Well, Jow Forums?

It’s really about a standard of living though. Being broke is a whole lot more manageable when you’re not surrounded by brown hordes of people that don’t even speak your language.

>You aren't poor because another person came to your country. You're poor because rich people exploit your labor.
They are only able to exploit my labor because of all the poor people that we've let into our country.

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I’m not poor. Whites only

then how am i am able to buy real goods with money?

>You aren’t poor

ftfy

>that time Jacob de Rothschild smashed a bottle of hennessey on my head and stole my bike

It's easier to exploit poor people labor because their are too many people competing for the lowest paid, low skill jobs.
If there were millions of journalist immigrants, there would be homeless journalists on the streets starving.

What about the rich who import poor foreigners to exploit them with low wages? Because that is exactly what mass migration is about, exploiting poor foreigners because they are willing to work for less.

No, I'm pretty sure it's because a deluge of unskilled labor's driving down wages.

I'm not poor period, which is why I don't want to live surrounded by third worlders. Can't even got to my local mall anymore it looks like downtown fucking Mogadishu.

actually both the immigrant and the rich kike bringing him to my country are at fault, we can compromise and agree on that

Most truely poor people ive know dont want to work. Thats it. They either feel their above it and prefer to scam welfare etc, or they are low IQ substance abusing angry people who just bumble through life. People willing to sacrafice drug use and time and have a good work ethic have decent standard of living. Being rich is rare and it is fleeting.

because everyone partakes in the lie. its only a matter of time until the house of cards comes crumbling down, as it has for every currency in history.

fiat currency has not collapsed yet. people just think money has value. buy goods, don't save all your money.

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so you're saying buy gold

>what is labor markets
>what is poor immigrants exploiting social safety nets
>what is scab labor

OP is a terrible communist

You are right Mr. Trotsky

Now open your eyes and realize the Jews and a narrow cohort of white traitors are the rich people and they are the ones bringing the niggers to our lands

I'm not poor. I'm a lawyer. I make £2000 a week after tax.

Written by an intellectually deficient individual who cannot discern that the two events are not mutually exclusive. There can be and there is more than one cause. Can add a third which is the opening up of trade to formerly and present 3rd world labor forces who will readily work for pennies to the dollar.

So OP, learn to think before posting.

And which party is the party of the rich that wants to keep poor immigrants in our country as illegal citizens so they can never bargain for better pay and raise competition?

And u have time for 4ch?

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In America: You are poor because you are lazy.

Damn, you too? We must do something to stop him.

This is a false argument. Fiat currency has nothing to do with wage trends. Supply and demand as well as increasing substitution of capital (machines) in lieu of labor...and increasing monopolies driven by computer technology that enable mass duplication of business models in lieu of small business ownership.

Supply and demand.
Increasing the number of people increases the labour supply, and also compettion for resources like housing.
The Rich people exploit this economic law to reduce their business wage costs and simultaneously drive up their property investment portfolio...
They're smarter than you, user.

No, other people coming to your country quite literally increases the supply of laborers (deflating wages) and increases the demand for housing and utilities (inflating the cost of living).

Commies are retards.

Rich person: "Hey, do this job. It's really difficult."

You: "Okay, but I'll need a good wage, benefits, and protections on the job."

Rich: "Ooh, sorry, we brought in some guys who will do it for less than minimum wage, get no benefits, and can't complain to the law because they'd be deported."

>they exploit it by importing immigrants to drive down wages
>An american can’t survive on $4/hour
>but an off the books immigrant can

>which party
The party of the establishment. Meaning Democrats and Republicans.

We're not poor, we have jobs. People like you are poor because your life consists of parroting marxists propaganda. What real life skills can you offer society ?

Listen man, you just said the value of currency doesn't have anything to do with wages. Supply and demand is Keynsian bullshit (look at Insulin/pharma in general). Economic policy isn't just American, read a history book and learn about how economies work.

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buy guns and stockpile

Boom

Why the sudden talk of “parties?” Nobody here unironically supports Republicanism out of principle, maybe out of pragmatism. Most Americans would rather have illegals deported than stay as illegals or be given amnesty. Your deliberate choice to ignore this as an option only shows how disingenuous you are.

You can want to minimize economic injustice while also wanting to preserve the cultural and racial makeup of your nation. I would be willing to bet that it would actually be EASIER to deal with economic injustices with a homogeneous population rather than a vastly heterogeneous one which would be easily distracted by their differences.

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Who do you think takes care of those new poor people? Is it the rich people up in their gated communities? The bankers in their closed-off synagogues? No, it is the native poor, the people in the council-hoses and run-down flats, the ghettoes and slums of the working class. It is they who have to take them into their neighborhoods, they who have to take the murders and child-rapes and youth gangs, they who will lose their jobs to a cheaper, more exploitable workforce. Middle-class "socialists" who fight for immigrant replacement of the working class are traitors, working with the financial class to erase decades of working-class rights fought for by the native workers.

It's not capitalists versus immigrants. It's international capitalists and immigrants versus the native worker.

Nope. All of modern leftism comes pre-bundled with ethnic suicide. If you support leftism for labor rights in 2019, you are part of an extremely small minority.

No, I'm poor because the fucking immigrants came and made housing cost 3x more. Fuck off we didn't need 6 spics taking welfare per apartment and house.

Yes. Thats why they lost many people i know. Dems used to be pro labor, or thats what we thought. Now there is no reason left to support them..

My sweet dear child.

Those rich people can afford to pay me less because of market forces influenced by mass immigration of poor people that the government charges me taxes to subsidize. Also I don't want to become a minority in my own country. Helicopter yourself faggot.

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Yes I know it’s the jews

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the rich don't rape our girls and woman in the streets

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My goal while I'm on Jow Forums is pretty much to help people understand that that the party they vote for isn't racist at all. No mass deportations. They definitely want illegal immigrants here so they can exploit them.

All the so called 'racism' from the right is just a big show. The rich may be racist, but primarily they are rich. Open borders is a right wing idea.

>you aren't starving because another starving person snatched food out of your hands, you're starving because rich people didn't feed you both

Dont forget Chinese investment groups buying up property in US, sometimes leaving vacant (nyc) and waiting for it to appreciate.

You have money to sustain yourself because rich people exploit your labor. You're poor because you don't know how to exploit it yourself.

it ain't about money. rich people don't flood our schools with rabbles of aggressive delinquents who don't speak english. they don't shoplift. they don't drive un-inspected vehicles. they don't take their entire extended family to dinner at a fast food restaurant and stand in front of you for 10 minutes ordering for 15 people. they don't spray graffiti all over your local parks. they don't deal drugs to schoolchildren. they don't form street gangs and brutally murder people with machetes and baseball bats. they don't overcrowd buses. they don't demand that all signage around the town have a spanish translation. they don't protest when the city decides to renovate their neighborhoods. they don't get 14 year old girls pregnant. they don't make up the majority of the homeless population. they don't get drunk and pass out on the sidewalk. they don't wear half a bottle of cologne just to make a run to the supermarket, turning themselves into a walking bio-weapon.

Rich people bring in more poor people to drive down tge value of labor

Rich people can more easily exploit poor people if they have a a larger mass of them
A shrinking labour force has more negotiating power and can thus earn decent wages instead of having to compete for mcjobs with an ever increasing labour-force.
Also my dick is bigger than your dick so I'm automatically more correct than you are.

Is this about avoiding personal responsibility?

my nigger

Appreciate by who? Robots?

You’re poor because your labor isn’t worth much and you’re easily replaceable

>Caring about parties
First redpill? So you think everyone is unaware that boomer "conservatives" are just liberals from 10 years ago with more business friendly rhetoric? That the GOP is not also a traitorous organization?

This whole left/right paradigm is just people falling for a tiny, 2d Overton window.

They're pushing the wages down you fucking 0 education cretins.

>Flooding a country with low or no skill immigrants depresses wage growth as jobs go to people who will do the same work for less
>Capitalists have no regard for their nation or their people and will exploit this to drive profitablity

Why can't it be both?

I'm not poor because I have a job and live in an area that has low crime, low cost of living, good schools for my children. BTW there's a large Hispanic population here. Y'all motherfuckers need to move. Seriously, you're like socioeconomic incels. If you don't like other colored people, move away from them. But no, "aaasaahhh jooozz." Pathetic.

Those same rich people are the ones pushing mass immigration so they can reduce wages.

Open Borders is a "Koch Brothers proposal" as Bernie Sanders said. And notice the Koch Brothers aren't backing Donald Trump for re-election. Even he is too pro-worker for them.

>parties dont matter, just imagineer your way to paradise!
>dont vote, just give up and be nihilistic about the parties being the same
>ignore voting records, everything is the same guys!

You’re poor because you’re a lazy piece of shit.
You’re poor because you live in communism where everybody is poor
Pick one

for all debts, public or private

More like they exploit the labor of the person who came to your country instead of paying you more.

don't explain economics to communists, it's more exciting to let them be manchildren and laugh at them in public

Rich people keep telling me that immigration is good, but never poor people...

Those aren't mutually exclusive

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The labor theory of value, and thus, Marxian exploitation, is flatly wrong.

AND THEY EXPLOITED YOUR LABOR BY BRINGING IN CHEAP LABOR FROM OVERSEAS

Bringing more poor people into the country makes it easier for the rich to oppress the poor

You idiotic leftists are being used by capitalists to support mass migration and you don’t even realize it

Poor immigrants dilute the labor force thus diluting wages. Its a direct, uncontrollable effect. As far as my wages and what some rich guy pays me, I am in control of that. I get paid what I am worth.

They exploit our labour, and if they don't want to pay a decent wage for appropriate work, they import millions of poor people to work for peanuts. They're connected, dumbass. Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin

You forgot "because socialists gave my taxes to the poor people"

>You aren't poor due to wage stagnation.
>You're poor because some rich guy is stealing money from you, even though you have a choice to leave and go work for another place but the market value of that job is the same and keeps stagnating due to immigrants.

I’m not poor though

You could be richer if those damn rich people weren't holding you back.

I'm poor because I'm autistic and people always look at me strange. I can't function well in a society.

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t. temporary foreskin-embarrassed millionaire

Poor people coming to the country make me less valuable as a low skilled worker and the pay I'm able to demand goes down. Fuck the foreign poor fag

Both, actually. The reason the poor person was allowed to come to your country is so the rich can exploit both your and his labor more cheaply.

por que no los dos

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if people would realize that limitation and
restriction is what gives things value then
maybe people would grow up. stop wanting
what they want you to want and place those
restrictions they place on things people are
made to want, then money becomes undone.

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>Well, Jow Forums?
Communism is Jewish and therefore inherently anti-White.

Rich people bring poor people here to exploit my labor.

If illegals come to your country your taxes go to their shit. Of course you're poorer with mass immigration, someone's going to have to pay for that shit, and it's definetely going to be us because communists like you agree with this shit.

Why the fuck should I vote for existing dog shit parties? Why shouldn't we start making real pushes for actual proper representation of our interests?

Fuck the welfare state.

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Ultimately, we are of our own making.

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>Get TIG welding job
>Think I'm finally going to be making some decent money
>still not earning enough to move out of my parent's house
>just scraping by and forced to work over-time just to save money
>not worth it, start getting high at work to deal with the stress
>get fired
>now currently a neet
>paid to sit at home all day
Why should I go to work? If I work slave hours, I still don't earn enough money to make it worth it.