I've waited 2 goddamn years to tell other well-read...

It's not defeatist at all, it's realist. I've accepted the fact the only way these political divides are going away is through one side violently removing the other from the country. There are only 2 alternatives at this point, they're in power and we end up enslaved or we rid our country of Communist Leftist filth. I hope it never gets to that point but I see no other way out. These are evil people hell bent on destroying America and our Constitution. They are quite literally enemies of our nation and sooner or later enough people are going to figure that out.

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you go girl.. preach!

You're telling me that people with left wing views and right wing views disagree with each other so intensely that they seek to eradicate each other? that doesn't seem congruent with my real-life experiences at all, to be honest with you. Right wingers usually seem to value personal responsibility to a fault and left wingers seem to value safety nets to a fault. Other than that I don't exactly agree there's a zero-sum game at hand in America. You might be looking at the situation in more dramatic terms than are needed.

>meme-magic is real
>sweden/scandinavia is 3rd world
>the holocaust was a hoax
>vaccines cause autism
>all school shootings are false flags
>michelle obama is a transvestite
>9/11 was an inside job and the government used nukes
>obama is a kenyan
>the world is controlled by lizard people
>the earth is flat
>the moonlanding was faked

t. alt-right, living in "reality"

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No one lives in reality user

Hey OP i don't have skin in the game ever since Trump came out of the zionist bitch closet. Why don't you point out the obvious collusion, Trump's admin with Israel. We can be allies in this war but the "left" are a bunch of zionist cock suckers just like the "right" with the exception of Imar.

>Heheh, it didn’t say he was innocent? Tough luck
Honk

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Trump has given major concessions to Isreal from a monetary and geopolitical standpoint. These are highly suspect because Isreal's use to our military's projection of power in that region seems to have been a trick by Jewish right-wingers like the PM.

That good enough for you my dude?

>meme-magic is real
it is tho, by repeating memes you change people's subjective reality so objective reality doesn't matter anymore
but most have a rude awakening later after subjective and objective reality start to realign

>sweden/scandinavia is 3rd world
just sweden
take care of the Muslim no-go zones you imbeciles, preferably with some of your military tech, it used to be pretty good

>the holocaust was a hoax
not quite, but at best (or worst, depending on how you look at it) about 450.000 died and mostly from hunger or typhus

the rest are mostly memes

>You're telling me that people with left wing views and right wing views disagree with each other so intensely that they seek to eradicate each other
The Left absolutely feels that way and you are naive if you think otherwise. And I'm not referring to Joe Blow your Dem neighbor, I'm talking about the leaders of the Progressive movement. They manipulate their Lefty sheep and disguise their true intentions. They are not good people. They're fucking evil and should all be killed.

the full report comes out in a week you cuck

if sweden is 3rd world then slovenia is 6th or maybe 7th world

Holy shit, who are you talking about? If you're advocating for these people to be put to death, I kind of want to know who to Google so I can read up on this insane stuff you're alluding to! Please help me out man, I keep up with politics but haven't the faintest clue what names you're about to drop.

Is this official? Link please dude.

>And as I've mentioned, we've all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.

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Literally dont care and didnt before
Cheers

Sorry your country is objectively a shithole bro

He's saying that they need a better gimmick than demographic inspired (read: identity politics) messaging. I actually agree with what he says. Also, the whole screenshot is important, not just the highlighted quote. What's insidious about this?

but all the other things are false?

>What's insidious about this?
Politicians conspiring to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry.

Are you fucking with us? He's talking about how it's a bad thing the citizens are no longer dumb and compliant.

wait you believe the official 9/11 story? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

>the left and right are the same
>this isn't being a radical centrist
>I just know better than everyone

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No, Michelle Obama is really a tranny. So is Barack, he's the one who delivered the children.

How old are you two? He's a career politician. Taking those words too literally or assuming this e-mail reflects some super cabal of fate changing Illuminati types is just childish. He's saying their strategy needs to change because of Trump's strategy. Inferring this much of such a dramatic worldview from a single e-mail is kind of cringey.

thank you for proving my point

Nothing is really Left vs Right, it's Globalist Uniparty vs Outsiders.

>a level-headed investigation with hundreds of pages of details on why the people's elected president did nothing suspect
It fucking better be.
I've been quiet, waiting for the shoe to drop with this not-exonerated bit...hope it doesn't.

It's not 1 sentence from 1 e-mail, it's the totality of all the information hilighted by that sentence.
>super cabal of fate changing Illuminati
And since you brought it up...

wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/14333

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It's just Republicans letting Democrats make themselves look like rabid dogs chasing a non-existent goose even more than they already have. A few weeks to rub it in. But they've made their point that Dems are blood-hungry. Now give us the full-report on how innocent Trump is so I can lob it at my leftist peers.

>meme-magic is real
Not sure about that, but I don't doubt it
>Sweden is a shithole
Not yet but it's well on its way to becoming one. There have been reports of your retarded country spending a lot more than what they actually have on hotel stays for rapefugees and their gibs.
>the holocaust was a hoax
Yes, you'd have to be a retard to think otherwise
>all school shootings are false flags
All recent school shootings are false flags. Columbine might actually be the only legit one
>Michelle Obama is a transvestite
There are no pictures of her pregnant, Joan Rivers coincidentally died a few days later after she claimed to have proof that Obama was a tranny and there's footage of a giant dick and balls hiding underneath her dress
>9/11 was an inside job
Yes, but with help from mossad
>the government used nukes
No, and nobody has ever claimed this
>Obama is a Kenyan
Indonesian actually. Where's his birth certificate?
The rest are /x/ tier shit and you have no evidence that they are right wing conspiracy theories. They could be leftists for all we know.

No, the left and right are objectively not the same level of evil. There are some neocon, globalist, no-principle faggots on the right, but when you break it down to first principles there is a good side and a bad side. One party is all about the false God democracy, and whatever the Dem party can get 51% of the country to vote on that increases their power, they are for. The second party is, at its core, about the bible and the constitution. The PARTIES may be made up of the same sorts of people, but the RIGHT and LEFT are very, very different. There is a good side and an evil side.

You are a stupid faggot.

Do you understand the only reason Dems want the report released is so they can cherry pick parts for 2020? They want the Mueller report to be taxpayer funded opposition research.

>Democrats make themselves look like rabid dogs chasing a non-existent goose
Like when they went after Kavanaugh? And what were the consequences for them doing that? Winning back the House? Stop trying to convince these people. They aren't really interested in right or wrong they are interested whatever answers will give them POWER

OP is a faggot.

Says the asshat who thinks most right-wing Americans have actually read the bible or the constitution.

I'm confused, so they're going to not care about facts regardless of the report's release... But I still shouldn't want to read the report I've been waiting 2 years to read? I don't care if they cherry pick, we'll cherry pick back. Just use the same tactics against them. Either way, the report doesn't connect Trump to the bullshit charges, so at the end of the day people worth a shit will know we're right and have details to prove it.

I'm placing my bets that he gets subpoenaed and when he appears before congress someone with a bad case of TDS and retardation, possible AOC, asks if he was paid off by the Russians.

>Please help me out man, I keep up with politics but haven't the faintest clue what names you're about to drop.

Fuck off faggot.

No seriously who the fuck are you referring to asshole

You say it like it's impossible. You know the majority of Americans are Christian, right? And the constitution is a tiny document that is taught in most high schools or earlier, particularly in red states. Even if zero right wingers read the bible or the constitution, that's still what the party is based on you fucking brainlet.

No seriously fuck off faggot, you're not fooling anyone in this thread at this point. Just abandon it and start a new one.

Basing a party on two documents you don't force people to actually read doesn't mean your party represents anything I have to respect. If the people don't read the bible or the constitution in full and understand what they say, they're just some follower dipshits that do what they are told by authority figures who may not have noble intentions.

>engaging with a Democrat shill as if she's operating in good faith
Come on bro.

Why won't you tell me the names you kike shill? Too (((afraid))) to out any of the people who sign your paycheck?

I go back to this You are thinking about things logically. That's not how leftist think. They already know there is no collusion. They already know the whole Russia thing is bullshit. Don't you understand that? They only keep pushing it because it helps them politically. All their stances are based on one thing and one thing only, POWER. You think they give a fuck about what happens to Pedro Wetback and his family crossing the southern border? Fuck No! They know illegals will translate to Dem votes. It's all about power but they use the compassion of the sheep to advance their agenda. Same shit with the electoral college. You think if Trump won popular vote they'd be trying to abolish the Electoral College? Fuck no, it's only because it benefits their quest for power. As soon as a Rep won the popular vote and Dem wins Electoral College they'll be calling for it to go back. It's really not hard to see.

>Oh shit my mask is slipping! I need to establish my anti-Semitic credibility fast or I'll be found out!
You're not fooling anyone.
Just let it go.

>Can you show me examples of politicians being pieces of shit who don't care about lying to the electorate?
>Sure, here's a private email from Podesta that says 'we need to keep the goyim stupid and obedient'
>Oh, well surely there's some other explanation
Just reset the VPN and start again schlomo

That's all fair and I agree political parties will do some wildly unethical shit to foster power. That all said (you sincerely have made your point and are in good company) it doesn't hurt the right to release the full report. It's a 400 page document that clears the president.

Trump cucked to globo-homo and they made the investigation go away. Billions to Israel, Golan Heights, and the whole thing just goes away. Good news is this will just divide America even more. Finally we can wreck this empire on the rocks and go our separate ways.

There are no people at the DNC that operate with good intentions. There are a handful of people at the GOP who operate with good intentions. That's the difference.
It's not for him, it's for lurkers.

You're wasting your time trying to reason with people with facts, no matter how many pages of them you have.
You might as well get used to the idea that liberals will ALWAYS believe in Mah Russia. It's a matter of faith with them. The report will have to have the names of innocent individuals redacted, so their media will assure them the crimes would be revealed if those redactions weren't there. You can count on it.
Don't try to reason with them. Ridicule them. Point out that they wasted three years of political energy on a hoax created by their own leaders. Point out all the times they confidently declared Mueller would arrest Don Jr. You don't need a bunch of facts to rub in their face because they're entirely driven by emotion. Go ahead and rub.

>right wing media conspiracy
You have to be a caved in retarded drooling moron to believe the left doesn’t control everything. Do left wingers get payment processors shut down? Their web domains confiscated?

>well read, politically savvy
>believes jewish russia hoax
pick one

Most of those are memes to cause a loss of confidence in the system. You have to be totally retarded not to see that. It’s a tactic similar to what the left did in the 1960’s. Same results.

This, this, this and fucking checked.

The probe wasnt a farce. Some of the president's underlings actually did commit crimes. So then it makes sense to investigate to see if the president was involved too. It turns out he wasn't (or cant be proven to have been), but that doesnt mean that it shouldnt have been looked into. Why would anyone oppose more transparency in government? Its not like they made up evidence and tried to railroad him; all they did was take a look at what was there.

One guy committed tax fraud, the rest were bullshit process crimes. Ultimately the entire investigation was founded upon the bullshit dossier which was oppo research funded by Clinton. It never should have begun in the first place.

>Some of the president's underlings actually did commit crimes
Oh yeah, like who? You are either a troll or really ignorant to the facts of Crossfire Hurricane. How about you tell us what was the evidence that started the whole investigation? What was it that made the FBI say we need to open an investigation on the Republican candidate for President’s campaign?

are you trolling? I can see how you might think this if you are young but it's obvious they were setting up a perjury trap. They did the same thing to Clinton. Obama was a smart guy and didn't even fuck with the birth certificate stuff because it would have taken him down the same road.

This was nothing but an intimidation campaign carried out due to spite felt by the Bush's and the Clinton's. Anyone without the neverending slush fund would have been in jail by now just for daring to challenge them in an election. That's a scary thought.

Your post gave people cancer. I hope you are happy, faggot.

>its not like they made up evidence
That's were you are wrong, kiddo.

What would you think if a Democratic president had advisors in contact with say, Cuban or Venezuelan businessmen, recieved help in the election because of Cuban hackers, and then as soon as he takes office he starts overruling longstanding policies from all of his own domestic services in order to take favorable actions towards that country? You wouldnt want a probe? It wouldnt seem suspicious to you?

Stop talking. You're embarrassing youself, retard.

>cant address what I said so calls me names
Are you 18? Does your mom know you use Jow Forums?

fuk off moron. Trump put more sanctions on Russia than Obama. All your bitter empty soul has is lies.

So, you didn't answer my question.
>What was it that made the FBI say we need to open an investigation on the Republican candidate for President’s campaign?

>soon as he takes office he starts overruling longstanding policies from all of his own domestic services in order to take favorable actions towards that country
You have been effectively brainwashed by the MSM. Its not your fault, it's happened to million of other people as well. Trump has been the most hostile President towards Russia since Reagan and that's a fact. Pic related is def favorable actions towards Russia. But you probably never heard about this because it didn't fit the MSM/Dem agenda

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>What would you think if a Democratic president had advisors in contact with say, Cuban or Venezuelan businessmen
Every president has advisors and diplomats talking to the leaders in tons of countries. I would assume Trump has people in Venezuela and Cuba, and the next Democrat will too.
>Recieved help in the election because of Cuban hackers
Terrible hypothetical because Cuba does not have the ability to do that, but more to the point: Russia did not affect our election even if they attempted to. Some Facebook ads does not amount to changing an election. DNC emails were leaked, not hacked.
>and then as soon as he takes office he starts overruling longstanding policies from all of his own domestic services in order to take favorable actions towards that country?
Trump has objectively been harder on Russia than any president since Reagan. He talks all chummy but with military action and sanctions he has been incredibly tough. You just made some shit up and hoped I wouldn't notice.
>You wouldnt want a probe?
Not if the investigation was founded upon fake oppo research funded by his political opponents, which we know for a fact it was.
>It wouldnt seem suspicious to you?
Nothing you put in this post, that actually happened, is particularly suspicious.

>can't
That's were you are wrong, bucko.

So you're telling me that if the DNC and Hillary Clinton ended up in much the same situation that Trump's campaign was, you'd be totally fine with no investigation and everything is all good to go?

>400 pages of official, investigation related material would give me ammo against commie fucks until the end of my days.

Mighty odd that Barr and Trump don’t want it released, then.

No investigation for that, if she were literally in the exact same place? Sure. She has tons of other shit that she should be investigated and prosecuted for.

>the same situation that Trump's campaign was
What's the situation? I'll ask again, what triggered the investigation? What lead them to start investigating his campaign?

>I'll ask again, what triggered the investigation?

The Steele Dossier, the e-mail shenanigans, and suspected collusion with Russia such as when Trump Jr. met a lawyer.

Maybe I am not as impartial as you, but if Hillary had won and we saw RNC e-mails getting "leaked" and Huma meeting with Cubans to get Trump dirt I would want an investigation as well.

Barr has already said he'll release the whole report with private information redacted in a few weeks.
They don't want lawsuits because they included how Mary Watson was busy fucking Chad the day of the Trump tower Russia meeting which is why she wasn't there and can't comment

FBI began its investigation into potential Russian interference in the election after an Australian offical told them that a Trump campaign member George Papadopoulos had mentioned to them that the Russians had info about Hillary. The reason that the Special Counsel investigation by Mueller began was due to Trump firing FBI Director Comey, and was tasked to determine whether there was obstruction of justice.

The sanctions against Russia are mostly due to pressure by congessional Republicans btw, not because Trump wants them.

I don't even know where to begin. The MSM has done a great job of misinforming you.

Generally the incoming administration would use existing diplomatic channels and not have his buddies and family members secretly meeting businesspeople and then misleading Congress about fact they had met.

The email server was hacked by Russians who then gave the emails to Wikileaks, who leaked then in coordination with Trump advisor Roger Stone.

Trump has repeatedly tried to ease sanctions against Russia and been rebuked by Congressional Republicans

i noticed you left out the fact that papadopulus was set up, fed the information by the fbi and the ambassador was working off a script given to him by the fbi. to top it off he was abroad because the fbi paid him to give a speech. nothing unusuall here at all right? scumbag.

Imagine the precident set if they allowed grand jury testimony and unredacted National Security questions were released on a case that absolved the President and was without merit. Every President and high ranking official would in the Party opposite the House would be fair game. Think of a Foreign Power's testimony given under seal, when that foregn entity would then have to suffer the wrath of a President if they spoke out of turn. Fucki9ng disaster.

all you have is lies to cling to.
bitter clinger much?

>George Papadopoulos had mentioned to them that the Russians had info about Hillary
Ok, now this is the official story. So let me ask you, if it's Papadopoulos who triggered the opening of an investigation, why was the first time he was interviewed but the FBI, at least 6 months after the investigation began? What kind of sense does that make?

And the obstruction case is utter buffoonery and has been since Day 1. First off there is no underlying crime to obstruct. Secondly, and most importantly, Comey even testified the President has the power to fire his FBI director at any time for any reason, or for no reason at all. The Left continues to try to criminalize the powers of the Executive branch simply because its Trump. We see it over and over again. Norms for every other politician suddenly become controversial when Trump does it. And NPC refuse to think critically, instead nodding their heads in approval at everything the MSM parrots. It's a sad state that the powers of propaganda and manipulation are being used by our intelligence community on our own people.

After 2 goddamn years of hearing the US government and media push for war with Russia, calling Trump a Russian agent, and Trump supporters Russian bots on social media they better release the entire goddamn report.

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move to cuba , scumbag , if thats the style of law you like

>The email server was hacked by Russians
There is no evidence of this. NONE. The server has never been given to the FBI. This is a lie you've been told so many times you believe it to be true.

>living in "reality"
I'm leaving that reality, too boring not enough lizard people, no pod people WTF man are you even trying?

Release the entire goddamn report. After 2 goddamn years of non-stop propaganda from the US government and media they either release the entire report or there needs to be serious and permanent consequences. I could not care less about Trump or his trash administration. He will not be doing anything between now and 2020 anyways. Release the entire goddamn report.

>There is no evidence of this. NONE
Russians could have hacked the server, they're not stupid and apparently this server was some kind of IC bus stop so I'm sure everyone with an IC saw it

>release the entire goddamn report.
they don't want to because these dumb fucks were talking about assassinating POTUS on government phones

I do not care. Release the entire report.