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Yeah, definitely. A lot of guys think that being nice to you entitles them to sex, especially when they're younger. Or if they're very immature.
I've met many Nice Guys (TM). I met some IRL, but most of them online. I spend too much time on Jow Forums to not run into some.

>And as for the second, why dont you give those guys a chance?
Because I don't like them. I either think they're not my type physically or personality wise, or just don't have any romantic desire for them because I feel no "spark".
If a guy seems to be a Nice Guy, I rarely even get that close with them on a friendship level, to be honest. I'm kind to everybody as a rule, but really I don't care much for them: losing them is not a huge concern.
I used to pull the "I don't want to lose you as a friend" thing when I was younger, but it was mostly because I didn't want to tell them "I think you're kind of ugly and a little dumb".
The few male friends I have are people who are pretty well adjusted, and not "nice guys". Both of the guys I consider good friends of mine are good looking, and I know they think the same of me, but they always treated me like they treat their male friends and respected me. They never made advances or anything.

> Do you think his wife will let him continue being your bud?
One of my male friends is married, his wife is a lovely woman and has no problem with us being friends.
She actually texted me today, to thank me because I supported him while she was in hospital (did chores for him, cooked his food and such).

>But without their vaginas women are just inferior versions of men.

Most women and men are equally boring. It isn't a gender thing. It's a "until you get to know them so they open up to you and become less boring" kind of deal. You probably have an easier time doing that with other guys for obvious reasons, so you just assume all women are boring.

100 percent for sure women are the leaders, entrepreneurs, drivers and builders of the world b.

I might go out with her once or twice and then talk it out with her that I dont think it is going where she wants but I really appreciate her interest. I wouldn't offer up friendship as a bonus prize. I would say that I understand if she needs some time alone and if she doesnt want to hang out anymore and it's totally up to her and I respect her choice. I wouldn't force a friendship. I would leave that in her court.

But I'm out of high school with a job, so somewhat mature.

It's funny women always want to talk about the first type of nice guy and not the second, a friend that just starts liking them romantically one day.

Those people are out there too and both men and women fall into that bucket. I have a cousin that is 320 lbs and she gets friendzoned all the time. She has mostly Male friends and she'll fall for this one and then the other. She's wanted to date this one specific guy for 4 years.

She doesnt feel entitled but she still likes him.

It's really sad. They get along so well and have lots of fun but he's never going to give her a chance because she's pretty overweight.

Dating is so sad in that regard. She's got a good job and cooks and is very supportive and she is rewarded by watching her Male friends go after pretty girls totally out of their league. If one person could lower their standards , 2 people could be happy, but it is what it is.

Wealth and status = interest? Are you just a goldigger?

>Because I don't like them. I either think they're not my type physically or personality wise, or just don't have any romantic desire for them because I feel no "spark".
>If a guy seems to be a Nice Guy, I rarely even get that close with them on a friendship level, to be honest. I'm kind to everybody as a rule, but really I don't care much for them: losing them is not a huge concern.
>I used to pull the "I don't want to lose you as a friend" thing when I was younger, but it was mostly because I didn't want to tell them "I think you're kind of ugly and a little dumb".
>The few male friends I have are people who are pretty well adjusted, and not "nice guys". Both of the guys I consider good friends of mine are good looking, and I know they think the same of me, but they always treated me like they treat their male friends and respected me. They never made advances or anything.

Oh wow let's unpack this.

My issue with the idea of spark, is it's kind of bullshit. Someone is always going to develop it first. Life isnt a movie. And it's usually just infatuation or "honeymoon phase"

Do you know how many people get in a cycle of dating someone because of a spark, fucking a lot, never building a working relationship, then developing a spark for someone else and cheating or breaking up? They jump from one infatuation to the next. I have one friend that has done this 5 times. And another that has been divorced twice. They never stop to size someone up as good dsting material and then date them to develop a spark. They just jump into everything head first. Love will find a way, etc.

As for your current t Male friends. Would you date the attractive ones if you were both single and they asked? Have you ever felt a spark for any of them?

Men are infinitely more interesting than women.

Because you piss your pants at the idea of even approaching one.

I was dating this girl but she dumped me after six months because she was "Unhappy", I know she hates herself for a multitude of reasons and is fairly depressed, but the sex was great and I was loving and attentive. It's been two months but she still occasionally contacts me and views my shit on social media. I know she's talking to another guy, but she said things are moving a bit fast and he's an introvert. I'm doing no contact, Whenever we talk it's not because I've contacted her, its Whenever she decides to contact me.

How do I get her back, or should I just stick with the no contact?

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To be fair, as someone who talks to a lot of women, and am currently dating the most interesting girl I've ever met, on average they aren't very interesting.

I'm pretty sure it's biologically hard wired for them to be unable to self sustain among other things.

Many of them are people pleasers and low conflict. They wont fight the tide long enough to be interesting. And if they do they might hide it, worried you wont like them.

I felt similarly about the "spark", but after dating someone I was never infatuated for I changed my mind. We were a great match on the paper, he was great dating material, stable guy with his shit together and all, kind of cute. Never wasted my time so much, threw years of my life down the toilet.
I've met someone I had an instant, genuine connection with now and we have the best relationship. Crazy attracted to each other, same sense of humour, can spend days together without ever getting bored of each other. Been together for years and still don't regret my decision a bit. Never felt "infatuated" for anyone else.
I'm not saying the "spark" is enough to sustain a relationship, but will never start another relationship if I don't feel it if this one was ever to end.

>Would you date the attractive ones if you were both single and they asked? Have you ever felt a spark for any of them?
I have two male friends, they're both very good looking. I wouldn't date them, no.
I had a good energy with the one who is now married during our first conversation. But then we realised we are absolutely identical personality wise and got grossed out by each other. And from that moment things got extremely platonic.

Got laid this past cinco de mayo so try harder sweetie. Latinas are sluts.

>female insults

>go on tinder date with girl months ago
>it goes ok but she ghosts me after anyway
>6 months later
>she likes my profile again
wtf lol

Attentionwhore

For anyone: if I got a girls number at a bar a couple days ago would it be fine to just hit her up today about meeting her out on Friday for drinks or should I try to organize like an actual date kinda thing

Possibly got dumped and is looking to get your attention for back up.
Ignore her

Shid I didnt mean to reply to anyone

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Glad to hear you're a Very Mature Highschool Graduate, but it's not sad for someone to not date someone that they aren't interested in. She might be into him, but if he isn't into her, it would be stupid for him to date her. I don't feel sorry for her and I don't think it's fair to ask other people to lower their standards when it comes to who they allow into their lives and bodies. Sorry if women don't talk to you about the second type and but I've talked with plenty of women about them. Funny how we have different conceptions of what women talk about! What I think is sad is considering friendship to be a fucking bonus prize when your relationship was a friendship in the first place. I've had lots of friends get a crush on me- plenty were way younger than me, addicts of various types, or just fucking dumb as shit. Not people I wanted to date. If I gave each one a chance I'd have spent all my time going on dead-end dates and placing bandaids on weak egos. What I look for in a partner is not the same shit that I'll tolerate from a friend. I didn't give a single one of them a chance except for the one that I actually liked in a romantic way, and we've been together for 8 years.

Depressing.

I have a good female friend that I've known for 10 years. We would do anything for each other. She'd help me move. Pay Bill's. Work on cars. Paint my house. You name it.

And I have a spark for her. I've had it for 8 years. I just enjoy being in her presence.

But I dont niceguy.jpg. I dont force the issue or shit talk her boyfriends. I respect her choices and dont believe you can love someone and control them.

It is depressing to think there is nothing I can do and this amazing relationship is left to something clicking in her head one day. More so when you realize men rarely fall out of love and women rarely into it.

Guess I'll continue to fuck girls on tinder and watch her support unemployed dead beats that use her.

Romance. How wonderful.

Cuckboi

Why do people not fall in love?
What the fuck is chemistry?
There must be some way to control for it. I don't get it.
I don't want to date random people it seems stupid and ridiculous. There must be a better way than talking to random girls on the sidewalk and asking them out. There must be some way to avoid one-sided bullshit.
How is it possible that people can't settle, that even in history there is evidence that people weren't into the arranged marraige meme. I don't get it. Human beings are animals with strong evidence of monogamy despite potential fuck ups like cheating along the way. This shouldn't be difficult.
I don't want to so stupid shit with stupid people talking about star signs and being fickle retards. Like no wonder they say you usually do eventually find a date because they just fuck around the whole time.

Why do I have to put up with women's stupid made up emotional bullshit when I probably don't feel any of that because I'm a man and I'll fall for anything without these invisible concepts they probably use an excuse?
Why do I have to be disposable tissue? You know what, maybe MGTOW is right just a little. I don't need this shit. That's what Jow Forums always says after all. I don't "need" women at all.
I don't even need to care about the idiots they do think are best for them and their stupid stories about how oh I still love claire oh I'm still a little fucking bitch for a woman who uses me by exploiting my one-sided desire for sex as the primary dynamic of our relationship.
I don't need anyone.

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I think you'd be fine to ask her out for drinks; if that goes well, do a date after that.

>What I think is sad is considering friendship to be a fucking bonus prize when your relationship was a friendship in the first place

This is just how men think. Thank toxic masculinity and homophobia. Men are only allowed a full emotional release from SOs, not friends. Men would prize friendships more if they weren't so neutered for them.

Nb4 I'm salty yeah no shit.

Women are trash. The sooner you realize they’ll fucking go too far and lose all their rights in the upcoming years the happier you will be.

Go take a nap. I'm bitching in this thread and even I dont think shit is this bad. Fuck man.

Its just funny how people think I can find someone when people on here have stayed in shit relationships for what 4
2? 6? 10 years? I don't have 20 goddamn years to spare.

I just want to find a way to do this that's smart.
Also, yeah I guess I am tired from college...

Just give girls vagina tingles.

How can i turn a one night stand into a semi regular thing?

Theres a girl whose ive known for a couple years now. Ive always had a bit of a crush on her but i had a gf till recently so it never went anywere. I saw her last night at a party tho and she asked me to walk her home, when we got to hers we slept together and i stayed the night.

I was pretty fucking drunk so in all honesty i didnt enjoy the sex that much, and i really wanna see her again when im sober or just tipsy. I tried texting her tonight and she's replied but its all been very blunt and short.

I can take a hint but she was so into me last night and i am just confused. I also wanna try again soon because i only have a week left in my city before i go home forever.

Anyway im just gonna swing and either ask her for a drink or to come round, but i cant decide which has a better shot?

Let her come to you and fuck other women in the meantime.

There has to be some way to make good decisions. There has to be some way. Why do I fail because I wanted to get a good result?
I thought I was being smart.
Why do I have to learn all of a sudden that I have all these faults? I thought I was good. I thought I was stable and that I could be like my father and just find someone and it works out with the first person I'm interested in.

You've been pining for a fictional relationship for 8 fucking years instead of genuinely attempting to make connections with other women. You are literally the essence of nice guy- an irritating, depressive male tumor that just doesn't get what about him is so uninviting. You may not have revealed your power level to her, but surely you haven't fooled yourself into thinking you're anything more than this. Romance isn't some mystical concept that just clicks, romance is mutual effort and affection.

What is the evidence for monogamy in human beings? What is the evidence that men are less subject to emotionality? You fuckers are just good at tricking yourselves into thinking your emotional states are objective lmao. Your post is an actual temper tantrum. If you think that women are all about stupid, made up emotional bullshit, just don't date them. No one ''needs'' to date in order to function and live a fulfilled life.

only got a week left in this city man. Normally im pretty chill and id just play it as it comes but i kinda wanna see her again while i have the chance

Hit her up in a few days but distract yourself with other matters bro.

Chemistry is such a physical thing for me that it is hard to put into words.
First time we looked at each other eyes, I fell my heart sink into my stomach. Every time he smiles at me, I feel flustered. I feel high when I am around him: I don't feel as tired, as much in pain. When he touches me, my body feels electric. I can't help touching him. I love the way he smells, the way he tastes, the way he feels. I can't stop laughing when I'm around him, my head feels lighter. Sex with him is just something else.
It's almost addicting. Feels real good. We've been together for years now, and I still feel this way.

I do believe love is different from chemistry. Love is something you build together, it's not something you just have with someone.
It is serving each other, caring for each other more than you probably do about yourself, it is the desire to know each other deeply, it is the thoughtfulness and the tenderness you have for the person you're with.

Men do feel like this too, I don't know why you shouldn't "fall for this".

How do I know if a girl likes me?

alright not a bad plan, ill probably just ask her out for a drink tuesday. i have a lot on this weekend so luckily i couldnt ask her out even if i wanted to

If he doesn't mention his girlfriend at all while talking to me, but wants to know stuff about me instead or ends up constantly bringing up our shared interests, is it possible that he's into me or is that likely a more friendship dynamic?

I think that the most depressing thing is that you decided you'd have a perfect relationship together, so you're pining after your fictional romance instead of actually trying to pursue something real with her, or with someone else if she doesn't want you that way.

Does she want to be around with you? Do you have to put in effort?

I imagine her probably just enjoys flirting with you, OR the relationship is on the rocks and he wants you as an option for when they break up

third possibility is that he wants to cheat on his gf, thats the worst one ofc

I'm aware- women are their emotional dumping grounds. It's unfortunate that they're too stunted to realize that women get along without a constant relationship because we actually have functioning networks of emotional support via friendships.

And access to dick on tap.

>You've been pining for a fictional relationship for 8 fucking years instead of genuinely attempting to make connections with other women. You are literally the essence of nice guy- an irritating, depressive male tumor that just doesn't get what about him is so uninviting. You may not have revealed your power level to her, but surely you haven't fooled yourself into thinking you're anything more than this. Romance isn't some mystical concept that just clicks, romance is mutual effort and affection.

All of this red pill pickup artist shit. We're just friends. I'm interest but nothing has sparked for her. I don't do shit to get her nor expect anything in return for anything I do.

And I date and fuck other women. I've tried to find someone else. But for whatever reason none of that has worked out yet. Those relationships end and a few months later the bud and I will hang out and I'll be amazed at just how cool she is.

I guess categorize it all however you want. But I think it's my right to not like this scenario. It's stupid that people can see others for how special they are and it all be for nothing because the other person doesnt feel the same way. What's even the fucking point?

>We're just friends
You're not just friends. You've been in love with her for 8 years.
Friends don't have romantic feelings for their friends.

She’s just not interested in you like that. It is what it is.

The vast majority of the women I know are actively against hookup culture and are certainly not getting dick on tap. Keep telling yourself women only function because they can sate their thirst for ugly cock whenever they want. Sorry you have no friends, babe.

>in order to function and lead a fulfilled life
Then why do they deal with it?
I don't know that you're understanding where I'm coming from, which could be my fault. and actually before I went off on a tantrum, I did have a question that no one has really answered before:
Dating semi-random people seems like a bad way to go about things to me. Is there any other way or I'm just being stubborn and difficult?

You say this, but it doesnt sound like you have much sympathy for those that have one sided chemistry.

How can we as a society praise mutual chemistry as the best thing in life, while shunning and insulting those that hold onto oneside chemistry? If anything they should be pitied for having such an important but ultimately useless thing in their heart.

Damn. I'm having trouble keeping up with replies on mobile.

Thank you for yor reply femanon.
I don't realistically expect to receive a great answer, but this does well enough.

I don't have much sympathy for people who willingly subject themselves to pain.

I understand it can be soul crushing when you feel strongly attracted to someone and they don't reciprocate, but sticking around someone just to suffer more and more instead of moving on and giving yourself a chance to be happier with someone new is entirely your choice, and I don't see why I should feel bad for you. I don't feel bad for people who suffer due to personal decisions they take willingly.

You're very welcome. Have a good day user.

Isn't the lack of girlfriend talk, even if it's innocently mentioning stuff he's done with her, some kind of a tell?

>You're not just friends. You've been in love with her for 8 years.
>Friends don't have romantic feelings for their friends.

It's what she wants. I dont know what to tell you.

Yeah, I'm aware the typical Jow Forums advice is ghost her and move on. But we love each other. We do a lot for each other. It's a really positive relationship. Should I really just throw that away? It's not like I'm waiting for her. I have dated and fucked other people in those 8 years.

People who have successful, long-term relationships don't regard the things that effect their partner as bullshit. I don't DEAL with my partner's depression and emotional states, I help him with them because I love him and care about him. The best way to get a longterm relationship is to meet people over shared interests and go from there. I never took part in random dating.

Nothing I'm saying is PUA shit. You're an obsessed weirdo that can't let go of how ''special'' another person is and can't hack someone else for more than a couple months. I imagine you've never dated her, I assume you've never lived with her. You're in love with an effigy and haven't learned about the give-and-take necessary to actually be with someone.

You definitely should distance yourself from her if you're in love with her and your feelings aren't reciprocated.
Not necessarily ghost her, but hang around her much less and genuinely give other people a chance.

user I was the original poster that user is responding to and I don't see that in femanon's response at all.
I think I see what you are doing because I've been like this too: You're projecting how hard you are on yourself onto others, at least that's my guess.
I myself am sometimes afraid of women. I'm afraid that I won't understand them or that I'll start noticing that certain stereotypes are true or something and that I'll end up in a difficult situation.
But to get past that, you really need to start thinking what people are really saying when they post here, not seeing what you (don't) want to see.

Who is trolling who? I got lost.

>I don't feel bad for people who suffer due to personal decisions they take willingly.

This just sounds like victim blaming. Most suffering can be tracked back to a choice the individual made.

You can also argue that even if something is not your fault, your happiness is your responsibility, ultimately making all human suffering not deserving of pity.

No one asks to love anyone. All people, assuming they aren't a douche, deserve a little empathy.

eh maybe. When i was in a relationship sometimes i wouldnt mention it to a cute girl but id also never have cheated on my gf

both lads and gals

>have best friend
>great bloke, shares lots of interests with me
>we go out a lot with our group more than 3 times a week
>he a total bro and cares a lot

however

>he's really hostile to new guys (not girls) who join our group.
>makes fun of me but gets extremely pissy when i make fun of him
>shared an embarrassing video of me being drunk and refuses to delete it.
>VERY short tempered

How do i convince him to change his ways and grow up? i'm sick and tired of his behavior.

>inb4 cut him off
he has a lot of his own positive traits so i'm still not considering this.

>Nothing I'm saying is PUA shit. You're an obsessed weirdo that can't let go of how ''special'' another person is and can't hack someone else for more than a couple months. I imagine you've never dated her, I assume you've never lived with her. You're in love with an effigy and haven't learned about the give-and-take necessary to actually be with someone.

Doesnt this fly in the face of the idea of a "spark"?

Everyone just cycles back and forth from chemistry/spark and love. One minute we're saying people shouldn't date if they dont spark then we shift to love. But love is a thing you build and can have with people you dont want to fuck. Chemistry or a spark is just something that is there one day. And it can just disappear or reform elsewhere.

How the fuck should I know?

>This just sounds like victim blaming.
I'm not "victim blaming". You're not a victim here.
You love someone. They don't love you. Instead of doing the most mature and normal thing and moving on with your life, you pine after them for 8 years.
While I am sorry you feel sad, like I'm sorry everyone feels sad or hurts in general, I don't feel extreme sympathy for you for you since you are putting yourself in a position that keeps making you miserable by your own personal choice.

I feel a different kind of sympathy for a kid who gets run over by a drunk driver and a drunk driver who hits a tree. I feel sorry for both, but I'm not going to feel especially heartbroken for the second.

Thanks, user, have a great day!

What do girls notice about guys that guys don't think about?

Are you trolling because of the nice guy shit in th w thread right now?

Your bud wants to date you.

Each girl is different. I notice their shoes first, and then the state of their clothes.

mate i tl;dr'd all this thread just answer the damn question

>They don't love you. Instead of doing the most mature and normal thing and moving on with your life, you pine after them for 8 years.

Is it the most mature and normal thing? It's so common there is an entire industry selling product to teach men to let go. It is so common it birthed memes, incels, the whole beta/alpha shit, ladder theory etc. Its so common, people have been writing about unrequited love since at least the time of the Greeks and Roman's. It's so common that Japan can get like 600 episodes of an anime out it. Etc, etc.

Your bud wants to date you. Date him or have the talk.

>Then why do they deal with it?
You don't "deal" with your partner emotions. When you actually love someone their issues are not a problem for you.
My boyfriend had a lot of shit to deal with when we met, and still does. His life kind of sucked and I was the first person he opened up with, and we definitely dealt with a bunch of shit together.
If you truly love someone you just accept them for who they are, take care of them with their weaknesses, and help them carry their weight. And it is never a burden to you - it makes you feel good because you know you're helping them, and there's nothing in the world you want more than making them happy.
Hopefully they do the same for you so it doesn't feel one sided, and it's not too much weight on your shoulders.

>Is there any other way or I'm just being stubborn and difficult?
I don't think you should *date* random people. I think you should try to get to know random people. And then if you have a good feeling about someone, see if there's more about them that you like.
Expand your social circle, talk to people in class or at work, join a club or a class. See if there's someone who makes you think "shit, this person is REALLY cool". And then go from there.

Yes, user. The most normal and mature thing when someone doesn't want you back is to accept it and move on with your life. It sucks for a bit, but it stops sucking after a while.
Unrequited love exists, but most people don't pine after the same person for 8 years even if they never wanted them back. Trust me.

that's pretty fucking gay desu

You aren't speaking to a hivemind. I never personally mentioned a spark. However, I do believe in chemistry, which is people having an easy time being able to build mutual rapport due to compatible social traits. I don't think it's something that goes away. Personally, I wouldn't find it worthwhile to put the effort of love in with someone I didn't have chemistry and sexual attraction to, because those are important to me in a relationship.

How can you say he cares a lot when he's actively hostile towards others, openly mocks you, throws fits, and doesn't respect your wishes in the slightest? He sounds fucking embarassing. Let his actions speak for him. Don't waste your time.

you never wash your hands when you piss

I think its a matter of people having different moral conceptions, user. There's bitter anons, there's anons telling other user's to own up to their bullshit but what is bullshit and how much bullshit it is depends on the person.
To me, the right now is just proving how dumb it is to think in black and white.

Or I'm just talking out of my ass

>You don't "deal" with your partner emotions. When you actually love someone their issues are not a problem for you.
>My boyfriend had a lot of shit to deal with when we met, and still does. His life kind of sucked and I was the first person he opened up with, and we definitely dealt with a bunch of shit together.
>If you truly love someone you just accept them for who they are, take care of them with their weaknesses, and help them carry their weight. And it is never a burden to you - it makes you feel good because you know you're helping them, and there's nothing in the world you want more than making them happy.
>Hopefully they do the same for you so it doesn't feel one sided, and it's not too much weight on your shoulders.

>tfw the girl you pine after has never had any of her bfs feel this way for her

Fuck this world

Despite being a total asshole sometimes, he does care when personal shit happens or when i'm gone for a while. Like i said, he has lots of positive traits as a best friend.

But i gotta word this better: he's my best friend for a reason. if he would be the type of person you described i'd cut him off without asking anons on a hawaiian pillow painting based imageboard in the first place.

Then again, every friend has his own negative traits and i'm just trying to tell him to grow the fuck up.

The thing

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>Yes, user. The most normal and mature thing when someone doesn't want you back is to accept it and move on with your life. It sucks for a bit, but it stops sucking after a while.
>Unrequited love exists, but most people don't pine after the same person for 8 years even if they never wanted them back. Trust me.

How do you read stuff like what user said about how good a good relationship is and be so quick to just throw a chance of it in the garbage? And then do what? Randomly meet people on bumble?

It's pretty obvious to anyone else. If he's getting jealous of dudes, he likes you or at least thinks your hot.

I had a friend very similar to him with severe alcoholism issues. He only started to get his shit together when he was cut off. If he isn't really that bad about it though, maybe try to have a proper sit-down convo with him and stay calm. A lot of people are just highly emotionally unskilled and act like children when criticized. It might be necessary to sugarcoat a little to get him to listen.

He wants to either date or fuck you. Maybe both.

I'm the same person who wrote the post about good relationships.
You don't have a chance of a good relationship. You're actually throwing away chances of building good relationships just to sit there and wait for this girl to notice you. And she will probably never love you the way you love her.

You should move on and meet new people through shared interests, or yeah, even bumble. And maybe you'll find someone who you just genuinely click with, who makes you lose your mind, who is right for you, and can love you. You're wasting your time waiting for something that, clearly, is never going to come.

>You should move on and meet new people through shared interests, or yeah, even bumble.

I already do this

No, you don't. You stick around this woman and love her wholeheartedly.
Cut her off, or at least strongly reduce the time you spend with her, and genuinely try to find someone new.

guy is straight and really desperate for pussy. he also shares the same tfw no gf feels as me so perhaps he just wants to eliminate competition who aren't his close friends. i highly doubt he's ironically a faggot.

also for the record, i'm a dude

sounds good, what do you mean by sugarcoat btw? the way i see it, if i try to have a sit down with him he'll either get angry again and refuse to talk about it. Also here's the story of why i wrote the greentext above:

>we make plans to go to a bar with another friend.
>third friend is tired so he doesn't come
>me and him walk to the bar
>decide to call up some new folks we met the other day
>tell him he should add them to our whatsapp group
>he refuses
>i'm confused so i ask him why
>he gets angry
>sighs loudly, tells me some bullshit excuses on why not to include them (such as they're new, one guy is really quiet and such)
>starts ranting about how i'm always winding him up
>i tell him to calm down
>he gives me the silent treatment now, browses his phone angrily.
>its just the two of us so i tell him i'm gonna cut home if he's gonna act like that. he's too pissed and a real party pooper
>"you're an asshole" as he cuts off to a different way home.

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Maybe he's insecure and uncomfortable around new people and either doesn't recognize that in himself or doesn't feel like he can tell you that. In the future, I would ask him about the why of what's bothering him (assuming you care, and it seems like you do) instead of informing him that you're leaving. It might be necessary to do this in private. I say to sugarcoat in that you have to be overly calm and not have reactiveness yourself to get anywhere with someone like this.

Seems like the the most helpful advice around here so cheers mate.

Also for the record i left him not because i'm an asshole or anything but because you can't really enjoy some cold beer with a friend who acts like a bitch on her period. Its not the first time happening, but this time i ditched because last time it was literally drinking beer while both of us are stuck to our phones without saying anything and then just leave after 10 mins.

so yeah, thanks again for the advice

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