Has capitalism failed it's people? is socialism the way of the future?

Dude with one arm still kore productive than pol.

Capitalism hasn't failed jack, you cant do anything about peaople who dont plan well for retirement

capitalism only works until the Jews get involved, then it gets corrupted

This. Also, Distributism or death!

>capitalism works
>he does not have laughably cheap and affordable healthcare covering absolutely everything
>he does not have healthcare that's interest is to actually treat you and not milk you for money
>he does not have completely free education
>he does not have working, state subsidized public transportation to the point of not needing a car in every major city
MUH COMMIE ROACHES, AMERICA NUMERO UNO, ESSE!

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Looks like Pinochet missed one of you faggots. You work for what you get.
>he does not have laughably cheap and affordable healthcare covering absolutely everything
>he does not have healthcare that's interest is to actually treat you and not milk you for money
Healthcare is over regulated as it is and that is the only reason it is so expensive.
>he does not have completely free education
We already have free primary school education and it sucks as it is. We need to switch to a vouchers system if we want to see healthy competition between schools. As far as higher education goes, I'd prefer not to give people a free ticket to marxist reeducation camps to get a degree in gender studies. Work your way in if you want to go to college and get a degree in
the STEM field. Otherwise become a trade worker and start making money right away.
>he does not have working, state subsidized public transportation to the point of not needing a car in every major city
The NY metro runs longer and more efficiently than the London metro faggot. Big cities are full of niggers and crime anyways. Rural and Suburban Master-Race.
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It unironically is capitalism's fault that degeneracy has grown. Capitalism's only concern is profits, nothing else. If fucking kids, murder, race mixing, war brings in profit then capitalism will grow those industries. If you ban any of it, then you're a pro big government socialist.

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Not real capitalism.
Its 2019 and whites are still not extinct

Yeah, I don't get OP's problem. The old man has something to do, and must be healthy enough to do it. What does OP expect?

>It unironically is capitalism's fault that degeneracy has grown. Capitalism's only concern is profits, nothing else. If fucking kids, murder, race mixing, war brings in profit then capitalism will grow those industries.
No it's your government allowing all those things to happen, we banned porn, race-mixing, and executed pedophiles in the past and we weren't socialists for doing it. A nation can decide what is fair game in a market economy.

>Capitalism doesn't work because I can't afford things!

Why is communism the answer to the failings of capitalism? I personally feel that Fascism is the answer.

Imagine spending so many years of your life slaving away for kikes so that you willingly go back to it after you don't need to anymore.

They have no Hobbies, they have all the time in the world, and they refused to give that time to their own kin when directly asked

They don't bother to invest time in their own family

I have an ever-growing list of things I want to do but cannot because of their economic idiocy from before I was born, even though they could find it all and the investment will be returned almost immediately, but I'm called the lazy one, or I'm told to stop eating avocado toast

They are soulless

Capitalism works if the people in it are basically decent and respect the country they're a part of and won't deliberately contribute to making it worse.

>they could find it all
fund it all*

All of those "bans" are by definition market regulations enforced by a big government that has the power to enforce those bans. Bans are anti-capitalist, therefore it's socialist. If you agree with this, then you're a socialist.

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>is socialism the way of the future?
with socialism there'd be nothing on those shelves.

>I have an ever-growing list of things I want to do but cannot because of their economic idiocy from before I was born.

That is why this notion:

>Yep, my gramps went to go work at Home Depot a year after retirement to have something to do

is unfathomable to me. An unlimited about activities/hobbies & creative pursuits one can explore, and the only thing some people can come up with is going back to work. Takes a true wagie mentality.

No. Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. Socialism is the public ownership of the means of production. Banning Methamphetamine isn't socialism. You are an extremely dumb person.

How many countries need to collapse before socialism is abandoned?

You should research the difference between a publisher and a platform you enormous fucking faggot

What is socialisms plan for a 98 yr old?

Provide the difference between a regulation and a ban. Explain why one is capitalist and the other isn't.

I expect if the Millennials ever do go to retirement homes that it's going to look like a fucking lan party 24/7

>Healthcare is over regulated as it is and that is the only reason it is so expensive.
So you be saying, that your government is doing exactly what an authoritarian government does by excreting tight state control and regulation over certain field which is impossible to happen in capitalism and is the culprit of the damned gommies.
>We already have free primary school education and it sucks as it is
Yeah, it's cause you as a population are fucking retarded, literally. Just look at your cognitive dissonance.
>As far as higher education goes, I'd prefer not to give people a free ticket.
>I'd prefer not to give people a free ticket to marxist reeducation camps to get a degree in gender studies.
This is the result of student loans and monetized education. When it's the state that pays for education from it's budget, it does not spend it's money like retarded nigger on fringe degrees. Unlike higher education that's turned into mere profit making by handing 18 old kids 100 000$ worth of student loans to keep this unsustainable craziness going.
>Work your way in if you want to go to college and get a degree in
Kind of what we got in here, fail the entry exam, you gone. Fail the semester exams, you gone.
>The NY metro runs longer and more efficiently than the London metro faggot.
Yeah, and if you don't have metro line going into your part of the city, you're fucked. I am talking about buses/trolleys taking you literally everywhere.
>Big cities are full of niggers and crime anyways.
Dunno man, I can walk shitfaced alone at 3 AM in Prague without worrying about being shanked by some nigger. For some reason, the ex-commie shitholes are considerably safer than western countries. I wonder why that is.

It's amusing how you mutts can go out of your way defending your unsustainable and already crumbling lifestyle. But yeah, american way of life is sure way to go. Bright future ahead.

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Is capitalism an actual theory like communism?
It seems like it just developed
Did somebody write a book for it like Marx did for communism?

My dad retired from being a machinist in the oil industry after 30 years to take an entry level part time machinist position for some local shop. I too have no plans I’m actually retiring. Work is in my blood

Health and education are heavily influenced by the state, both in terms of formation to be allowed to produce and by its subsidies (student loans much). Which is even worse here where it is funded with stolen money.

Regulationism isn't socialism moron. Regulations can certainly stand to hurt the economy, but there is a certain amount of it that helps. You're a retard if you believe there is a hard dichotomy between anarcho-capitalism and socialism. Even Milton Friedman believed in a very limited number of regulations.

Capitalism's doing what it's always done: profiteer. Socialism would do what it always does: powermonger.
You are far more likely to survive the former, and far more likely to be glad you survived it.

There is theory, but its laws are more descriptive than coercive, unlike communism.

Check out Adam Smith and Ayn Rand.

This.
> Oh noes. Steve Jobs traded away 20 hours if my work for a device that will give me hundred of hours of entertainment with my consent, giving me the product of his mind and genius, and of his employees, earning him a larger income than mindlessly flippin' burgers.
> He needs to pay for his crimes.

>So you be saying, that your government is doing exactly what an authoritarian government does by excreting tight state control and regulation over certain field which is impossible to happen in capitalism and is the culprit of the damned gommies.
Our government is full of fucking lefties, especially in the various ABC agencies that plague us with worthless regulations. I never said things are perfect in the US, I more or less believe we had a very beautiful founding and things have gone steadily downhill.
>Yeah, it's cause you as a population are fucking retarded, literally. Just look at your cognitive dissonance.
We have niggers and wetbacks. There's no denying it. However, our white population has a higher IQ than yours.
>This is the result of student loans and monetized education. When it's the state that pays for education from it's budget, it does not spend it's money like retarded nigger on fringe degrees. Unlike higher education that's turned into mere profit making by handing 18 old kids 100 000$ worth of student loans to keep this unsustainable craziness going.
State schools get federal funding and have federal employees are are some of the shittiest. Private schools have the market incentive to produce students that are marketable upon graduation.
>Yeah, and if you don't have metro line going into your part of the city, you're fucked. I am talking about buses/trolleys taking you literally everywhere.
I see no problem in the small city I live in. There is a bus line that goes just about everywhere. Most people just prefer cars anyways, and its much nicer to drive for that matter.
>Dunno man, I can walk shitfaced alone at 3 AM in Prague without worrying about being shanked by some nigger. For some reason, the ex-commie shitholes are considerably safer than western countries. I wonder why that is.
No nigs + too poor to attract gibs-seeking migrants.

I am just saying that there is a reason why mutts are a laughing stock. They are so ignorantly dumb yet screech the loudest. Their mental capabilities are those of a child. They look at the decaying sate of their country and their nation and try to point their fingers outwards, finding the boogeyman to blame.

The countries that adopted the western lifestyle as last are the ones doing the best in all regards to healthy society. Western Europe is already neck deep in the shit of cultural marxism, feminism, degeneracy and everything else pozzed and American MadeTM that has been exported in here for the past 50 years. While at the same time, mutts can go to the olympic tier of mental gymnastics on how it's communism/socialism fault while completely leaving out, that the countries, being in the Warsaw pact are at the same time least pozzed ones.

It's sad and funny at the same time. They've been able to sustain their lifestyle through predatory behavior, sucking dry everything on their path but they already passed the point of no return and slowly but surely everyone in the world is giving them middle finger because they aren't the world police hegemony they used to be in the past and as a direct result of that it's getting worse in US by the day while they aimlessly run around, crying, wondering why is that happening. They are doomed nation that will never ever recover simply because all of their accomplishments, funded by the brain drain will leak out to the next big guy being able to repeat the cycle of US.

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Refer to this post, you dumb mutt, ironically, it should answer all of your points without me even seeing your post to begin with while typing it out.

>Capitalism works.
>Capitalist societies always result in unfathomable human suffering and starvation for the masses whereas Communist societies end up with excess food and a more comfortable standard of living.
Oh wait I got it twisted didn't I

And dick

The countries of the Warsaw Pact were just left really poor, which generally leads to a more socially conservative and nativist demeanor among whites. That's fucking it.

thankyou.

>implying we have true capitalism

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Nothing works when you're overrun with niggers, spics, liberals and women are allowed to vote.

Socialism withered on the vine last fucking decade. You are pathetic to still be sucking off Marx's meme cock.

It's over. Make up something new if you want to be radical. You are simply tired and old.

Happens a lot here too. Also death comes quick to those who retired without a shitload of invested hobbies. If you think you're going to stop going to work after 30 years and just hang out on the couch, you'll be dead by 70

>wanting EA to be the state

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Oh yeah, the eternal anglo with his starvation and famine memes taking it out of context of time when it happened, completely omitting why that happened in the first place and how it was just inevitable. Also leaving out the uncomfortable and absolutely unparalleled growth after second world war. I don't see shanty towns full of crackheads on my streets. I don't see child grooming gangs committing crimes unchecked. I don't see people being questioned by the police for twitter posts.

There has been two pasts, our past resulted in fairly bright future. Your past resulted in Orwellian and totalitarian nightmare. Care to elaborate why is that so?

>The countries of the Warsaw Pact were just left really poor, which generally leads to a more socially conservative and nativist demeanor among whites. That's fucking it.
Now I don't get it, so is it a fault of leftists or not? Or are you some edgy teen that thinks what it means to be left is to be the US abomination with it's identity politics and unchecked migration and everything cancerous it parades around as virtues, if so, then my earlier post holds even more weight than before. Like I said, you're just dumb nation with mental capabilities of a child, unable to understand what's going on and why it's happening.

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Playing Doom and Starcraft with my grandkids sounds great

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Isn't the fact that our social webs have degraded to the point that geriatric people's only choices are working retail or withering away form lack of human contact, itself, kind of a scathing indictment of capitalism?

What kind of retard actually wants to be that old? People living longer lives has no positive effect on society, all it does is just increase the amount of space we need

It’s go to work or sit on a couch all day.
I know to someone like you sitting on the couch all day sounds like a dream come true, but for others it’s hell.
Some people do, other do not.

fascism

This everyone didnt waych molymeme videos yet. Back to skewl

>There has been two pasts, our past resulted in fairly bright future. Your past resulted in Orwellian and totalitarian nightmare.

That must be why your country is the world's sole superpower while the other offers nothing but cheap prostitutes.

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>People living longer lives has no positive effect on society, all it does is just increase the amount of space we need

It's called not being a sociopath. Those old people may not mean anything to you, but they mean a lot to family and friends.

You could just get some hobbies or friends. Oh wait, your hobby is slaving and your friends are your slavemasters. Kek.

>Has capitalism failed it's people?
>it's
Not as much as American education has failed you, apparently.

want an entitled cunt, no one owes you anything

>live to be 98 and healthy enough to work a physical job
>surrounded by an incredible selection of affordable conveniences and luxuries that would make any person living 150 years ago shit their pants

Yeah capitalism fucking owns actually

>its people
No, it has benefitted the Jews quite well.

>That must be why your country is the world's sole superpower while the other offers nothing but cheap prostitutes.
Guess which will hurt more. Being the former world sole superpower that's now being bullied back by the very same kids from lower grades he used to steal lunch money from as a result of comfortably sitting on his ass, getting fatter, slower and dumber while they attended the gym class and can can now stand up to you. Or being the formerly insignificant and irrelevant country known for being exporter of cheap but gorgeous prostitutes that will in the future remain, insignificant, irrelevant and stable country known for being exporter of cheap but gorgeous prostitutes?

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This old man is literally contributing to a world where you can buy new pants for 11 fucking dollars. Seriously for 44 dollars you can have a week's worth of pants. Stop. Whining.

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>implying

my point exactly

Ok, do how do you draw the line? Why is ban/limiting porn "good for society" but doing the same for guns or carbon emissions anti-capitalist? Why do you get to decided what power the government has to limit my freedom?

My foreman is going to be 80 this summer. Hes been pipelining for 60 years, and has been a foreman for at least 50 years. Those guys make 5 or 6k a week plus bonuses and he still drags his wife around the country to work. I dont get it.

Imagine being this salty that some people chose to work hard.

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The problem isnt any 'ism its people. No system is perfect and in the end gets gamed by people who abuse their status or knowledge.

I cant argue against the fact capitalism is the most successful model so far but it has a fucking ton of problems.

SWEDEN YES

Socialism will be crushed! We have had enough. USA Uber alles!

>It's either being a slave or sitting on a couch all day
Good goyim!

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Also
>The government using its massive power to influence markets and have politicians enrich themselves and their friends isn't socialism

user, can you please stop being retarded?

Amen, brother. We run this show and we are in a position to run the whole planet. Only our hope that each human would desire freedom is the only reason 3rd world shit holes aren't picking my cotton.

Why is he working?
Maybe it's just something to do because he never had any hobby in his life and the only thing he knows how to do is work?

My dad retired recently and is bored af.

No and no. Get a job you lazy fucker!!

Capitalism has failed

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Of course it will. Some old dude actually getting out of the house is literally their argument.

It bugs them to look at his one arm. They are anti-human idolaters.

whatever failings exist with capitalism, socialism will never be the answer.

>Standing around all day doing nothing is working hard

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It's called being a fucking human and not taking up all that space so new generations can come up into the world. Stop being AIDS

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owned epic style XD

All I want to do is fish all day. I want to be a guide on a lake and take people fishing.

This requires waking up early everyday, planning, strategy, and cleaning/maintaining your boat and equipment.

If I retired now Id be doing this everyday. I do it in all my spare hours. Who the FUCK is sitting on the couch?

Third position you uneducated nigger

Rather working at waltmarts at that age than being tied to a nursing home. Seriously Jow Forums YOU DO NOT want to end up at a nursing home, suicide is far better, those places are hell

>guns are capitalist
>auto industry isn't making eco friendly the new norm
Carbon tax is just another way for the government to collect money, you fucking retard.

>What is not understood by most bankers and economists is that the only method available for keeping the economy running is to sink further into debt (at interest), as debt based money is the only source of our means of exchange. Hence the persistent mantra that growth must be maintained at all costs, because if all loans were to be repaid, the money supply would vanish, and we would be reduced to exchanging goods and services with bank notes and barter. In the current situation a world-wide debt cancellation would therefore not be out of place, if the money supply could be replaced by state bank created interest free and debt free money.

>The underlying reason why the developed world, which has in the past produced superior, long-lasting products, has been partially deindustrialised, is so that inferior goods have to be continually produced by third world countries in order to fuel the growth when its indigenous population is shrinking. This policy of deliberately planned obsolescence and forced growth also has very deleterious effects on the environment. As will be observed in the final section, the collapse of female fertility rates in the developed world, which is a direct consequence of usury, will lead to the extinction of civilisation.

- Stephen Mitford Goodson

It has not failed but it is failing before our eyes