How to overcome fear of romantic rejection???

How to overcome fear of romantic rejection???

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By getting rejected

>How to overcome fear of being in a plane crash?
>"By getting in a plane crash"

>How to overcome fear of drowning in water?
>"By drowning"

>How to overcome fear of getting robbed in a sketchy neighborhood?
>"By getting robbed"

By getting rejected.

It hurts the first time, but it gets easier and easier. And not fearing rejection is also seen as strength and confidence, so the more experienced you get, the more likely you are to succeed.

Ok fuck you faggot. You asked for advice and so here it is.

You dont get over fears by staying away from shit. You ever heard of exposure therapy? The shit where people who piss their pants at the sight of elevators eventually get to ride them?

Yeah you are a pussy who cant understand this. You dont understand even though you get to learn every part of the interaction theoretically, it's the practical application that will cure phobias. What a faggotnyou are, a coward..

You get over such fears by removing them, step by step. You ask a girl for her name first. Thats step one. You wont get rejected at this.

You ask how she is doing, you wont get rejected at this.

You talk with her like a person, you wont get rejected at this.

And is she is nice you ask for a date. You may get rejected at this. And thats fucking ok.

But you wont do anynof this. Because at your core you are a coward.mif you werenot you wouldn't use a very fine pepe for OP.

Fuck you, you are everything wrong with humanity..

most people always give the same advice which is to expose yourself to the thing giving you anxiety (if you fear dying in a plane crash go fly in a plane a couple times and get into turbulence) but I'll try to be original.

Not giving a fuck doesn't mean you actually don't give a fuck. It means that you care about different things. Find your passion, care deeply for it. eventually people with start to mean less and less until you don't really care anymore because your passion means so much more

Well the key difference is that you often die from those three things, whereas you have much less to fear from romantic rejection.
You can overcome fear of being in a plane crash by flying a lot and landing successfully.
You can overcome fear of drowning by swimming and not drowning.
You can overcome fear of romantic rejection by getting rejected and still being alive and well afterwards.

With that said it's not abnormal to hate rejection
news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/general/072110romanticrejection/
physiology.org/doi/pdf/10.1152/jn.00784.2009
>Forebrain activations associated with motivational relevance, gain/loss, cocaine craving, addiction, and emotion regulation suggest that higher-order systems subject to experience and learning also may mediate the rejection reaction. The results show activation of reward systems, previously identified by monetary stimuli, in a natural, endogenous, negative emotion state. Activation of areas involved in cocaine addiction may help explain the obsessive behaviors associated with rejection in love.

>All that autism

Well part of the problem is i just dont know how to start

I cant just walk up to a girl and ask her out with no context...

btw I remember the case when I swam over the huge deep ass pond and now I feel quite freaky when I remember it

* didn't swam tho, it was just like 10 meters till the bank

>all that autism

Well i am tipsy and whoever replied to me was beinga faggot.my autism is justified sir!

By realising that being rejected has no impact on your worth as a human being, and realising that rejection is a part of everyday life that you'll have to face sooner or later.

>By realising that being rejected has no impact on your worth as a human being,
But its still unbearably awkward and uncomfortable. And potentially you can end up making the girl feel uncomfortable too...

If I’m rejected that means I’m worthless and nobody cares about me, and that’s part of my worth as a human being

Isn’t it normal to do ask a girl out like this?

Well yeah, but you're never going to get through life without ever being uncomfortable, it's a natural part of life. As for the girl, I'm sure she's been uncomfortable before. She'll get over it.

>and nobody cares about me.
If one person rejects you it doesn't mean the whole world does. You're worth nothing to that one person, but you never were, they never knew you in the first place. Equilibrium hasn't been disturbed.

Is it? I wouldnt know, i've never done it before

What if I ask a girl out I already talked to before and she rejects me? The equilibrium is then disturbed

How am I supposed to ask for a date?

Experience it.

Ah, I thought you were talking about asking out strangers.
Knowing them already is a bit trickier but it isn't an unmitigated disaster if you get rejected. I mean, if there's a friendship on the line, then you need to think about it carefully. The main thing is to be respectful of her response and not act like a bitch in front of her. If you've made your intentions clear and she doesn't want to have that sort of relationship then you have two options. Accept your place as a friend or stop talking to her.
Sure the actual rejection might hurt your feelings, that's cool, your allowed to have your feelings hurt. But believe me when I say people won't think less of you for taking the shot, user. People respect the courage to ask, because most people feel that anxiety too. It's not just you.

>But believe me when I say people won't think less of you for taking the shot, user. People respect the courage to ask, because most people feel that anxiety too. It's not just you.

Are you sure? I'm worried that if I ask a girl out and she says no, it will lower my social status... People will start to think of me as pathetic for getting rejected...

Getting rejected isn't pathetic, being too scared to be rejected is pathetic. Sure some assholes could poke fun at you, maybe they will, maybe they won't.
In reality some people are jerks and will use anything against you. But would you rather be the guy that took the shot and got shot down, and got made fun of, or the guy who would have never known, and will be made fun of for another reason. Because like I said, assholes are assholes.

anyone?

>hey, do you want to go out some time and do (insert activity)?
Or a number of variations of this, just remember not to say please when you're asking them out. It sounds needy, or like you're asking for a favour.
Just be assertive. Ask, wait for an answer.

Rather easily.

Hi

Thats so generic though... She might think I'm boring

If you want to be a chef, you start by burning toast.
If you want to have a happy romantic life, you gotta spill some spaghetti out of your pocket.

No I mean talk to me, right now.

You don't have to be interesting when you're greeting a person you know.
Hi is fine. Let yourself be interesting in the conversation that follow the greeting.

You won't die from rejection, you are a huge faggot. Hope you never reproduce

Right. Why? What do you want to talk about?

OP, you think you're going to make this thread over and over again and somehow eventually find a different answer.

you're not. this is the only answer you're gonna find. nobody has come up with a magical solution to this problem. if they had, society and culture would look very different.

I mean OP can talk to me, so I can reject him.

I am OP. Go on, reject me.

What if i'm greeting someone I don't know?

You don't.

Be a bitch and let it fester
Or be a good boy and get over it.

>Hello
I mean there's really little difference between formal and informal greetings these days. Hello and hi are both acceptable and the great thing about greetings are that they're universal. Use them for strangers, use them for friends.

Experience it enough times. I've dealt with several crushing heartbreaks in my lifetime, so the smaller ones really aren't seeming that bad anymore

You have to come at me first. I can't just blanket reject you. Flirt or pick up line. Converse you robit.

Not easy. I've never flirted or asked out a girl before. Also how can you flirt with a Jow Forums post?

Uh. Your text is cute. Wanna go on an e-date?

You are supposed to interact more with people, somemof them girls. You obviously wont be successful with the hook up culture and people who follow it. So you have to get to know someone, build a positive rapport and yet still show romsntic interest. It is a delicate thing but the same as cracking an egg. There is a lot of leeway

Pretend you stumbled upon a nymph. How do you greet a stranger that you are attracted to?

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Nymphs aren't real

When I'm attracted to someone, I almost never speak to them. If I'm speaking to a girl, that usually means I'm not attracted to her. Unless a girl I find attractive starts the convo first, in which case I will find an escape route as soon as possible

>f you werenot you wouldn't use a very fine pepe for OP.
fuck off faggot that is apu apustaja you illiterate orangutang. please cease your virtual existence and go back to school

So, you have to speak to a woman you are attracted to, in order to even get aquainted with the process of getting a gf. And I said pretend, like acknowledge that the situation isn't real and fucking talk anyway.

If I speak to girls that i'm attracted to, i might get rejected though

That's the point, you do it anyway in spite of your fear.

>hey
>get the fuck away from me
>what's your name
>ugh, as if
>I'm user
>who cares loser
>What are you interested in
>not you
>Do you like this topic
>no
>oh, okay

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>he speaks to girls at all
Fuck off Chad.

>all that happens despite its unlikeliness
>you're still just fine
wow amazing.

being constantly dejected and rejected by everyone doesn't make you "just fine"

Okay OP here, this seems too extreme even for me. Would have to be a colossal bitch of a girl to talk to someone like that

Im more scared of just the subtle embarrassment and awkwardness. Like i'd rather be rejected up front than have a girl beat around the bush and just coddle me into a soft rejection, which is what i'm worried will happen

How is it unlikely?

That's why I was gonna rp a soft let down where I call you a faggot on Jow Forums.

That's also the point of just nutting up and talking because the soft rejections are going to way outnumber the hard rejections. It's just how society said it had to be most of the time. Men persue, women keep the gate.

You won't die if she says no, you'll just be sad for a few days before you naturally get over it.

However, not attempting at all leaves a lifelong hole in your soul, even if you find someone else eventually.

dis too

I'm not worried about being sad. I'm worried about being embarrassed and feeling awkward, and about making the girl feel uncomfortable

Like it's ok to emote as a guy, my guy. And the girl probably won't feel embarassed if she's rejecting you, it happens a lot more than you think it does.

But some girls talk about being asked out like it's a really painful experience...

I also know girls, even really nice girls, who have openly admitted to agreeing to go on dates with guys just for the chance of free food...

I don't want these things to happen to me. I either want a straight forward rejection with minimal awkwardness so we can move on, or if she says yes I want her to genuinely want to go on the date

the love of my life killed themselves after one week of breaking up with me (i did not wrong them in any way she broke up with me as she thought she was too mentally unstable for a relationship) how do i get over this and continue with life

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this never happened

>being embarassed and awkward
You'd think you'd be used to it by now. Start by learning to laugh at what a fucking mess you are.

Dude, this is just way too much empathizing with a small percentile of interractions if you don't also exhibit abusive behavior when trying to ask a girl out. If you maintain consent and communication, it's only a numbers game.

imagine yourself rejected and accept it

Not OP, but I have a related question. When is it socially acceptable to talk to girls that I want to ask out on a date, if they are strangers? Someone told me once that museums are good settings, since you can start talking with her about a piece or art or whatever that you are both looking at. However, I can't ever imagine myself talking to a stranger out of the blue, especially if she is predisposed with something (like looking at art). I may just have social anxiety, but I really can't tell if doing something like that would be socially acceptable.

Only ever heard of it on the internet. The people I know who have done it IRL also learned it from there, or a book.

This is where you study body language and pua types of aproaches, but instead of listening to the "just be an asshole and invade people's personal space whenever, feign ignorance" you'll be a high level operative that can find openings to speak to attractive women.

With a fleshlight.

Well, how do I study body language?

How many girls do I have to ask out before someone says yes? 100?

depends who you ask

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Yeah, nah, kill yourself.

Hey, I've seen you give good advice around here and you seem pretty cool

I'd like to know more about you while sharing a cup of coffee

Pick you up in an hour

you'll have to ask them out so many times it is necessary until you stop caring about the answer
will it be 5? 10? 50? 500? 10000? up to you

Literally just say whatever is on your mind. Girls like autism, they just don't like anxiety because if you're anxious it makes them anxious and if they feel anxious around you they assume they have a reason to be anxious around you. But an unanxious autism pretty much just amounts to shitposting irl, and eventually you'll find a girl who likes your brand of shitposting.

girls don't like talkative guys

>Girls like autism
Really ?

They like guys who can break the ice and keep the flow of conversation going and considering my audience I don't see anything wrong with what I've said.

As long as you understand that their interests generally don't include futas and national socialism, yes. Just say whatever comes to your mind, they'll either like your personal brand of bullshit and it'll work or it won't and you don't want to deal with each other anyway.

>They like guys who can break the ice and keep the flow of conversation going
And how do you do this

The "I can't get a girlfriend despite having asked 0 girls out, what am I doing wrong?" user is my favorite shitposter on this board.

It wouldn't change a thing if I asked out 1,000 girls

Yeah like that, but agree on a future time.

how specific of a time

Firstly, you ask for her availability, or allude to it.
"I think we'd have a pleasent conversation over coffee. When are you available?"
or
"Whenever you have any time to yourself, I'd like for you to join me somewhere for coffee."

I'm gonna screencap this little interaction by the diametric opposition of these two positions and thoughts is a really potent part of this board's "culture" lately.

I'm not wrong

Who isn't? I'm not contesting either side I'm just saying, the whole "you need to put in effort" vs "effort is meaningless, I'm cursed to sexual frustration for my entire existence" is a HUGE reason why these threads always have so many replies.

Exactly, because neither side is wrong.
You can go out and gamble your chances and remain hopeful until something pans out. Or you can sit at home wallowing, just because you prefer no effort, hand holding coincidences, which you also ignore because you're undeserving of them as an ungrateful pessimistic shithead.

Fuck you, girls have it ten times easier in literally everything.

I see women and plenty of other men get away with it though. I'm not a complete incel but I can completely understand why these guys feel the way they do. When all the usual guys have women pining for them because all they did was be tall and handsome and any woman can download Tinder to get a free cock buffet, but the world tells you that you actually have to put a shit ton of effort into having what's just practically handed to someone else, it kind of feels unfair. Yes, I'm aware life was never fair, but there's something about not wanting to have to work extra hard to have what other people basically get for free. I will say it's often misguided because many incels probably want women who they find very attraction, which helps feed into the system they despise. But then isn't that the point? They despise what doesn't work in their favor.

No, we have an entirely different and difficult job of our own.
>Be attractive, don't have emotional problems, be ashamed of our bodily functions, don't let anyone close abuse you, we should all love kids 100%, don't learn about sex outside your partner, ect.

All of those things also applies to guys you absolute retard

>don't have emotional problems
The context of incel is a lack of sex. To have sex, women don't have to do anything. No, they don't even have to not be fat. It might affect who they get with, but women can get sex so easily it's not even funny. When multiple fat women show you their hundreds of Tinder matches, you realize how fucking rigged it is.

Yeah, not all sex is good, guys are creepy etc...blah blah blah. We know. I know women who do none of the things you just described, and have sex with multiple guys a week. The only thing they put effort into is going outside and socializing, I guess.

They don't even have to approach anyone, just literally say "yes" or "no".