Libertarians BTFO

main problem i have is that you are never free from taxation. you cannot simply buy a house with property and live off the land because property taxes will always get you.

Figure it out yourself, like the capitalists say "you have to do it yourself just like I did" nigger. There's lots of land to claim, the deserts in africa for example.

You are never free from taxes cause you live in society, and government organize it with the help of taxes.

>You're free to leave Earth anytime
Murder is not murder, just leave Earth, that way you won't be killed, if you don't is called suicide because you consented to stay! Genius man le BTFO epic kekistan flag

We've been trying that for centuries and YOU FUCKERS KEEP FINDING US.

How does that have anything to do with my argument? You sound like a retard.

Just leave the Earth

>memeflag

>Mugging isn’t theft
>You agreed to give them your money to save your own life

LITERALLY TO GO WHERE !?!??! WITHOUT GOING TO JAIL

YOU FUCKTARD

That argument is invalid. You can't leave earth but you can leave society and start your own one no one is stopping you.

All land is claimed and owned, so you are not free because there is nowhere to go to. Get it?? If you think I'm wrong show me where to get an allodial title to land.

Is there literally any land that isn't owned by a government left on Earth?

There must be some.

Thanks. He's retarded but at least someone who's not will read the thread and agree with us

the government literally is, if i claim my lot as sovereign land tomorrow what do you think happens next? who do you think will recognize my state?this is literally an episode of family guy tier meme Sargon stop watching fuckin cartoons and playing DND with your furry faggot friend, You sicken me

Leave the Earth bro. Le ePic kEKistAni stile

Some tiny ass islands in the middle of nowhere, where you need to still pay taxes in order to buy the boat, food, and other resources to get there, all of which are taxed.

There isn't you fucking jackass

Go to the fucking moon then, My point is that libertarians dont want to pay taxes but they owe the society they live in which is organized by government via taxes.

>You are free to leave civilization anytime
Empirically incorrect.
>If you don't want to pay back what you owe to society
What exactly do I "owe" to a society that takes and takes from me to give to shitskins, gives nothing back, and then tells me I am triply evil for the privilege of being exploited? That's not rhetorical. What do I owe exactly, yid?

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I sincerely hope you dont believe this.

Ops a fucking retard. If you can't without money leave your civilization to unclaimed land you are essentially enslaved by the land owner and forced to make money. What the fuck happened to this place, this is so stupid I feel like a moron for responding to it. Op needs to get the fuck out of here. Actual retard.

but how can I not pay taxes if it's illegal to not pay taxes checkmate

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Oh look it's that guy that rapes and eats kids

That your hero?lel

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These autists think they are independent from the society they live in not realizing what the point of a government really is, that's why its so laughable, libertarians are the most entitled narcissists.

I sincerely think you need to check your next tax form and see who is collecting the mone inb4 it's "le democratic process.

>independent from the society
Society don't let us be independent, that's the whole point

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Everything you've said has been a joke, I'm no libertarian because they're retards that would destroy society if given control, but you're a pathetic fucking retard.

Taxes are a scam. You can buy a house and "own it", but if you don't pay taxes every year you'll lose it.. Doesn't make sense

>Society is made up of people, government represent the people
Yeah, that's the theory. But guess what happened in reality: The people represent the government because they've been indoctrinated by government schools and propaganda.

>but they owe the society they live in which is organized by government via taxes.
Still haven't answered how/why, kike.

>You're free to leave Earth for moon anytime
Murder is not murder, just go to the Moon, that way you won't be killed, if you don't is called suicide because you consented to stay! Genius man le BTFO epic kekistan flag

It makes perfect sense, why should you be able to own something built by the rest of society, made possible by the rest of society, and not pay back to allow that society to keep functioning?

I read the OP and your shitty responses to that leaf, and now I am leaving your thread.
>memeflags were a mistake.
>saged

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it's a losing proposition to convince people that taxes are theft, when said people are living off the govt.

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It was built from the dude you bought it from. "Society" didn't build my house

>functioning
You should see the roads in my neighborhood. They're filled with potholes. With all the taxes I pay they should be paved in gold

See what happens when you build your property with guns off grid and not pay taxes. You won't respond to this

The its up to you to hold your government responsible instead of crying about it.

>libertarians are the most entitled narcissists.
>currently demanding gibs for merely existing
Why can't you non-whites into logic or consistency?

>the deserts in africa for example.
Yeah and then when i make it productive you and your faggot vampire ilk will show up and tell me that I'm back to society.

>owe the society they live in
At what point have I paid society "back"? I pay more in fucking taxes then you make in a year.

Name one thing wrong in that whole post.

Pay your taxes and be happy that you are even allowed to own a business in this society, dont be greedy.

>Hold the Jews responsible Goys, what is wrong with you ?

Government literally means mind control,dont expect bootlickers to suddenly break their daze after decades of sleepwalking...they love it , they want more and more slavery until everyone is forced to be in a cage 24/7...that is the bootlicker's utopia

You are literally not free to leave civilization anytime.

Society did not build the land. The government decided to lay claim to all the land within its borders, and enormous swaths of that land were already, or came to be in private ownership. There is no solid argument for property taxes. Its a scam to fund the worthless public school system.
I won't hold that taxation as a concept is theft, but a tax needs damn good justification to exist far beyond "I want to pay for X shitty project."
The only tax the federal government should levy is a consumption tax. If the state apparatus can't generate profit on its own through tariffs and competitive trade agreements with other friendly countries then it has no right to any funds whatsoever.

Cocksucking kike, I owe nothing to "society" you retarded imbecile.

Suck my fucking cock parasite.

If you own a business you do kike.

There's contested land in lots of places

Contested is just claimed land by multiple parties, it is by no means "unclaimed".

Virtually every one of those islands is a property or territory of another state and is still technically subject to their laws. There is no real free land anywhere in the world except Antarctica, and that is subject to some multinational treaty.

Just build your own civilisation, bro

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>flagposting

TL;DR
OP is a literal nigger who wants gibs for just existing, and is trying (and failing) to justify it.
/thread

Absolutely the same thing, kys before you post kike.

Any business needs to make use of taxpayers efforts. The infrastructure upon which goods and services arrive, the education both workforce and consumers have and the framework of laws and reliability is all maintained by taxpayers.
Any businesses that seeks to do that on their own would quickly need to establish state structures and some form of mandatory fee.

And you would come up with a better school system? Or a better project? Right..

It's almost like the basic pillar of capitalism -competition- is limited due to natural availability of physical goods.

>implying we haven't already dropped out and are milking the jews for all they are worth before exiting consciousness.

Private schools already exist, you retarded negroid. By every available measure private schools are massively outperforming public schools. Even in terms of dollars spent private schools are more efficient. Public schools are massively overfunded for the level of performance they deliver.

There is no reason for the public school system to exist. Leveraging property taxes to continue to prop up this fundamentally flawed institution is something so outlandishly dumb only a nigger or a Jew would shill it.

Private industry out competes government at literally everything. Why the fuck would I leave a society full of degenerates brainwashed by kikes in charge of anything?

Iirc there's bunch of uncontested land south of Egypt. But it's all shit desert, so good luck.

I don't you faggot. Yet I'm still taxed by your fag state of cocksucking leeches.

It does that within the framework set by governments. Also you ignore that a governments goal is not to make a profit. It's to provide a good living to its people.
What corporation does that in capitalism? None do willingly.

Also...how would a number of corporations achieve an educated workforce in the labour market exactly?

To run a business you need to hire people who are part of society, need land to build your office on, land which is owned by the government, use technology which was created due to government subsidization etc, you are then obligated to pay taxes to contribute back to society which allows you to have these things.

You are assuming that without government intervention things would become worse? Im pretty sure all those tariffs and regulations are not all in the best interest of capitalism. The entire problem with government is that it imposes socialism on a society that is built on the profits of capitalism. Democracy = Crony Capitalism, ANCAP or gtfo.

>all land is claimed and owned
false, just move to North Sentinel Island, civilized people are restricted from touching it

Education is a meme people only need a very general education and TRAINING which would be provided by employers.

There was a point in every country's history where no formal infrastructure existed, and yet businesses operated. Your argument is absurdly fallacious.
The infrastructure in place has already long been paid for, many times over. Businesses don't need to be taxed for making use of something thats already been paid for. This bullshit argument is nothing more than Jewish pilpul used to justify ever expanding federal budgets.

I'm assuming that any structure imposing these conditions on a large number of people has to essentially be a government.

> Private industry out competes government at literally everything.

> muh bill gates and steve jobs

The level of neoliberal brainwashing is amazing, all these people was good at was selling and stealing and co-opting other technologies crated by the state, nigger.

You should sue your employer for the education he provided you.

ANCAP

I guess all the engineers coming out of government funded universities aren't necessary then, lol leafhead...

Retard bait.

Only cucks "willingly" participate in this scam.

>It's to provide a good living to its people.
Sauce?

If you don’t pay your taxes they put you in jail

Now your proving what a retard you truly are, all that steve jobs was good at was selling and stealing technologies already created by the state, you assume that corporations would run society better than government lol, if that were true then why don't they? Oh right cause its just a kike fantasy that's why.

>Steal money to indoctrinate people
>Since you interacted with the people I indoctrinated you owe my y
Wow that's a smart extortion scheme. Much better than mafias offering protection. Hell not even jews could come with something like that and they invented fiat money

Corporations dont run government? Bro are you even in reality ? You sound like the ultimate bluepilled kike reddit tier posts this entire fuckin thread and you have the audacity to bring into question steve fuckin jobs?

And the only ones who can afford private schools are rich people, kys kike lover.

An amendment that was never truly ratified properly.

Simply put? No one works for free. Government employees deserve compensation for the tasks they have been given by society. You wouldnt work for free, why should they? If we didnt enforce tax collection their wpild be huge swaths of our population that would benefit from services, others hard work without paying. Its simple.

Make me nigger.