My ex gf called me a sociopath, and then went through all of her various reasonings and the left

Then why are you concerned that you fit the bill of a sociopath?

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call it a curiosity

i figured there must be a few lurking around on a mongolian knitting forum

I think morality exists because True Reality exists. Whether or not we can comprehend it in its entirety is a different question all together. However, if you assume True Reality exists (as in, things ARE a certain way as opposed to other ways), morality is simply adhering to the True Reality or not. So in my mind, Morality IS. It’s up to you to be moral or not, and that’s kind of what religions are for the brainless. It explores the True Reality, and uses that as a standard for how one “should” behave. I think you should ask yourself not if you believe in God, but if you believe in a soul. Then, ask yourself what you believe about the content of that soul. Is it eternal? Or finite? Is it made of your experiences, or is it created by an outside source?

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You're replying to one, friend.

If things like losing your gf isn't what you'd consider a consequence then good luck trying to even emulate, much less live a functional life.

don't get me wrong, i only don't care because of how shitty she was being

but i live a more than functional life, i've got a degree, my own business and things are looking great
I mean theoretically there could be some kind of celestial essence, but i have no way of knowing that's true and also seems to be the kind of "revelation" you get from taking too many shrooms

it seems more likely to me we're just animals who have intelligence

So you think you are just a grand animal! Doesn’t make you a sociopath, but definitely frees you from morality. Animals are animals, it’s kill or be killed out there. No room for empathy or reason. If you don’t decide yourself about the Truth, no one will ever do it for you. You are the only one who has to live with your life decisions in terms of how you behave towards others. You’re not a sociopath, you’re just hedonistic and animalistic. Your consciousness centers are below your waist.

i've always like the nietzsche notion that man is between beast and god

i like to think we can go closer to ubermensch status

According to every scripture, that’s essentially what we are. Lesser than the angels greater than the animals. Doesn’t matter which scripture you look at, which canon follow up. That’s the idea. It follows that you can decide to level down, so to speak, or level up. The sociopathic way, as OP is discussing, is generally to stay as low as possible while still not being an animal.

>where do we get morality from?

Genetics. Morality is not a construct. Much of it is wired into our genetics. Stuff we are born knowing because it helps us function in a pack or herd. Like, you know not to play in actual shit because you could get sick and die. Or to not fuck a vagina that smells weird or is covered in warts.

You however are brokan. It is in your best interest to move towards fixing it. If society collapsed and we went back to tribes, the alpha Male would eventually get tired of your shit and have the group club you to death.

And I wanted to add, that I agree with you about the Uber Mench. The point of morality in my mind is to guide us to higher states of being. People get low level about it, saying it’s for control, and brainwashing. But at the end of the day, we make our own choices. Nobody but us.

This is just apologetics for shitty behavior. There are plenty of animals that aren't all kill or be killed.

i am the OP, and i'd argue that the sociopathic way is closer to godhood than animal

gods don't have any regard for lesser beings

>implying i wouldn't be the alpha male through manipulation and ruthlessness

Yeah, higher level animals. Elephants, dolphins… The higher the consciousness, the less likely senseless violence is to occur, or rather, to be the norm. I don’t think accusing someone of being animalistic is an excuse for poor behavior, I genuinely think that is the reason for the behavior. You are saying that they have control over their choices, so they should face the music. I agree. I am just saying, that’s the reason why OP doesn’t care about morality, is because he is more animalistic than others. So, it is less important.

According to whom? Anyone can run around naked in the woods, hunt for their food, and have sex with any female that they rape, but who among us can perform miracles? Who among us can fly, or heal, Anything you consider Godhead capable of doing? Is it the people who choose hedonism that achieve these things of spiritual Mi anything you consider Godhead capable of doing? Is it the people who choose hedonism that achieve these things of spiritual merit? Not typically. There is a reason that every religion uses some sort of meditation and self regulation. It is not because they hate you and want you to feel bad about having human urges. It is because doing those things helps the spirits rise above its natural state, which is close to the animal. This is why I said originally that you should consider what you believe about the soul. Once you decide what you are for yourself, you will know what morality means to you. No one on this board can tell you how to behave right there is a reason that every religion uses some sort of meditation and self regulation. It is not because they hate you and want you to feel bad about having human urges. It is because doing those things helps the spirit rise above its natural state, which is close to the animal. This is why I said originally that you should consider what you believe about the soul. Once you decide what you are for yourself, you will know what morality means to you. No one on this board can tell you how to behave righteously. Is entirely dependent on their opinion of what is good and bad, which stems entirely from their opinion of who they are, and what they are. If you were nothing, good and bad or nothing. But if you have an investment in something or other, or an attachment as the Buddhist Collett is entirely dependent on their opinion of what is good and bad, which stems entirely from their opinion of who they are, and what they are. If you were nothing, good and bad or nothing.

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Sorry about the posting. Don’t know what’s gotten into my machines.

go to a shirnk, dont self diagnose

Why are you asking us? If you don't care then live your best life and move on. If you do care or find it a problem, then go seek professional help to get a proper diagnosis and treatment.

I'm also a diagnosed sociopath and completely indifferent to the issue. It does put a lot of strain on my personal relationships and I have to work twice as hard to learn simple things about people's feelings but it doesn't have to be horrible.

Honestly, if this is how you approach things then you just sound childish. I'm not insulting you, I have my moments too. But there's a difference between doing things for your own benefit and purposely choosing a destructive path when you know better. That's the line between healthy and unhealthy. You can cower behind any excuse you deem appropriate but it doesn't change the implications of your behavior.