My gf said she would allow a hypothetical 3 year old son to dress up as a girl

My gf said she would allow a hypothetical 3 year old son to dress up as a girl

Id absolutely nope the fuck out and divorce this woman if that happened.

Should I just end it now so she doesn't brainwash my kids?

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>would allow
I don't think any 3 year olds would want to dress up as the opposite gender, they can barely talk at that age

You're afraid of having trans kids? I wonder how that happens. When I was a kid I played with girls and did some things they did when we played together but when I looked at myself in the mirror there was a great discomfort that took hold of me, like a fear. I stopped doing that and I drew a line, nobody conditioned me to do this. Since then, I had my doubts when I was a kid but by the time I was in high school I knew I was straight.

I wouldn't date a woman who actively tries to convince our kids to dress as girls, but if your kid is gay or tranny you can't just beat them or ignore it dude. Not accepting your kids produces so much damage.

When my kid was 4 she once wore a trashbag with holes cut into it and cut off half her hair to finish the style. Kids do all sort of crazy shit, because theyre ficjing crazy and have no prrset notions of tradition or whatever, wearing a dress sounds like a minor thing. Maybe you should stop taking it so seriously. "Allowing" a kid to do something is pointless 99% of the time. It's more about forgiving it afterwards.

Same. I had a lot of girl friends in school when I was really young, would read "girly comics" too (cos I thought the girls characters were hot). Still grew up to be normal.
I feel like trans people usually have other serious issues going on in their life to have such a serious identity crisis.

No, stop being a retard. Kids don't typically have any sense of gender identity until 5 or 6. I played with Barbies with my older sister when I was 4 and 5, but I still ended up being typically male in most respects. My nephew enjoyed playing with glitter when he was 3 and 4, but at 11 he's as boyish as can be. My dad jumped out of a tree when he was 4 or 5 with an umbrella in hand to see if he would float down to the ground like Mary Poppins, but that didn't stop him from turning into a grizzled, decidedly masculine Vietnam vet.

It'll be alright. Even if you do hate trans people, your kids will have a 99.999 percent chance of not being trans. It's a rare condition. Either way, don't get your panties in a wad when or if the time comes that your 2-4 year old child ever shows interest in anything feminine. Toddlers are instinct-driven animals, they don't adhere to social norms even if they end up being the world's biggest normalfag later on.

It's strange, the thing is I really didn't have a choice. My parents couldn't watch over me so I had to be babysat by different people until I was almost 6. I remember going as far as dressing up like a girl I played with and playing other things she did. When I did stuff like that I felt different. It's like my mind was behaving the way a little girl would down to the thought processes and emotional differences. It wasn't until something deep in my mind made me feel a discomfort, like something that terrified you even though you didn't know why. At that moment it almost seemed like I started fearing what I did. Thing is, nobody told me what I should or shouldn't do at that point. I wasn't told what specific things boys or girls were supposed to do. I remember I had a crush on a girl my age but I didn't know much about gender roles. I didn't remember seeing my parents all that much either. My dad worked all day most days until I was almost a teenager.

Well I think that you are in the right motherfucker. You have to give the kid guidance without looking like you are trying to be a bigot because it isn't fun to grow up to be a faggot and Im pretty sure that any of them would agree. Three is too young for making those decisions and if the proper decisions aren't being made, ten is still too young. I've pretended sorrow with my boy that women have a much better shoe selection and It isn't fair. This helps guid him to what is expected but still gives him an out if he's a legit gay. You have to point a kid a way that they SHOUD go. That isn't always your way and isn't usually theirs.

Distinction: he didn't say "allow my kid to be trans" (not that forbidding that would be right either), but "I wouldn't allow them to dress up as a girl." Again, toddlers generally have no sense of gender identity, no sense of tradition, no sense of... anything, really. They're basically slightly cognitively superior pet dogs or cats whose main purpose is to serve as the family mascot and be cute. A 3 year old putting on a dress probably means nothing more than everything in the world being new to them and wanting to try out everything.

I don't think it can be avoided though user. I know someone that happens to be gay and I knew this dude since he was a toddler. Since he was that young he was a spoiled brat. Got whatever he wanted. It was a rare occasion if he was ever denied something. He was spoiled by just about every female member in his family. He was pretty emotional since then and as he aged he had these behavioral patterns you would witness in young girls. The way he spoke, his mannerisms, interests, etc. He didn't care about things guys would usually be into, he didn't really show a deep interest in anything really other than certain kinds of toys children enjoyed playing. I heard he tried to kiss a young kid when he was only 10? That was the first red flag I got. He wasn't like other young boys that played rough either, he was pretty emotional. Now he's nearing his adult stage and he's gay, I'm 90% sure he is because he dated dudes already.

OP i dressed up as a dog and drank soda out of a bowl once. kids are silly

Stop lying user, we all know that means you've been a transdog all your life

OPs problem isnt what the kid might want to dress up as. Did you not read it?

OPs problem is that he thinks his SO has some Jow Forums type predispositions about /lgbt/ stuff that would encourage confusion in the kid.

But either OP is bait, or OP didn't give us enough info about their SO, on if there was any context to this conversation, if this was brought up out of the blue or in the middle of a rant about Trump, or in response to talking about someone they know, or anything actually useful.

I know what you are saying and that may be what im calling "legit" but that stuff is rare. Im forty something. Gay is so much bigger now than it used to be. Some of that stuff can be avoided with gentle and progressively tougher guidance. My mom never met a gay person until she was like 35. I have met more than I can remember.

actually, a lot of little kids will like things from the "wrong" gender. the only reason it is wrong is paranoid nuts, like OP. but peer pressure eventually kicks in, and toys are popular with each gender for some other reasons. kids will sort themselves out.

and if they don't fit into the "right" gender, it is pretty likely because that is how they just are. you can't brainwash a person into being gay, or trans, or whatever. OP is freaking out and about to make a mistake. kids need love and support. punish you kid for being gay, and you don't get a straight kid. you get a fucked up gay kid.

or a dead kid, as statistics would have it...

Well that's exactly my reasoning, kids at 3 years old don't understand the concept of gender. It's really unlikely they would express an interest to dress as a girl unless there were already skirts at the house

>to dress up as a girl
Mate I've worn a dress and I'm about as straight as they come. Cloths are fucking cloths I mean look at the Scott's. If you had ever worn a dress you would realise just how well they breathe. In saying that I only wore it because I was going to a cross dressing themed party. But as a kid I used to put on my sisters shoes and cloths and strut around. When you are not shackled by the confides of society you can be as free as you wish. As a child I had no understanding of cross dressing it was just me doing stupid things as children do.
Being staunch against them doing anything remotely outside of their prescribed gender label is more likely to lead to gender confused kids as they were forced into a mould that they didn't choose.

>But either OP is bait, or OP didn't give us enough info about their SO, on if there was any context to this conversation

My gf is bisexual and hangs out exclusively with LGBT people. She considers herself an "activist" and champions anything that's not hetero normative. Of course her family situation is also a fucking mess with divorces out the wazoo here and there.

So yes, I do believe she has Jow Forums-tier dispositions towards pushing a boy child away from anything too "masculine"

>As a child I had no understanding of cross dressing it was just me doing stupid things as children do.

Why did you stop cross dressing?

That extreme isn't good either, no. People should just let kids be themselves, no matter where that falls on the masculinity/femininity spectrum. The vast, vast majority of people will end up in the 'normal' range for their gender regardless.

>Why did you stop cross dressing?
Because I found even better stupid shit to do, I really don't know. But it's not like I was doing it because I wanted to be a girl or liked tge cloths I was literally just doing stupid shit because why not.

>Because I found even better stupid shit to do, I really don't know

Come on. No parent involvement?

I would definitely end it. Sounds like an awful shitlib and they make awful mothers

well OP, children play dress up all the time but I think the hypothetical is actually about him dressing as a girl and going into public.
Also this is a hypothetical and you are thinking too far into the future. Things change and you might not even have a son, you might have a daughter and stop there. So I wouldnt be so quick to break up when a hypothetical is involved.

>how they just are
How you are. We are all a product of programming.

This is what my gf says. Everything is "heteronormative conditioning" inspired from Anglo christian patriarchy and that the world would be a better place if everyone was a genderfluid other person who doesn't identify with social norms

it sounds like you might already dislike the world and worldview she comes from way before any discussion about child rearing.

Its not weird for kids to want to mess with stuff of the wrong gender. I liked to clomp around in my mom's high heels. They just felt diffrent than my shoes. And one middle school halloween I dressed as a girl. Didnt think twice of it but I could tell my mom raised her eyebrows.

This, on the other hand, is bullshit.

>it sounds like you might already dislike the world and worldview she comes from way before any discussion about child rearing

Oh I do 100%, and her worldview impacts how she will raise a kid.

>Didnt think twice of it but I could tell my mom raised her eyebrows.

What if she didn't raise her eyebrows and instead encouraged you to keep experimenting? How do you know you weren't a woman all this time? Your mum should've been more open to letting you be who you really are.


This type of bullshit gaslighting is the EXACT type of shit my gf comes up with

Since you're questioning you're manhood so hard, you should just let her peg you and call it a day

>you'll still be a fag
>no chance of her getting pregnant
>the world won't have your chinlet spawn walking around
>we all win
>thank you

your welcome

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Your GF is brainwashed by the leftist delusion. I wouldn't remain in the long-term with her; if you're thinking of kids that is. If you just enjoy hey antics then sure, but don't try family shit. Goodluck trying to be an authorative father figure to children with her around

>huhu u must be gay if you don't want your son to be trans at age 7

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You american? Is it standard for you to have such retarded children?

its bedtime for americans lad
people on Jow Forums dont really know what kids are like

I'm American and kids are very susceptible to our pop culture fads.

Well, Im sure she'll be right in another couple hundred years. That stuff still isn't very tolerated as of now.

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Was a private teacher for 4 years, I have a pretty good idea of what children are like

Im just getting started motherfucker and I have a kid. But yeah, I really don't know what he is like.

Teaching ESL isn't a real job

Been reading around and don't think that it is addressed: If you get overly upset with faggot behavior, it can push a kid towards faggotism. You have to steer it but you can't jerk the wheel.

Music (piano and singing), mathematics and english, faggot, don't b jelly just cause ur a talentless sack of shit git

How do I do that while not getting subverted by a bleeding liberal mother?

passiveness, saying shit like you dont care either way because the child decides not her or you. Shit like that will throw her into a loop.

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But the child cannot decide anything. It's a fucking child. The role of the parents is to nurture, guide and bring down the hammer when necessary.

You can't let kids raise themselves.

Weak. Just like your entire family.

Sexuality isn't a choice, though.

Idk how it is with yours, but mine dropped a lot of that bs when it actually came down to it and your counter-influence should be sufficient to keep things in line. Different points of view are actually good for the little fuckers. But as long as you are actively steering, it won't matter if she lets kid take control sometimes.

The first one wasn't the real me but, yeah, it takes a little of everything, I guess.

I took a small bite out of my mom's lipstick because she put it on every morning when going to work and i thought it was just a part of her breakfast. And it was red so i expected something like strawberry.
Just relax, kids do all sorts of goofy stuff.

>Girlfriend is sexually deviant
>Want to procreate with her
>Don't want a sexually deviant child

Are you retarded?

the problem is not that your kid will play dress-up, the problem is that your kid will play dress-up and your brainwashed gf/future-wife will think he's a trans and put him on hormones after having you arrested for protesting.