that check would still probably be less than $3,000. Most poorfags would immediately spend this $3k on designer clothes, gaming rigs, weed, and other trivialities. Their net financial situation would stay the same, or get worse. Prices everywhere would rise, and the economy would be severely damaged.
You would also lose ALL of your innovators and business leaders, irreparably damaging the nation's productivity.
Obviously, this is the most extreme option, but any less drastic solution would redistribute proportionally less wealth. Taxing the rich is nothing more than a fantasy, most poorfags stay poor their whole lives because of their own choices.

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>You would also lose ALL of your innovators and business leaders

Pretty sure the professors and doctorate students arent rich bro.

Also 99% of innovation comes from government funding

I agree, we need to do something about these Jews.

You know what happened when New York tried to increase the taxes for the rich? The rich all moved out of New York. New York was left with a big gaping hole in their 2019 budget.

The rich aren't stupid. They gotta move the fuck out of the US because they want to keep their money.

Poor people get more back than they put in, dumbass.

Professors and doctorate students are not innovators or business leaders. Those who can't do, teach. Also, you're missing the entire point.

maybe the poor should leave New York and lets see how the rich will keep the train going

And where will they go? To higher tax societies?

Good fucking riddance. Someone else can fill their spot. Someone a little less greedy.

The US had far more innovation when there was far less inequality?
Was that your point?

Because huge wealth disparities stifle innovation and are bad for economies. As is massive debt service and over taxation as well as exploitation capitalism

You're pulling all of that directly out of your ass. Take all of the wealth of the rich, distribute it among the dumb masses, and watch as it causes infinitely more problems than it solves.

>Taxing the rich bad. Oh how do I know? Propaganda funded by billionaires told me so.

Never wondered where the money that the billionaires got originally came from?

>wise use of taxes
military spending is good, to an extent.
however, as a navyfag, it's rarded what they're spending it on.
>f35 that is opertionally worse than the f14
>new ships based on shit-tier ship classes like the relatively new LDPDs, old DDGs, Frigates, and subs
>rarded rifle changes every six years
>even more rarded uniform changes every six months (for the Navy, at least) that we have to pay for, anyways
>taxing the military and paying dumbass fuckin contractors who shoot up forts twice the amount they pay enlisted, all to do a shitty job that the enlisted could have done perfectly because MuH sUbJeCt MaTtEr ExPeRtS
>paying for literally everything, including MAC flights which give no good use to the military other than giving us free flights to cali when we go on vacation
>shitty healthcare
>shitty VA for after we even get out
>retarded retirement system (both of the new systems)
and last but not least
>recruitment methods that don't work and cost millions of dollars
AMA

why did u wanna spend 3+ years on a ship with lots of men navy fag?

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>implying the rich wouldn't just move all their money into offshore tax havens anyway

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1. Tax the shit out of the rich
2. Multi-nationals and their executives operating in the US no longer allowed foreign tax havens, extremely severe sentences for breaking this
3. Strict control over borders
4. Severe penalties for use of illegal labor
5. Companies operating in US can not outsource labor for less than US minimum wage.
6. Nationalize energy industry
7. Make Medicare available to anyone and let private options exist alongside
8. Do not give private patents to research using government dollars- this is a legitimately insane practice that creates much of the absurd price gouging

Communists are dipshits focused on completely unattainable equality instead of more practical things like the attainable goals of providing housing and basic medical treatment for the very poor. Fascists are vengeful little faggots mad about not getting pussy. Mixed economies have BTFO every nation that has gone to these extremes because some industries work better in free markets and some work better nationalized and ANY system that is either free market or planned economy fundamentalist is going to treat completely different scenarios with the same prescriptions, leading to absolute dogshit results.

>f35 that is opertionally worse than the f14
First off, I’d hate to see your ASVAB score with grammar like that. Second, yes, maybe in a dogfight. The f35 is not intended for dogfights. That’s still the f22’s job. I’m curious, in what scenario would an f14 get within range to take out an f35 without getting blown out of the sky before engagement?

or if he pays his fair share, you can start your own damn business. #yanggang2020 bitch.

it's a dope job, i'm an electronics tech.
i fix radars and comms and shit, easy workdays, good pay, and a year and a half of school that put me up to 40 some college credit hours.
when i'm done with this first term, i'm gonna try and get forward deployed and do my job but in buttfuckistan or some desert hellhole and be an infidel

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Always easy to point out how others should suffer for the good of the group while youre nice and comfy.

Americans are Grotesque

If I accept your premise that wealthy people don't deserve the money they ostensibly earn, why would the government possibly have a better claim to it?

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GEORGE PAPADOUPOLOUS HAS TIES WITH ISRAEL NOT RUSSIA

>le government is evil meme

Honestly, when companies like Facebook, Google and Amazon are the leaders you can't really trust that the "free market" will make things better.

How do you think giving everyone a one-time payment of $3,000 would solve anything, you dumb fuck?

Taxing the rich a great. But prohibiting the import of cheap, nigh slave labor is greater. Wage go up and everyone pays more taxes. Corporate welfare is the pits.

Have a (you)

Because the system is debt-based you retard

oh look, some nerd who studies airplanes n shet
the f35 is shit, it takes nearly 55hrs of maintenance per mission to execute what it needs to do. the f14 was built in 69 and took 5 hours more, on average, as per that.
the f35's vtol is shit compared to the harrier, and is still developing as it's already been put on the production line.
it's stupid to purchase more aircraft that we don't need. the f16, f15 and f18 are more than capable to carry out whatever missions we may need to execute.
oh, also, why make an f22 pt2 when we can just make the f22 better?

what if we declared war on tax haven nations and blew up all their infrastructure?

Basically all the replies in this thread prove that the propaganda the OP mentioned has worked

Very low energy

(also 85 ASVAB so btfo roastie)

Is that so OP

>1 post by this id

>provide no evidence
>declare victory

Kys, commie.

That’s a secondary and irrelevant question to whether taxing the rich is a good thing or not.

Why are the left so shit at memes

Strawman argument, as usual. Kys

>starving communist shithole good

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They even admit it because it creates a catch 22.

The population becomes so brainwashed they are worthelssly retarded but if you dont brainwash you cant exploit.

Podesta talked about it in his emails and said “we need to find a solution”

Its a big problem. All these econ 101 tards swolloed the kool aid whole

>It's a other "l*ftoid doesn't pay taxes" thread

I never made that strawman argument you did retard. Fuck

Taxing the rich more =\= killing all the rich people and distributing all their wealth to everyone with a one time payment.
Fucking idiot

The system is broken by design.
Thats why the talking heads never discuss real problems or real solutions and just use emotionally loaded goads to gaslight everyone

Its literally “working as intended” for the elite.

>what is a flat percentage
Stop trying to use our memes against us, its mega cringe.

>Never wondered where the money that the billionaires got originally came from?
Hard and honest work didn't you know

...I never said that hard and honest work came from them however.

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>Why arent the rich taxed at 65% and the poor taxed at 5% ?
Why should they?

Why shouldn’t they?

I agree that the f35 is unnecessary and the f22 is more than competent as a multi-role fighter. My argument is that you’re on crack if you think an f14 is operationally superior to the f35. Nothing is operationally superior to the f35. I didn’t say that justifies the cost or other resources it drains.

It's leading to runaway wealth inequality that we are currently witnessing and living in numbnuts

But I guess for sadomasochist right-wing bootlicking assholes, this was their sick deprived fantasy all along that they're forcing down the rest of our collective throats

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In america the poor are taxed at 45% but there are lots of hidden taxes and fees sales tax and oblique taxation so that number is actually probably closer to 65-70%

(And thats just money. The stress lowers their IQ by ten points. They are constanly imposed on for time. They have to pay late fees. They never are allowed to aqcuire assets. Etc.)

Whereas the rich are taxed at 15% (capital gains) but have various mechanism including incorperation to reduce that tax to around 5%.

For example a poor person buys a car and pays 11% sales tax.

A rich person buys a jet pays 11% sales tax, but they get to depreciate the asset and write off the gas and other incidentals as business expenses and they also get a huge tax break for jet ownership that Trump gave them.

So you have the poor person paying heavily while the rich person is heavily incentivised.

It was a joke about inverting the paradigm.

The top 20 percent of income earners in the USA are responsible for 87 percent of all income tax revenue.
This is an indisputable fact that is instantly verifiable

The next person who makes the claim "the rich just need to pay their fair share", just fucking full on slap them across the head. Right from the waist.

They deserve nothing less for being blisteringly stupid

You're the one putting forth a proposition, the burden to prove its worth is on you.

>It's leading to runaway wealth inequality that we are currently witnessing and living in numbnuts
That's not because of the rich "being taxed less", it's because there are so many regulations that opening a business is fucking impossible unless you have a shitload of money.
Also, precisely BECAUSE of your convoluted schemes that add sixmillion% taxes and then add a shitload of loopholes, the middle class (and not "the rich") ends up paying a fuckton of taxes because they have enough to end up in the higher tax brackets, but not enough to hire a jew lawyer to help them evade them.

If we just implemented a flat 15% tax, no loopholes, no rebates, no bullshit, the system would be a lot fairer and the REAL rich would end up paying a lot more than they currently do.
But no, you want your token gesture that accomplishes nothing because you want to FEEL like you're sticking it to The Man, even though you're actually playing his game like a good pawn.

oh shillcuck, sometimes i really wish you had a brain…..

if you actually believed the retarded shit you whine about then why don't you monolithic retards promote protectionism?
it will end large-scale international trade and lobbyism, it is cancer for the ultra-rich.

no, I don't care about the f14 lmao. in terms of air superiority, sure, the f35 is superior; my point is that you have to remember that not everything is about superiority in the sky, it's about maintenance costs, flight deck/hangar bay reliability, accessibility, technician expertise needed, and weapon capacity, let alone reconnaisance system availability.
as someone who spectates and works on stuff like this daily, it's hard for me to agree with the decision to put a brand new fighter jet in the danger zone without having enough tests done.

Show your flag kike
8 years of Obama
Small business Pay 50% of profit on tax
Amazon pay 0%
So fuck off cuck and kys
Remember with High tax only multinational can survive

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>No you!

But what exactly makes the left unable to meme?

It's discrimination. You tax money, you don't tax people.

Just "taxing the rich more" would also discourage innovation and redistribute less wealth, as I originally said. It's useless. The rich already account for around 80% of net tax revenue. Poor people receive more in tax benefits than they put in.
It's not a strawman either, because 90% of you retarded commies actively advocate for killing the rich and taking their money.
Given that white men are the only demographic group that are net payers of taxes in America, and every other group are net recipients of tax benefits, maybe you shouldn't try to tell me how my money gets taken and spent.

bbc.com/news/business-42921615
edition.cnn.com/2018/10/16/economy/q3-weekly-earnings/index.html
wages are literally rising and you're to fucking retarded to read a single article
even your fucking retarded lefty outlets say it is

nice cartoon drawing though

Before we even get into who should pay more taxes, please explain why the government deserves more money.

Netflix paid no income tax in 2018 you babbling buffoon
>it's because there are so many regulations that opening a business is fucking impossible unless you have a shitload of money.
I'm sure if we removed regulations you'd be able to open up a plane manufacturing company and start competing with Boeing or Airbus lmao

Rightist sounds good in theory, but falls apart in practice

>would also discourage innovation
Most innovation happens in the public sector anyway. R&D isn't profitable and is risky when you can just keep pumping out your products in a monopolized free market.
>wages are literally rising and you're to fucking retarded to read a single article
Corporate wages maybe LOL

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>In america the poor are taxed at 45%
No they're not, the "poor" hardly pay any taxes and that holds true for every single developed country in the world.
The vast majority of taxes are paid by the middle class.

I'm in that 19% who makes between 35 and 55K in this chart and my income tax is around 35% of my salary. Those making 19.9K pay about 8%.

>b-b-but free markets are good when they make my worthless electronic trinkets cheaper

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>hehe NETFLIX didn't pay any taxes so that some how changes the fact that the rich already pay almost 90% of all taxes!!! I win ;)
>A market free of over-reaching government regulations means that everyone is going to try to open a fucking plane company

Kill yourself. You are more retarded than I thought.

Netflix paid no income tax?
I bet they were taxed on their employee salaries,
property taxes of the data centers,
taxes on the rights to movies,
taxes ETC.
You do realize there is more to "tax" that the one sheet you fill out at the end of the year right?

>I'm sure if we removed regulations you'd be able to open up a plane manufacturing company and start competing with Boeing or Airbus lmao
>you need to compete with Boeing to make a business

A small food store doesn't need to compete with Boeing, they just need to compete with supermarket chains. And they'd be able to, if the government didn't absolutely destroy them with taxes and regulations.

no, i'm all in for protectionism

>this boomer muh regulations meme

>it’s ok Netflix paid no tax cuz its employees did
Absolute state

lol yes, hedge fund managers work harder than bricklayers
inheriting enough money for 100 lifetimes - it's your fault you didn't hit the life lotto

taxing the super rich (50% of that being jews) isn't a bad thing and you are a grug brain if you actually think that way

Go try and compete with walmart then big boy.

LMAO.

Socialized losses, privatized profits.

You guys know "Netflix" isn't a single person, right?

>they just need to compete with supermarket chains. And they'd be able to, if the government didn't absolutely destroy them with taxes and regulations.

No they wouldn't.
You can't 'compete' with a store that gets cheap as fuck goods as well as all the slave labor prices because of the Far East.

'MUH COMPETITION' is a capitalist psyop along with other drivel like 'bootstraps'.
Big supermarket chains routinely put small stores out of business because they can afford to be cheaper. No amount of 'muh deregulation' memeing is going to change that.

>Socialized losses, privatized profits.
This.
It's socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else.

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The rich are helping society and invented ipod, facebook and big mac. Sage, commie.

according to US campaign finance law, a corporation is a person
they made it that way so that donations would be protected under "free speech"
jewish as fuck, no?
we need to turn their turrets back on them, dumbfriend

grug say tax bad
just working hard
bootstraps pull

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Laws don't determine reality. In reality, corporations are multiple people (and much more). Those individual people that make up the corporations do pay income tax.

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>everyone wants to buy cheap tasteless crap from the supermarket

I routinely buy from open markets because they have CHEAPER prices than any supermarket (including discounts). And usually the stuff is fresher.
You know why they're cheaper? Because open market sellers enjoy just about the least regulation out of any kind of business.

>laws don't determine reality
lol ok retard
your argument is literally
>the janitors and code monkeys pay income tax, but the billions of dollars in profits shouldn't be taxed nor the CEOs, because they're not a person (even though they are legally)

imagine being this cucked by corporations that you shill for them on a chilean chili recipe forum

Forcibly taxing anyone is bad. Fuck off.

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No one should pay taxes, but the people who make billions do pay taxes.