What went right?

Sargon was always /ourguy/ unironically. He took the fall in debates against the altright to give them a platform and spread the ideas they had to share. I'm completely convinced of this at this point.

Because everyone else there was an autistic sperg so he just won by default

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>Destiny fags seething

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>two "gamers" moderate (they are clueless on what to do)
>Sargon is Sargon, being le rational skeptic centrist
>Jewish-Afro-Latino, Nick "the knife" Fuentes gets hard in the paint white nationalism
>Hasan is a literal unironic Marxist, and all his points are antifa
>Destiny is a neoliberal shill who reads wikipedia opening sentences, and thinks he's an intellectual
>they argue forever
>basically just screeching, nothing constructive
>Hasan gets beyond triggered, because he can't argue against race/IQ and immigration.
>"WHY ARE YOU PLATFORMING A NAZI" x150
>Nick goes back into the muff
>Sargon and Destiny get increasingly detached, as both somehow seem to be the reasonable ones, stuck between two major ideologues
>nothing is accomplished
>"""debate ends"""
>Pretty obvious "team right" won
>Hasan spends 2 hours with twitch chat afterwards cope posting
>Nick shitposts on twitter
>Sargon has a "victory" video on youtube
>Destiny reads more wikipedia articles, and comes up with "iron-clad rebuttals"after the debate is already finished.

Congratulations, I just saved you around 7 hours of material.

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I normally hate him but I actually really enjoyed him tonight. I think that Spencer debate woke him up.

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>Jow Forums loves Sargon again
What a day

yeah, this is an American problem. Sargon's accent is actually extremely working class, and distinctly NOT pretentious.

>>believes in forming a collective of individualists
lost

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the single mother rate for Black Male White Female is 85%.

Hey, don't forget that Nick brought good topics for the normie crowd to learn, AIPAC and James Watson

>The look on that dudes face
OOGA BOOGA

Do you think he purposely used a picture of a latina instead of an actual white woman?

Kek, I had completely forgotten he was going to start an individualist revolution of collectivized individualists.

See, this is why free speech is important, because if he weren't resoundingly mocked for that retarded idea, he would still be pursuing it instead of helping Nick btfo desTINY and hasan in a debate.

pretty bummed sargoy didn't wear a suit tonight.

sadly the opposition was such SHIT that I had to root for him, but Nicker killed it out there.

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>fuck me. fuck everything.
why are they so invested?

he lost a debate, so what? there are millions of people out there who would beat destiny in a debate

It's worth watching imo. They all had their moments and nobody really dominated entirely. It was interesting to see Destiny in a situation where he lacks control. He couldn't run his autismo algorithm and it showed.

If you think the "nazis" on this site are collectivists, you should see the lefties. It's absolute insanity on their side.

Actual funny content from lefties
That man looks like a nice negro. I bet his family is conservative.

>Nick and Sargon were smug
>as opposed to Destiny and Hasan
HONK HONK

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The lack of self awareness really drives it home.
"They're going fake laughs to hide their fury"

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>It is so frustrating that my political opposition gets to talk, and I can't interrupt them.

Can we nuke reddit from orbit. Is that possible?

Not news, not politics, take your fucking gay wad, poo pushing, university debate club somewhere where someone cares and stop tugging each other off on here..
Faggots!

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I like how they think we care about karma on reddit kek

Everything for him in that debate, Hassan was in way over his head, and desTINY was being retarded. Nickgur, and Sargoy redpilled thousands, and redpilled Asmongold, and Trainwrecks even further.

And, from my experience, it requires so much fucking effort and patience and nuance to explain it to these dipshits. And most of them have been programmed to be hostile and dismissive to anything that contradicts their beliefs.

The alt-right has been very successful in convincing gamers of the invalidity of social sciences, which is ironic because race realism is necessarily its own deranged version of social science.

Relatively recently, I had some dipshit tell me that social sciences are all bunk--they aren't "real" science. So, I retorted, that I wasn't surprised they thought that, since right wingers tend to be less intelligent, on average, than left wingers. And they replied with a bunch of psychology studies...

Predictably, none of their studies reinforced their arguments, but more importantly, they were citing social sciences.

I legitimately think that sociology, as well as some other things like philosophy and critical thinking, needs to be taught in jr/sr high school. It should be impossible to avoid the 100 level stuff. Yet it's extremely important yet easy to avoid. It's ridiculous.

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Yeah Nick went all out. He came off a bit too edgy (Nick "fuck your optics" Fuentes) but he wasn't afraid to talk about real topics. He looked kinda retarded when said he didn't care about empirical data in regards to the differences between men and women, but he's right. You don't need data to know that, only deluded leftists can't see it.

>Can we nuke reddit from orbit. Is that possible?
Where would i farm my salt and cringe from?

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>Broadcasting literal nazi propaganda for an audience of 25k incels
>Oy vey why can't we ideologically conquer twitch uncontested
>It's not enough that pretty much any non-PC discussion is bannable if you're not a big streamer

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Nick has this anti intellectualism / anti science shit that makes him look stunted

This, they take hive mind to levels I didn't even know were possible. Fuentes said in his post debate stream that these are the types of people who would've been the most ardent Nazi supporters during the third Reich, and I have to agree. There isn't a single original thought in their head, much less the willingness to deviate from the dominant ideological force of whatever epoch they're in.

They downvote instinctually, oversocialized cunts. They're wired to shame and show disapproval.

I hope they start going after big streamers. More people for our side.

Link to the debate

Nobody EVER goes from being right-wing to left-wing.

Expect lots of people with an investment in the left to call Destiny and Hasan traitors, because they facilitated the exposure of their mindless sheep followers to an alternate view.

A person in this culture can live their entire life from cradle-to-grave without being exposed even once to right-wing ideology.

The plebbitor mindset really is fascinating. To read these posts that are so shitter shattered at not being able to deplatform an argument they can't beat is something else.

Do they not realize that getting so booty bothered about "platforming nazis" shows that they aren't confident in the strength of their own argument? Especially doing itafter the debate, it makes them look like sore losers who want to censor the person who just made them look foolish. There were no complaints about platforming nazis when they thought it was gonna be a slam dunk win for Destiny and Hasan.

Reddit is so fucked lol. Interestingly tho, if you look at trainwrecks twitter, his followers are much more aware. Where his twitter is completely bluepilled fags calling Sargon and Nick nazis

>That man looks like a nice negro. I bet his family is conservative
Kill yourself. Racemixers aren't nice, no matter race, but mentally ill. I guess black race mixers are slightly less mentally ill because at least their children will be more intelligent.

There's a lot of mental dullness on the right that stems from too much circle jerking. We need to call each other our more, make sure the group is fit.

>Leftist fags trying to get train banned again
First alinity now this. When will they learn?

To be fair, the same could be said for me. I came to Jow Forums as a leftist after the Sargon-Spencer debate. I am now a radical ethno-libertarian who thinks we need to destroy globalism and multi-nationalism along with those who have pushed it on our society. The plus side to this is i have hope for even the most rabid leftist to see the light.

Shit dude, I can't wait until you get white genocided

I have no twitter, hows the meme poll going?

Let's dispel with this fiction once and for all that Nick Fuentes doesn't know what he's doing, he knows exactly what he's doing.

They're just mad that Nick lied and said he believed in the holocaust and their big gotcha derailment of the argument failed.

Holding steady at 55% Team Right to 45% Team Left.

We've already won son. We've already won.

>Nobody EVER goes from being right-wing to left-wing.
wasn't there some youtube girl who did?

I heard chris ray gun did but I never watched him

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I didn't think he came off too edgy nor did I think he came off stupid when he said he doesn't need empirical data for every single thing. He could have cited that study where they found that untrained males were more accurate shots than trained females for example. It's blatantly obvious that having a 100% male army will perform better than a 70/30 male to female ratio. The fact that they would deny that reality so vigorously just shows that it is impossible to live with these people in one country, the problem is that they would probably be against seperation

I was posting on trainwrecks twitter cause of the poll, got a gazillion responses but twitter is such a trainwreck I barely know how to use it.

>To be fair, the same could be said for me. I came to Jow Forums as a leftist after the Sargon-Spencer debate.
This right here. People seem to believe that after they themselves have been redpilled, no one else for the rest of time will be redpilled, they were the last one. There is always a utility for "gateway redpills" if you will. A dozen years of public school and media conditioning has to be broken down one layer at a time, you can't do it all once or people shut down and overdose on bluepill.

Perhaps I've been reading Jow Forums too long but I didn't think he was overly edgy, rather reasonable on his Watson point in particular. Either way, it won't matter when normal people go to read the comments and see all of destinys fans dismissing every reasonable thing he said as "nazi talking points" and demanding future deplatforming of these view points. Instead they'll see his fan-base for what they are, larping revolutionaries, fags and trannys that hold political dialogue in these online spheres hostage. Even Sargoy came off looking good, which is rare for him in these debates. It's a win no matter how you look at it.

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How far left were you and what made you come around? Was it the actual debate?

>a lot of people haven't been exposed to ideas we don't like
>people will start believing those ideas
>we won the debate

Fuentes made a great point about how people like Coulter, Carlson, and Pat Buchanan aren't calling for violence but that they legitimate concerns about 60 million immigrants in 50 years. That people like Hasan are wrong when they think the only grievances people should have are material. People have a sense that they've lost something. Destiny and Hasan cannot understand this even if they could be sensitive to similar narratives involving minorities.

It's tragic when you think about it. There are legitimate grievances but if you air them you're a heretic. It enrages me how dense people can be.

I'm halfway through this now and I'm disappointing no one pointed out to goat fucker that he treats Capitalists the same way he portrays Nick's thinking of Jews. Destiny and Halal had this hard on for thinking all CEO's are some 1920's pigs in suits twirling their tails and puffing on cigars made from working class people's last shirts.

Twitter in general is more redpilled than we realize. The normies are waking up.

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>it's a win no matter how you look at it.
Destiny's subreddit agrees

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Trust me I know, as someone who was "bluepilled" well after Trump was in office (I know the campaign did it for a lot of people) I understand some will come around. However others legitimately are hopeless and will bend reality to whatever they have to in order to fit with their ideology.

>We won the debate so hard we're fucking terrified at the prospect of 25k people hearing the other side's arguments
So transparent lmao

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>wah wah wah
No use crying over spilt milk
Have a sense of humor you niggerbrain

Now if only Twitter would crack down on bots that are programmed to instantly "like" certain accounts tweets and report bots that are used specifically to get people suspended for triggering fags too hard.
Legit couldn't stand that part of the site, some nobody could command 300 people to like his tweets and report bot you the instant you said "retard" but is a fucking ghost that has 0 clout anywhere

lol I figured I was just talking to other pol faggots, least the half agreeing with me

>one good thing about this is that it will show destiny that you cant reason with right wingers. they refuse all logic
holy kek

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>heretic
Great choice of words. I am nearing 100% sure that if and hopefully when the multiculturalism experiment meets its bitter end, this epoch will be looked at through a lens that is similar to how we view the Salem Witch Trials.

They get there eventually

But I'm not crying about the picture, I'm saying that the black person in the picture isn't a nice person like you claimed. And how you can claim a racemixer is CONSERVATIVE show how retarded you are.

I loves his response, "why would anyone lie about something like that?" After the stream Destiny played a clip of Nick using a cookie analogy for the cremation narrative, 10k people watching

People call celebrities like Tim Pool and Scott Adams nazis all the time. I don't know what happened to reddit because there was a time I considered it a place that attracted smart people. There are still nice subs and nice fellas lurking in different subs but I fel the generality of that website has overwhelmingly a subversive feel to it I suppose because of the circlejerk that end up in the reddit point system tht accelerate it. Look at r/politics and The_Mueller to see how delusional this place has gotten.

They do later on actually

>muh optics

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On this Night Nicker has knifed the Piker
I choose a Hymm from of our King to celebrate the dates of 4/4/2019-4/5/2019
youtube.com/watch?v=5lrqtbrI2xI

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>right-wingers refuse all logic

*pulls out FBI and Euro govt. crime stat charts*

Just check out Reddit or destiny or trainwreck. It will show you how stupid these people really are

Agreed, it's a shit site, but it's not as bad as most think

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Ex communist here

Flipped on the question on the nation, family, and morality

Still kinda socialistic tho

Any conservative that gains any decent sized number of followers on Twitter gets noticed and then targeted by the left wing report bots. I've sometimes wondered if the solution isn't just to make tons of satirical left wing accounts that are so ridiculous and offensive that normies get redpilled trying to run away from it.

Nazis were Nordic Welfarist, you could say. More than half of European DemSoc parties call themselves "socialist", and lefties let it slide because they also suck nigger dick.

The idea of a party being pro-worker and anti-globalism/immigration causes them to malfunction.

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I had a few beers during the debate. It was fun to listen to in the background while I worked on other stuff. I would enjoy something like this in the future.

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I personally believe a society of only white people can make almost any political system work

there is a pretty funny pol-lite group on twitter, trick is finding them. much as I love Jow Forums, we're preaching to the choir a lot which doesn't always help

The guy in that screencap is a dudebrah normie chad not a Jow Forums neckbeard. A lot of times I will see shit on twitter, youtube comments etc that I could swear was /ourguys/ posting, but after checking their accounts turned out to be normies. It makes sense, eventually the ideas /ourguys/ post will spread to not /ourguys/.

I was a straight hardcore marxist without having read any Marx or communist theory. What made me come around was Spencer. He was so mild mannered, pragmatic, and logical in his arguments. I couldn't help but agree with the majority of his statements about white civilization, although i still believe individual whites can be some of the shittiest people on the planet and that just being white doesn't actually have any inherent value. There is no disputing that white societies are the greatest that have ever existed on this planet and i realized that there was a genetic link to it.
>People seem to believe that after they themselves have been redpilled, no one else for the rest of time will be redpilled, they were the last one.
This is what the right needs to learn. Just dismissing your opponent isn't enough, you have to actually prove them wrong on their on playing field, even if what you are saying isn't your actual beliefs. A lot of people on this board could learn a lot from Sargon and Fuentes.

Thats exactly the idea. Homogeneity permits boundless opportunities for cooperation and common ownership, and lessens the need for the state

>extremely working class.

lol no it isn't.

I was never into reddit, but I got the impression in the early days it was a bit of a subculture, which is why it became popular. Then, inevitably, the left moved in and forced "mainstream" cultural ideals, jihaded against the subculture, and banished everything that wasn't SJW. Not the first site to fall that way.