How do I break away from the mentality that sex is something only men want when my life experience confirms it?

How do I break away from the mentality that sex is something only men want when my life experience confirms it?

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I enjoy sex and not afraid to ask for it. I also realized society shaming women away from it is a crime, women should know their bodies and know what they like and what they want and think of sex as an act you share with someone.

If you're a woman you're probably fighting this mentality. If you're a man you're either conditioned by porn not matching real life experiences with womens libido or kinks or was told that women give you sex as an exchange for love and not because they actually want to do it.

I'm a man, and it's the latter for me. Both gfs I've had used sex as a bargaining chip and most of my friends complain about not getting as much sex as they want in their relationships.

From my perspective it feels like I give a girl my time and love and in exchange I get sex, but only as a favour or reward.

Sounds like you dated shitty girls.

You might put too much emotional expectations into sex. Try thinking of sex as less of a BIG THING and more of something that every living being does. Of course dont throw out your emotions but try to keep them in check with your next partner.
It's hard to keep an open mind after getting shafted, I know, but try to think of it as a stepping stone that you have to take rather than the next big step to something bigger.

>gf is down whenever i want it
>remember earlier gfs tried to use it as blackmail

in retrospect i should have ignored the noes, no it wouldnt be rape, because if she really doesnt want to have sex, she can punch me or scream no at my face or just make the whole ordeal unpleasant
instead i listened, i was a good bo, and i was afraid to initate it in fear of no
frustration ensued and i wasnt a good company, and they all left

bitches love sex, well, if you arent just a placeholder bf or if you are really shitty at it
its a basic human need, like eating

rubbish advice, sexless men cheat, get angry easily
its a fucking big thing, its a huge thing, ppl kill over getting sex
its like saying, ohno you dont need money, just think it away
yea you can probably live pennyless, but thats not living

>hould have ignored the noes, no it wouldnt be rape, because
Dangerous game user. Any substance involved at all and you're fucked. Had one beer? She's "drunk" Rape. That's all it takes bro.

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Watch some media targeted at females and observe how they behave when attracted to men

wait what? I am not trying to upset anyone here but on your point here is that those men are the ones that grabs peoples attention, you never look at the ones who can keep control of themselves and be good guys. Good guy doesnt receive a lot of attention because he isnt doing anything note worthy other than following the rules.

Does it even matter? They'll never make a move anyway. You might as well assume every girl is interested

you tell me your gf havent said ever that she dreamed about you raping her or telling you to rape her?
theres a huge difference between rape and rape
im not saying you should get drunk then slap her and rape her
im saying when i woke up with an erection i fucked her eventhough she said n-no initially, but then enjoyed it very much and was lovey dovey whole day

maybe you aint that good in the bed and she doesnt enjoy it, idk

didn't take long for this to turn into a rape thread. fucking weirdos.

threads over.
take this advice and go

I tried to help. I didnt say anything about rape....

You are implying that because of your experience men only want sex
Maybe your experiences are right maybe not
You can never know

Sex has become way cheaper and more accessible
The quantity increased therefore increasing the lust that comes thi
However the quality in the name of love or intimicy has decreased
You lack of love or intimicy in sex would be my best explanation
Search for initmicy, affection and love first
Lust with the strength of herion will follow

In my experience, women want sex a lot more than I do.
It has never been easier to be single than it is today. That doesn't mean many women are single. Clearly they want sex all time, just like the male meme.

Let me say this roasties. Be it not for your vaginas men wouldnt even spoke to you. You can be so fucking glad to be born in this day and age and just sign up to fuck site and youll get bunch of fuck boys ready to travel 10 000s of miles just to fuck your ass.

Fuck you and if you read this you have nothing to offer to men other than vaginas.

No. Absolutely not. If they don’t wanna have sex, don’t have sex with them. What’s the confusion there?

Guess you're seeing the wrong girls. My wife can't hardly go a day without a beef injection

Often is a shit test. They want to know if you are weak and if you d allow to be her cuck slave. Or you can be a man a fuck the shit out of her without asking

How do you call those women who give you a boner and then nothing?

Women want sex, you're just not one of the guys they want to fuck (right now anyway).
Having been both guys, I can tell you it is 100% ture that women want sex just as much as men, only for different reasons.

Some women have lower sex drives than others. Some with the mid or low tier sex drives may use it to manipulate you. Some with high sex drives may manipulate you and then cheat on you. Some with low sex drives are just honest about rarely being in the mood. Some with high sex drives will be honest and want to fuck you always at any time.
Depends on the woman, just like men aren't all the same (or all abusive).

I think a better question to ask is how do I break away from the mentality that men are wrong or malicious for wanting or even expecting sex as a major condition of any sort of romantic relationship?
I think if you asked most women in private at least they would say that physical love is a necessary requirement to being a in a romantic relationship.Yet I would hazard to guess that at some point every guy with an active romantic life has come across a woman he sleeps with who uses sex as a bargaining chip and shames him for showing sexual interest in her
>user I feel like you only see me as a piece of meat
>if we weren't having sex would we still be hanging out?
As soon as their femininity is challenged or they question their ability to be able to control a man in conventional ways, they trod out one or more variations of those above lines and then try to withhold sex in a pathetic attempt to regain the illusion of control in the relationship which of course never works if you let her know you have options and remain strong in your convictions.
The fact of the matter is that sex is just another basic biological function; like sleeping, eating, pissing or shitting. It's something almost everyone has the capability of doing on their own volition, is right and
as soon as women stop looking at sex like a commodity, as something they exclusively own or as a way to spite or punish men who don't fall in line with what they want then I think you'd find yourself contemplating that question less.

Find yourself a softboy who enjoys pets more than sex.

Remember this always:

Women want to fall in love first then have sex. Men want to have sex, then fall in love.

If you play their game (the slow way) they will be on your dick like white on rice.

>no woman wants to have sex with OP
>he concludes that women don't enjoy sex
lmao

As a guy I dont see sex as being the sole focus in a relationship. It's a big important factor but not the most important thing

God damn. I just want someone I can connect with on a deep level
Why is everything about sex to some people?

How is this possibly true when women these days are getting hit up by a dozen dudes an hour and they have an easier time to get sex from guys or relationships. Women dont give a fuck about love or anything like that
It's a lie society had been sold into believing

You're misunderstanding things.

What do I mean by love?

Take them out, get to know them, involve music, dinner, ambience. Do this for weeks, just breaking the ice. With no interest in sex.

Try it once and you will 100% understand how women work and how to get them seeking your dick like a heat seeking missile.

Man here, I don't get what is wrong about wanting sex, really.
Yeah, I understand that ONLY wanting sex can be bad, but why do you imply liking sex is something inherently bad? Are you a literal prude?

HA sucks for you I have ED! So Sex in a relationship is not happening!

Total fucking bullshit
I dont even know what's real anymore. I have tried to actually get to know some girls before and actually treat them like a human being instead of a fucking cum rag meanwhile many of them only want to be treated that way and I dont really give a shit if a chick is a hoe as long as shes my hoe but without wasting even more time explain to me how women actually work rather than what society or other people claim women's minds work like

>love It's a lie society had been sold into believing
You need some friends, m8.

Try rereading the question. OP is claiming that it is only men who want sex, and that women don't really want sex.

OP is not saying that men want sex and nothing else.

A woman needs to be into you in order for her to want to be taken out and wined and dined, and if she's already into you, she'll be wanting sex as well, so your advice is meaningless.

Not true. But if not getting enough sex in a relationship it becomes the focus for many. When you are hungry, it's hard to think about anything but food. Maybe you just need someone with a lower sex drive? Compatibility is a thing. Sex is a base level drive, once it's achieved we move onto higher levels.

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>once it's achieved we move onto higher levels.
That's a very simplistic reading of Maslows pyramid.