Why do you reject globalism pol? You don't have to destroy it to solve any problems you think it has, instead you could create your own form of globalism.
Destroying the World Tribe is like destroying capitalism because a minority of the population is homeless.
You don't have to be so angry, we're here to help.
The International Community Is Good
Juan Gutierrez
James Campbell
A world where everybody is pretty much the same sounds boring to me.
Kevin Torres
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>UN flag
cucks want homogeniety. that's not how human nature works. an entire generation of strong men were mauled by the wars of the twentieth century, especially the second world war.
strong men seek power and your dreams will never come about, we are already rising to claim ourselves territories again. Suck a duck
Levi Carter
Because I know equality to be a false god.
I know we are not equal. I know Africans we’re happier when they lived in their on tribes and cultures, now they live in slums because we brought “civilization” to there continent.
I know that Americans were happier when we had an identity.
I don’t worship GDP or equality, I worship my people, my kin. Why should I be happy to give my job to poor Mexicans who live like slaves? Why should Chinese children be happy that they get to work in sweatshops as slaves? Because the super rich get to make more money that way? How does that help my children be happy?
Julian Hill
They don't have to be the same, they can wear different clothing, have different accents, and eat different food. They can even have different religions and philosophies as long as they don't dismantle our inter-connectivity. Bringing people together, doesn't necessarily mean standardizing them. If that is what you think will happen, maybe your role in the future will be to create more cultural diversity.
Luke Myers
No, that’s the sanitized PR front for globalism. Real globalism doesn’t work like that.
When I was a child I half jokingly said I wanted to conquer the world so that I could bring the world together like you say. I dreamed of all the power of humanity reaching towards the same goals. It was very amusing to my family. I realize now that is just the pipe dream of a child. Real life isn’t that clean.
Real life is mega capitalists taking advantage of third worlders, at the expense of their own countrymen. Real life is an entrenched elite that wants to further secure their power. Real life is communism killing hundreds of millions in a century. You are either a bad shill, or somehow who has swallowed the fake front of globalism. I hope we can turn you to our side by the end of this thread.
Jason Morris
>Because I know equality to be a false god.
Globalism doesn't have to result in equality.
>I know Africans we’re happier when they lived in their on tribes and cultures, now they live in slums because we brought “civilization” to there continent.
Modern civilization can reduce their mortality rate, I wouldn't consider that being worse off.
>I worship my people, my kin.
You can offer them more with the spoils of global trade.
You have a choice in what the endgame of globalism is, you just need to embrace it.
Thomas Cruz
Of not equality than the aims of globalism are the exact same as the aims of colonialism.
Globalism has forced millions of third worlders into our nations with the exact same arguments that colonial elites used back then. It’s our duty to help the poor third worlders. It’s the WHITE MANS BURDEN. Except now, that means bringing them here, not going there.
Adam Reyes
We're not trying to conquer the world, this is a result of technological developments. The internet, international trade due to the US navy keeping the world safe, and the rapid transport of people has produced this unity. Instead of rejecting its strengths and being crushed by people to accept them, why not use these new tools to benefit people.
Jordan Roberts
>Of not equality than the aims of globalism are the exact same as the aims of colonialism.
I disagree, colonialism was about forcefully extracting wealth from conquered peoples. Globalism is about mutually benefiting each other through the peaceful exchange of goods, services, and ideas.
This is not the white man's burden, it is mutually beneficial to increase the economic productivity, and wealth of other people. It's about the relatively rich and the relatively poor making each others lives better.
Jason Parker
You are trying to conquer the world. You are just doing it in a very subtle way. Why would you call globalism if not spreading the power of the already powerful? Globalism only helps one class of people, the rest of the people on earth are directly hurt by it.
Considering that suicide rates are skyrocketing all over the world, I don’t think that this wonderful new world you’re creating is making anyone happier.
Christopher Young
Say that to the slaves in China and Africa. We aren’t extracting wealth from them, we are just “sharing the wealth”. We aren’t exploiting you by paying you pennies to work 16 hour days, we are just “mutually benefitting”
Tyler Stewart
Regionalism makes more sense. At least an American capitalist would have trouble exploiting the British middle class. They don’t have any trouble exploiting the poor people on Latin America though.
Globalism is about making the rich richer, that’s all.
Nicholas Gonzalez
Conquering the world requires that we impose our will upon others. We only want to give people more opportunities, more resources, and more friends. We want you to have the tools to forge your own destiny.
Chinese people are getting wealthier though.
data.worldbank.org
Just so I understand what you're saying: do you think that Capitalism is inherently exploitative, and so we can't let it spread too far?
William Morgan
You are imposing your will on others. What else would you call the EU making laws for people in Greece who didn’t vote for the people making said laws?
Chinese elites are getting wealthier, but strangely, suicides are still climbing? How? Their GDP is higher, GDP directly translates to happiness right?
Absolutely capitalism is exploitative I’m not a capitalist retard. You equate “right wing” with the Republican Party because you are uninformed. Both capitalist and communists worship money, like I said, I worship my people and kin, and I seek to make them happier.
John Wilson
I’m surprised it’s only me and you itt, are there any lurkers here? I’m mostly posting for them. I know I won’t change your mind.
Xavier Myers
I’m also surprised you aren’t a 1 post by Id shill. If nothing else thanks for sticking around to have a proper conversation with me, im having fun.
Cameron Evans
If the problem is the EU, you can either dismantle it, or reform it. You don't have to destroy economic and cultural inter-connectivity.
Chinese GDP per capita is increasing though. Just because some people get rich does not mean that others automatically get poorer. The suicides are a problem, but you don't need to destroy capitalism or globalism to prevent them, if you destroyed them the loss in material well being would contribute to the psychological damage.
Capitalism has some problematic elements, but that doesn't mean that the entire thing is broken. These issues can be fixed by international organizations, civil society organizations, and states. A rat in your house does not mean that you should burn your house down.
Gavin Clark
No problem, I think that we can both agree that the current system has some bugs in it, I just think that a full rejection of the system is counter-productive.
Oliver Smith
What I’m saying is the GDP growth is only reflecting the growth in the elite. The poor are still just as poor as before, the GDP growth means absolutely nothing when it comes to the average Chinese citizens happiness.
Yes capitalism has a lot of pros, and all in all I think it’s a far better system than communism, but I think there is also a third position, that prioritizes the people, not the GDP. A system that does not pretend everyone is equal, but instead accepts the inequality, and rather than destroy that inequality, tries to make the best of it.
Capitalism will always lead to the elites exploiting the poor, communism will do the same, but worse. We have to take the best parts of ALL forms of government, and again, prioritize the people, not the GDP.
Anthony Brooks
Maybe there is some merit in that, but I think you would agree that when there are trade deals between countries with different cultures, different economic power, and different standards of living, you will always get exploitation. Look at NAFTA, which has not helped the middle or lower classes of either Anglo-North America or Mexico.
Trade deals among culturally, and economically similar nations are more beneficial for everyone. Something like Western Europe, Anglo-North America, and NZ/AUS would be fine, as long as it is strictly economic, that’s the problem with the EU.
When unelected bureaucrats in Brussels can decide that people in Poland need to accept refugees or face consequences, that is an empire, not a democratic confederation.
Thomas Hernandez
I still think that the well being of the Chinese is increasing.
Wealth inequality is decreasing. data.worldbank.org
China's HDI is also increasing, which shows that human well being measured in other forms is also increasing. hdr.undp.org
>We have to take the best parts of ALL forms of government, and again, prioritize the people, not the GDP.
I agree, I just think that international communication, travel, and trade will help us achieve this.
Joseph Garcia
>When unelected bureaucrats in Brussels can decide that people in Poland need to accept refugees or face consequences, that is an empire, not a democratic confederation.
I think that this is a criticism of the current regional order, but you can have globalism without the EU being authoritarian.
>when there are trade deals between countries with different cultures, different economic power, and different standards of living, you will always get exploitation.
I think that you will get different countries receiving different benefits, but they are still benefits, how it's distributed is another issue. In the case of NAFTA it helped the economies of North America, but its consequences were not managed well. The solution would be to account for those consequences, not avoid the benefits to avoid the costs.
Ayden Scott
International communication is going to happen, no matter what. Technology advancing will make sure of that.
HDI May be increasing, but I still think suicide rates are a better indication of the overall satisfaction in life. I think I’m the west our greatest hurdle is the pointlessness of life, I don’t know how to solve that. I’m not that smart, but I don’t think globalization is helping with that. I even think some of our countries are too big. What I want as an Arizonan hardly ever coincides with what a New Yorker wants, and the same is a hundred times more true when you compare me to your average Indian, or Saudi Arabian.
That is another problem with globalization. Communication is fine, I am always in favor of average people being able to gain more perspective, trade is fine among similar economies, that would simply increase the size of the market. Social policy however, should be decided on the smallest level that is reasonable.
Aaron Bennett
Well you’ve changed my mind about one thing, i don’t think you are a deluded idiot. I think you have put a lot of thoughts into your beliefs and I respect that. I also think we are starting to talk in circles, so I’m gonna go ahead and do something else.
You’ve given me a bit to think about, but I think dismantling the system and starting again is actually easier than reforming the system we already have.
What country are you posting from, btw?
Adrian Parker
The one you would expect. Have a nice day.
Adam Long
Haha, at least it’s not Israel. Have a good day.
Jason Carter
cooperation =/= globalism
fuck off centralisation commie