Pro-Europe general

We already won, boys, even the new far-right group Salvini the cuck just created accepts the EU. They openly say they don't want to end the EU, just reform it, aka they accept the legitimacy of the EU and will only make it stronger by participating in our elections. It's fucking over. The anti-european cuckolds just lost and they didn't even notice it

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The EU is like the Honkler, it was enforced on us. And just like the Honkler we will make the EU rightfully ours. One day a blue & white swastika will fly from the gates of Brussels and the world will be balanced again. Heil Merkel for presenting us with this opportunity

Daily reminder that the EU is not legitimate until it seizes Constantinople. Accept it e*robois.

Delusional

This is true. Euros don't seem to understand it, but this whole International alliance of nationalists is just integrating them into the European project and legitimizing it further.
They should just boycott it like Sinn Fein does in Westminster

They want to reform it? Into the Third Reich probably. Scummy nonwhites

To be honest I wouldn't care if the EU turns full 4th Reich, complete with camps for muslims, Jow Forumstards and other undesirables.

As long as it remains capable of defending itself and imposing its interests on the global stage, I'm down to clown.

EU = EUDSSR.

All EUpoliticians need to be ********

>remains
It isn't capable yet. That's why we need an European army

>delusional
Soon

Based. Britfags must be made an example of, so no one will ever think of leaving the union again.

Coalition of national militias when?
It would be the ultimate irony if the Union garbage was destroyed through genuine co-operation between European nations.
>inb4 American Civil War but in Europe
Someone design the European Confederate flag

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fuck you bitch

>Someone design the European Confederate flag

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Would love a far right EU

It is.
It still exists in spite of Chinese, Russian and American interest.
The market is protected, the rights are enforced, the money flows.
The whole Brexit thing made the EUrocrats seem like patient fatherly figures dealing with an unreasonable child throwing a tantrum.

An EU army, remaining part of NATO, would be great though.

gib guns

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>blue & white swastika
So you want EU with just Germany and Germanic countries?

R A R E

Fuck off retatd of an OP, they want an Europe of sovereign nations: basically Europe pre-maastrict agreement. An Europe who has commercial agreements but everyone has their currency and their fiscal and monetary policies.

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>accepts the EU
Who doesn't? Even the euroskeptics do.

Based

this is probably our best change of saving europe because otherwise we still would have to fight cucked countries and ruin europe

if we do it by EU we have direct control over europe and also cucked the left again

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>implying europe isnt a us construction to contain russia
>backed by obama and every us president
>promotes canadian products through tafta and other free trade agreements
>is just an extension of nato (as specified in the tfeu)

I'm not letting you weed-smoking tulip-growing swamp Germans run my land

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Altiero Spinelli is a faggot and his plan wont work you dirty commies.

that's the great thing about the EU...
you don't have a choice bigot

UKIP are reliable MEPs: they simply vote against everything

>don't want to end the EU, just reform it
famous last words. he needs to change his thinking

>pro enslaving yourself general
I don't get it. There's being a submissive bitch and then there's this.

world balanced
>us meddeling in the brexit in favour of the eu
>the eu intervening in the middle east when obama didnt want to get his had dirty
the eu isnt independant and you cant reform it (unanimity in the council is necessary)
countries have only one choice in order to prosper and keep their independance: get out

>bigot
>says the blatant imperialist

c'mon finnbro get the hell out of the eu before germany fucks you over
you can keep them at bay economically (oil) and militarily
you should definitely use your special geostrategic posuition during the negociations

I hate Eurocucks. When the caliphate will happen dont go to Latin America please

ITT : People implying nations of different cultures can be united under one flag, forgeting that every empire that managed different cultures ultimately failed
>t. romans
>t. mongols
>t. 3rd reich
>t. french, british and spaniards
>t. the japs
>t. USSR
>t. Simon Bolivar

I really, really want to, but the kikes in our government put our civil initiative for a referendum into a bureaucratic limbo where they intentionally left it to be forgotten years ago.
We have no oil, you're mistaking us for Norway. We do have mineral deposits tho, but those are already being exploited by (((trans-national))) corporations because our (((National Coalition))) party Jewed us out for comfy EU jobs and shekels.
We do have our parliamentary election now, and I'm of course voting for an eurosceptic minor party.
We don't have enough political awareness for yellow vests, so all we can really do is bide our time and redpill our countrymen in secret.

If shit hits the fan, most of our people will rise. Right now they're all too comfy though and many are idiotically are looking at Sweden for a role model, sharing the distain for "hooligans" and "extremists". Part of it is because we haven't been as much affected by the migrants as the rest of you have, so they will never know the horror if they never travel to Central Europe.

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> Fuck you, mom and dad. I'm not a submissive bitch, I'll make it on my own.
> What do you mean I'm 12 and I'll get raped in the gutter? No such thing, I'm STRONG AND STABLE.

Jesus christ, this NPC "argument" again.
Cultures were never static. Every current culture is an amalgamation of different previous ones.
> t. italians
> t. french, english and spaniards
>t. russians
>t. chinese

Shut your whore mouth Neo-Imperialist.
By forcing free European peoples to subjugate under one empire, you'll get nothing more than Nationalist uprisings from people who don't want to bend their knee under your Fourth Reich
You're as infantile as stormfag larpers.

Picture related, it's of the last time an Imperialist like you tried to "integrate" us.

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EUROPE A NATION

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i seriously hope with all my life nordurvigi wins over Scandinavia and brings an ecofascist Nordic union

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> Picture related, it's of the last time an Imperialist like you tried to "integrate" us.
That's the flaw in nationalist rhetoric - you always mention only the failed empires, forgetting the nations you're defending are more often than not made up of integrated peoples and tribes.

That's not the last time. As we speak, there are what...millions? of finno-ugrics being more or less integrated in Russia.
And there won't be a last time any time soon. The question is: would you rather get integrated by Europeans, or the Han?

>Italia and France failed more than twice at making an empire
>Spain failed at managing their empire
>Russia lost it's empire to an ideology
>China was a puzzle until communism came in
>and implying that "an amalgamation of older cultures" doesn't constitute a culture in itself

Also it does not dismiss my original point, people have different cultures that are not always compatible between them hence uniting them under one flag is retarded
>t. muzzies
>t. catalonia
>t. india-pakistan
>t. the balkans

FPBP

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Yet they won't end the EU or Parliament

>PoC shill dont even know how limited is the power of EU parliament.

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>Cultures were never static.
except that they were, hence the existence of cultures and various dna groups localized in countries which were built on the foundation of duchies and counties with a common culture.

Not that you heroin addicted lefties would know, being historically and culturally illiterate and all.

>you always mention only the failed empires
>implying any empire was sucessful

>the nations you're defending are more often than not made up of integrated peoples and tribes
>implying tribes without an actual country are relevant

Whatever just get your shit together you uncut faggots, I don't want my sons fighting ww3 trying to save you from all the shit skins you let in.

It still doesn't change the facts. People will only follow leaders they can see themselves in. You can literally rule over foreign tribes only by overpowering, subverting or genociding them.
You cannot make a people give up their heritage without a considerable show of force, no matter how much you shill "unity" propaganda.
But none of what I'm saying matters now because I just noticed your glow.
>No it's ok goy! Let us forcefully integrate you, we'll be benevolent dictators.
How about I forcefully integrate 8g of copper inside your cranium you memeflag kike?

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>Nationalists support the EU commission, parliament and so on
>Deny that they've somehow capitulated already

>capable of defending

It relies on US nuclear umbrella and NATO, EU is completely incapable of defending itself even from a shithole like Russia (economy same size as italy).

Think about that for a moment, Russia, a country with 145 million drunk people, could take the EU and their 500 million homosexuals and other degenerates any time it likes were it not for the USA.

EU != Europe

They weren't. Roman Empire, the disgusting Christianization and also the Renaissance. Nevermind the exchange of ideas among Europes intellectual elite which you most likely never belonged to. Including NS btw.

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My point was italians, french and spaniards are themselves amalgamations of different nations. As is China, regardless of what flavour their government is currently going through. Russia still is an empire with over 100 nations.

>and implying that "an amalgamation of older cultures" doesn't constitute a culture in itself
Thank you. So the fact that europeans currently have slightly different cultures (let's face it, we all wear jeans, drink beer, eat kebab, shitpost on Jow Forums or reddit, have progressive psychos in the cities and conservative psychos in the villages) doesn't mean a common one can't be forged.

> different cultures that are not always compatible between them hence uniting them under one flag is retarded
I agree there are incompatible cultures, Just that it's not the case in Europe.
Muzzies are incompatible because they're religious nuts. There are plenty of secular turks in the balkans, that have been there for countless generations, and they fit in just fine.
Catalonia and the balkans are strictly political power struggles and tribalism. You can't "culturally" tell apart a serb from a croat from a bosniak, or a catalan from a "spaniard" (whichever of the other regional identities). Same for India-Pakistan.

BASED X99

US-ZOGPIRE != Europe

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You are retarded. Nationalists are using EU organization to make allies.

>nordurvigi
>NMR

Well you might as well call the police and tell them to put you on a watchlist already.
Their party manifesto is a incoherent rambling and they lack both charisma and leadership potential.

Problem with EU is that it's not just about EUROPEAN CULTURE. Fuck ''diversity''.
I believe this is one of the important reasons why populists are gaining power.

>duchies
>having anything to do with ''dna groups''
Look at this moron and laugh.

we aren't as completely cucked as you are sven
the police wont show up at my house because i did wrongthink

Hell yeah I really really want a European super nation that can claim our rightful position as leaders of the world.
However a lot of the current EU is full of shit. It needs a reformation. The fucking sand niggers should be deported or face the death penalty. There should be a EU citizenship and the traitors that don’t accept it will face the same destiny as the sand niggers, no doble citizenship accepted (so that we finally can get ride of the fucking Turks). Also the shitty parliamentary system has to change and another big mistake of the eu was to let all thous europoor countries in, only the regions circled in the map should be part of the Union

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Based tundra viking

There is no european nation having a single, unique haplomeme.
What's the common culture of the English, for example?
Celts? Which tribe?
Angles?
Jutes?
Saxons?
Normans? Which part of them, the french or viking side?
You're eating shit, you delusional retard.

Every present day nation is formed from several different cultures, fitting the definition of imperialism peddled by euroskeptics.

History proves your argument false, aristocracies often had cosmopolitan origins.

> Yes, goy! Split over every tiny regional difference, makes perfect sense you'll be stronger that way. Divide and conquer? No, never heard of it.
How about you look in the mirror and integrate some sense in that alt-NPC?

Don't you dare touch my fatherland with your stinking black imperial marker!
We should deport you unioncucks with the niggers and roaches.

Europe without the EU is an illusion. China and the US would penetrate our anus with full force. No, we need this for economic reasons. We can make Europe a right wing project though: build a Fortress Europe, keep and further emphazise national identity anderen most importantly: don't let Brussels dictate national policy. Common foreign policy (including migration) - yes, everything else - fuck no.

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well shit better get that VPN up and running dont i?

>My point was italians, french and spaniards are themselves amalgamations of different nations
>amalgamations of different nations
>nations
You mean irrelevant tribes without any border ?
Also see >slightly different cultures
>let's face it, we all wear jeans, drink beer, eat kebab, shitpost on Jow Forums or reddit
Globalization is not a culture moron. Also go tell anyone in the balkan he have the same culture as a swedish or a spainiard and see how you're received

>Just that it's not the case in Europe
Wew lad
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe

>secular turks
>in the balkan
>after +500 years of domination
>"they fit just fine"
i bet they do

>Catalonia and the balkans are strictly political power struggles and tribalism
Ergo unity is retarded

>You can't "culturally" tell apart a serb from a croat from a bosniak
Yet they couldn't form a country

>or a catalan from a "spaniard"
Except that catalan and spanish languages are very different

>Same for India-Pakistan
Yet they couldn't form a country. Also they have different religions

If you want Europe and you like Europeans it would be a nice thing if you didn't post imagery of a group that murdered most Europeans in history, and caused half of it to fall to communism while the rest had to suck American dick to avoid communism.

Even if you think Nazis were right due to ignorance, they were failures, and you shouldn't celebrate failure.

EU Needs to change rather than dissolve IMO.
MP's ought to be chosen by the people, same as the Council and the Commission considering how much power they can potentially weild.
Also I hope the Orange parties have a plan B should they ever take over the EU, if say: dissolving it would prove to be too destabilizing.
They together with a number of Extra-EU nations helped build the Containment dome around Chernobyl for example.
youtu.be/sX-DCIyDeLo

>Also go tell anyone in the balkan he have the same culture as a swedish or a spainiard and see how you're received
Maybe not as Swedish but we do have some similarity with Spaniards.

I think his point is we are not that remote. Besides, I think we should look up to Swedes (in some ways).

Yeah well even if Jow Forums is US-based i think hiro will sell you out in an instant.

>Every present day nation is formed from several different cultures
Except that in all these countries there's a major culture overpowering all the others, and there's no european culture

>"similarities"
>implying you have the same culture
Nice try Montenigger

>I think we should look up to Swedes
Montenigger wants socialism ?

>Says Kraut
>The one nation who benefits for Jewing member states
I think we can safely discard this opinion

Coalition and confederation I can get behind, but an integrated Neo-Euro mutt supernation is a fucking disgusting idea only for kikes and the literal retards who think that "white people" is an ethnicity.
>But muh America! Muh China!
They'll get theirs soon enough. The only reason why they have such great empires is because the Anglos fucking destroyed American Natives and proceeded to breed themselves into a mostly homogenic supernation of Anglos. Challenging the homogeneity of their nation by taking immigrants faster than they can naturalize is ultimately what will rip it apart in the coming years. China is mostly the same with Han. They had many warlord periods due to their differences, until the Han people bacame most prevalent through blood and conquest.
Russia, despite all their genocides, failed to genocide enough to make their land truly homogeneous. It's fractured, weak and cobbled together.

So integration would mean for me either the extermination of my people or living in a dysfunctional, balkanised mess.
No thank you, Shlomo.
Let's just make it a trade union and keep the independent nations, but as a continental bloc.

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No replying after this one you might as well give up bye eurocuck

Shill e sagato

And what I meant with "getting theirs", is that they're overreaching and it will end badly. Let's not jump into the well just like the neigbor's kid is doing it. Following peer pressure is a horrible idea.
Also check 'em.

Where did I say we have the same culture?

I know that national identity is important and that the current eu is doing nothing to help preserve the true European people, that’s why it needs to be reformed, but destroying the European Union project will just transform Europe into a bunch of irrelevant shithole countries that will most likely fall under Chinese imperialism at the same time it becomes Russias hoe. We need a European army to defend ourselves, we need a como European market and currency to rival with the other world economies, we need a como migration policy that protects our society from outsiders without culture and we need a European parlament that act acording to the needs of true Europeans and not because of fucking political correctness. That’s all what is needed... shit like forcing other states to take in migrants is bull shit and shouldn’t occur, no legislations that hurt the culture of memberstas should be accepted, that’s another important change that should be made in the current eu.
PS: I just noticed that most of the countries that should be part of the Union are Germanic so... I guess it would be something of a 4 Reich.

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I agree with that.

You want the Finnish air force to take control of Brussels?

Basiert

EBIN

Listen you Finnish weirdo, it's not our fucking fault we're the most populous country in the EU. Do you expect us to bend over? Of course we're going to defend our interests.

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EU isn’t a synonym for the loss of cultures.
Fuck I don’t get why some of you can’t understand it.
There is no need to go against any countries culture, it’s the opposite way, the EU should protect traditions of European regions from outside threats. That’s why we need to reform the eu, but if we destroy it then there is no hope for the european identity, be it because Russia will annex us or China gonna make us their bitches or hell maybe the fucking sand niggers will try to invade us. Nah it doesn’t even need to be a scenario where we are the main focus... in a conflict between the US and Russia or the US and China we are gonna become the main battleground, because if we don’t unite then we are going to be as irrelevant as Africa... just a bunch of small countries that are easy to influence.

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fuck off shlomo

nobody's buying your lies anymore

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Yeah, it's a great timing to build a EU Army go for it.

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