I posted Perry's remarks on the Japanese once, and many Jow Forumstards replied that public "indecency" isn't actually a sign of low culture or depravity, and it's in fact more traditional.
>Public nudity was quite normal and commonplace in Japan until the Meiji Restoration. >Public toplessness was generally considered acceptable as well until the post-WWII US occupation when General Douglas MacArthur passed edicts requiring women to cover their breasts. Commodore Perry: >Modesty, judging from what we see, might be said to be unknown, for the women make no attempt to hide the bosom, and every step shows the leg above the knee; while men generally go with the merest bit of rag, and that not always carefully put on. Naked men and women have both been seen in the streets, and uniformly resort to the same bath house, regardless of all decency. Lewd motions, pictures and talk seem to be the common expression of the viler acts and thoughts of the people, and this to such a degree as to disgust everybody.
So does this point to the Japanese being inferior, or Anglos being gay and irrationally prudish?
>A British observer in the early 1860s recorded an interesting encounter in his diary. He and some other foreigners were traveling though the streets of Edo (Tōkyō). As they neared a public bath, someone inside the bath noticed that exotic foreigners were in the vicinity and let the other bathers know. They all came running out of the bath house, completely naked of course, to gawk at the British travelers, who no doubt did some gawking of their own. >According to the diary: “Men and women were all bathing together. They all came running out of the bath hut to gawk at us as we passed by. Not a single one made any attempt to cover up. They were like Adam and Eve before the fall, appearing to us just as they had been born”
>Another British traveler made the following observation regarding bathers at a *natural hot spring* (onsen): “Two short, attractive women had come out of the hot spring. The two women appeared without wearing so much as a thread and proceeded to dry themselves in the sun. Then, within plain view of the town’s residents who were walking across the bridge, they put on their clothes."
Matthew Perry’s interpreter, Rev. S. Wells Williams, while generally a sympathetic observer of Japanese customs, nevertheless declared Japan the “most lewd” of “all the heathen nations” he had ever described.
The whole Europeans travelling blind and thinking everyone was savages "history" is made up. They knew where they were going and who was there. They also knew why they were killing almost everyone they came across.
Brody Martinez
>anglos afraid of nudity so they pathologize it nothing new under the sun, no wonder your puritan views on sexuality are so twisted
Noah Ramirez
If you explored Japan in the early days, there was a good chance you would see so-called "lewd" behavior in public but considered acceptable. I posted literal quotes user.
in athletics, normal. like running/swimming. for running, i would only recommend shoes. the rest is only a burden. for swimming, fuck it, just swim nude.
Fundoshis are hot as fuck, almost as hot as diapers.
Tyler Cook
Nudity used to be quite a normal thing. It is just recently/after WW2 that we got uncomfortable with the idea thanks to American puritanism. youtu.be/pFmxMHwKCOc?t=1848 If you go to 30:49 in this WW1 documentary you can see that men used to bath naked.
Ethan Moore
Destroyed
Julian Long
You're welcome.
Ethan Hall
>you can't quote fiction Huh, I didn't know that.
Jonathan Green
" Lewd motions, pictures and talk seem to be the common expression of the viler acts and thoughts of the people, and this to such a degree as to disgust everybody." - Commodore Perry
Do you think this is a fake quote?
Ryder Walker
Basically, if a man's thoughts are diverted to sex anywhere outside his home, his culture is degenerate.
Easton Diaz
and it was seen as one of the darkest points throughout the history of their country everyone was a depressed underachiever. a mirror image of today's United States of clown world
Ethan Reed
1. Japanese men are the most feminine of men. That's why there are so many Japanese traps. 2. Prior to exposure to white Western civilization, the Japanese were rice niggers. 3. To give them credit, they cleaned up fast and well, with only a little bit of nuclear correction. 4. Japanese women can be pretty hot, but a Japanese 10 is only worth about an white woman 8.
Lucas Howard
I am so thankful that I live under global superpower that forces me to be nice to niggers and Jews while it is destroying my culture replacing it with modernism. What exactly is the problem with public nudity if it has no sexual context?
Nathaniel Clark
Prude
Nicholas Price
Kimonos are very impractical to wear on a regular basis because they require a second person to tie and they restrict movement, so most women would simply leave them untied and open.
>with only a little bit of nuclear correction. If only that could work in all other cases.
Jeremiah Ortiz
Gibs me sauce on that
Dominic Evans
A man calling someone a prude is a sure sign he's a faggot or pedophile. (There are no girls on the internet, but only a skank would do it.)
Adrian Morgan
Even in the early 1900's, women who worked did so with minimal clothing because non-restrictive upper body clothing didn't exist (other than Western clothes).
I'd very much smash X on nips just going around naked all the time. Shit gets really cold and really warm. And just like many other peoples in hotter climes fabric is the first thing dumped in the pursuit of staying somewhat cool. then again what is considered degenerate is a culture bound thing. Romans only found the receiving fag degenerate ect.
Nathaniel Baker
Angloscum is the inferior one. With is sub concious urges to mate with foreigners and with self shaming slavish cristcuck mentality on the other hand.
Blake Gray
Cunts light be required to be nude. Clothes are for people, cunts are not people. Most a cunt ought wear is a collar. >that whole description That's describing basically anywhere for most of history. Prudes should stop projecting.
Dylan Bell
Degenerate, it arouses the passions (mainly lust but the others too).
Jose Gutierrez
So what about liberal women freeing the nipple, is that not degeneracy?
>TAN LINES AHHHHHHHHH Why does it arouse me so much? It's some sort of witch craft
Christian Davis
That insult lost its power when the “prudes” were proven right and all sorts of degeneracy was unleashed post the Sexual Revolution. In our time of genderqueer dragqueen polygamists some old fashioned modesty is just what we need
Connor Roberts
I'm actually Arab/Iberian i look like a Syrian (about 70% Iberian, 30% Syrian from the Reconquista period). I'm not a Muslim, i'm a Christian.
But anyway, i have a point and you know it kid. Can't have young whores running around naked in a civilized society, grow up. I'm not saying put a fucking trash bag over their head like my cousins do in the old countries but you know, you need public (in)decency laws and that sorta shit, you know, like your Christian ancestors used to have back in the 50's.
Alexander Taylor
ITT: Pedos getting off on insects “woman” with 13 yr old body’s. Most likely white.
>Amerimutts can't see a naked body without thinking sexual thoughts immediately like an ape.
Nathan Miller
how did the japs control their urges to rape all these qts?
Jaxon Price
By not being niggers.
Lincoln Collins
Guys, it's really fucking hot and humid in Japan during the Summer months. That's the whole reason why they go skimpy in the warm months. It's not a deficiency of the culture.
Michael Diaz
they didn't since sex was normal because they didn't give two shits about some jew on a stick
Jeremiah Evans
>a culture bound thing learn to read burger our culture mandates you to be covered up in at least two layers at all times except when water or sleeping is involved.
Ethan Taylor
they didn't but the women didn't mind because they were all hot to trot back then
Caleb Lopez
Nowadays women will at least wear fundoshi, but in the past fundoshi was male only and women would actually expose their genitals.
It's not even about sexuality, humans are just gross fucking things that should be as covered as possible at all times.
David Garcia
The whole point of the nudist movement is to change the culture.
Jace Robinson
It's degenerate because they're attacking the morality. Whites mostly live in places where covering up would probably help you be more comfortable.
The Japs, South Asians, Egyptians, Africans all live in places where clothing would be ruined by sweat or would make you uncomfortable when its warm.
Jack Lewis
Wait, are you saying it's moral or immoral based on the climate?
What if I live in Arizona?
Colton Perry
Fuck you, you ruined everything and now you pay by being the dog of israel.
Evan Wilson
It's funny how white hate forced post modernism but at the same invade nonwhite countries and demand them turn abandon their way of life.
John Rivera
yes and breaking away from the societal norm is degenerate damn those common core kids are growing up fast need a step by step guide to this bit of high logic?
Adrian Stewart
t. homo
Samuel Phillips
It's really hot and humid in the American South too. We used to wear breeches and coats and shit, because we weren't savages.
Hunter Torres
Your concept of civility means nothing. It's based on how your ruler thinks you should act.
Robert Myers
But the societal norm was originally nudity. Clothes didn't always exist user.
Tyler Barnes
Holy fuck that fat bitch on the right is so hot, I'd love to have fattened her up, have her as a fat housewife breeding sow.
If your culture and race evolved somewhere cold, then purposefully and knowingly trying to change the culture to be less-clothed because you're partial to foreign morality or because you got fooled by the (((Sexual Revolution))) is bad.
I mentioned race because whites would get nasty burns and cancer if you went around naked in fucking Arizona. The Indians are brown for a reason.
Like I mentioned, the base culture evolved in Europe. I know that even the slaves wore breeches and a shirt on the hottest days. I'm saying that people trying to change the clothed culture to become unclothed is not because of practicality, but because they've been Jewed.
I can't have your hot daugther/sister/cousin/mother/etc parading herself before me when i'm trying to figure out the meaning of it all, kid. It's distracting.
This is a "working area", you get that honey? put some underwear on at least, for fuck sake.
To be honest if the British hadnt gone down the route of insane puritanism then I imagine they would be pretty OK with nudity. I think being an isolated island helps
Lincoln Sanders
I think you're probably right user. But does that mean a "free the nipple" nudist movement in Japan would be okay, because they were walking around nude just 120 years ago?
Jason Morales
I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD ESKIMO PUSSY IS MIGTHY COLD
Andrew Myers
Just wear some fucking clothes, Jesus.
Cooper Lopez
Oh, really? what about the rape of Nanking or is that just another Holohoax type situation?