This isn't exactly a 'I feel like a woman trapped in a man's body thing'. I'm straight, do what I can to work towards being more masculine with fitness and stuff, desire a gf, etc. but I get that weird feeling at the back of my mind when I see how insta girls posing in skimpy bikinis or hot girls in clubs/bars with short dresses/skirts. I'm turned on by that stuff so there's almost a vague part of me that almost wants that cause I find it attractive. Part of me wants the experience of being some attractive girl showing off the legs and stuff. But then I have to remind myself if that happened by whole biology and psychology gets rewritten so then I may be yearning for the same thing but as a masculine guy. I think part of it is because I have very little experience with women cause I've got no game and I'm such a self loathing person. Even as a guy that's average height, good looking, and has broad shoulders that do get commented on, I still have an intense self loathing as a person or for being short of perfection. I don't know, any insights into this mindset? I only ever started feel this shit like last year.
Weird part of me that wants to be a woman
Isn’t everyone like this?
Are we weird op?
I’m a girl and it sucks, trust me OP it’s not worth it.
weve been conditioned to favor women
1.stop watching porn, masturbate less
2.hang out only with guys, have no female friends
3.quit all social media
4.date women (unironically have sex)
Okay, how? You're attractive girl wearing short skirt, shorts, etc. what in a club and how do you feel and how does it suck?
Yeah yeah OP you're just a faggot that thinks he can just "transition" to easy mode.
Just stop being a faggot and find a girl to enjoy those hot body parts
>transition
No, I don't. Reread the post entirely and not the title. I work towards being as fit, masculine, attractive, etc. of a man I can be, not cross dressing and being some trap. But these thoughts do plague me and some insights would be nice.
Just stop, christ man go to Jow Forums if want to know where those "thoughts" of yours are going to lead you
Don't say I didn't warn you
Bizarre how desperate you seem to want to me to be some trap. Those feelings I have at the back of my mind, along with other things, lead me to exercise my self loathing, i.e. make sure I have things going for me, get as attractive as I can to reach some peak, get more experience with girls, etc. Stop projecting that bullshit onto me. I would like some insights into the psychology behind what I present in the OP, and I reject this bullshit that it has to be some trap thing.
I don't want you to be a trap dipshit. I'm just saying that it's best to ignore the damn thoughts
women have life on easy mode, why wouldn't you want to be one?
>it sucks
how
my reply is probably going to get shit on but you should be less caught up in the whole "masculine vs feminine" thing. i don't think you want to be a woman, but i do think that you have a certain amount of femininity that you're feeling a need to express. every male does, just like every female has a certain amount of masculinity they need to express.
just focus on doing shit that makes you feel good about yourself. who gives a fuck if it's "working towards being more masculine" or not? all this is just a bunch of bullshit people made up anyway
If you feel like the right gender but envy the feminine way of dressing and grooming then you are just a crossdresser no? Just wear the clothes and take cute photos. You don't have to tell anyone, except whoever you end of dating. Plenty of guys do this.
I feel like the right gender athough sometimes I feel more masculine and want to be like a guy, be comfortable, unfeminine, tomboy basically, but I wouldn't change my parts now. I wouldn't mind being born as a guy but I feel like I lived past lives as a guy before.
Just do what you want.
Gender is a contruct anyway.
Society decided what was masculine and feminine a long time ago and it keeps changing. Be you.
I say it's probably a fantasy. Fap to gender bender porn, reality is always more horrifically detailed.
You'll get bored of those thoughts soon enough and then you can just move on.
Girls half naked like in OP image or wearing short skirts and shit in clubs will make me hard, turn me on, and stuff so maybe I assume I'll also be aroused by living that and getting validation by being admired for the body. I don't know. I always assume a girl not wearing much in room of others wearing way more is some interesting mix of feeling vulnerable and aroused.
>gender is a construct
You are absolute poison.
Stop posting.
So, I basically identify as a teenage girl.
I'm a 41-year-old cis-het-male, though.
I mean, maybe saying that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body is a funny way of putting it, but it's literally not a joke.
Why does it happen? I don't know; maybe god just hates us.
But I sure as shit don't identify with the kind of retard-alpha-male bullshit I see, nor do I identify with the subservience that women are so often conscripted into.
I sort of see gender as a kind of fucked up experiment that ends with an infomercial where the narrator screams "THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY!"
Aw you got your feelings hurt and wanna use gradeschool insults to make your point. Cute.
Too bad you couldn't just provide some sort of citation considering you think your feelings are somehow facts. Oops lol.
the fuck are you even on about
I called you poison, I didn't write a fucking thesis as to why I think you're wrong. The mere fact you reacted so sharply to my post containing 6 words in response to your post demonstrates that I am right and you are in fact poison.
Please, keep giving me the "sweetie" treatment, you despicable, unlikable person.
I mean, I am white, and I have blonde hair, but my face is much fatter than that, and bearded, and I don't look like I've just smelled a deeply haunting fart.
7/10.
why does them pointing out that gender is a social construct make them poison then, user?
Isn't it obvious? Propagating these broken modernist ideals that are founded on literal emotions themselves.
It's a poison that seeps itself into every facet of modern thinking that we should simply accept the slowly changing and lowering of social standards, and the thought that gender is simply caused by social factors is another one of these revolutionary falsities that seem to be rapidly spread.
It's obvious to me because I guarantee 99% of the people who spout this gender construct bullshit are unhappy, maladjusted people who are ironically uncomfortable with themselves despite trying so hard to ideologically push that narrative.
It's stupidity. It's hypocrisy.
Lol k
>modernist ideals
Oh, so you totally fucked that up.
Modernism would hold that humanity is separated into distinct categories that are bound by impermeable boundaries.
It's postmodernism that breaks such structuralist notions and rescues humanity from being so predictable.
Of course, this tends to paint postmodernism as a meta-narrative of salvation.
That is not the case.
It's only the degree to which you believe that labels for things are useful that limits you.
Modernism is, after all, the self-aware panopticon that watches us while laughing at the fact that they are not us.
If you meet the Buddha, though, then kill the Buddha.
We are one.
>I use big words that I googled to sound smart when I'm just sexually frustrated and edgy
nice image macro, faggot.
that boosted your argument tenfold, I am now convinced wholly that you are right
Schizochan it's been so long :3
That's a good dig, but probably overly reductive.
I mean same, im straight, have no desire.to be or dress like a woman but my one friend is an ethot and sells her nudes and she makes a shitload doing it. I am jealous. Imagine if we could just get paid to show our dicks. One guy pays her over a hundred a pic and her face doesnt even need to be in it.
>words that I googled
I take that as a compliment considering I wrote that in a matter of a minute
>sexually frustrated and edgy
Missed the mark on that one too, I guess that really is a reflection of your ability to be right about anything else, doesn't it?
Fedoras basically ruined forever at this point, right?
Schizochan please take your meds :3
>Imagine if we could just get paid to show our dicks
Well, you probably have a bunch of gay dudes who would pay to see that.
It's your insistence on using your body to attract those to whom you're attracted that prevents you from capitalizing on it, after all.
>the fact that you responded angrily to my post that was 6 words (all of which were an insult directed specifically at you) shows that you're the stupid one actually
>i didn't even make an actual argument so you trying to rebut the implied argument we both know i made (and i confirmed making ) really just shows how wrong YOU are
>be me
>think gender is not a construct
>suddenly fedora
wtf guys...
btfo never to recover
I didn't imply any argument, you dense fucking retard.
I was just calling you a retard because you're a hypocrite by proving you're an easily triggered, insecure faggot.
meds are your friends :3
how is gender not a construct? especially in the context of gendered objects and activities
I'm ignoring your posts for a reason, I've no clue who are what you're referring to.
quoting someone pointing out that gender is a construct and then calling them poison in direct response to that isn't implying any argument? right.
and how does "proving you're an easily triggered, insecure faggot" make them a hypocrite? nothing about their op implied they weren't any of those things
schizochan you don't have to ask twice
of course I support you in your journey to recovery from this disease :3
>>be me
>>think gender is not a construct
>>suddenly fedora
Oh, well, then yeah. You're totally a fedora if you think that gender is not a construct.
I mean, maybe you're one of those nice fedoras who found themselves trapped in some meatball of a body to tip their at at m'lady with the most genuine of intentions, and would gladly serve their queen in ways that she couldn't really give a shit about.
It's a special hell, but you're still a fucking fedora for thinking that you can decide others' genders in contrast to your own.
That's why it's cringe, m'lady.
The fact you're able to conjure this shit up amuses me to no end
> nothing about their op implied they weren't any of those things
Yes, when you go out of your way to downplay me and attempt to reduce my words to "le feelings that don't mean anything" then you are implying that your opinion means more and thus because you are being a toxic retard you are a hypocrite.
Argument concluded.
How do you even find places like those? Tbh I'd sell body pics if face isn't included for money.
Hey schizo, it's time for your meds :3
And you, stop posing as me.
I was taught to not respond to retarded people because it's unfair to expect them to understand. Just troll with me, and if you must feed it, make sure you hide the meds in there so it doesn't spit them out.
okay i need a minute to unpack this.
so you called someone poison for knowing that gender is a social construct, yet now you're mad and calling them and me hypocrites because they were rude and a big meanie to you in response to that? dude you need to get down from whatever pedestal you're on
first of all, you went out of your way to reply to them. second of all, you were the one trying to downplay them and reduce their opinions to "im just a poisonous easily triggered faggot". third of all, in your own words, you weren't even making an argument so your "opinion that go downplayed" was.. what exactly? that they're poisonous?
I literally don't care, let it go.
Troll them or be done.
Meds time!!!! Schizochan!!!!!!!! :3
not him but you could probably get into it pretty easily through nsfw twitter and making a "premium snapchat"
the hardest part would be getting accustomed to the social expectations of that world
Do guys that do that shit for fags on snapchat make nice bucks? I doubt it's what ethots make, but still.
no offence but im not doing this in defence of you i just legitimately don't understand how someone could be this self absorbed and delusional and want to see how far this takes them
>The fact you're able to conjure this shit up amuses me to no end
I mean, does it count as conjuring when I'm just trying to tell the truth as I see it?
If so... then boy, do I have a conjuring act for you, kekekek
>And you, stop posing as me
Um... wut?
I have no idea who the fuck you are, so I surely wouldn't risk the consequences of attempting to don your identity, because I'm sort of okay with the one I have right now (it's not like super-great, but I'm an optimist).
Are you really that egotistical?
No offense but you are just encouraging them and derailing the thread further. Stop.
i have no idea. i've dabbled in nsfw twitter but not in selling or buying nudes, or with other guys on there. im sure if you marketed to gay twitter you'd make a good amount of money. based off of female online sex workers i know, the best business plan is a tiered monthly subscription for snapchat access ($20/month to be able to see the stuff you post to your story, $35/month to get screenshot rights, etc. go as far as whatever you're cool with). even with 2 or 3 monthy subscribers that would be some pocket change, and you might end up getting some female subscribers or getting to trade premiums with a girl
ah yes, as opposed to the completely on-topic, non-derailing posts you're making. gotcha
but seems like they're done and im losing interest in it so i guess we both get what we want
schizochan :3
that wasn't me baby
If that's what you calling "trying to tell the truth as I see it" then I'm not surprised you're retarded enough to fall for postmodernist ideals regarding gender.
>derailing the thread further
You want to derail the thread?
It starts with freshly packaged tortillas from the same town as that in which you live.
Then, you cook chopped flap-meat with a mixture of freshly diced tomatoes, onions, green bell-pepper, and mushrooms along with the spice-package you snagged from the Stater Bros. that said "Fajitas" on it.
Then, you prepare some Mac-and-Cheese, with the addition of a few packets of Hot Sauce from Jack-In-The-Box.
After that, you mix together some milk and butter and crank up the oven to bake up some instant Scalloped Potatoes.
Then, you go ahead and drag out the big pot for Fettucini Alfredo.
After you have enough of these things, you make the kind of crazy burritos that you've dreamt might exist.
Add sour cream and chunky salsa for the kind of experience that can't be described by words.
I'm sorry, did I distract you?
>postmodernist ideals
Lel; now see, this is why I know that you haven't actually studied Postmodernism.
The phrase "Postmodernist ideals" is a contradiction.
There's no preferred mode of humanity.
It's just what it is, and the idea that ideals could exist as anything but a subjective foray into one's own personal set of preferences is pretty embarrassing.
There is no perfect chair except the one you wish you were sitting in.
>freshly packaged tortillas
>flour. Obviously.