Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Is the thought of the atomic bombing of Japan just absolutely fucking insane to anyone else? It seems unreal that the same country who handles literal terrorists with kid gloves today was willing to openly kill 200,000+ innocent civilians in one of the largest atrocities in human history just a few decades ago.

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Forget the terrorists, only 30 years later tons of people (including leaders of allied nations) were accusing Nixon of genocide for bombing military targets in Hanoi with iirc only a thousand or so civilian casualties.

The vast majority of men do not have much of an internal moral compass.
They believe what they are told to believe.
During WWII, they were told to believe that bombing civilian housing en masse was acceptable.

It was a horrible choice that had to be made but the right one was made.

Here was the choice.

A) You have a very long protracted pacific campaign for potentially decades against an enemy who is willing to do anything to win costing millions of lives mainly civilian and you have POWs being treated worse than Jews in camps.

Or B) Drop the bomb and end it there and then at a fraction of the cost of life. The second one was needed to show we have more.

Jews have always massacred bad goyim without a shred of impunity. Get used to the idea.
20+ million Russians
8+ million Germans
3+ million Japanese
2+ million Arabs
1+ million Armenians
200,000+ Cyracuse
etc

It'll soon come to America before you know it. Who knows, it might be Japs if they decide to sell their souls to the Jewish devil.

Before the Nukes we fucking torched the whole fucking island with incendiary bombs. We were killing 100,000 civilians per night, vid related. PS sry Japan.
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Hiroshima and nagasaki were the christian centerpoints in japan, thats why the satanists in power chose to nuke those cities

We let those nips off easy.

Vietnam was a retarded war though, the protesters got that right. Sending white men to die so that we could tell nips what they could or could not do in their own fucking country.

It was war, you giant faggot.

Fuck em. This police action shit has weakened us. There was a time we understood the rules of war. And they are singular. Win. That is all.

The firebombing campaign did almost just as much damage, you giant pussy. War compels men to make hard decisions.

Vietnam was lost politically because of stupid boomers. We were following the Korean model of containment of communism.

They were fire bombed. The concept of nukes existed but was a prototype that couldn't do the damage the photos are showing. It's more scary for America to tell the world we can wipe them out using 1 bomb than to send a barrage of planes to carpet bomb the hell out of them.

Remember this is the same thing as photo shopping holocaust pictures. If you deny holocaust why are you quick to believe the nuking of Japan?

The were nuked because out of the dozens of possible targets those two cities were visible on a partly cloudy day

It’s punishment for pearl harbor, pity they didn’t carpet nuke the country

I like it when people die so nah not really insane. Pretty cool if you ask me!

>this is what Americans actually believe

Fucking subhuman murderous scum

Yes OP it is absolutely inconceivable.
Never Forget

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Also the radiation gave rise to cute anime waifus

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That’s back when we had nuts and the conviction to finish what needed to be finished, user. Now we let women,onions boys, and the mentally disabled participate in the handling of national security, which is why in response to 9/11, we throw a bunch of troops aimlessly into Iraq and afghanistan. Times are different now

Do an internet search of the jewish hell bomb. Jews have been in control of the USA for over 100 years. War is just a jewish business plan.

We really need to purge the sois from this country, Stalin-style

This.

Literally a soulless dick wave by a bunch of subhumans (most likely mostly jews).

They could have set the bombs off in the ocean just to send them a message, no, they had to murder so many innocent random people.

>he still believes 9/11 was Muslim's fault

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These bombings were mass murder. Not justified at all

Hiroshima was a major port city on the delta of the Ota river and had been largely untouched by the US Bombing campaign.
Nagasaki was chosen at the last minute by the bomber crew, because it was visible on an otherwise cloudy day.

This kind of thing makes me wonder sometimes. DO they have knowledge of the different paths the future might take, ie different timelines?

In timeline (a) no bomb dropped, war goes on for longer, many more die
In timeline (b) bomb dropped, many die, but not as many, war over

Necessary Evil

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>believing the victors lies

(((The Greatest Generation))) to ever serve the jews. No wonder they gave birth to the (((boomers))). Truly (((clown world))).

Just put yourself in the shoes of someone who had to fight in the war. Would you rather they put you in the frontline, or that they just drop the bomb and get it over with so that you can go home? Surely a couple of civilian lives aren't worth more than your own, right? It's Japan's own fault for their involvement on this atrocity.

Imagine having to live with the thought of murdering millions. What kind of sick individual who was flying the bomber plane wanted to take up that job?

It would’ve been better than the bloodbath we would have faced without deploying the bomb. Millions of Nips killing themselves for their Emperor would have been an atrocity.

In all fairness we airdropped leaflets before the bombing informing the zipperheads that failure to cease the war would result in their destruction. They chose to fight to the end, we obliged them.

My late grandfather who served in WWII in Europe basically told me these same two options and everyone agreed B was the better choice.

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Well, the job isn't made for the faint of heart.

Not necessarily.
The best alternative probably wasn't to invade them immediately, but to threaten them with Soviet invasion.
They knew Stalin didn't give a flying shit about losses and would sacrifice however many it took to do the job.
And they knew the Russians were essentially glorified hordes with no ethics or sense of responsibility to occupied peoples.
Given enough time to contemplate the Soviet troops massing at their borders, they would been a lot less stubborn about surrendering to the US.

Of course it's a little more complicated than that, given that the atomic bomb served the dual purpose of telling the Russians that we didn't actually intend to let them invade Japan, but that message could probably have been delivered in other ways as well.

Anyway, hindsight is 20/20. Truman & co vastly overestimated how easy it would be for the Russians to copy the bomb, which is why they were so eager to show it off.

The real red pill is knowing that the reason they did this was to hide unfavorable history. There's also a reason Mao killed tens of millions.

This. Always keep an open mind even when you think you're being the normie "contrarian" by eating some pill.

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the most fucked up part about the story to me is that Japan actually held out after the first one, and America continued by dropping more. imagine the fucking briefings they will have received from people on the ground trying to explain to the government what happened about how much devastation there was, and even in the face of having one of their cities erased, Japan still nervously refused to buckle or give in and stayed resilient prepared to fight back and then America loaded up another one, and was perfectly willing to drop three, four, even eight until they finally broke

>believing mao killed tens of millions of chinks because of some intelligent plan, not because of pure, unadulterated communist incompetence

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Imagine thinking that many people can die by accident.

The problem is psychosocial. Two or three generations back men had about twice as much testosterone, the quintessential male hormone, as they do now. This isn't some x tier bullshit, but documented reality, Google it.

Testosterone makes you aggressive and confident. It lets you take your beliefs and put them into action. Imagine society with twice as much testosterone. That's how you get nuclear war.

nothing wrong unironically

So what's the argument for not using it in subsequent wars? Wouldn't lives have been saved if they just nuked Vietnam or Afganistan on day 1 instead of dragging it out?

Why is Jewish bloodlust for gentiles suddenly "insane" to comprehend?

japs were stupid enough to attack us. what were they thinking? did japs get basic economics class back then?

*us = USA

>he actually believes that crap
weather manipulation is just a meme too right

Have you seen the plans for the invasion of Japan? MacArthur planned to use gas attacks and up to *15* Atomic bombs to "soften up the defenses".

They just happened to blow up all of our shit ships, allowing Congress to pass a complete rebuild (minus the few aircraft carriers that were knowingly put to sea) of an aging and impotent fleet in an isolationist country that just got out of a depression...

Yeahhh

meanwhile, the jews started ww2 which killed 80 million. and yet they bitch about 'muh 6 million'

Holyfuck that pic wtf is wrong with that man

Based and redpilled.

>POWs being treated worse than Jews in camps.
you mean they didn't have a swimming pool?

The only problem I have is FDR literally did nothing to fortify the Philippines and we got BTFO'd hard. But FDR was engaging in provocative actions towards Japan.

In the 70 years since, this ended up working out very well for Japan (economically anyway). It could have very easily ended up being split in half with the USSR and USA. Another North / South clusterfuck with an untold number of lives lost and people suffering.

Why is it always Americans who know fuck all about real history?

Japan and Germany both got smashed for daring to stand up to Jewish power. Dresden, Hiroshima amd Nagasaki were burnt offerings to Jehovah.

Pic related. They like to remind you who it was.

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DIE commie scum.

>Is the thought of the atomic bombing of Japan just absolutely fucking awesome to anyone else?
ftfy
We used to know how to fight a war.

>nigger from africa
>genocides tutsi tribe among others for literally no reason
>americans, who built the internet you are posting on, with devices we invented, are subhuman

ok there monkey

Jesus Christ.

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imagine not having the balls to do it and showing the world we are cucked. No we had to show the world that there is a new power on this planet that dwarfs the power of every other army that ever existed.

>all the cancerous replies by amerilards ITT

DEATH TO JEWAMERICA

USA is next to be smashed btw. Jehovah has been fasting. And Jews have been preparing to switch hosts to China. Sooner the better

Every time in every form

Imperial japs were completely psychotic, design, highly likely to kill you. Plus the mutts are just having common sense, muslims fuck shit wherever they go for centuries with no sign of stoping

>lives in country that has been 125% cucked
>a-a-america is next!

You got it ahmed

When the time comes that all nations finally unite against Jews, they will have already turned Chinese.

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I don't deny that the UK is Jewed. I'm just warning you that you're next to be dismantled and smashed just like Russia, Germany etc.

They only had 2, was a bluff. Luckily they gave up after 2.

>was willing to openly kill 200,000+ innocent civilians in one of the largest atrocities in human history just a few decades ago.

When faced with far higher casualties from an invasion of the Japanese mainland, which most thought would be necessary to end the war in a timely manner, 200k isn't so bad. Look at the battle of Okinawa for just a taste of what US forces could expect on the mainland. At the time and based on the info they had, it was probably the most humane option.

Worth remembering too is that more civilians were killed during conventional napalm bombing campaigns against Tokyo and other cities leading up to the end of the war.

Still doesn't stop nips from being butthurt about it, though. Maybe they shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor and laid down their arms after Germany was defeated.

Americans had strong, plentiful balls once.

do some research on WW2.
the entire reason you judge this event with your modern sensibilities is because the war was filled with so many atrocities that the entire planet came together in agreement to ensure this type of shit never happened again.
the holocaust happened, but it wasn't really a big deal given the context of the war.
it was pure hell, for everyone everywhere.
the countries that had it the EASIEST were turned into authoritarian states.
those who had it the worst were almost exterminated.
there were dozens of atrocities committed by all sides during that war.
seriously, watch some documentaries on the war and it will all make more sense

This could have prevented so many fucking weebs from ever being created. Fuck sake.

Dumb jewamerican

You must be 18 years old to post here, mutt.

FDR was a fucking warmonger.
he had close ties to both the american arms industry, and the rothschild bankers of britain.

t. Chang.

not an argument kike

Argument against what?!

>there were no good or bad!
>the holocaust happened!
>watch a documentary!

You're either a Jew or a dumb cunt Amerimutt.
If you're referring to Dresden as the holocaust I'll let you off with that one.

stop bragging about the US lol you didn't invent/built shit. You're using and posting on the internet with a device that you did not invent just like this guy you fucking dumbass

It doesn't take balls to bomb civilians from a plane.

If the US had lost the war we would have been prosecuted as war criminals. Without a shadow of a doubt.

I've been watching videos about what you may call unfavorable history. The red/blonde haired (blue eyed) mummies found over all the world. The swastikas everywhere.

It's messed up, indeed. Americans seem outright insane, if not hyper sensitive. Some country bombs a harbor of yours, and you fire bomb countless cities in their country then fucking nuke them twice. A hijacker crashes a plane into some towers, and you start bombing the middle east and sending troops. But Japan gets nuked twice and has to just deal with it. Rape of Berlin, Dresden, ect. They always talk about Axis war crimes, but the allied war crimes seem infinitely more horrific. The Americans wanted total war, but could they have handled it? Could they watch all the west coast cities get firebombed into oblivion and still keep a fighting spirit? What if LA got nuked? Could the American mental state handle being occupied, and surrendering? Honestly, I don't think so.

My god...

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The US was used to being criminally insane. The rape of the Indians, the Northern War of Agression etc

It ended WW2. What was the alternative? 10x as many die in an invasion of Japan? 4 more years of war?

Criminally insane, yes. That's a good way of putting it. Crusading against commies, while giving supplies and support to USSR/Mugabe/Mandela. Forcing young men to go die in asian jungles to fight said "commies". Then once the war is done accept refugees from the country you invaded to replace the men you sent to die. Degrading even further into a multicultural police state hellish future. They say we're all about Freedom as we helped plunge the world into never ending enslavement. What's with the awful projection, double speak, and gas lighting? It's like how the burnt offering was the Nips/Germans. God only knows how much history has been destroyed by the US intentionally. Artifacts, mummies, ect. Kalergi consumer race, here we go! World's strongest military being the bitch of the ZOG mafia.

Not cutting off their oil supply to provoke war. Leave them alone, let them invade China.

Yeah let's just allow Japan to be openly imperialist and claim their emperor is divine forever. Good call user

Yeh that's ZOG's job right?
Kek

Did not need to bomb a city to demonstrate the power of the bomb.

No, you low IQ faggot. He’s implying (((other forces))) were at play.

It had been estimated that it would have cost the Americans in excess of 1 million casualties to invade and subjugate the Japanese mainland.

You never hear Japanese about these so called monsterbombs, I wonder why.....

We've lost the will to survive.

Unit 731, the real tragedy no one talks about
>inb4 chinklet

A legitimate part of pre-Jew controlled America was manifest destiny. Meaning the removal of natives from our new territories, the deportation of Mexicans from Texas, and moving until we had sea to shining sea.
Call me a Jew, but my ancestors, American settlers, developed this land, so territorial expansion by America will be okay with most white Americans, forever.

This shit we do in the ME for shlomo is a different, tragic story.
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We only had two, and threats to drop more than that were just a bluff. Why would we waste one on an unpopulated area, especially on a country who was so fanatical and committed to the war effort that they DIDN'T SURRENDER AFTER THE FIRST ONE WAS DEPLOYED.

Your way of doing things very possibly would have resulted in millions of additional casualties from an Allied invasion of Japan.

Cry all you want, but the reality is the bombings put a quick end to the war in the Pacific and actually saved lives in the long run. These are people who committed suicide in Okinawa instead of letting themselves be captured by Allied forces. An invasion of the mainland would have been a bloodbath, both for the military forces on both sides as well as civilians.

We killed many more in conventional city bombing campaigns. Tokyo fires.
We were leveling cities overnight.
The nips were not human. Complete savages.
Even if we pretend the holocaust was real and accurate the nips did things a million times worse.
The nazis gave the jews uniforms, sanitation, food, water. They followed the rules of war, took care of POWs.
The japs were buck toothed pacific niggers. The torture they subjected POWS to is evidence enough.
Whites can fight honorable wars. Black browns and yellows fight like wild beasts. They have no honor and will use rules against you.

There are no such things as nuclear bombs. These places were simply firebombed.

Chernobyl is still uninhabitable. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were rebuilt with quickness

Psychosocial?
I DID MY TIME!!!!