Was it Typhus or Cyanide poisoning

Did (((they))) lie about the Holocaust?

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It was both.

And yes there were rumours exaggerations and atrocity propaganda, but the basic narrative is true - over five million died, millions by shooting, millions by gassing with exhaust fumes or cyanide

>millions by gassing

show flag kike

Somehow, through magic, solid Zyklon B becomes a gas when dropped on the floor.

>It was both
How many of them actually died by Typhus? I have had Typhus from visiting a Shitskin country in the past. I don't think it can kill millions

German engineering, lad

most deaths in the camps were due to starvation and infections from malnourished immune systems... due to allied bombing of supply lines

No it is called “physics”.
Zyklon b is th trade name for a calcium sulphate crystal pellet soaked in hydrogen cyanide liquid. The liquid has a very low vapour threshold, so it vaporises very quickly at temperatures down to minus five degrees Celsius
Deniers talk about it needing to boil (at the very low temperature of 26 degrees C, but it does not have to boil to vaporise - like weather on warm day that evaporates without boiling.

This is basic science

Several hundred thousands. It kills about ten percent in fit people given decent basic nursing. If you are I’ll fed, weak and overworked and left ina room to die or recover, it kills about 90-95%

The prisoners mostly died of it because they were so maltreated they were weakened

Pol meme, but not true. Allies never bombed the direct supply lines to the camps (although begged to do so to stop delivery of Jews for killing). Thr villaes next to the camps did not have food shortages.
Short rations, starvation rations, were a deliberate policy.

Here's a hyopthetical.

2.3 Million US citzens in prison given present numbers
37% are POC

Now lets say Russia invades Canada and gets support from South American countries
The US is fighting for survival.
Ruskies are bombing the shit out of every large industrial area.
The US it literally figting for survival
Where on your list of priorities lies "feed inmates in jail"?
Russia defeats America
Would the historians be right in saying the US systematically killed 700,000 blacks and Hispanics?

Na bro, I didn't poison anyone.

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Scurvy. Yarrrrrr

show flag you kike shill

How does it kill people?

Why did the US use it as a de-louser for Mexicans crossing the border in the early 20th century if it could kill people?

zyklon b as a gassing agent has indeed been proven false, watching these kikes scramble to maintain the hoax is almost funny

Allies somehow managed to spare Auschwitz from bombing

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Yes those are the numbers traced by the Red Cross International Tracing service, on request of families, by the mid seventies.

So what? They are not death totals for any camp, or for the Holocaust as a whole.

Funny that the text below talks about things published when it happened, but quotes a text from thirty years later. Also that it talks about manipulating texts, when the graphic is clearly manipulated - why does it say “west Germany” on a document in German? No germanever used that term. Why is it not addressed as Bad Arolsen?

Of course the Red Cross themselves have debunked this document and say it is not a death total for the camps.

Why is treblinka Sobibor, chelmno and Belzec not on the list? Why are the Einsatzgruppen reports of shooting millions not on the list?

They didn’t. They used it as a delousing for clothes, not people.

It is hydrogen cyanide gas. It takes about 3000 parts per million for a few hours to kill lice. It takes about 200-300 parts per million for five minutes to kill human beings. You don’t delousing people with it.

It acts as an oxygen blocker in the blood. You die of asphyxiation.

Yes the camp was never bombed, nor where the railway lines to it. The factories next door where the slaves had to work to make coal into oil and rubber, and other vital war work and munitions manufacturing, they were bombed

Proven by whom?

The IFFR report makes it clear it was used at Birkenau

Why? You will just call me a jew and pretend that is sufficient to dismiss me no matter where I am from. Shit tier argument on your part, as usual for deniers.

so many memeflags hidden now with

>It is hydrogen cyanide gas. It takes about 3000 parts per million for a few hours to kill lice. It takes about 200-300 parts per million for five minutes to kill human beings. You don’t delousing people with it.

Did the Germans know about this? Remember, lead and asbestos were seen as non issue in the past.

Show flag now

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This is that French kike I’m certain

if you had asked me 10 years ago i had said no.
but now i know all their confirmed other lies.

-the kuwait baby lie
-the vietnam war ship attack lie
-the mass destruction weapons lie in iraq
-the concentration camp lie in serbia

i asking myself why should they not have lied before ?

How many of those 5 million were jews?
All? Because I'm willing to believe that millions died. But not millions of jews.
The exaggerations on methods and numbers just leaves me doubting the whole thing.
I'd like to believe that we didn't let a lie like this go unchecked for so long, but there's so much weirdness surrounding it. I have a hard time buying it.

Oh it is. He BTFOs holocaust deniers every thread. All anyone ever posts in argument against his points are shitty inforgraphics.

>t. Moshe Greenblatt

Imagine my shock kek

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Where’s your proof that every one of those people in the camps was a criminal? Something I never get about holocaust denial is that deniers always go on about deaths from typhus or allied bombing, but never explain why all those people were in camps in the first place. The Nazis must’ve been really good people to inter all those civilians in shitty facilities and make them work all day.

Well it warned about it on the manufacturers instructions and the tin it came in.

Of course they knew. Fucking stupid question. They had great experience in handling t and using for fumigation

Not to mention all the bullshit we've seen them conjure up out of thin air during the trump era. Like the entire "muh russia hacking our election" shit or all the blatant bullshit about Assad gassing little syrian babies.

It's one thing to look back and see how things are fabricated, but it's something else to see the manufacturing happen right before your eyes. I still find it hilarious that the entire russia narrative all just goes back to an off-hand joke Trump made back in mid 2016 where he said something along the lines of "lol, if Putin really does have Hilldog's emails, I hope he leaks them!"

That is the Jew count. Over five million, probably 5.5 to 5.7.

Please give us findings on bodies, bone fragments, ashes, any type of remains found for those "millions" shot or burned alive.

We'll wait. You will never find anything because it never happened.

>stupid question

Oh? Questioning the validity of a claim that has no evidence is stupid? You have a nice conspiracy theory here, pal. Do you believe in UFOs too? Loch Ness? Bigfoot?

Off your meds today?

Stalin was a jew ( had a jewish mother) 75-80% of his government was jew.

What happens when you let jews free jews? Exactly they write the history.

ANTI-SEMITE BASTARD, it was 6 million, maybe more.

>Well it warned about it on the manufacturers instructions and the tin it came in.

Bayer manufactures "Roundup Weedkiller" and the label shows all kinds of warning. People get sick from using it but it isn't like there are many safer options out there. Did Bayer plan a secret genocide too?

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What is your answer for methods/numbers being reduced/eliminated to sound more reasonable, but the 6 million figure not being touched?
How about different people highly researched into this area having different opinions on the matter?
I'd buy even 1~2million, but 5.5+ seems like a huge overestimate here.

makes perfect sense that it would take 10x the concentrations and more time to kill tiny microscopic bugs lmfao makes perfect sens that clothing would be deloused separate from the people who worethe clothing, while at the same time just killing the people who wore the aforementioned clothing. im sure it took less effort and cost than just burning the clothes... lmfao

No zyklon b was ever found in any wall except the small delousing chambers.

This, just because the active ingredient is the same doesn't mean they'll have the same effect. Formulation matters greatly. It's like how KCl is used as IV push for lethal injections, but there are also KCl tablets that people take as a dietary supplement for electrolyte imbalances. You're not killing jack fucking shit with zyklon B pellets. The entire purpose of that formulation is that the stuff slowly releases out over time into clothing and bedding to kill little bugs.

And even if it were the same formulation of cyanide used for gas chambers, that shit isn't very efficient for mass murder either. IIRC it takes like ~9 minutes of exposure to the gas to die, and during that time they can thrash around violently. There is literally no reason to choose this as the preferred killing method on a grand scale.

All of this combined with the other bullshit like "gas chmabers disguised as showers that totally aren't just actual showers" means that, in my eyes, the zyklon gas chamber narratives are no less ridiculous than the stories of bears and eagles eating inmates, or of holocaust roller coasters.

>OH NONON NONONNONO PLS DONT USE INFOGRAPHS THAT HAVE SOURCES AND CANT BE DEBUNKED

Why are you so nervous, rabbi?

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You know there is this thing called a “search engine”. Choose one, put the words “Holocaust mass graves” into it, and look at the thousands of hits. Come back and apologise for being a worthless fool who has never done any enquiring into the subject at all.

There are thousands of tons of human remains. All you have to do is look. And stop listening to liars who say there aren’t

Oh, so you don't have any sources or proof, or pretty much anything to present here. Got it.

"Google it" isn't proof, retard. You guys are exhaustingly inept. I bet your jew manager pays you minimum wage to shitpost here, doesn't he. Jews jewin jews, I tell ya.

Sorry the claim was that cyanide kills people. There is plenty of evidence. The question was did the Germans know this, and given the manufacturer was German and it was used by the ton in the camps for delousing, the answer is obviously yes.

You are the one who might be short on meds.

>There are thousands of tons of human remains.
Where?

No. But someone who poured roundup down your throat would be killing you. It would be murder. Just because they also used it on weeds would not mean they had not used it to do you in.

Your point? Do you have one?

Huh, I'd just use carbon dioxide and save the Zyklon B for real vermin.

Cool, so you admit that it was used for delousing. Thanks for admitting you are wrong, poorly educated and "obviously" have proof of nothing.

Got any other tasty tinfoil conspiracies you wanna share with us? This one lacks any evidence. 100 years from now it will be widely accepted to be government propaganda to support the war effort and a hoax.

How does that make you feel, paranoid little bagel?

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I am not sure what you are referring to in your first question.

The five and half million figure is largely from a combination of census data - which shows that sort of fall in numbers, and shows they didn’t go anywhere else, and careful reconstruction of transport orders and other records to show how millions were sent to the camps but didn’t come back. Also the reports from the Einsatzgruppen who shot over a million, and other reports about the numbers given “special treatment”

In all historical questions there will be differences of opinion, but I am not aware of any person who has given a plausible case for the number being much lower than five million.

If you knew anything about the respiration rates of insects then it might make more sense. It is called “biology” which is part of “science”. I recommend these subjects for you to study.

Also, if you knew anything of thr way the camps worked, the Nazis wanted to recoup the clothes, and valuables, of the people they killed. It was easier to do that by telling them they were going for a shower, so they stripped calmly, left their valuables, and walked to their doom with no rebellion.

Then they took all the stuff to a storage yard they called “Canada” and had slaves pick through it to find valuables, money, and reusable items and sort out recycling and rubbish.

The camps made a fortune from this. It paid for the system

>literally know nothing about the actual claims people make about the Holocaust
>literally know nothing about the state of chemistry and other sciences in the 1930s and 40s
>continue to make spurious claims about how lice being more resistant to hydrogen cyanide than humans is something obviously wrong or about how 6 million weren't actually gassed (which is what the mainstream narrative also says)
>everything and everyone that disagrees is Jewish
Literally flat-earth tier in terms of confirmation bias

Cyanide residue was found in all the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz

You are simply wrong.

You can't prove there were actually 6 million Jews in that area of Europe at all.

You haven't given ANY deep consideration to the absurdity of your claim, have you. How were 6 million bodies cremated, leaving zero bone fragments to be found, much less being incinerated at all? And where? There simply are not enough places to have accomplished this feat before being completed. Virtually IMPOSSIBLE.

Your conspiracy theory is laughable. You have mental issues for even believing it could be true.

You are incorrect about what Zyklon B was designed for and how it was used. It was made as an easy and safe way to transport hydrogen cyanide liquid. Drop a small bottle of that and you are in trouble. Have it in pellet for ina tin ad it is easier to handle, to dose, and to transport safely.

It was primarily for fumigating rooms - sprinkle the pellets and walk away quickly. Ina few minutes it is sufficient to kill people, but you leave it a few hours to kill bugs.

The delousing of clothes is much improved if you have hot air blowing through them to make the gas penetrate better, and they had machines to do that, so the pellets were never in contact with the clothes.

You should read up more on how it was used, and what it was. It isn’t a different formulation - it is the same liquid chemical. And it has a high vapour pressure so it evaporates at down to minus five Celsius.

And who cares if they thrash around? Nice thick steel door, or one of doublelayers of oak with felt in the middle to make it gas ticket. Make sure the inspection port is thick glass, with a metal grille over it on the inside to stop them breaking it. No problem.

That one is debunked metabunk.org/debunked-exemption-from-military-service-doc-proves-jews-had-foreknowledge-of-ww2-fake-leaflet.t10493/

Reduction in method/numbers.
I don't think anyone believes in the death coaster, for example. Burning jews in ovens seems to be less acceptable now as a means of killing them.
Auschwitz had its death toll reduced by a couple million.
Was the accepted total number of jewish deaths not affected by this change? Are there other camps which were overestimated as well?
Does it balance out of camps that were underestimated?
I'd love to see a source on this breakdown of deaths that leads up to 5.5 million.

Telling me to look it up for myself does me no good either, I already doubt it.
People need someone with a different opinion to change their mind.
If you're going to tell me to use a search engine you can just go fuck yourself as that's not how you convince people.
You should already have the knowledge and sources to disprove or confirm anything that supports your claim.
Asking me to research into it myself just leads the possibility of search engine bias or other manipulated results by myself or otherwise.
You don't ask a farmer to explain law, you don't ask a lawyer to explain farming.

When an individual is poisoned with cyanide, their body does not decompose. Would be VERY easy to test.

>poured roundup down your throat
I don't think the Third Reich poured cyanide down to kike's throat

My point? In desperate times usually require desperate measures. If there is a desperate parasite/virus/lice epidemic and all I have that is affective enough to kill it is Roundup. I'll ignore the manufacture warning and glady shower in Roundup

Then all the bodies should have been red.

The bodies you see are the bodies from the bombardments from the allies. They are Germans.

>I am not just a lazy bastard, I am actually a willingly ignorant one

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/08/human-remains-inside-mass-graves-at.html

First link found on google. Took two seconds
Proves massive mass graves.

Fuck you

Here
Try looking there are thousands of others

>Inb4 there is a typo, redditfag
If there is a parasite*

Every one knows it was also used for delousing. Everyone knows that it was used for delousing for years before they experimented with it for killing people in Block 11. Did you know that?

Or that they then used the morgue at the Crema 1 for only a few gassings, before moving to - oh come on you know? The farmhouses? Bunker 1 and 2 also known as the little Red Hiuse and the Little White Hiuse? And then they built.... yes, you got it right, the four crematoria and gas chambers at Birkenau.

Well done, Auschwitz history 101.

Instant gas. You just add gas.

You seem awfully upset at being questioned. Sure you aren't mentally ill?

>they built

Who is this they? An army in the middle of a war, with low resources and low manpower?

Sounds more and more like conspiracy fantasy to me.

There was a typhoid epidemic throughout Europe at the end of the war, just like the Spanish Flu reigned during 1918.
Just part and parcel of war, and much cheaper than gas.

Why are you so afraid of using Google? Really, in this day and age being a denier is a choice

Why ask on Jow Forums full of retards and shills when you can learn it yourself

germarrudolf.com/en/germars-views-2/102-the-holocaust-controversy-the-case-for-open-debate/
holocausthandbooks.com/
codoh.com/

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Google is your job, rabbi. You don't come here and tell anyone to do your homework. If you have proof, present it. Don't demand anyone google your absurd claims.

Well, thr Nazis at Wannsee said there were over 11 million in Europe, although some were out of reach. The pre war census data shows about nine million in areas that Germany occupied or had access to - Romania for example had about a third of a million, but they killed 250,000 themselves without German help, still counted as part of the Holocaust. Poland had three and a quarter million, plus more fleeing from Germany, Czechoslovakia and other places, Ford the war. Less than 100,000 after the war. Sothree million disappeared there, and had no way to leave the country, and the Nazis claim to have killed them...

There were at least three million Jews in the eastern states the Germans occupied. All this is well documented

And I don’t claim six million bodies were cremated. No one does. The Einsatzgruppen shootings were mostly just interred. Thousands of mass graves have been found from those mass shootings . Also no major killing centre claims there are zero bone fragments - why do you think anyone says this? The ground at Sobibor, Auschwitz, Treblinka, Chelmno, and Belzec is full of bone fragments and teeth.

It is you that is making up laughable claims and conspiracy theories. The realit is that there is ample physical evidence, census data, documentation and eyewitness accounts.

>hitler you are man now
>you must choose a way kill a room full of people with cyanide:
>do you pick beautiful drop sodium cyanide in sulfuric acid while inside an air tight room method
>or do you pick manufacturing a cans of state of the art slow release delousing agent and using them inside a shower room with wooden doors

The 2nd option is consistent with them losing the war and there being so many Jews now. Too bad it's inconsistent with killing 6 gorillion of the fuckers with record efficiency.

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The use of zyclon-B is PROOF there was no holocaust. It's a pesticide. Trying to save jews from typhus due to lice was the reason it was used.

There are easily 100 easier and more effective ways to kill large groups of people than Zyclon B and gas chambers.

For example, letting them die of typhus.

>You don't come here and tell anyone to do your homework.
>Asks other people to prove what is common knowledge to everybody else

>the nazis said

Proof? Oh, you don't have any. Like everything else you've posted, it's all your insane opinion. Go get help, you are crazy.

The Einsatzgruppen mainly killed Communist partisans, problem was: most communist were Jewish.

So of course the Jews are gonna pull the victim-card.

>The use of zyclon-B is PROOF there was no holocaust. It's a pesticide.
So? Raid is an insecticide. That doesn't mean I can gas jews with it and not get charged with assault

You really didn't think much before making this post. Have you?

I'm a Holocaust-Revisionist myself and what you're claiming is just retarded.
Zyklon-B even though not intended to kill people, could certainly be used for that purpose.

Your opinion =/= common knowledge. You are simply miseducated.

I don’t think anyone ever believed in the death coaster. It is obviously an exaggeration of the reality - they do use a sort of cart on tracks to load the bodies, you can see it in the photos of several crematoria. The claims about burning Jews en masses are also dismissed by most historians

The death toll at Auschwitz was not reduced. The Soviet propaganda plaque which claimed the Germans had killed millions of Soviet POWs at Auschwitz was replaced by an historically more accurate one that gave the number deduced from the documents and actual evidence by western historians in the 1950s.

And yes the Soviets had huge figures in other camps. If you add them up you get over twenty million total. Obviously propaganda rubbish.

You want to see a source for the 5.5 million -
nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/worldalmanac.html

Or read Hilberg the destruction of the European Jews, it is about 1250 pages, but he shows how he can document at least 5.1 million deaths

>over five million died
Not even close. You also left out the biggest cause of death, typhus outbreaks and malnourishment. Things we have documented evidence for because that's what was found at camps liberated by the US and Bongs and were observed by neutral international observers after the war.

Source? Cyanide preserves bodies?

Is it fire resistant?

Your entire narrative is fiction, boy.

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It is. When it comes to cursory ww2 facts one can just do a five minute research session with any search engine and inform yourself. The fact that you're unable to do this means that you're simply willfully ignorant. That's it

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You might shower in roundup (please do, and invite a denier friend, just to prove it is safe). But I wouldn’t. And the people gassed didn’t volunteer.

This isn’t a matter of emergency treatment with something of a low risk. It is known to be utterly deadly to the people before it will kill the lice. You are being disingenuous if you pretend that it might have been some sort of delousing for people. It just deceptive but obviously in bad faith.

Who would win in a fist fight?
Otto von Bismarck or Adolf Hitler?

>if I repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth

You're just being dishonest. The fact that you require anyone to look for facts that you aren't prepared to present is proof enough.

What bodies? The people gassed in 1942-44 were buried or burned. There are no bodies to see. The people that died in the camps later, whose bodies are found in the camps on liberation six months after the gassings had stopped, are not gassed

All your efforts are just a form of DARVO to cover for the atrocities Jews committed during the Red Terror.

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Search engine phobia and deliberate ignorance suggest more mental health problems on your side... why do you not want to know that good old uncle Adolf did really manage to kill millions of hated enemy kikes? Why do you not giv3 him credit for a good try, a decent high score, and an inspiration to others?

You hate Jews don’t you? Why not celebrate this?

You're becoming increasingly unhinged, just like those wooden doors on the "gas" chambers.

If I search for "movie review website" some of the top results are bought out by people who profit from their narrative being the accepted one.
Why on earth would I rough a sea of information on my own when there are people who have already done it and returned to tell the tale?
I'm not going to spend countless hours researching into something I don't care that much for. But having an opinion from someone much more enlightened on the subject can not only generate interest, but also prevent misinformed spread of bad sources
You should know by now that "common knowledge" is not all its cracked up to be.
People are stupid as hell user. Question everything.
>Source
>Read this
Thanks user.
Do you think that jews have possibly altered records/history to fit their narrative?
There's a lot of jewish control in media. Do you think the historians have things down pretty accurately, or there's a possibility that things have been altered in a way that we haven't discovered yet?
What's your opinion on the "Jewish shadow government"?